Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
link to that source? if he turned down more money then obviously that's his choice and there's nothing the nyg can do about that.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
link to that source? if he turned down more money then obviously that's his choice and there's nothing the nyg can do about that.
Love is a great person and a good versatile football player.
However he was not a good free safety which is his main position.
I think this spot will be addressed in the draft.
I have to trust JS if he was in their plans he would have made the deal.
I think they want a guy who covers more ground than Love.
As far as the the slayton vs love debate; slayton is good at the role they need him to do. Love is a great backup for a couple of positions but I don’t think he is ideal starter for Free safety. Do I wish there was money there to keep him, yes, but I’m not the one looking at the books or have the blueprints
Guys are way over romanticizing what love was. He played a lot of snaps. Hes a good dude. Ok great lol. This team wouldnt have made the playoffs without slayton. Wouldve been just fine with pinnock instead of love.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
link to that source? if he turned down more money then obviously that's his choice and there's nothing the nyg can do about that.
that sounds more like speculation "believe giants offered more out of the gate" than reporting.
maybe the giants offered more in november and he turned that down hoping the market was better than it turned out to be, but id be surprised if the nyg had a 14m offer on the table and he chose 12m bc seattle said nice things to him. not impossible but seems unlikely.
Can't believe we let Love walk after giving that contract to Slayton. Will be glad to be proven wrong, but I don't like almost anything the front office has done this offseason.
2 for 12 is not unreasonable and I'm sure we could have resigned him and he would be back if he wanted to be in NY
The fact that Seattle was the first team to show interest and then he just signs leads me to believe he wanted to play there.
I dont think this is on the FO. Its just what Love wanted
He had an apparent major desire for a no State tax state…at least that was the face comment.
I think once the mid season negotiations failed his agent was shopping him; when the S market stalled opening day, he saw 10M wasn’t happening, but that he’d better sign before he was playing for 1.5 M as possibly the last S to sign.
He got his no tax State, a young team even younger if they use all 4 picks in the top 52, and did the Giants a favor as a point of comparison with the remaking FA Ss.
and Love was prior regime, to boot. They could've just identified they wanted a SS with different skillset, rookie scale contract, etc. Snug cap with a big QB contract, and Dex's incoming deal means you can't keep 'em all.
and Love was prior regime, to boot. They could've just identified they wanted a SS with different skillset, rookie scale contract, etc. Snug cap with a big QB contract, and Dex's incoming deal means you can't keep 'em all.
this is a pretty simple case where they could have kept 1 between him and slayton.
week 1 around the same time they were about to cut slayton if he didnt take a paycut they were sowing on love's captain badge. at the bye they were again trying to extend love, not slayton. both players were prior regime so something appears to have short circuited since November.
I'm not entirely sure if all players we signed so far combined is worth Love.
The linebacker BobbyO we added alone is enough for me to lose love if that was the choice I had to make, and it would a very easy choice for me
I like Love, wish him the best. But I’m not worried about playing against him so I’m not going to shed any tears over this, it’s just how it goes sometimes, he is a nice to have and not a must have player.
This also could be as simple as slayton decided to stay and he did not.
Schoen and Daboll are building a team that is FAST and physical. Speed will never be Love's game. They drafted Belton and found Pinnock (both faster and better athletes) as Love's replacement. Mckinney get the big dollars for this position group next year.
and Love was prior regime, to boot. They could've just identified they wanted a SS with different skillset, rookie scale contract, etc. Snug cap with a big QB contract, and Dex's incoming deal means you can't keep 'em all.
this is a pretty simple case where they could have kept 1 between him and slayton.
week 1 around the same time they were about to cut slayton if he didnt take a paycut they were sowing on love's captain badge. at the bye they were again trying to extend love, not slayton. both players were prior regime so something appears to have short circuited since November.
Yep, and Love was ready to leave.
There seems to be a lot of Golden Domer Homerism here
They have also shown interest in safety Brown from Penn State
Not sure I'm sold on Belton, no top end speed or quickness to speak of and missed his share of tackles...for a rookie. Does seem they like Pinnock; maybe Love wasn't getting the vibes he thought he should from Wink
The Giants WRs completely sucked last year, so they re-signed two of them.
The Giants defense was really good last year, so they let a starting safety and team captain go.
It just seems really weird to me.
The defenae was pretty bad last year, and if the WR's sucked, the offense was still better than the defense. To be completely fair, injuries had a major impact on both sides of the ball.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
Love said something about how you choose where you go to college but with the NFL draft, you don't get to choose where you play as a pro, and this was his chance to choose. I don't know why he chose Seattle over the Giants, whether it was money or lifestyle or family, or a promise he'd be used in a way he prefers, but he didn't sound like a guy thinking "I'm so lucky. I landed in the perfect place for me." Not surprised he's leaving. Nice player. Wish him every success. Makes safety/DB more of a priority in free agency and/or draft.
RE: RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
Love said something about how you choose where you go to college but with the NFL draft, you don't get to choose where you play as a pro, and this was his chance to choose. I don't know why he chose Seattle over the Giants, whether it was money or lifestyle or family, or a promise he'd be used in a way he prefers, but he didn't sound like a guy thinking "I'm so lucky. I landed in the perfect place for me." Not surprised he's leaving. Nice player. Wish him every success. Makes safety/DB more of a priority in free agency and/or draft.
Well, if he likes rain,it’s a perfect place for him…:)
RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
We basically keep our underwhelming WRs and let a good player walk at a very reasonable price. Smart tough dependable is Love. Very solid player and at $6mil a year it’s a no brainer. I’m really not liking this off-season so far. Way too many injury gambles.
out of slayton and love, which player would we consider:
smarter,
tougher,
more dependable?
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
I agree, this is strange to me.
I guess Wink was ok losing Love.
I wonder what Giants offer was to him during bye week.
Less than 6mil/yr?
I just can't imagine they didn't want Love back. He seems like everything the Giants want in players.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
link to that source? if he turned down more money then obviously that's his choice and there's nothing the nyg can do about that.
2 for 12 is not unreasonable and I'm sure we could have resigned him and he would be back if he wanted to be in NY
The fact that Seattle was the first team to show interest and then he just signs leads me to believe he wanted to play there.
I dont think this is on the FO. Its just what Love wanted
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
link to that source? if he turned down more money then obviously that's his choice and there's nothing the nyg can do about that.
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1636784908763791392?s=20
However he was not a good free safety which is his main position.
I think this spot will be addressed in the draft.
I have to trust JS if he was in their plans he would have made the deal.
I think they want a guy who covers more ground than Love.
As far as the the slayton vs love debate; slayton is good at the role they need him to do. Love is a great backup for a couple of positions but I don’t think he is ideal starter for Free safety. Do I wish there was money there to keep him, yes, but I’m not the one looking at the books or have the blueprints
Love is the better player
No offense, Sy, but I'd prefer a guy who wore one hat really well.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
well if you believe Pat Leonard, the Giants offered him more money. It is obvious, he did not want to be here.
Free Agency is a 2 way street.
IMO if you don't want to be here. Bye Bye
link to that source? if he turned down more money then obviously that's his choice and there's nothing the nyg can do about that.
https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/1636784908763791392?s=20
that sounds more like speculation "believe giants offered more out of the gate" than reporting.
maybe the giants offered more in november and he turned that down hoping the market was better than it turned out to be, but id be surprised if the nyg had a 14m offer on the table and he chose 12m bc seattle said nice things to him. not impossible but seems unlikely.
I really hope this is sarcasm
2 for 12 is not unreasonable and I'm sure we could have resigned him and he would be back if he wanted to be in NY
The fact that Seattle was the first team to show interest and then he just signs leads me to believe he wanted to play there.
I dont think this is on the FO. Its just what Love wanted
He had an apparent major desire for a no State tax state…at least that was the face comment.
I think once the mid season negotiations failed his agent was shopping him; when the S market stalled opening day, he saw 10M wasn’t happening, but that he’d better sign before he was playing for 1.5 M as possibly the last S to sign.
He got his no tax State, a young team even younger if they use all 4 picks in the top 52, and did the Giants a favor as a point of comparison with the remaking FA Ss.
If it was that important to the Giants, we could have met this price. We chose not to. He loved Wink so I’m not buying this change of scenery thing..
I guess it depends on how much he made….
I enjoyed his energy and play
We like the player, it’s disappointing. That’s about it.
this is a pretty simple case where they could have kept 1 between him and slayton.
week 1 around the same time they were about to cut slayton if he didnt take a paycut they were sowing on love's captain badge. at the bye they were again trying to extend love, not slayton. both players were prior regime so something appears to have short circuited since November.
He never got close to Love's 124 tackles. I guess Reed just stood there in the middle of the field spinning around in circles or something.
The linebacker BobbyO we added alone is enough for me to lose love if that was the choice I had to make, and it would a very easy choice for me
I like Love, wish him the best. But I’m not worried about playing against him so I’m not going to shed any tears over this, it’s just how it goes sometimes, he is a nice to have and not a must have player.
This also could be as simple as slayton decided to stay and he did not.
I wish him all the best.
The Giants WRs completely sucked last year, so they re-signed two of them.
The Giants defense was really good last year, so they let a starting safety and team captain go.
It just seems really weird to me.
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and Love was prior regime, to boot. They could've just identified they wanted a SS with different skillset, rookie scale contract, etc. Snug cap with a big QB contract, and Dex's incoming deal means you can't keep 'em all.
this is a pretty simple case where they could have kept 1 between him and slayton.
week 1 around the same time they were about to cut slayton if he didnt take a paycut they were sowing on love's captain badge. at the bye they were again trying to extend love, not slayton. both players were prior regime so something appears to have short circuited since November.
Yep, and Love was ready to leave.
The Giants WRs completely sucked last year, so they re-signed two of them.
The Giants defense was really good last year, so they let a starting safety and team captain go.
It just seems really weird to me.
Weird? What are the guarantees? It’s all about the guarantees
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Guys are acting like we just lost ed reed.
He never got close to Love's 124 tackles. I guess Reed just stood there in the middle of the field spinning around in circles or something.
Having a safety with that many tackles is an indictment of how lousy the ILBs were, not an indication of how good Love was.
Seriously? Wow.
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than any of our other players we signed. And yeesh OBJ is waiting in the wings.
Seriously? Wow.
sadly yes he’s serious
Not sure I'm sold on Belton, no top end speed or quickness to speak of and missed his share of tackles...for a rookie. Does seem they like Pinnock; maybe Love wasn't getting the vibes he thought he should from Wink
The Giants WRs completely sucked last year, so they re-signed two of them.
The Giants defense was really good last year, so they let a starting safety and team captain go.
It just seems really weird to me.
The defenae was pretty bad last year, and if the WR's sucked, the offense was still better than the defense. To be completely fair, injuries had a major impact on both sides of the ball.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
Love said something about how you choose where you go to college but with the NFL draft, you don't get to choose where you play as a pro, and this was his chance to choose. I don't know why he chose Seattle over the Giants, whether it was money or lifestyle or family, or a promise he'd be used in a way he prefers, but he didn't sound like a guy thinking "I'm so lucky. I landed in the perfect place for me." Not surprised he's leaving. Nice player. Wish him every success. Makes safety/DB more of a priority in free agency and/or draft.
Well, if he likes rain,it’s a perfect place for him…:)
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
Agree 100%