Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
We need to be mindful that Slayton’s deal is essentially a one deal. I would suspect Love’s deal is NOT similarly structured and may include incentives that push the value up further.
RE: RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
We need to be mindful that Slayton’s deal is essentially a one deal. I would suspect Love’s deal is NOT similarly structured and may include incentives that push the value up further.
Exactly..Let’s see how they REALLY compare
RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
the first half of the season. He was key to building the foundation to grab a playoff spot. And he sounds like a terrific team guy. But good for him for getting a nice contract and opportunity.
Fortunately, safety is a very fungible position and Schoen will likely find a replacement solution.
was a fourth round pick who elevated himself to a team captain. He led the team in tackles by a wide margin, both total and solo. Third in the NFL among safeties in tackles.
He deserves a ton more respect for his accomplishments here than some want to acknowledge, even if letting him go may have been the right decision.
I appreciate the player and what he did here.
I also understand you can't keep everyone, and if you have inhouse candidates that you have confidence in, that the Giants seem to have, that are more cost-effective, then as a business sometimes you have to let good players get away.
Doesn't take away from the quality of player and person he was as a NY Giant. Best wishes to Love in Seattle (until he plays the Giants again).
Can't believe we let Love walk after giving that contract to Slayton. Will be glad to be proven wrong, but I don't like almost anything the front office has done this offseason.
Why keep Slayton over Love? Makes little sense. Especially after we signed Campbell.
Unless Love just wanted out which is a real possibility. But Julian Love bled Giants blue as much as anybody on this team the last several years. Can't believe the locker room feels good about losing him. For those proselytizing that "culture matters", this is a real head scratcher.
The "two steps forward one step back" shuffle continues...
RE: RE: RE: hate this - it's literally the exact same contract slayton got too
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
We need to be mindful that Slayton’s deal is essentially a one deal. I would suspect Love’s deal is NOT similarly structured and may include incentives that push the value up further.
Exactly..Let’s see how they REALLY compare
Well I thought Love was going to get 10M/yr, so that's a lot of wiggle room from what he signed for. I think it safe to say no matter what the "details" are I will still believe they should have brought him back over Slayton.
This is bad. Put the Kool-Aid spin on it all you want, but this made the NY Giants less talented while spending more money. And over peanuts. No we are not making him out to be Ed Reed...he signed for 12M/2 why would anyone even bring up Reed, ridiculous. Love was exactly what they say they are looking for...smart, tough, dependable. AND CHEAP!!! Positional value, BS, shopping hungry is what it is, exactly what they said they weren't going to do. Dumb.
Oh Love didn't want to be here, it's not our fault. BS again. Better hope that's not true or they have bigger problems brewing...why would a player not want to play for them??? Red flag.
So, just like the last GM they say one thing and do another. Nothing has changed except this one is a better public speaker.
Drink the Kool-Aid, be positive, that's great, but don't talk to people like they are idiots because they can call it like they see it. I hope it all works out. But this is not a day to celebrate anything. They got less talented today, period.
1. Sloppy tackle attempt on Dallas Goedert in Playoffs.
2. Whiff on 4th down eagles touchdown Throw at home.
3. Whiff on Colts pass at the goal line last year.
4. Whiff on a tackle against the Chiefs in a prime time game 2 years ago that went for a touchdown.
5. I didn't Love Love's Comment referring to Eagles not needing to be coached.
6. Loved Loves Late game Int against The Ravens, But overall, "MEH".
can't believe the Giants wouldn't have paid him what he got from Seattle. It sounds like he didn't want to be in the New York area. My guess is that he wasn't unhappy with the Giants just the area, for whatever reason or reasons.
I doubt he had a burning desire to go to Seattle. He signed with them because they were the first team to show serious interest in him. My guess is he would have signed the same deal with almost any other team.
This wasn't about the Giants. It was about the NYC area. It isn't for everyone.
Not great but very good. Consistent. A team leader and fan favorite. Now who do you keep or let go of Slayton was just ok?? I would have gone with Love. I agree this offseason is not looking very promising. I thought a team is supposed to be bringing in better talent, not losing it?? Giants definitely don’t need to be losing the little talent they have?? A lot of gambles here imo. Smh..
Art Stapleton
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Julian Love will be missed, certainly in the locker room and very likely on the field. Witnessed his development from day he walked in the building.
I'm told Giants made strong push to sign Love before negotiating period began, and when no deal was reached, they moved on.
Art Stapleton
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I expect the Giants to take advantage of the depressed safety market and add someone in free agency to go with in-house options Dane Belton, Jason Pinnock, Terrell Burgess and Trenton Thompson.
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
Dan Duggan
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Projections for Love’s value were all over the map heading into free agency. It’s been a tough market for safeties. Love is a quality player and person who will be missed on the field and in the locker room. Feels like a big opportunity for Jason Pinnock now
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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I expect the Giants to take advantage of the depressed safety market and add someone in free agency to go with in-house options Dane Belton, Jason Pinnock, Terrell Burgess and Trenton Thompson.
a buddy of mine from socal trains some with burgess ( he is a qb coach) off season stuff
team captain, green dot, iron horse, special teams stud, Swiss Army knife, smart, tough, dependable, always in the right place - at least he’s out of the division
I think he'd be easier to replace than Love. How many receivers in the league are as good as Slayton vs. how many safeties in the league as good as Love?
RE: Wish we could have kept him. Much as I root for Slayton to excel,
I think he'd be easier to replace than Love. How many receivers in the league are as good as Slayton vs. how many safeties in the league as good as Love?
Fair point though it could be countered with a speed argument - something Love doesn't really have. Either way it sounded like he had made up his mind to not come back here. Nothing the giants could really do about that except to overpay him.
Pat Leonard
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
Aha Ok - and maybe another attraction is Seattle’s DB “Legion of Boom” aura
Love and Slayton because of the KG dead cap. If KG isn't a dud we let Slayton walk and sign Love. But because that albatross of a contract you could only have three of these four:
- Slayton
- Love
- Waller
- Okereke
I wanted both Love and Slayton back. Shoen was put in a position to pick from that list and decided with 3 of those 4.
I don't think it mattered what Schoen did in negotiations. Good luck to him.
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Not sure Love wanted to move on. I think he really enjoyed his time in NY so maybe he a personal reason to go to the west coast.
Didn’t he spill the beans about replacing the turf? Maybe Mara/Schoen wanted to get rid of him. Loose lips.
Love and Slayton because of the KG dead cap. If KG isn't a dud we let Slayton walk and sign Love. But because that albatross of a contract you could only have three of these four:
- Slayton
- Love
- Waller
- Okereke
I wanted both Love and Slayton back. Shoen was put in a position to pick from that list and decided with 3 of those 4.
Love left for less money, he wanted a fresh start.
The comments that the Giants picked Slayton over Love are just stupid.
and cannot be compared. If we sign someone else next week, then is the decision that other player over Love? Was the decision to pay Jones instead of Love.
Just ridiculous comments. Plus, nobody knows what our own evaluation of the guy was post season or whether they felt he was a good fit.
When they decide to pay another safety while letting go Love, then okay.
On the surface it makes no sense considering he was a plus player to the naked eye. Really good fundamental player and might have been the best tackler on the team. He seems like such a good kid and also fits the STD model. He did give up a few too many big plays but I think that is true of some top players in the league.
I’m guessing that his lack of speed and high end athleticism are the reason they let him go for that money. Maybe they just want to upgrade the physical talent in the secondary… they probably have a plan and time will tell.
To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
You're one of those fanboys who thinks Schoen can do no wrong. It's fine. Keep doing you.
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
I read this as Love and his agent misreading the market, not him preferring to go elsewhere for less money. His market didn't develop as anticipated and the Giants moved on and decided to allocate resources elsewhere. Happens all the time in FA.
Love apparently misread his/Safety positional value on the market
And when the he did not take the offer the giants made before FA period began, they simply moved on. I dont fault the Giants for that frankly as now there are many S options available in his range but likely for less $$. Kind of happening on the RB side of the market as well. We are hearing that Love settled for less than the Giants offered before FA period opened. Look, no one wants to lose a team captain and good player. He was a good Giant by all measures last year. But we have depth already there and can add more inexpensively. Plus we may benefit on the future draft compensation side from his signing by offsetting one of our own FA grabs. Not losing any sleep on this one.
To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
You're one of those fanboys who thinks Schoen can do no wrong. It's fine. Keep doing you.
Read the fucking thread before posting. Don’t try to turn this on me. You’re the one that clearly doesn’t understand the situation. It’s also not my fault that you’re simple. Be better
RE: RE: RE: RE: Absolute whiff by Schoen on this one
To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
You're one of those fanboys who thinks Schoen can do no wrong. It's fine. Keep doing you.
Read the fucking thread before posting. Don’t try to turn this on me. You’re the one that clearly doesn’t understand the situation. It’s also not my fault that you’re simple. Be better
Go fuck yourself clown. "Read the thread". It's simple logic, guy. We lost out on a young good starting safety for a measely 2 years/12 mil and now have a gaping hole to fill. And here's a newsflash. Belton and Pinnock are downgrades. And if you can't see that, you need to be better.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
We need to be mindful that Slayton’s deal is essentially a one deal. I would suspect Love’s deal is NOT similarly structured and may include incentives that push the value up further.
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
We need to be mindful that Slayton’s deal is essentially a one deal. I would suspect Love’s deal is NOT similarly structured and may include incentives that push the value up further.
Exactly..Let’s see how they REALLY compare
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
I agree
If I were to have option of keeping either Slayton or Love, it's easy, Slayton is more important to the team right now.
Fortunately, safety is a very fungible position and Schoen will likely find a replacement solution.
He deserves a ton more respect for his accomplishments here than some want to acknowledge, even if letting him go may have been the right decision.
I appreciate the player and what he did here.
I also understand you can't keep everyone, and if you have inhouse candidates that you have confidence in, that the Giants seem to have, that are more cost-effective, then as a business sometimes you have to let good players get away.
Doesn't take away from the quality of player and person he was as a NY Giant. Best wishes to Love in Seattle (until he plays the Giants again).
Go back to lurking I guess then
Unless Love just wanted out which is a real possibility. But Julian Love bled Giants blue as much as anybody on this team the last several years. Can't believe the locker room feels good about losing him. For those proselytizing that "culture matters", this is a real head scratcher.
The "two steps forward one step back" shuffle continues...
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Former Giants’ safety Julian Love reached agreement today on a two-year, $12 million deal with the Seattle Seahawks, per sources. Deal confirmed and negotiated by Drew Rosenhaus and Ryan Matha.
first thing i have a strong disagreement with the FO on.
love was a team captain and at the trade deadline he was 1 of 2 players they negotiated an extension with. slayton wasn't. this is a very reasonable deal. down the stretch slayton almost cost them the washington game and the wild card with drops. love played almost every snap on d and did so in a bunch of different positions wherever he was needed.
love > slayton.
We need to be mindful that Slayton’s deal is essentially a one deal. I would suspect Love’s deal is NOT similarly structured and may include incentives that push the value up further.
Exactly..Let’s see how they REALLY compare
Well I thought Love was going to get 10M/yr, so that's a lot of wiggle room from what he signed for. I think it safe to say no matter what the "details" are I will still believe they should have brought him back over Slayton.
This is bad. Put the Kool-Aid spin on it all you want, but this made the NY Giants less talented while spending more money. And over peanuts. No we are not making him out to be Ed Reed...he signed for 12M/2 why would anyone even bring up Reed, ridiculous. Love was exactly what they say they are looking for...smart, tough, dependable. AND CHEAP!!! Positional value, BS, shopping hungry is what it is, exactly what they said they weren't going to do. Dumb.
Oh Love didn't want to be here, it's not our fault. BS again. Better hope that's not true or they have bigger problems brewing...why would a player not want to play for them??? Red flag.
So, just like the last GM they say one thing and do another. Nothing has changed except this one is a better public speaker.
Drink the Kool-Aid, be positive, that's great, but don't talk to people like they are idiots because they can call it like they see it. I hope it all works out. But this is not a day to celebrate anything. They got less talented today, period.
2. Whiff on 4th down eagles touchdown Throw at home.
3. Whiff on Colts pass at the goal line last year.
4. Whiff on a tackle against the Chiefs in a prime time game 2 years ago that went for a touchdown.
5. I didn't Love Love's Comment referring to Eagles not needing to be coached.
6. Loved Loves Late game Int against The Ravens, But overall, "MEH".
I doubt he had a burning desire to go to Seattle. He signed with them because they were the first team to show serious interest in him. My guess is he would have signed the same deal with almost any other team.
This wasn't about the Giants. It was about the NYC area. It isn't for everyone.
I liked him but he is a replaceable guy, especially with X contract coming up
belton, pinnock, waiver pick up or rookie will compete
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Julian Love will be missed, certainly in the locker room and very likely on the field. Witnessed his development from day he walked in the building.
I'm told Giants made strong push to sign Love before negotiating period began, and when no deal was reached, they moved on.
@art_stapleton
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I expect the Giants to take advantage of the depressed safety market and add someone in free agency to go with in-house options Dane Belton, Jason Pinnock, Terrell Burgess and Trenton Thompson.
Draft, obviously, also an option.
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
@DDuggan21
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Projections for Love’s value were all over the map heading into free agency. It’s been a tough market for safeties. Love is a quality player and person who will be missed on the field and in the locker room. Feels like a big opportunity for Jason Pinnock now
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
And there you have it
@art_stapleton
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I expect the Giants to take advantage of the depressed safety market and add someone in free agency to go with in-house options Dane Belton, Jason Pinnock, Terrell Burgess and Trenton Thompson.
a buddy of mine from socal trains some with burgess ( he is a qb coach) off season stuff
Draft, obviously, also an option.
(even if I know he is good and I wish he had stayed)
Fair point though it could be countered with a speed argument - something Love doesn't really have. Either way it sounded like he had made up his mind to not come back here. Nothing the giants could really do about that except to overpay him.
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
Aha Ok - and maybe another attraction is Seattle’s DB “Legion of Boom” aura
- Slayton
- Love
- Waller
- Okereke
I wanted both Love and Slayton back. Shoen was put in a position to pick from that list and decided with 3 of those 4.
Totally agree. But, it's more about me being unhappy about overpaying Slayton then not signing Love.
If they really like Pinnock and Belton, then I can understand not wanting to spend this money.
out of slayton and love, which player would we consider:
smarter,
tougher,
more dependable?
Love, and it's not close.
Not sure Love wanted to move on. I think he really enjoyed his time in NY so maybe he a personal reason to go to the west coast.
Didn’t he spill the beans about replacing the turf? Maybe Mara/Schoen wanted to get rid of him. Loose lips.
- Slayton
- Love
- Waller
- Okereke
I wanted both Love and Slayton back. Shoen was put in a position to pick from that list and decided with 3 of those 4.
Love left for less money, he wanted a fresh start.
Just ridiculous comments. Plus, nobody knows what our own evaluation of the guy was post season or whether they felt he was a good fit.
When they decide to pay another safety while letting go Love, then okay.
I’m guessing that his lack of speed and high end athleticism are the reason they let him go for that money. Maybe they just want to upgrade the physical talent in the secondary… they probably have a plan and time will tell.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
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To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
You're one of those fanboys who thinks Schoen can do no wrong. It's fine. Keep doing you.
@PLeonardNYDN
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Believe Giants offered more than this out of the gate. There was a persistent disconnect, though. And Love sought a new opportunity that embraced him.
I read this as Love and his agent misreading the market, not him preferring to go elsewhere for less money. His market didn't develop as anticipated and the Giants moved on and decided to allocate resources elsewhere. Happens all the time in FA.
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To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
You're one of those fanboys who thinks Schoen can do no wrong. It's fine. Keep doing you.
Read the fucking thread before posting. Don’t try to turn this on me. You’re the one that clearly doesn’t understand the situation. It’s also not my fault that you’re simple. Be better
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To lose a player like Love for that little money is a joke. I'm sorry. Total whiff by Schoen on this one. I could see if the deal was worth in the 18 to 20 mil range. Sure, that's too rich. But 2 years/12 mil? Give me a break. That's a great deal for a good starting safety and a team leader in their mid to late 20s. I would've much rather gave Slayton's 12 mil to Love and let Slayton walk. This has been a pretty good off-season but fans acting like this has been a homerun off-season are delusional.
You haven’t even bothered to read this thread before posting, right?
The answers are right there for you to see. It would have saved you from your incredibly misinformed rant
You're one of those fanboys who thinks Schoen can do no wrong. It's fine. Keep doing you.
Read the fucking thread before posting. Don’t try to turn this on me. You’re the one that clearly doesn’t understand the situation. It’s also not my fault that you’re simple. Be better
Go fuck yourself clown. "Read the thread". It's simple logic, guy. We lost out on a young good starting safety for a measely 2 years/12 mil and now have a gaping hole to fill. And here's a newsflash. Belton and Pinnock are downgrades. And if you can't see that, you need to be better.