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What is still need to beat the Eagles? Dallas?

George from PA : 3/17/2023 10:37 pm
I love the Weller trade....a swing for the fences with little risk.

They added speed with the WRs which was needed....should also open room for both Barkley and Jones.

I wouldn't say the Giants have a true #1 WRs. Are they done?

These moves should also offer more big plays.

As long as, the OL holds up.

Neal must improve balance become more reliable.

The interior OL needs to be figured out.

I like the addition of Nacho and love his energy and persona...he and the returning injured plays are fine....but I would love one more stud....even a PT stud like Calais would be ideal.

I believe Beavers can be the LBers next to Okereke. Okereke seems like the perfect piece at MLB.

But right now, safety and corners are actually weaker!

10 draft picks and several ways to lower cap....offer options.

Schoen has done well...but it's not good enough to do just well. They must do better than the Eagles and The Cowboys.


I expected the Eagles to lose a ton of talent in FA...they haven't. Freaking Eagles also have 2 1st RD picks. The best arguement is losing their Coordinators.

I haven't followed the Cowboys as much.....



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RE: CB is a big one because when Adoree went down  
bLiTz 2k : 3/18/2023 11:27 am : link
In comment 16069358 BSIMatt said:
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It really hurt the defense. I think they need more competition there not just for spot opposite Jackson but to have more talent/depth behind Jackson should injuries strike again.


CB and IOL are the two thinnest positions on the team. If they can figure that out i'd feel much better about this team.
RE: Not saying a WR isn't a need, just saying there might not be one at 25  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/18/2023 11:31 am : link
In comment 16069334 George from PA said:
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They Must continue to draft BPA.....

reaching for a WR is not smart.....

Now...the good thing...colleges are producing NFL WRs....and usually plentiful. I just do not see a Chase or Lamb at 25...but maybe find a gem later.

It seems obvious the personal depth and coaches feel WR a need......a stud corner, DL or OL seems more likely at 25


George I hear you. I would contend that in this specific scheme/offense 1 or more of JSN, Addison or Flowers could grade very high and be BPA or near BPA at 25.

I definitely think CB and Edge are even more loaded though and could easily be right up there gradewise at 25 too.
RE: I think Evan Neal taking a big step in year 2 is one  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/18/2023 11:33 am : link
In comment 16069349 BSIMatt said:
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Of the most important things that needs to happen for the Giants. If they solidify the edges I think it will help them immensely in those divisional battles with Dallas and Philly. It’s critical.


This is undoubtedly a HUGE factor for the offense. I widh we had a better backup plan than Tyre Phillips. Somehow a guy who has good OT versatilty but could play OG for us too.
RE: RE: CB is a big one because when Adoree went down  
Klaatu : 3/18/2023 11:34 am : link
In comment 16069386 bLiTz 2k said:
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In comment 16069358 BSIMatt said:


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It really hurt the defense. I think they need more competition there not just for spot opposite Jackson but to have more talent/depth behind Jackson should injuries strike again.



CB and IOL are the two thinnest positions on the team. If they can figure that out i'd feel much better about this team.


I've said for a while it's going to be a CB at #25, and I still feel that way. IOL is a little trickier.
They aren't going to be  
allstarjim : 3/18/2023 1:27 pm : link
better than these teams offensively (IMO), so you need to build a much better defense than they have.

They've made strides in that area, getting Okereke, and other guys have a chance to make gains from last year to this year, like Beavers and Flott. We'll see what happens in the draft. Lukas Van Ness can go a long way here, as could a top corner.
RE: They aren't going to be  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/18/2023 2:54 pm : link
In comment 16069513 allstarjim said:
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better than these teams offensively (IMO), so you need to build a much better defense than they have.

They've made strides in that area, getting Okereke, and other guys have a chance to make gains from last year to this year, like Beavers and Flott. We'll see what happens in the draft. Lukas Van Ness can go a long way here, as could a top corner.


Rock Ya Sin and Marcus Peters are still out there too. Interestingly no WR has been traded for yet either. If D-Hop gets cut he possibly becomes an option I would think.
I think the WR moves  
Cenotaph : 3/18/2023 3:04 pm : link
were so they aren't stuck going WR in 1st if the value doesn't line up. We've seen that not work out before. We certainly need to address Center (mainly) or LG and push a guy to C - we may be able to resign a Feliciano type even after the draft if we don't feel confident there (and there's always Bredeson as a fallback).

We also need work in the secondary (starting S and CB depth), and probably another DL to get a good rotation going (we have our key guys in LW and Dex there). I think we're fairly set at LB; we have to see what comes out of the ILB mix and we have some solid OLB candidates.

I think we're mostly set on O outside the OL - we've brought in a bunch of playable WRs (and probably will draft 1); we should be OK at RB/TE (with a draft add mid/late), but the interior OL is probably our key area to add.
For those saying "one or two more off seasons  
Dave on the UWS : 3/18/2023 4:23 pm : link
like this one", Schoen and Daboll aren't thinking like that. They are planning on winning every year. Just listen to their comments.
RE: I think the WR moves  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/18/2023 4:54 pm : link
In comment 16069615 Cenotaph said:
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were so they aren't stuck going WR in 1st if the value doesn't line up. We've seen that not work out before. We certainly need to address Center (mainly) or LG and push a guy to C - we may be able to resign a Feliciano type even after the draft if we don't feel confident there (and there's always Bredeson as a fallback).

We also need work in the secondary (starting S and CB depth), and probably another DL to get a good rotation going (we have our key guys in LW and Dex there). I think we're fairly set at LB; we have to see what comes out of the ILB mix and we have some solid OLB candidates.

I think we're mostly set on O outside the OL - we've brought in a bunch of playable WRs (and probably will draft 1); we should be OK at RB/TE (with a draft add mid/late), but the interior OL is probably our key area to add.


Giants haven't drafted an ILB or IOL in round 1 in probably 30 years plus.

Schoen stresses positional value in the high rounds. Right now the top two rounds smell like WR/CB with Edge a darkhorse due to its positional impact.
RE: For those saying  
Route 9 : 3/18/2023 5:04 pm : link
In comment 16069702 Dave on the UWS said:
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like this one", Schoen and Daboll aren't thinking like that. They are planning on winning every year. Just listen to their comments.


That's good. There were plenty saying "it's gonna take time" at this time last year. Nope. No rebuilds or whatever. They made it as far as the shoo-in Buffalo Bills did last year.
Best Free Agents  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/18/2023 10:44 pm : link
Left over at positions of need for the team.


1. Rock Ya Sin CB
2 Marcus Peters CB
3. Isaac Seumalo G
4. Conner McGovern C
5. Jadeveon Clowney Edge
6. Devin Singletary RB
7. CJGJ S/Nickel
8. Kareem Hunt RB
9. DJ Chark WR
10. Mecole Hardman WR
11. Bud Dupree Edge
12. Leonard Floyd LB
13. Myles Jack MLB
14. Sean Murphy Bunting CB
15. Adrian Amos S
16. Melvin Ingram Edge
17. Rodney McLeod S
18. Calais Campbell DE


Mike Lombardi pointed it out in his last podcast. The spending spree is over when teams start bringing in players for visits.


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