The proposed rule would require the game clock to show tenths of a second for the final 30 seconds of each half (similar to what we see in basketball and hockey).
There would be a backlash on this because I can see this getting ridiculous with how many snaps are so close to expiring. Coaches would be losing their minds and then the argument comes in if it is reviewable or not. I think they are okay with what is happening now even though there is grey area and I hate grey area.
In basketball and hockey, the game ends when the clock reaches zero. In football, once the ball is snapped, the play continues. Knowing the time remaining down to 10ths of a second might have a tiny affect on playcalling in the final moments of a half, but that’s all. So, sure, go ahead. Hardly anything will change, so why not?
Some time ago the NFL (in preseason) tried using a laser scope of some kind to replace the sticks-and-chain. The thinking was that this would improve ball placement, and result in more accurate calls as to whether the offense had or had not achieved a first down.
The drawback of this method is that there is no visual confirmation available to fans or to TV such as there is with the sticks-and-chain. So the league decided to stay with the status quo.
To add a second to the game clock. So instead of 40 seconds and the refs giving it an extra second after it hits zero you start with 41 seconds and when it hits zero that's it. Tenths of a second would work too, I don't like the subjective nature of how it's always been.
Some time ago the NFL (in preseason) tried using a laser scope of some kind to replace the sticks-and-chain. The thinking was that this would improve ball placement, and result in more accurate calls as to whether the offense had or had not achieved a first down.
The drawback of this method is that there is no visual confirmation available to fans or to TV such as there is with the sticks-and-chain. So the league decided to stay with the status quo.
Jasper
Interesting. My thing is technology is such you could still develope visual aids and whatever else you need to accurately place the ball and down and distance markers.
Use a digital solution, and just have a person with the first down marker keep doing it for visual purposes. They could even have the marker beep when they are in the right spot.
In comment 16069331 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Call delay of game when the clock hits zero? It only requires a buzzer teacher to the clock like in basketball.
Or get rid of the rule.
While I agree that the way we do it now is stupid, I don't think a buzzer is the answer. Think about how that is going to work out. You will have multiple times during the game that the snap and the buzzer are simultaneous. Now what? What is a defensive player going to do? Is he going to keep going and then get a late hit penalty? Is he going to stop playing and then the play goes on because the ref deemed the snap to occur prior to the clock hitting zero? Or are you going to have the refs stop the game, discuss, and then state to the crowd that the play will result in a do over since the snap was before the buzzer but play was stopped? It isn't the answer. You cannot try to fix one issue with creating more issues.
The 41 seconds idea doesn't work either. The problem isn't 40 or 41 seconds. It is the human element of a ref looking at the clock and then getting his eyes back to the snap.
How about joining the 21st century and replacing the sticks and chain for measuring first downs
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I agree with that. As it stands, 10 yards is never really 10 yards. Hard to fix poor spots too, but there should be a way to do that with current technology.
The ref should have a buzzer on him like he is ready to get a table at Fridays. The buzzer should only be for the ref. If the buzzer goes off for him only then he doesn't have to have hia eyes on the play clock.
Once the play is started at near zero then the play can run on into infinity. There could be a big buzzer so the refs are not watching clock. Who cares? How many games has near zero affected?
Once the play is started at near zero then the play can run on into infinity. There could be a big buzzer so the refs are not watching clock. Who cares? How many games has near zero affected?
I disagree - I think the delay of game calls are super inconsistent. Some plays teams get a huge grace period, others the ref is like "quick draw". Any inconsistencies in officiating affect games - which unfortunately is all too prevalent.
Tough to do on those! Oh, and on the Sticks/Chain. Removing those would make things tougher on players, since they use those during play when they try and make 1st downs passing or running.
You REALLY don't want to lower your head to look at a down marker on the ground when a 300 lb lineman is trying to knock the snot out of you.
Anyone have an opinion on home team chooses to kick or receive and fore go the coin flip- except for fifth quarter ( tie game& Super Bowl)
Hockey has face off drop of puck, basketball has jump ball- each starts the game. The coin flip just decides who kicks to whom. Home team should have option.
Thoughts.
Game clock and play clock are different, the eagles are proposing a game clock change. This has has nothing to do with the play clock delay of game penalties. It’s about time on the clock after a FG, TD, incomplete or completed pass. However it would make sense for both clocks to adopt the rule of passed.
Unlike Basketball and hockey, the play keeps going if time runs out in the middle of a play. Does anyone really care if they ice the kicker with 1.2 or .8 seconds left? or snap the ball for a hail mary with .8 or .3 seconds?
Anyone have an opinion on home team chooses to kick or receive and fore go the coin flip- except for fifth quarter ( tie game& Super Bowl)
Hockey has face off drop of puck, basketball has jump ball- each starts the game. The coin flip just decides who kicks to whom. Home team should have option.
Thoughts.
I was never bothered by the game ending in a FG on the first drive like it used to.
When the play clock reaches zero. It would eliminate a ref looking at the clock then the ball. It seems there are a lot of missed delay of game calls.
I'm not 100% certain, but my recollection is that the play clock that you see in the stadium and on TV is not technically official, so it's unlike a shot clock in basketball. I may be wrong, but that was always the explanation when we would clearly see the play clock reach zero without a flag (or timeout).
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Route 9
I agree
eric2425ny
Excellent suggestion.
I’m quite sure they could use similar technology for delay of games and false starts
Ironic considering the fanbase can't seem to follow societies most basic.
The drawback of this method is that there is no visual confirmation available to fans or to TV such as there is with the sticks-and-chain. So the league decided to stay with the status quo.
Jasper
Or get rid of the rule.
Or get rid of the rule.
thats the point.....maybe it hadn't hit zero yet....maybe it was 0.2 seconds
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always the team that are proposing new rules?
Ironic considering the fanbase can't seem to follow societies most basic.
You mean eating horseshit isn’t normal?
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Call delay of game when the clock hits zero? It only requires a buzzer teacher to the clock like in basketball.
Or get rid of the rule.
thats the point.....maybe it hadn't hit zero yet....maybe it was 0.2 seconds
The real effect of this would be on the play clock.
The drawback of this method is that there is no visual confirmation available to fans or to TV such as there is with the sticks-and-chain. So the league decided to stay with the status quo.
Jasper
Interesting. My thing is technology is such you could still develope visual aids and whatever else you need to accurately place the ball and down and distance markers.
Use a digital solution, and just have a person with the first down marker keep doing it for visual purposes. They could even have the marker beep when they are in the right spot.
bLiTz 2k
Or get rid of the rule.
While I agree that the way we do it now is stupid, I don't think a buzzer is the answer. Think about how that is going to work out. You will have multiple times during the game that the snap and the buzzer are simultaneous. Now what? What is a defensive player going to do? Is he going to keep going and then get a late hit penalty? Is he going to stop playing and then the play goes on because the ref deemed the snap to occur prior to the clock hitting zero? Or are you going to have the refs stop the game, discuss, and then state to the crowd that the play will result in a do over since the snap was before the buzzer but play was stopped? It isn't the answer. You cannot try to fix one issue with creating more issues.
The 41 seconds idea doesn't work either. The problem isn't 40 or 41 seconds. It is the human element of a ref looking at the clock and then getting his eyes back to the snap.
I would remove many of the rules that were put in place over the past 30 years.
Make it more simple and barbaric again.
I agree with that. As it stands, 10 yards is never really 10 yards. Hard to fix poor spots too, but there should be a way to do that with current technology.
Apparently it is for NFL officials
I disagree - I think the delay of game calls are super inconsistent. Some plays teams get a huge grace period, others the ref is like "quick draw". Any inconsistencies in officiating affect games - which unfortunately is all too prevalent.
Tough to do on those! Oh, and on the Sticks/Chain. Removing those would make things tougher on players, since they use those during play when they try and make 1st downs passing or running.
You REALLY don't want to lower your head to look at a down marker on the ground when a 300 lb lineman is trying to knock the snot out of you.
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Interesting idea
Route 9
I agree
eric2425ny
Anyone have an opinion on home team chooses to kick or receive and fore go the coin flip- except for fifth quarter ( tie game& Super Bowl)
Hockey has face off drop of puck, basketball has jump ball- each starts the game. The coin flip just decides who kicks to whom. Home team should have option.
Thoughts.
Hockey has face off drop of puck, basketball has jump ball- each starts the game. The coin flip just decides who kicks to whom. Home team should have option.
Thoughts.
I was never bothered by the game ending in a FG on the first drive like it used to.
I'm not 100% certain, but my recollection is that the play clock that you see in the stadium and on TV is not technically official, so it's unlike a shot clock in basketball. I may be wrong, but that was always the explanation when we would clearly see the play clock reach zero without a flag (or timeout).