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NFT: Sunday NCAA torunament

Route 9 : 3/19/2023 9:07 am
Sunday, March 19 (Round of 32)

No. 3 Xavier vs. No. 11 Pitt | 12:10 p.m. | CBS
No. 3 Kansas State vs. No. 6 Kentucky | 2:40 p.m. | CBS
No. 2 Marquette vs. No. 7 Michigan State | 5:15 p.m. | CBS
No. 4 UConn vs. No. 5 Saint Mary's | 6:10 p.m. | TNT
No. 3 Baylor vs. No. 6 Creighton | 7:10 p.m. | TBS
No. 9 Florida Atlantic vs. No. 16 FDU | 7:45 p.m. | truTV
No. 4 Indiana vs. No. 5 Miami (Fla.) | 8:40 p.m. | TNT
No. 3 Gonzaga vs. No. 6 TCU | 9:40 p.m. | TBS
UConn is a lock  
Earl the goat : 3/19/2023 9:24 am : link
Big win today for Huskies
RE: UConn is a lock  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 9:25 am : link
In comment 16069971 Earl the goat said:
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Big win today for Huskies


Nothing is a lock with this team.
The 940 Sunday game  
bhill410 : 3/19/2023 9:51 am : link
Is so utterly unnecessary
RE: The 940 Sunday game  
John In CO : 3/19/2023 11:51 am : link
In comment 16069981 bhill410 said:
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Is so utterly unnecessary


Except for the millions and millions of people who DONT live in the eastern time zone and may enjoy watching a game on a Sunday evening.
RE: RE: The 940 Sunday game  
Jints in Carolina : 3/19/2023 12:02 pm : link
In comment 16070065 John In CO said:
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Is so utterly unnecessary



Except for the millions and millions of people who DONT live in the eastern time zone and may enjoy watching a game on a Sunday evening.


It's the weekend in the west too....they can deal with it.
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Route 9 : 3/19/2023 12:08 pm : link
Works for me.

I can just watch it on my phone at work. Nothing better than that.
The schedule is fine  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 12:15 pm : link
it would be different if it was the only game but spreading out 8 games like they did works well.
ABC.  
Crispino : 3/19/2023 12:52 pm : link
Anyone But Connecticut
RE: ABC.  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 1:02 pm : link
In comment 16070101 Crispino said:
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Anyone But Connecticut


Awwww
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/19/2023 1:37 pm : link
I think MSU upsets Marquette.
A BB pet peeve  
Colin@gbn : 3/19/2023 5:10 pm : link
Don't want to date myself but I have been religiously following the tournament since the very early 1960s - Ohio State and Cincinnati and all that. The one thing that bothers me about BB is the fact that if I have the ball - and technically 30 seconds to take a shot - why I can't decline to shoot free throws and keep the ball if I want. Nobody in any sport should ever be able to use 'fouling' as a strategy to make a comeback. In fact it feels sometimes to use a football analogy that if I had the ball 3rd and 7 with a minute to play and my opponent, with no TOs left, simply went off side. Stops the clock and instead of 3rd and 2, I'm 4th and 2 because the 5 yards was considered my play. Just a pet peeve of mine.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/19/2023 5:20 pm : link
Duke and Kentucky going down in back to back days...

Glorious.
RE: A BB pet peeve  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 5:23 pm : link
In comment 16070208 Colin@gbn said:
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Don't want to date myself but I have been religiously following the tournament since the very early 1960s - Ohio State and Cincinnati and all that. The one thing that bothers me about BB is the fact that if I have the ball - and technically 30 seconds to take a shot - why I can't decline to shoot free throws and keep the ball if I want. Nobody in any sport should ever be able to use 'fouling' as a strategy to make a comeback. In fact it feels sometimes to use a football analogy that if I had the ball 3rd and 7 with a minute to play and my opponent, with no TOs left, simply went off side. Stops the clock and instead of 3rd and 2, I'm 4th and 2 because the 5 yards was considered my play. Just a pet peeve of mine.


Because the game would then just be over. If you can’t hit free throws with the lead then you deserve to lose.
Also  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 5:24 pm : link
if you are just running out clock how else is the opponent supposed to take the ball away? Don’t think that’s a remotely realistic way to play basketball.
RE: Also  
Colin@gbn : 3/19/2023 6:59 pm : link
In comment 16070228 UConn4523 said:
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if you are just running out clock how else is the opponent supposed to take the ball away?


Hey about the old-fashioned way; play defense; steal the ball; force a turnover. And I hate that line 'if you can't make your FTs ... ' which is just a cliche. I am allowed 30 seconds on the shot clock to take my shot. In what other sport does the defense get to decide when the team with the ball gets to shoot and by committing a foul. The other scenario is what if I want to take a three and the commits a common foul. Now I can't even try a three cause I have to take a couple of FTs.

I suspect that when the rules were drawn up probably upwards of a 100 years ago nobody thought about stuff like that and in the modern nobody no league is likely going to change a rule that makes end games more exciting just to be fair!

The other thing that has changed is since they went to the two-shots for all fouls over the limit, there is much less pressure on the FT shooting team. Back in the day when all common fouls after 7 were one-on-one there was real pressure on the shooter to make the first; now with two shots there is a lot less pressure. Still, its a very unusual sporting situation.
It’s not a cliche  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 7:22 pm : link
it’s an integral part of the game, just like playing defense, stealing the ball, and forcing a turnover.
RE: RE: UConn is a lock  
Earl the goat : 3/19/2023 7:51 pm : link
In comment 16069972 UConn4523 said:
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Big win today for Huskies



Nothing is a lock with this team.



UConn a lock. Like I said before
RE: RE: Also  
IchabodGiant : 3/19/2023 8:02 pm : link
In comment 16070283 Colin@gbn said:
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if you are just running out clock how else is the opponent supposed to take the ball away?



Hey about the old-fashioned way; play defense; steal the ball; force a turnover. And I hate that line 'if you can't make your FTs ... ' which is just a cliche. I am allowed 30 seconds on the shot clock to take my shot. In what other sport does the defense get to decide when the team with the ball gets to shoot and by committing a foul. The other scenario is what if I want to take a three and the commits a common foul. Now I can't even try a three cause I have to take a couple of FTs.

I suspect that when the rules were drawn up probably upwards of a 100 years ago nobody thought about stuff like that and in the modern nobody no league is likely going to change a rule that makes end games more exciting just to be fair!

The other thing that has changed is since they went to the two-shots for all fouls over the limit, there is much less pressure on the FT shooting team. Back in the day when all common fouls after 7 were one-on-one there was real pressure on the shooter to make the first; now with two shots there is a lot less pressure. Still, its a very unusual sporting situation.


7-9 common fouls is still 1+1.

You follow the tournament religiously and you didn’t know that?!
Earl, you are the Goat  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 8:16 pm : link
Let’s goooooo!
RE: Earl, you are the Goat  
Earl the goat : 3/19/2023 8:21 pm : link
In comment 16070324 UConn4523 said:
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Let’s goooooo!



Final 4. Guarantee it
I’ll take it  
UConn4523 : 3/19/2023 8:46 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Also  
Colin@gbn : 3/19/2023 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16070321 IchabodGiant said:
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7-9 common fouls is still 1+1.

You follow the tournament religiously and you didn’t know that?!


Did I really have to spell that our you. In the 16 games how many times did you see a guy have to hit the front end of a 1-1 on fouls 7-8-9 in the final two minutes. In fact did you see any! I didn't but I sure as hell saw a lot of players - literally dozens stepping up and shooting two in end game scenarios.
RE: ...  
Carson53 : 3/20/2023 9:39 am : link
In comment 16070123 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think MSU upsets Marquette.
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Unfortunately that happened, screwed up my Final Four.
One of my brackets is going pretty well, the other one not so much. Of course I had Kansas and Marquette making it to Final Four, not this year...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Also  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2023 9:46 am : link
In comment 16070386 Colin@gbn said:
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In comment 16070283 Colin@gbn said:


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7-9 common fouls is still 1+1.

You follow the tournament religiously and you didn’t know that?!



Did I really have to spell that our you. In the 16 games how many times did you see a guy have to hit the front end of a 1-1 on fouls 7-8-9 in the final two minutes. In fact did you see any! I didn't but I sure as hell saw a lot of players - literally dozens stepping up and shooting two in end game scenarios.


Manage your fouls better then. If you are a team that hacks then the opposition is now in the double bonus.

It’s fine that you don’t like the rule but you cant say our responses are cliched when both fouls and free throws are a huge part of the game. And if you got your way you’d just see fouling happening sooner, and more players fouling out earlier in the game since the last minute or so would be effectively dribbling with nothing happening. I’m all ears on a better way to do it but yours isn’t it.
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