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Thus far, Giants leading the NFL in FA spending

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/19/2023 11:07 pm
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The #Giants brought back a lot of their own players to reach this number but they lead in free agency with $239.1M committed to contracts. #Broncos are number 2 at $233M and that is more on outside free agents. #Saints are the other team over $200M
Improvement Index  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/19/2023 11:16 pm : link
Giants arguably the best team from last year in the top 5.



Improvement Index through March 17 - ( New Window )
had put this on a different cap thread  
Eric on Li : 3/19/2023 11:20 pm : link
In comment 16070087 Eric on Li said:
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may deserve it's own thread but otc has nyg #1 in FA spending the 1 caveat is that the majority of this is jones. if you remove his fully guaranteed 82m then the nyg would drop down to roughly middle of the pack, though they'd bump up from there back into the top 10 if you also factored in waller (trade) since that's roughly +12.5m guaranteed and barkley at whatever he decides to sign for whether it's the 10.5m guaranteed of the tag or 20m+ on an extension.

like i said above the amount of non-jones spending doesn't surprise me too much, just a little surprised they swung so big on risk/reward types.

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I will be honest with everyone  
ArcadeSlumlord : 3/20/2023 12:09 am : link
this seems highly aggressive. I don't know how I feel about it.
Get a grip  
djm : 3/20/2023 12:11 am : link
They signed their own ascending young qb to big long term contract and signed their pro bowl rb to the FT. Even ignoring the other FAs they signed, of course they spent a lot of money this offseason. And of course some are worried.
I hate the idea of winning the off season  
JerseyCityJoe : 3/20/2023 12:16 am : link
But we can use the help.
I can’t think of a more useless stat  
JesseS : 3/20/2023 12:51 am : link
Those are all the worst teams with a lot of money to spend. Most of that money we spent on our own guys. We must have racked high when we signed KG!
RE: I will be honest with everyone  
Payasdaddy : 3/20/2023 1:17 am : link
In comment 16070427 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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this seems highly aggressive. I don't know how I feel about it.


I don’t feel anything that aggressive
A lot has been our own. Big positions, must signs. Like qb and arguably saquon. Besides that lb our only “ big “ get

It’s not people like solder and Galloday from our previous cap destroyer.
Don't know how I feel about this  
The_Taxman89_10 : 3/20/2023 1:38 am : link
I mean I think we've had a good free agency off-season but not the type of off-season that screams we paid the most in the league. For all that money we spent, we still have a lot of holes, mainly still on the WR position, OL, safety, corner depth, and pass rusher. I would grade the outside acquisitions of Waller, Okereke, Campbell, Nunez-Roches, and Smith a B. That's a good grade but not top of the free agent spending type of grade in my opinion. Hopefully we can fill those holes in the draft with guys who can contribute right away.
Signing Jones kind of skews the whole thing  
George from PA : 3/20/2023 5:44 am : link
Lamar signs a longterm deal.....Ravens probably moves to the top.

The Giants were the only team to sign their "franchise" QB.
RE: Signing Jones kind of skews the whole thing  
section125 : 3/20/2023 5:52 am : link
In comment 16070441 George from PA said:
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Lamar signs a longterm deal.....Ravens probably moves to the top.

The Giants were the only team to sign their "franchise" QB.


This^.
Jones ate 2/3 of the money involved. Okereke is really the only "big ticket" signing. The rest are really 2nd level. The biggest splash next to Jones was the Waller trade.
RE: Signing Jones kind of skews the whole thing  
Vin_Cuccs : 3/20/2023 6:00 am : link
In comment 16070441 George from PA said:
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Lamar signs a longterm deal.....Ravens probably moves to the top.

The Giants were the only team to sign their "franchise" QB.


This was exactly my thought. I’d like to see the numbers without quarterback included.
What's encouraging is that...  
Milton : 3/20/2023 6:13 am : link
...at the same time they have the 5th most cap space in 2024 (117M at this point, obviously subject to change, as there are more moves to make before opening day).
What is creative that the Giants  
Giantimistic : 3/20/2023 6:50 am : link
Actually had internal players worth signing. The risk is lower when you are assigning players already part of your system.
The most interesting thing from the table above  
ZogZerg : 3/20/2023 7:15 am : link
is that the Saints are in 3rd in Free Agency spending when they were 50 million over the cap right before Free Agency started.

And, they are already about 50 million over next years cap.
RE: The most interesting thing from the table above  
Pepe LePugh : 3/20/2023 8:55 am : link
In comment 16070458 ZogZerg said:
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is that the Saints are in 3rd in Free Agency spending when they were 50 million over the cap right before Free Agency started.

And, they are already about 50 million over next years cap.

Gotta think it’s in large part restructuring players that were already on the roster.
Schoen has done a great job so far. The risk is  
Blue21 : 3/20/2023 9:26 am : link
Injury history of some of these players but the upgrades overall and the amount of money per player has been smaller than I expected. He's filled a lot of holes and hasn't overpaid and where there are injury risk it appears he can get out of the contracts after one year for the most part and the players are younger vets not older vets we seemed to have to grab in the past.
jones $ skews things but they're still top 10 in spending w/o him  
Eric on Li : 3/20/2023 10:45 am : link
if you add in the $24m to barkley and waller not currently factored into the numbers (see math above).

and yes, they have been very aggressive this offseason, i think it's eyes wide shut to say anything different.

jones contract itself was aggressive. it's probably close to 1/100 that a player's contract ends up more $ than initial reporting and his will.
okereke got a contract significantly bigger than all the other LBs in this class except Edmunds.
waller's contract/cost was reasonable, but he's 30+ and had injuries. Anyone 30+ still performing at a skill position is an outlier.
campbell got a pretty good deal for a guy who has been hurt that much.
they gave slayton a 6x raise after nearly cutting him at 1/3 that amount after camp last year when sills somehow outperformed him in their eyes.

nothing they did was unjustifiable and id have done a lot of those same moves but it's a good idea to be clear eyed on risk. they took on more than id have guessed. swap okereke with tj edwards or germaine pratt and you probably have enough room to also have love back. campbell + slayton $ could have been brandin cooks, who for all his issues has eclipsed 1k yards 2 of the last 3 years and only missed 10 total games due to injury in a 9 season career.

i like that they made confident choices in who they wanted but they paid some premiums to do so.
This is meaningless.  
Kmed6000 : 3/20/2023 11:10 am : link
It's not like we've signed a bunch of big name FA's. We signed our own guys and made a few value signings.

This is just an indication that there aren't a lot of high priced FA's out there and the Giants had a lot of FA's to resign.
It’s a silly stat  
RCPhoenix : 3/20/2023 11:26 am : link
Obviously influenced by the fact that only a few teams singed QBs this offseason.
like what they have done  
bc4life : 3/20/2023 11:45 am : link
was hoping for some IOL help in FA
it's not meaningless it's math - take out all the guys the resigned  
Eric on Li : 3/20/2023 12:44 pm : link
they still spent almost $110m, which would rank right around the top 10 even with all the other teams in the top 10 still factoring in their resigned players.

waller (51m total, 12m gtd, 1.5m in roster bonuses per year)
okereke (40m total, 22m gtd)
nunez-roches (12m total, 5.5m gtd)
campbell (4.7m total + 2m incentives, 4.7m practically gtd)

the guarantees on those 4 deals add up to about 45m, which would again be top half of the league spend even with other teams having their own fa's resigned included.

the trade for waller allowed them to have a low% of guaranteed $ on their biggest move, which is what the "they aren't trading draft picks for veterans!!!!" crew didnt seem to understand.
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