you need guys like that on the team for culture and to get the locker room to operate the way the organization wants. Now, as far as on the field goes, as a 3rd or 4th option, who provides deep speed and chunk play possibilities, he's fine. Its when he has to be the go to guy, that's when his warts are magnified.
i would have chosen love over him but he's easy to root for. total anti-diva which is saying something for any wr. maybe with a contract resolved and feeling like he's not fighting just to keep his head above water he can back to what he was as a rookie. for a guy who with bad hands he made a lot of really tough catches that year.
among other reasons... Slayton on re-signing w/ NYG - ( New Window )
i think his familiarity with dj and the offense is a low key good reason for bringing him back.
if this is the last year they have kafka in the building, maybe it wouldnt have been the best idea to change all of the receivers since this is supposedly a pretty complicated system?
(i think the same argument can probably get made for love/wink too but they obviously made their choice)
He and DJ have always had good chemistry. Maybe with a little less attention on him thanks to Waller and Campbell, he can play a bit more relaxed. Never had any doubts about his want-to.
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Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
Amani Toomer?
I don't recall Amani having multiple consecutive seasons with the drops. His seemingly regular clutch sideline catches do seem to define him I think.
call me crazy. Not special by any means...not Nicks, Cruz and Mario and no one is saying they are, but Parris, Slay and Hodgins can all play and get open. Young WR Robinson will push the vets once healthy. The TE is dynamic. The other TE is a legit pro talent. The QB and RB keep defenses honest with their legs. I like it.
Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
I'll expand the category a bit to "pass catcher" and include Shockey. He had serious dropsies, and they put him through the "outhouse drill". Got inside a porta-potty type enclosure and they would open the door as a ball was right upon him. He had to think fast while softening his hands. They say it cured him, and the proof was in the puddin'. He definitely improved.
Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
I'll expand the category a bit to "pass catcher" and include Shockey. He had serious dropsies, and they put him through the "outhouse drill". Got inside a porta-potty type enclosure and they would open the door as a ball was right upon him. He had to think fast while softening his hands. They say it cured him, and the proof was in the puddin'. He definitely improved.
I like Slayton but unfortunate that bad hands is the second hardest
Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
Not a wr obviously but Howard Cross arrived in 1989 with a fireplace brick mounted on each wrist. By the time he was done he was Mr. Reliable. So it can be done!
Good answer on his part, but I doubt he's still a Giant if we lose that WC game vs. the Vikes. And I know Dabs went over to him afterwards to console him, but man oh man...that would have been a tough sell to the fanbase if we've retained him. And I get management doesn't listen to the fans-as someone once said...if you listen to people in the stands, you'll be sitting with them before long-but these signings don't happen in a vacuum either.
Their guy has caught a ton of shit like he was a 1st round bust
He came at a very reasonable price. And as bad as that Minny drop was(yeah. REALLY BAD) the Giants don’t make the playoffs without his production. I’ll take this guy warts and all. Realistically no one is expecting him to be the #1 or even # 2 WR. But when he needed to be he was pretty much one of the few guys who showed up every week
call me crazy. Not special by any means...not Nicks, Cruz and Mario and no one is saying they are, but Parris, Slay and Hodgins can all play and get open. Young WR Robinson will push the vets once healthy. The TE is dynamic. The other TE is a legit pro talent. The QB and RB keep defenses honest with their legs. I like it.
As do I but for our blue collar WR corp to work in actual games we need the OL to be better in pass pro especially for medium and deep routes and in the middle overall run and pass protection
Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
Not a wr obviously but Howard Cross arrived in 1989 with a fireplace brick mounted on each wrist. By the time he was done he was Mr. Reliable. So it can be done!
Thank you for reminding me of that. I loved Cross. That guy could block like a tackle.
I guess there is sometimes a real bond between QB and WR. He seemed genuinely happy for Daniel Jones.
I expect the QB OL relationship, that's a protector one, but I did not expect these comments from Slayton.
this is awesome and IMO it says a lot about both of them.
Great question and great answer.
Slayton on re-signing w/ NYG - ( New Window )
i think his familiarity with dj and the offense is a low key good reason for bringing him back.
if this is the last year they have kafka in the building, maybe it wouldnt have been the best idea to change all of the receivers since this is supposedly a pretty complicated system?
(i think the same argument can probably get made for love/wink too but they obviously made their choice)
I agree Eric, it made a lot of sense to bring him back. I was sure he was going to take more money and go elsewhere.
Any coach could have yelled, screamed, cussed him out...
Not Daboll.
He tells him.. hey we need you.. lets go..
Slayton is down..
Daboll physically tells him.. KEEP YOUR CHIN UP.. Your our guy.. we need you..
Thats HUGE...
Keep Your Chin up.. - ( New Window )
Amani Toomer?
I guess there is sometimes a real bond between QB and WR. He seemed genuinely happy for Daniel Jones.
I expect the QB OL relationship, that's a protector one, but I did not expect these comments from Slayton.
this is awesome and IMO it says a lot about both of them.
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..."Daniel Jones slander is not being tolerated on my timeline. That'll be that way until the day I die....."
Here's a clip of the 'DJ slander' quote
Daniel Jones slander is not being tolerated on my timeline - ( New Window )
Looking at his drop %, it's interesting that it wasn't a problem in his rookie year.
His drop % was 2.4% (2 on 84 targets) his rookie yr. It's been up around 10% the last 2 yrs (7 on 71 targets in '22). What happened?
Would be great if he could get his hands back from his rookie yr and be a solid dependable #3/4 WR.
More from Slayton - ( New Window )
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Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
Amani Toomer?
I don't recall Amani having multiple consecutive seasons with the drops. His seemingly regular clutch sideline catches do seem to define him I think.
But sometimes questions like these produce an answer that tells you more about the individual.
I'm grateful for the question and even more impressed with the answer.
I'll expand the category a bit to "pass catcher" and include Shockey. He had serious dropsies, and they put him through the "outhouse drill". Got inside a porta-potty type enclosure and they would open the door as a ball was right upon him. He had to think fast while softening his hands. They say it cured him, and the proof was in the puddin'. He definitely improved.
I'll expand the category a bit to "pass catcher" and include Shockey. He had serious dropsies, and they put him through the "outhouse drill". Got inside a porta-potty type enclosure and they would open the door as a ball was right upon him. He had to think fast while softening his hands. They say it cured him, and the proof was in the puddin'. He definitely improved.
Not a wr obviously but Howard Cross arrived in 1989 with a fireplace brick mounted on each wrist. By the time he was done he was Mr. Reliable. So it can be done!
As do I but for our blue collar WR corp to work in actual games we need the OL to be better in pass pro especially for medium and deep routes and in the middle overall run and pass protection
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Who is the last WR with a bad case of the drops to suddenly develop good hands and turn it around? Engram doesn't count.
Not a wr obviously but Howard Cross arrived in 1989 with a fireplace brick mounted on each wrist. By the time he was done he was Mr. Reliable. So it can be done!