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Feliciano to 49ers

10thAve : 3/20/2023 5:08 pm
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Ben Jones is still out there  
No1MDGiantsFan : 3/20/2023 5:11 pm : link
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This is a bigger loss than many may think  
fish3321 : 3/20/2023 5:12 pm : link
Center now comes a need, and starting a Rookie next to Ezedu is going to be tough. Especially against the cowboys and eagles who run a lot of stunts.

Feliciano was not perfect by any means, but he knew the system, made the right calls at the LOS and held down the fort.

Jones will now have a new Center AGAIN UGH

Does this make Bredeson  
Coopcomic : 3/20/2023 5:13 pm : link
our current center?
fish  
Toth029 : 3/20/2023 5:13 pm : link
Daboll and Schoen felt comfortable enough to let him go.

We'll see how things unravel.
wow that may be the most surprising move of the offseason  
Eric on Li : 3/20/2023 5:13 pm : link
he was far from irreplaceable just thought he was one of their guys. the center market was pretty cheap too.

i wonder if they want to give both ezeudu and bredeson chances to start and to not have to compete with each other at lg?
Does this make Bredeson  
Coopcomic : 3/20/2023 5:13 pm : link
our current center?
Now I didn't love Feliciano  
BlueHurricane : 3/20/2023 5:14 pm : link
But I do find this quite weird when added to losing Gates. Wonder what they are thinking. They seemed to life JF a lot more than most here.
RE: Does this make Bredeson  
Eric on Li : 3/20/2023 5:15 pm : link
In comment 16071001 Coopcomic said:
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our current center?


i think so. and ezeudu the starting lg. cant imagine they are counting from lemieux with all the injuries and how bad he looked. i have a lot more faith in wyatt davis and tyre phillips than lemieux.
Think they roll with BB  
Payasdaddy : 3/20/2023 5:15 pm : link
May Shane L works in there
Rookie also

If youngsters step up and improve IOL of ezuedu,BB, SL, glow and mckethen may be workable
And of course once of our top two picks could be IOL. Heck it may be two picks over first 5 rds
This makes losing Gates sting a little more  
Adam G in MD : 3/20/2023 5:16 pm : link
Don't know whether Gates' drop in performance last year was a temporary result due to injury, or permanent. Nor do I even know if Gates would have gone back to C from G. But I would feel more comfortable with him still on the roster.
RE: RE: Does this make Bredeson  
Payasdaddy : 3/20/2023 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16071003 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16071001 Coopcomic said:


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our current center?



i think so. and ezeudu the starting lg. cant imagine they are counting from lemieux with all the injuries and how bad he looked. i have a lot more faith in wyatt davis and tyre phillips than lemieux.


And they may like Davis and kindley
RE: Does this make Bredeson  
BillT : 3/20/2023 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16070998 Coopcomic said:
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our current center?

That's what Eric has on the depth chart, Seems a reasonable take. With Ezudu/Lemieux competing at LG and Glowinski/McKethan (if healthy) at RG that's not too bad.
Bummer  
Anakim : 3/20/2023 5:16 pm : link
...Oh well
this changes things a little.  
Kev in Cali : 3/20/2023 5:16 pm : link
Center need anyone?
RE: Does this make Bredeson  
Del Shofner : 3/20/2023 5:16 pm : link
In comment 16071001 Coopcomic said:
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our current center?


Either Bredeson or Ezeudu.

Makes the mocks with us picking a C high a little more realistic, too, IMO.
RE: This is a bigger loss than many may think  
Larry in Pencilvania : 3/20/2023 5:17 pm : link
In comment 16070997 fish3321 said:
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Center now comes a need, and starting a Rookie next to Ezedu is going to be tough. Especially against the cowboys and eagles who run a lot of stunts.

Feliciano was not perfect by any means, but he knew the system, made the right calls at the LOS and held down the fort.

Jones will now have a new Center AGAIN UGH


It was need either way. IMHO Schoen and Dabs had a view of Feliciano and he wasn't good enough to build on going forward. He was a one year stop gap. Time to move on and get better
Wasn't his biggest fan,  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/20/2023 5:17 pm : link
but thought they'd bring back one of Gates or Feliciano. Surprised that isn't the case.
RE: This is a bigger loss than many may think  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2023 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16070997 fish3321 said:
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Center now comes a need, and starting a Rookie next to Ezedu is going to be tough. Especially against the cowboys and eagles who run a lot of stunts.

Feliciano was not perfect by any means, but he knew the system, made the right calls at the LOS and held down the fort.

Jones will now have a new Center AGAIN UGH


If he was so important, why didn't the FO offer him more competitive money. I don't think the FO or Daboll valued him as much as you seem to.
I’m actually surprised  
Breeze_94 : 3/20/2023 5:18 pm : link
He wasn’t brought back. Not a huge loss either way. But, Giants do need a veteran center in the mix.
No loss  
jeff57 : 3/20/2023 5:20 pm : link
They needed to upgrade the position. He was not the answer.
RE: RE: This is a bigger loss than many may think  
BlackLight : 3/20/2023 5:21 pm : link
In comment 16071016 gidiefor said:
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In comment 16070997 fish3321 said:


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Center now comes a need, and starting a Rookie next to Ezedu is going to be tough. Especially against the cowboys and eagles who run a lot of stunts.

Feliciano was not perfect by any means, but he knew the system, made the right calls at the LOS and held down the fort.

Jones will now have a new Center AGAIN UGH




If he was so important, why didn't the FO offer him more competitive money. I don't think the FO or Daboll valued him as much as you seem to.


They clearly didn't. But the question is, should they have? Obviously, we should defer to the opinions of the professionals, but it would help to have a sense of what their plan is.
RE: fish  
fish3321 : 3/20/2023 5:22 pm : link
In comment 16070999 Toth029 said:
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Daboll and Schoen felt comfortable enough to let him go.

We'll see how things unravel.


I agree with you Toth. But guys like Gates and Felcianio held this team together last season, especially down the stretch. NOT guys like Slayton and Parris Campell.

Last season, JS promised to keep DJ upright, and look what happened.... we won a playoff game with a half decent O-line and a healthy SB.


Remember when we started Billy Price, Matt Skura, Nate Soldier and Hernandez? Remember when DJ had all these strip sack fumble problems?

My point is this: Don't get too cute, JS- re-invest in the O-line, they are what got you this far!



Other FA  
TY in CT : 3/20/2023 5:22 pm : link
Conner Mcgovern (Jets) perhaps?
Need a vet  
AcesUp : 3/20/2023 5:24 pm : link
I do think the solution likely is in-house, maybe a Day 2 draft pick but somebody with some starting experience needs to be added. Doesn't have to be BPA, find another Feliciano.
I would not count out Bredeson  
Jay on the Island : 3/20/2023 5:24 pm : link
At center.
May he help them at center  
FranknWeezer : 3/20/2023 5:25 pm : link
as much as Weston Richburg did.
RE: I would not count out Bredeson  
AcesUp : 3/20/2023 5:25 pm : link
In comment 16071027 Jay on the Island said:
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At center.


I think that's the Giants plan. I'd feel a little better with more competition there but Bredeson made big improvements last year.
The Giants' center play was awful.  
81_Great_Dane : 3/20/2023 5:26 pm : link
I don't think we should sweat those guys leaving. However, yeah, they're going to need to acquire a couple of centers — and/or move someone already on the roster to center.
In Schoen we trust.....  
George from PA : 3/20/2023 5:26 pm : link
We all agreed that Feliciano wasn't good enough.

If we thought that....I will assume the coaches and personal departments knows it.

They must have a plan
RE: This is a bigger loss than many may think  
Matt M. : 3/20/2023 5:27 pm : link
In comment 16070997 fish3321 said:
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Center now comes a need, and starting a Rookie next to Ezedu is going to be tough. Especially against the cowboys and eagles who run a lot of stunts.

Feliciano was not perfect by any means, but he knew the system, made the right calls at the LOS and held down the fort.

Jones will now have a new Center AGAIN UGH
Center was just as big a need if we re-signed him. He was terrible at OC. At this point, we might be better off with Bredeson given a shot at OC until we have a better OC in place. I expect us to draft one and sign a FA.
RE: I would not count out Bredeson  
Anakim : 3/20/2023 5:27 pm : link
In comment 16071027 Jay on the Island said:
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At center.


Don't sleep on Pio
A bit shocked we didn’t bring back either center  
SteelGiant : 3/20/2023 5:27 pm : link
But I guess they thought Feliciano was not as as good as Bredeson, which is bad if center is your only position. Gates was too pricey for what he is right now, but this quite a gamble
RE: The Giants' center play was awful.  
UConn4523 : 3/20/2023 5:28 pm : link
In comment 16071032 81_Great_Dane said:
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I don't think we should sweat those guys leaving. However, yeah, they're going to need to acquire a couple of centers — and/or move someone already on the roster to center.


That’s where I’m at. If anything it makes it more clear we will be upgrading Center. I don’t think the play in the interior can get much worse.
Feliciano spent the first four years of his career in Oakland.  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/20/2023 5:29 pm : link
Maybe it came down to him wanting to return to the Bay area. He's originally from New York, but his family moved to Florida a long time ago. I guess he'll play guard, with Brendel remaining at center.

Or maybe the Giants simply decided to move on. Although he's far from the worst center in the League, I don't expect he'll be a big loss. (I know - be careful what you wish for.)
If they want a veteran  
jeff57 : 3/20/2023 5:29 pm : link
Ben Jones is still out there. But they need to draft a center
Are there any decent Centers available?  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/20/2023 5:30 pm : link
This loss has me shocked.
RE: RE: The Giants' center play was awful.  
Eric on Li : 3/20/2023 5:30 pm : link
In comment 16071042 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 16071032 81_Great_Dane said:


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I don't think we should sweat those guys leaving. However, yeah, they're going to need to acquire a couple of centers — and/or move someone already on the roster to center.



That’s where I’m at. If anything it makes it more clear we will be upgrading Center. I don’t think the play in the interior can get much worse.


things can always get worst but for the majority of the season it was pretty terrible. it got a little better down the stretch but it was definitely an area that was bad for enough of the season that upgrading shouldnt be impossible.
This, IMHO, is a good sign.  
section125 : 3/20/2023 5:31 pm : link
They either go with Bredesen or Ezeudu there and look for a vet C later in the year and likely draft one.
Shuffle makes a spot likely for Ezeudu imv  
JonC : 3/20/2023 5:33 pm : link
They want their young bucks to play, and Feliciano was a bit of a disappointment last season. Pencil in Bredeson at OC, wager on Ez at LG, and see what the rest of UFA and draft bring.
My initial thought was Bredeson would be the interim Center  
Matt M. : 3/20/2023 5:35 pm : link
But, Ezeudu was mentioned as a possibility there last year and Lemieux practiced there a bit last summer. I wouldn't rely on Lemiuex for anything other than depth and even that may be on thin ice. But Ezeudu and Bredeson could potentially be LG and OC, unclear who would man which position yet.

That said, I'd really like to draft a good OC.
he wasn't that good  
mphbullet36 : 3/20/2023 5:36 pm : link
that is why he's gone
RE: My initial thought was Bredeson would be the interim Center  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2023 5:38 pm : link
In comment 16071053 Matt M. said:
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But, Ezeudu was mentioned as a possibility there last year and Lemieux practiced there a bit last summer. I wouldn't rely on Lemiuex for anything other than depth and even that may be on thin ice. But Ezeudu and Bredeson could potentially be LG and OC, unclear who would man which position yet.

That said, I'd really like to draft a good OC.


At his best Bredeson is a backup

There is no doubt that either a vet center will be brought in, or a center will be drafted, or maybe even both
Im not saying Gates or Feliciano are the "Answer"  
fish3321 : 3/20/2023 5:39 pm : link
but at the very worst they are very solid depth... I've seen our seasons crumble too many times the past 5-6 years when 1 o-linemen goes down and backup cant keep the QB off his ass.
Feliciano  
The_Taxman89_10 : 3/20/2023 5:39 pm : link
Not a huge loss but this tells me we're most likely going center in the 1st or 2nd round. Also, why is everyone so high on Ezeudu? I see him penciled in as the LG on a lot of these posts. I didn't see much that popped when he played last year. And he got beat out by Lemieux, Bredeson and a 1 legged Gates.
I'm guessing they have a plan ....  
Beer Man : 3/20/2023 5:40 pm : link
But, I don't it as a big loss as some do. Feliciano may have known the system and the OL calls, but he wasn't a natural center and was a terrible blocker. I see Gates as the bigger loss.
RE: Feliciano  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2023 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16071060 The_Taxman89_10 said:
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Not a huge loss but this tells me we're most likely going center in the 1st or 2nd round. Also, why is everyone so high on Ezeudu? I see him penciled in as the LG on a lot of these posts. I didn't see much that popped when he played last year. And he got beat out by Lemieux, Bredeson and a 1 legged Gates.


This is simply not true -- he was injured and placed on IR -- he kept getting starting chances and they also rotated him into games
RE: Feliciano  
section125 : 3/20/2023 5:43 pm : link
In comment 16071060 The_Taxman89_10 said:
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Not a huge loss but this tells me we're most likely going center in the 1st or 2nd round. Also, why is everyone so high on Ezeudu? I see him penciled in as the LG on a lot of these posts. I didn't see much that popped when he played last year. And he got beat out by Lemieux, Bredeson and a 1 legged Gates.


He did and he didn't. He got hurt. Ezeudu can move really well. Yes he did have pass blocking issues, early on. But his run blocking is really good.
I think Lemieux's  
mittenedman : 3/20/2023 5:45 pm : link
in the running at C too.

It's pretty obvious where the Giants think they sucked up front last year, though. We got manhandled by the Eagles and Cowboys up front. We can't just return the same OL that didn't match up.
RE: Feliciano  
BillT : 3/20/2023 5:45 pm : link
In comment 16071060 The_Taxman89_10 said:
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Not a huge loss but this tells me we're most likely going center in the 1st or 2nd round. Also, why is everyone so high on Ezeudu? I see him penciled in as the LG on a lot of these posts. I didn't see much that popped when he played last year. And he got beat out by Lemieux, Bredeson and a 1 legged Gates.

Remember, injuries played a pretty big part in that. They certainly drafted him believing he was starting material. Now we'll see.
Feliciano  
Cheech d : 3/20/2023 5:46 pm : link
I’m mildly surprised that both Gates and Feliciano were allowed to leave. That said the pressure up the middle we had last year was totally unacceptable. I certainly didn’t want either player to start in 2023 but thought one would be depth. I have no problem with this decision and expect a center and a guard to be drafted next month.
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