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10thAve : 3/20/2023 5:08 pm
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Surprised  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/20/2023 5:49 pm : link
But pretty sure if they wanted him back, he would be back.
RE: Feliciano  
fish3321 : 3/20/2023 5:51 pm : link
In comment 16071069 Cheech d said:
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I’m mildly surprised that both Gates and Feliciano were allowed to leave. That said the pressure up the middle we had last year was totally unacceptable. I certainly didn’t want either player to start in 2023 but thought one would be depth. I have no problem with this decision and expect a center and a guard to be drafted next month.


cheech- depth is exactly my point. It's one injury away from looking an awful lot like 2015-2021 Offensive line.
Perfect  
uncledave : 3/20/2023 5:52 pm : link
Gates and Feliciano needed to go
RE: Surprised  
Ivan15 : 3/20/2023 5:53 pm : link
In comment 16071072 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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But pretty sure if they wanted him back, he would be back.
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I agree with you Peter. Since his Dad lives in NY, I figured the Giants only needed to match another team’s offer, so I’m guessing 49ers offer was higher than the Giants wanted to go.
Why would I be surprised?  
Big Blue '56 : 3/20/2023 5:54 pm : link
They brought him in, saw his play and decided he wasn’t in their plans moving forward. That’s encouraging to me. They’re not beholden to anyone who doesn’t do the job they expect. No loyalty. You know the “sin” this org. has been accused of exhibiting..
The area he was really good was  
mittenedman : 3/20/2023 5:55 pm : link
outside zone, Shanahan was all over that.
Drafting a center now becomes a need on day 2  
Rick in Dallas : 3/20/2023 5:56 pm : link
I don’t hold out much hope in Lemieux as a possibility at center
Always injured.
Looks like they roll with Bredeson
RE: RE: Feliciano  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2023 5:56 pm : link
In comment 16071074 fish3321 said:
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cheech- depth is exactly my point. It's one injury away from looking an awful lot like 2015-2021 Offensive line.


this is a slight over-reaction -- you have an all-pro left tackle and a presumably up and coming RT

from 2015-2021 there was no RT, and no guards

they have up an coming guard in Ezeudo and the reports are that McKethan is well-liked

The Giants will bring a center in. This group running the Giants is not amateur hour
Big deal  
eli4life : 3/20/2023 5:59 pm : link
I never believed for a minute our starting center was on the roster yet
Part of the theory  
Matt123 : 3/20/2023 6:00 pm : link
Part of the theory that the staff liked Feliciano is based on them not trying Gates at center. It's possible they just weren't that impressed with either of them.

Question I have is what are they looking for arch-type wise  
DavidinBMNY : 3/20/2023 6:01 pm : link
Do they want more of a Kelce or more of a Frederick type?

In this system does fluid/move work better or power?
RE: The Giants' center play was awful.  
DavidinBMNY : 3/20/2023 6:03 pm : link
In comment 16071032 81_Great_Dane said:
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I don't think we should sweat those guys leaving. However, yeah, they're going to need to acquire a couple of centers — and/or move someone already on the roster to center.
I'm not sure there is system for but there are or 4 highly regarded centers in the draft.
RE: Part of the theory  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/20/2023 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16071088 Matt123 said:
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Part of the theory that the staff liked Feliciano is based on them not trying Gates at center. It's possible they just weren't that impressed with either of them.


Matt -- I think this is true; and while it's true that Gates was a fighter, he could not hold up for an entire game all season. Feliciano was also having problems staying on the field. They just were what the Giants had last year.

There was nothing there with those two that can't be replaced in my opinion
Let's be honest  
upnyg : 3/20/2023 6:07 pm : link
none of the centers we had last year were good, long-term guys. They will get another vet and draft a player as well.
 
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2023 6:07 pm : link
I like Bredeson but this is starting to really feel like interior OL will be the weakness of the entire team, barring draft of course.
Names still out there  
Sky King : 3/20/2023 6:08 pm : link
Ben Jones, C, Titans (34)

Yet another player released by Tennessee, Jones has been one of the league’s better centers since entering the NFL in 2012. He turns 34 in July and missed five games in 2022, but he missed just one total through his first 10 seasons, and he remains an above-average player. He has allowed just two sacks over the last three seasons, according to TruMedia.

Daniel Brunskill, G/C, 49ers (29)

Coaches say Brunskill is one of the smartest players on the squad, and he’s capable of playing any of the five spots along the offensive line. He and rookie Spencer Burford alternated at right guard in 2024, and Brunskill also served as the team’s backup center. If Brendel was snapped up by another squad, the 49ers would push to retain Brunskill and probably would play him at center.
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Can we trade Leonard Williams  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2023 6:11 pm : link
for a first round bust at Center that will then injure another one of our OL because he was badly beaten?
 
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2023 6:11 pm : link
Brunskill signed with Tennessee
I think the Giants theory for some time now  
David B. : 3/20/2023 6:11 pm : link
Has been get OGs and train them to play both OG and OC. (Rather than drafting pure OCs who can only play one position).

There was no one even GOOD at OG or OC last year. If you really want to upgrade the interior OL, you let Gates and Feliciano go, and don't worry about it at all. Clearly the Giants aren't worried. Maybe it's Brederson for now. But they could still do more work there before the season.
I think we know enough to say  
JonC : 3/20/2023 6:12 pm : link
it's time to look forward for solutions rather than in the past. They drafted three OL a year ago, hopefully Ez is ready to win a starting job and Neal shows growth with his mental game, feet, etc. Got to find a OC even if it's a stop gap improvement so they can draft and/or develop one.
One more: John Michael Schmitz  
Sky King : 3/20/2023 6:14 pm : link
[quote]John Michael Schmitz is an outstanding pro prospect - his technique is generally impressive, while his strength and overall power are outstanding for the position. As a run blocker, he is elite and for a run-heavy NFL team, he could quickly develop into a pro bowl level player. In pass protection he is good but his production doesn't match that of his run blocking, which may limit his draft demand.

Expect Schmitz to be a first-round selection - and well worth one- in the 2023 NFL Draft and be either the first or second center to come off the board. [/qute]
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Draft  
WillVAB : 3/20/2023 6:14 pm : link
They can find a quality C prospect in the middle rounds this year.
Have no idea how the Giants are thinking here  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/20/2023 6:15 pm : link
But they have 3 guys in house who supposedly could project to OC in Ezeudu,Bredeson and Lemieux. Bredeson actually seemed to play well at the position too.

Feliciano in my opinion was simply not a high level starter and Bredeson from what eyes saw with some more practice would be better.
Ezeudu at Center?  
Dang Man : 3/20/2023 6:19 pm : link
Am I making this up or did Ezeudu take snaps at center last preseason? Maybe that’s the answer as finding an OG with experience may be easier than a center at this stage.
RE: Names still out there  
loafin : 3/20/2023 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16071097 Sky King said:
Ben Jones had two concussions and was place on IR in December after the 2nd one. He was also release from the Titans after failing his physical. Great player but maybe he is stil in the concussion protocol?



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Ben Jones, C, Titans (34)

Yet another player released by Tennessee, Jones has been one of the league’s better centers since entering the NFL in 2012. He turns 34 in July and missed five games in 2022, but he missed just one total through his first 10 seasons, and he remains an above-average player. He has allowed just two sacks over the last three seasons, according to TruMedia.

Daniel Brunskill, G/C, 49ers (29)

Coaches say Brunskill is one of the smartest players on the squad, and he’s capable of playing any of the five spots along the offensive line. He and rookie Spencer Burford alternated at right guard in 2024, and Brunskill also served as the team’s backup center. If Brendel was snapped up by another squad, the 49ers would push to retain Brunskill and probably would play him at center. Link - ( New Window )
So you're saying we need someone tough smart & dependable  
Semipro Lineman : 3/20/2023 6:21 pm : link


I'm pretty sure that Justin Pugh can easily be converted to center and never forget; Once a Giant - Always a Giant
Like I've been saying  
Spider43 : 3/20/2023 6:24 pm : link
Leaning more and more towards OL at # 25. Schmitz is looking like that guy. I don't think we should dick around by trading down for more value. Scuttlebutt is he's gone by early round two.
It tells me they don't want to settle  
xman : 3/20/2023 6:25 pm : link
for below average. Big aspirations
Interior OL was a problem last season  
RCPhoenix : 3/20/2023 6:27 pm : link
Feliciano was always a stopgap at best. Would have been decent for depth but at this point Bredeson - or McKethan - has more upside. As would a 2023 draft pick.
RE: Ezeudu at Center?  
Jay on the Island : 3/20/2023 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16071108 Dang Man said:
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Am I making this up or did Ezeudu take snaps at center last preseason? Maybe that’s the answer as finding an OG with experience may be easier than a center at this stage.

No, I think you are confusing him with Bredeson.
I  
AcidTest : 3/20/2023 6:30 pm : link
don't see Feliciano or Gates as big losses frankly. Thomas and Neal are the only irreplaceable OL right now. Everyone else is a journeyman or unproven.

I also don't think the Giants allowing Feliciano to leave says anything about how they feel about Lemieux. He's been injured a lot.

Good luck to Feliciano.
 
ryanmkeane : 3/20/2023 6:30 pm : link
Schmitz just turned 24. Not sure Schoen is going to love that.
RE: It tells me they don't want to settle  
fish3321 : 3/20/2023 6:30 pm : link
In comment 16071114 xman said:
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for below average. Big aspirations


xman do you know what we call below average O-lineman? Depth. We need that as well
RE: So you're saying we need someone tough smart & dependable  
eric2425ny : 3/20/2023 6:47 pm : link
In comment 16071111 Semipro Lineman said:
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I'm pretty sure that Justin Pugh can easily be converted to center and never forget; Once a Giant - Always a Giant


I hope your joking. 🦖 is not needed on this squad.
RE: I  
eric2425ny : 3/20/2023 6:49 pm : link
In comment 16071119 AcidTest said:
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don't see Feliciano or Gates as big losses frankly. Thomas and Neal are the only irreplaceable OL right now. Everyone else is a journeyman or unproven.

I also don't think the Giants allowing Feliciano to leave says anything about how they feel about Lemieux. He's been injured a lot.

Good luck to Feliciano.


Agreed, I would put Glowinski as one we probably don’t want to lose this year. From an interior line perspective they drafted Ezeudu and McKethan last year for a reason. Ezeudu will hopefully step up and man the LG spot. I’m sure they’ll draft at least 1-2 interior lineman at this point.
Addition...  
bw in dc : 3/20/2023 6:49 pm : link
by subtraction. Good riddance.

Didn't we got enough game reviews by Sy lambasting clowns like Feliciano for their incompetent play?
Jordan’s podcast that dropped today  
aimrocky : 3/20/2023 6:53 pm : link
Said Giants only interest in Gates was as a backup. They didn’t see him as a starting Center. He also said they had interest in Feliciano but it was as a 1 year vet stopgap but he also mentioned not to sleep on Bredeson at center.
Drafting a Center on Day 1 or 2  
Simms11 : 3/20/2023 6:54 pm : link
is now a must.....Giants could trade down in the first and get a very good OC and pick up another 2nd or 3rd round pick in the process. The Giants can still make a trade too, if there’s one to be made. Bredeson can play Center and seemed quite capable, albeit during pre-season, but could be a depth piece there.
RE: RE: I would not count out Bredeson  
Optimus-NY : 3/20/2023 6:55 pm : link
In comment 16071038 Anakim said:
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In comment 16071027 Jay on the Island said:


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At center.



Don't sleep on Pio


lol
RE: Drafting a Center on Day 1 or 2  
Jay on the Island : 3/20/2023 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16071136 Simms11 said:
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is now a must.....Giants could trade down in the first and get a very good OC and pick up another 2nd or 3rd round pick in the process. The Giants can still make a trade too, if there’s one to be made. Bredeson can play Center and seemed quite capable, albeit during pre-season, but could be a depth piece there.

We said the same thing 3 years ago. Everyone expected them to select a center early and then they surprised all of us by not drafting one. They liked Gates at center and hopefully this year they are convinced that Bredeson can be the guy. Even if he is I still hope that they draft one but I would prefer other positions selected in rounds 1 and 2.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/20/2023 6:59 pm : link
I don't think Feliciano was that good so I won't be losing sleep over this.
Despite all the evidence swirling there are still fans  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/20/2023 7:04 pm : link
Who insist this roster is anything close to win now with these sizeable holes.
Not losing sleep over him  
90.Cal : 3/20/2023 7:05 pm : link
But who TF is going to play center? And is Ezeudu just going to be penciled in at LG? I know everyone says we need a WR1 and we do but I think IOL and CB are our 2 biggest needs for 2023
I think  
Joe Beckwith : 3/20/2023 7:07 pm : link
He got upset at being re-signed before FA, or early on in FA, then with NG going to DC felt he could hold them hostage for a few more $$$, they still didn’t bite so he said goodbye.
What is whatshisname, our nondescript C during the DG years doing these days?
Seemed like a good guy but I’m glad we are moving on  
Rudy5757 : 3/20/2023 7:09 pm : link
His play was below average so we can easily find an equal replacement. Hopefully we find an upgrade. I really wanted them to go hard after a C in FA. Maybe they did. I think Bredeson can be as good as Feliciano at C maybe better.

Ezeudo is the starting G unless someone else steps up. If I were Lemieux I’d spend the off-season snapping.
Meanwhile  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/20/2023 7:13 pm : link
David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
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2h
Eagles are going to draft O'Cyrus Torrence in the first round and their OL is somehow going to be even better than it was in '22
RE: RE: RE: Feliciano  
Payasdaddy : 3/20/2023 7:13 pm : link
In comment 16071082 gidiefor said:
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In comment 16071074 fish3321 said:


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cheech- depth is exactly my point. It's one injury away from looking an awful lot like 2015-2021 Offensive line.



this is a slight over-reaction -- you have an all-pro left tackle and a presumably up and coming RT

from 2015-2021 there was no RT, and no guards

they have up an coming guard in Ezeudo and the reports are that McKethan is well-liked

The Giants will bring a center in. This group running the Giants is not amateur hour


I just don’t think mckethen was in camp more than a week before hurt
Not much of a sample size. Beavers looked decent but only a couple of weeks too
To me...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/20/2023 7:14 pm : link
... This move suggests that there is a plan.

Not having a plan would be to resign your guy and see what happens.

I like it.
RE: Like I've been saying  
Payasdaddy : 3/20/2023 7:15 pm : link
In comment 16071113 Spider43 said:
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Leaning more and more towards OL at # 25. Schmitz is looking like that guy. I don't think we should dick around by trading down for more value. Scuttlebutt is he's gone by early round two.


Don’t know if the value matches up at 25
We drafted for need with guys like Pugh and flowers
I only want to if the board matches the draft slot.
RE: Jordan’s podcast that dropped today  
Payasdaddy : 3/20/2023 7:16 pm : link
In comment 16071134 aimrocky said:
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Said Giants only interest in Gates was as a backup. They didn’t see him as a starting Center. He also said they had interest in Feliciano but it was as a 1 year vet stopgap but he also mentioned not to sleep on Bredeson at center.

Thought BB was effective as a OC
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