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bluefin : 3/20/2023 7:31 pm
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Let’s go Knicks
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Lol refs ignore a push off  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:01 pm : link
and then call a tech on the Knicks...maybe make the right call you a holes
The refs destroyed this game in the last few minutes  
dpinzow : 3/20/2023 10:02 pm : link
no wonder Randle went off on them
Same refs that have been scrutinized all year  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:02 pm : link
they missed the clear foul on Lebron as well
Only funny thing about this is James Dolan looking absolutely sick  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2023 10:03 pm : link
when the Knicks didn’t grab that rebound.
RE: The refs destroyed this game in the last few minutes  
Stu11 : 3/20/2023 10:04 pm : link
In comment 16071346 dpinzow said:
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no wonder Randle went off on them

Yeah Randle bitches way too much but that was completely understandable there. The refs handed them the game on that play. On an iso play completely out in the open that was a push-off
RE: RE: The refs destroyed this game in the last few minutes  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:05 pm : link
In comment 16071349 Stu11 said:
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In comment 16071346 dpinzow said:


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no wonder Randle went off on them


Yeah Randle bitches way too much but that was completely understandable there. The refs handed them the game on that play. On an iso play completely out in the open that was a push-off


He did it twice, he ran over Brunson a couple of plays before, clmpletely shoved Brunson to the ground
Hate a game like this before  
larryflower37 : 3/20/2023 10:06 pm : link
Miami.
This loss doesn't kill us come back and beat Miami and we are in control
Home losses to Charlotte and Minnesota now.  
bceagle05 : 3/20/2023 10:07 pm : link
Hope that doesn’t come back to haunt us.
Crazy game  
TyreeHelmet : 3/20/2023 10:09 pm : link
But that was such a clear offensive foul on McDaniels. Awful officiating.
They’ve only had 2 games like this in March…  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/20/2023 10:10 pm : link
both were home games that they inexplicably didn’t show up for (defensively) at home against bad teams.
MIN lit it up all night  
bluefin : 3/20/2023 10:11 pm : link
yet Knicks took it to the wire - a few months ago this would’ve been a blowout.
RE: Home losses to Charlotte and Minnesota now.  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:11 pm : link
In comment 16071353 bceagle05 said:
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Hope that doesn’t come back to haunt us.


Charlotte loss was different, they had nothing that game, Brunson hurt, Randle no legs..

This game was a team getting extremely hot from 3, Knicks played hard Twolves just wouldnt miss
I’ve tried to avoid complaining about the officials  
aimrocky : 3/20/2023 10:14 pm : link
But tonight was criminal.
plenty of blame to go around  
Enzo : 3/20/2023 10:16 pm : link
Brunson has to be better on defense, RJ had some poor decisions where he forced the issue (shocker), IQ had 2 bad fouls on 3 pt attempts and missed shots he normally makes, Mitch's bad hands hurt a couple of times, and Randle (despite being brilliant for much of the night) was completely nonchalant on that rebound he lost when we were down three. He's just way too casual during the biggest moments. Bad loss.
Knowing this team  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:16 pm : link
they will come out pissed off Wednesday and play better defense..

I also expect Miami to come out hard as well after losing twice to the Knicks already
It's my fault. I didn't start the game thread.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2023 10:18 pm : link
This one is on me. I still hate the defensive effort all game though.
RE: It's my fault. I didn't start the game thread.  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:20 pm : link
In comment 16071361 robbieballs2003 said:
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This one is on me. I still hate the defensive effort all game though.


No its not...just make sure to start wednesdays
for most of the second half  
Enzo : 3/20/2023 10:27 pm : link
the defensive effort appeared to be ok. Brunson had a rough night but his physical limitations are what they are. It does seem like our guards and wings are very eager to chase teams off the 3 pt line and have them drive towards Mitch. But it's not that hard for the other team to get an open 3 anyway off that with a drive and kick.
Dallas lost  
Enzo : 3/20/2023 10:29 pm : link
so there's that...
Man I love my Knicks  
Stu11 : 3/20/2023 10:30 pm : link
But no team I root for pisses me off more and it's not even close...
RE: Man I love my Knicks  
nygiants16 : 3/20/2023 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16071366 Stu11 said:
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But no team I root for pisses me off more and it's not even close...


You know what that means? their fricken good, they got you caring about every game
RE: Dallas lost  
robbieballs2003 : 3/20/2023 10:50 pm : link
In comment 16071365 Enzo said:
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so there's that...


Along with the Minnesota win, Dallas is now half a game away from the 8th seed. Dallas is 7 and Minnesota is 8. The best situation is for Dallas to finish 9 or 10 so they get bounced after 1 loss as opposed to 2.
Welp last night sucked BUT with 9 games left  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 8:34 am : link
Knicks are up 2 games against the Nets, and Knicks currently own the tiebreaker because of conference record. They play Cavs twice this week both at home. I could see a split there but Nets have lost 3 in a row i believe. Then they go play the Heat in Miami which helps the Knicks because someone will lose.

Knicks are up 3 on the Heat and still have 2 games left against Miami BUT i belive the Knicks have clinched the tiebreaker against them because the Knicks conference record is so much better.

Knkcks play at Miami on Wednesday and i expect Miami to come out fast, you know they arent happy losing twice to the Knicks already.

I expect this Knicks team to come out better defensively, you know they werent happy and this is a team that has bounced back all year.

I exoect Brunson to have a big game he called himself out last night and i expect him to redeem himself.

It will be a physical, slow paced game, typical Heat vs Knicks game with a 50/50 crowd
This was a strange game  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/21/2023 9:00 am : link
Not that the Knicks D was great by any stretch but Minny was playing out of their minds offensively considering the players they were missing. Everything they shot was going in for long stretches of the game. I mean everything.

Sometimes a team just has this absolutely incredible night offensively and that was what happened yesterday I think. I imagine was their highest shooting percentage for a game all year. And we still kept up and even led for a bit before cooling at the end.
RE: This was a strange game  
Stu11 : 3/21/2023 9:05 am : link
In comment 16071485 CornerStone246+17 said:
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Not that the Knicks D was great by any stretch but Minny was playing out of their minds offensively considering the players they were missing. Everything they shot was going in for long stretches of the game. I mean everything.

Sometimes a team just has this absolutely incredible night offensively and that was what happened yesterday I think. I imagine was their highest shooting percentage for a game all year. And we still kept up and even led for a bit before cooling at the end.

Minnesota literally never went cold. Even when they blew the 17 point lead it wasn't because they were missing shots its because Randle went all video game mode. If Randle doesn't have a career night we lose that by 20 easy and it would have been easier to shake off. When a team shoots 61% overall and 58 from 3 that's not a game you're usually in.
RE: RE: This was a strange game  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/21/2023 9:15 am : link
In comment 16071488 Stu11 said:
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Not that the Knicks D was great by any stretch but Minny was playing out of their minds offensively considering the players they were missing. Everything they shot was going in for long stretches of the game. I mean everything.

Sometimes a team just has this absolutely incredible night offensively and that was what happened yesterday I think. I imagine was their highest shooting percentage for a game all year. And we still kept up and even led for a bit before cooling at the end.


Minnesota literally never went cold. Even when they blew the 17 point lead it wasn't because they were missing shots its because Randle went all video game mode. If Randle doesn't have a career night we lose that by 20 easy and it would have been easier to shake off. When a team shoots 61% overall and 58 from 3 that's not a game you're usually in.


Lol.

Your video game anology is appropriate.

That game was like a video game on rookie mode.
RE: Get Toppin out  
Justlurking : 3/21/2023 9:50 am : link
In comment 16071316 nygiants16 said:
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talking to the crowd and smiling...maybe play a little defense and you would play more


He stinks. What a terrible pick
RE: RE: Get Toppin out  
Stu11 : 3/21/2023 9:56 am : link
In comment 16071529 Justlurking said:
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talking to the crowd and smiling...maybe play a little defense and you would play more



He stinks. What a terrible pick

Frank '17, Knox'18 and Obi '20. 3 top 10 picks completely botched. like completely. You could literally blindfold a 5 year old and play pin the tail on the donkey and come up with better picks.
Obi is  
Enzo : 3/21/2023 10:00 am : link
being used primarily as a spot up 3 point shooter which is ridiculous. 60% (!) of his shots this year have been from 3.
He has the physical skills to be the best in-game dunker we've had since Amare. Yet they hardly ever never use him in the pick and roll.
RE: Obi is  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 10:02 am : link
In comment 16071535 Enzo said:
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being used primarily as a spot up 3 point shooter which is ridiculous. 60% (!) of his shots this year have been from 3.
He has the physical skills to be the best in-game dunker we've had since Amare. Yet they hardly ever never use him in the pick and roll.


I think with Randle playing 35 minutes a night, Obi will never succeed here but he has been awful, yes they can use him in pick and rols more but his defense has been crap as well and where are the run outs? he used to get 6 to 8 points just on run outs..

I think he will be gone in the offseason and they areally need to bring in a 3 and d guy who can play the 3 or 4 for 15 to 20 minutes a night
RE: RE: RE: Get Toppin out  
Enzo : 3/21/2023 10:05 am : link
In comment 16071532 Stu11 said:
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In comment 16071316 nygiants16 said:


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talking to the crowd and smiling...maybe play a little defense and you would play more



He stinks. What a terrible pick


Frank '17, Knox'18 and Obi '20. 3 top 10 picks completely botched. like completely. You could literally blindfold a 5 year old and play pin the tail on the donkey and come up with better picks.

drafting in the back half of the lottery can get dicey, but these picks were questionable in the moment as well. The Knox pick especially looks rough as that looks to have been a loaded draft. There was like 20 players taken after him who are all clearly better. Why does Scott Perry still have a job?
Multiple stars are going to be traded this offseason  
CornerStone246+17 : 3/21/2023 10:09 am : link
At least that what the rumors make you think is going to happen.

Knicks are in prime position. Multiple FRPs and young tradeable assets.

Hart and Quickley probably stay.

RJ, Obi most tradeable then Grimes and McBride.

Fournier as cap filler.

We are lined up real well especially if a high efficiency 2 way player at the 2,3 or 5 spot shakes loose. Embiid and Brown are the top 2 I can think of at the moment. Either one puts us firmly in the championship contender conversation.
RE: Multiple stars are going to be traded this offseason  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 10:17 am : link
In comment 16071542 CornerStone246+17 said:
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At least that what the rumors make you think is going to happen.

Knicks are in prime position. Multiple FRPs and young tradeable assets.

Hart and Quickley probably stay.

RJ, Obi most tradeable then Grimes and McBride.

Fournier as cap filler.

We are lined up real well especially if a high efficiency 2 way player at the 2,3 or 5 spot shakes loose. Embiid and Brown are the top 2 I can think of at the moment. Either one puts us firmly in the championship contender conversation.


Seems like this is the offseason that is set up to put the finishing touches on this team and you know the tean for the next few years
who's getting traded  
Enzo : 3/21/2023 10:20 am : link
this offseason? I'd love to know!
RE: who's getting traded  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 10:38 am : link
In comment 16071556 Enzo said:
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this offseason? I'd love to know!


Embiid is the big one to watch..

Guys like KP, Beal, Paul George could all become available..

I also think there is an avenue to become a contender by adding good pieces that are better fits rsther than the "star"
Dame's been doing some complaining lately  
bceagle05 : 3/21/2023 6:07 pm : link
about the "rebuild" talk in Portland.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/21/2023 6:50 pm : link
Wolves needed that game a helluva lot more than we did. Barring someone collapse or us collapsing, it looks like we're locked into a first round matchup vs. Donovan & the Cavs. That'll be fun.
RE: Dame's been doing some complaining lately  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 6:54 pm : link
In comment 16072056 bceagle05 said:
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about the "rebuild" talk in Portland.


Dame and Brunson work? Knicks probably would have to score 150 a night
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/21/2023 6:58 pm : link
The Blazers are waving the white flag in hopes of getting decent odds to land The Frenchman.

As for Dame, I'll believe he wants out of Portland when he actually says it.
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16072120 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The Blazers are waving the white flag in hopes of getting decent odds to land The Frenchman.

As for Dame, I'll believe he wants out of Portland when he actually says it.


Ive been told he wont ask out..he ha smade so many comments about not teaming up and things like that that he feels he cant ask out now
nygiants16.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/21/2023 7:03 pm : link
Yeah, him & Beal both are committed to franchises going nowhere quick. I think it is somewhat admirable not to go ring chasing.
RE: nygiants16.  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 7:06 pm : link
In comment 16072125 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Yeah, him & Beal both are committed to franchises going nowhere quick. I think it is somewhat admirable not to go ring chasing.


i think its stupid from both parties to be honest. Both Portland and Washington are dumb, both teams need a reboot, they can get a lot for both Lillard and Beal..

as for Lillard and Beal, i get it they are haply where they are and they got a ton of money for doing it but i dont get how they are hally at this point in their careers with no chsnce to win
nygiants16.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/21/2023 7:12 pm : link
I still can't believe the Wiz gave Beal a no trade clause. Haha. A horribly run franchise.
Should  
mitch300 : 3/21/2023 7:17 pm : link
We be rooting for the Nets or Cavs tonight.
RE: Should  
nygiants16 : 3/21/2023 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16072143 mitch300 said:
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We be rooting for the Nets or Cavs tonight.


i am rooting for Cavs but i dont think you can go wrong with either, i dont think Knicks will catch Cleveland their schedule is suoer easy..

and the more losses by the Nets solidifies the Knicks position more...
Good  
mitch300 : 3/21/2023 7:25 pm : link
Point.
RE: nygiants16.  
Enzo : 3/21/2023 7:34 pm : link
In comment 16072136 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I still can't believe the Wiz gave Beal a no trade clause. Haha. A horribly run franchise.

But he made 3rd team all NBA one time! Not sure if Phil giving Melo a no trade was worse. Probably was.
Yeah definitely the Cavs.  
bceagle05 : 3/21/2023 7:42 pm : link
Nets are still breathing down our neck.
Aaaand the Cavs win.  
bceagle05 : 3/21/2023 9:57 pm : link
I know it’s beating a dead horse, but I hope we knew what we were doing with Donovan Mitchell.
Big game tonight  
nygiants16 : 3/22/2023 10:02 am : link
not the end of the world if they lose this game since they still have another game at hom against the Heat next week, bit would be nice to ease the pressure and win this one..

Big game for Rj, Grimes, Quick and Hart, They should be able to take advantage of their matchups. I assum Bam on Randle and Brunson on Butler, the others habe to step up..

Rj should be able to have a free rim with Bam guarding Randle..Love would be the only big protecting the rim and well that should be an easy finish..Rj needs to continue to attack especially with Herro on him. If the help comes kick out to the open man, if Bam helps kick out to Randle...

This is a game for the roleplayers to step up
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