Do you think that Campbell, Slayton and Hodgins as our 1,2 and 3 receivers are a good enough starting receiving crew to go into this season with? I’d
say yes when taking Waller into consideration and assuming Bellinger being better in year 2. Sequan out of the backfield and Jones as a passing and running threat adds up to the team having enough speed at the skill positions to spread out defenses and cause trouble. Ideally, finding a stud #1 would be optimal. I just don’t know where to find him.
Although, I find Xavier Smith interesting.
I think the draft will be about interior offensive lineman and new defensive backfield help. After losing Feliciano it’s almost a slam dunk we are taking the best available center in the first or second.
But does the speed alone of Parris, Darius and Isiah for now make our
front line receivers enough going into this season?
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In comment 16071565 ryanmkeane said:
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Darius Slayton is more like a 3rd or 4th receiver, and he has had a significantly better career than Parris Campbell.
Ry I am 100% with you in wanting a more proven WR1 . No doubt. However Parris issue has not been talent it's been health. Last year was his first full season but in a terrible situation. This is the kind of receiver Daboll knows how to use. Im not predicting 1200 yds for him or anything like that but he does have some upside if he can stay healthy or having an 800-900 yd season and being a strong complement to Waller, Slayton and Hodgins. Again that is probably ceiling with the floor him being out most of the year with another injury lol. I agree he is likely not a high level WR1 but he does have a pretty strong WR2 ceiling of things fall into place for him.
The more I watch Campbell, the more I like him. To me, at worst he is an upgrade over Richie James. He may not be a #1 (there's an ever shrinking list of guys I'd consider true 1s anyway). I think he can absolutely push any of the current WRs for targets from Jones(Hodgins and Slayton). Campbell can play...just has to avoid the injury bug(like the rest of the team for the past 5 years)
Absolutely. And Wan'Dale and Shep coming off ACLs may not have their full explosion quite yet even if they can play.
This is not a disastrous unit anymore but it still needs help. That holds even more true longterm as the only WR we have committed to beyond 2024 is Wan'Dale. The biggest thing the WR/TE UFA moves accomplished was to remove the desperate urgency at the position, that doesn't change it from being one of our biggest needs though.
And suddenly our savior. Guys a 3 at best
But in general a good lunch pail group is ok with me. Slayton, Barkley,Waller,Bellinger all can make chunk yd plays. Maybe we get to add Robinson the list.
Anyway, the Giants have a lot of guys who have gotten injured a lot, and you hope a couple of them stay healthy, but who really is the guy that scares a defensive coordinator? Who is the guy that you need to account for deep, and probably need to give a corner safety help for?
Because if you think that's Slayton...just being fast doesn't do it. IMO someone needs to emerge/improve, and absent of that, we still need a guy. Love Waller, but again, he'll be 31 and has missed a lot of games last couple of seasons. need a real #1 at WR.
Hodgins is a nice story but he’s a 3 at best. Slayton is a great 3 or 4 and below average 1 or 2. Shepherd was probably signed as a courtesy. Robinson tore his ACL if he comes back he will be limited next year. Collin Johnson looked ok last summer but is he a Good Wr? He’s got 29 receptions and was a 5th rounder.
I do like the gamble on Waller but we’ve been down the road before of gambling on a big time TE and it hasn’t worked. Maybe the 3rd times the charm. I hope so.
The Giants better come out of the draft with 2 Wr prospects at least. 1 on the 1st 3 rounds and 1 later. It’s a bad group.
Hey, thats HUUUGE for a guy like me. Also compared to Wandale and SS thats ginormous. And don't sell him short; He's six ONE on BBI's Roster page;)
BB- he's not our saviour but an upgrade to a pool of middling receivers; I'm not kidding myself. If they gradually increase the talent levels at each group I think that may work better financially instead of going all in and grabbing the costliest talent and having that one pick up not pan out(see Golladay, Solder etc)
He is a JAG fellas. BBI over here with some saying he has #1 upside.
Slayton isn’t a 1 and he has had a significantly better career.
Giants still have a below average WR group. I fully expect 25 to be a WR if we don’t make a trade. JS added some low end depth pieces to fill out depth chart and to also make people think we could go a diff direction at 25. I fully expect a WR to be called at 25 as long as value matches up (flowers, Addison, Johnston, jsn)
So glad you have zero to do with any player evaluations.
Is he in the category Jefferson,chase, and whatever other top wr no of course not they can go to any team and make them better. But that’s not the case here, his skill set are what daboll and Kafka wants and needs for this offense. If he stays healthy he could put up numbers that aren’t far off from the top guys.
Do we still need a 1? I believe so. His floor is a solid 2 to say he’s a 3-6 at best is laughable at best
Health and many aren't signed beyond 2023. We are almost definitely going top 2 rounds for a WR.
Anyway, the Giants have a lot of guys who have gotten injured a lot, and you hope a couple of them stay healthy, but who really is the guy that scares a defensive coordinator? Who is the guy that you need to account for deep, and probably need to give a corner safety help for?
Because if you think that's Slayton...just being fast doesn't do it. IMO someone needs to emerge/improve, and absent of that, we still need a guy. Love Waller, but again, he'll be 31 and has missed a lot of games last couple of seasons. need a real #1 at WR.
Jim, thanks for the lesson on “corps”, clears that one up for me.
Here’s another for you, wondering if it’s a regional thing: Which is the more grammatically correct word to follow “try”? Is it Try and fix the OL? Or Try to fix the OL? Thanks in advance.
Without any money to bring in receivers last year, they implemented an rpo to take some of the attention off Barkley, but without speed outside defenses stacked the box and everything got harder as the season progressed. Seems to me that Campbell and Slayton will stretch and widen the field. Whether or not they become 1s or 2s stats wise, their presence will open things up for the run game and for whoever the underneath receivers will be. And when they do catch the ball, greater likelihood of yards after the catch and big plays. Should be more exciting than 5 yd hooks.
I expect they’ll add a WR day 1 or 2 to mix in behind these three at first, but become a centerpiece later on or next season. Doubt they’ll give up draft capital that can yield cost controlled players for 4-5 years. Just my guess.