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stupid NFL vs other worker tax question.

fkap : 3/23/2023 8:27 am
So, apparently NFL players pay income taxes in each of the states they play games in.

IF I go on an out of state work trip, am I supposed to file in that state? I've never heard of such a thing. Do the coaches/NFL staff? IF the answer to either is no, why are various workers treated differently?
It varies from state-to-state  
Ben in Tampa : 3/23/2023 8:33 am : link
but yes, you could be liable to pay taxes in states you've worked in other than your permanent residence
Yes, you may be liable  
section125 : 3/23/2023 8:35 am : link
for taxes per diem in other states. But it is also a deduction against your home state...IIRC
U.S. tax code  
PEEJ : 3/23/2023 8:37 am : link
is an abomination
This isn’t exclusive to the NFL  
UConn4523 : 3/23/2023 8:39 am : link
Sec_149 : 3/23/2023 8:43 am : link
As others have said, that is the way it is.
I have a neighbor who is high up in one of the big accounting firms. Has accounts all over the country. A few years ago told me they had to file state tax returns in 6 states.

The tax code is an absolute mess.
RE: U.S. tax code  
Giantsfan79 : 3/23/2023 8:44 am : link
In comment 16073260 PEEJ said:
is an abomination

They've got to get work to all those accountants somehow
Yes, this happened to my son  
ZogZerg : 3/23/2023 8:45 am : link
When he came home for a month and teleworked.

They took MD taxes out for the month he was home.
RE: U.S. tax code  
Pepe LePugh : 3/23/2023 8:47 am : link
In comment 16073260 PEEJ said:
is an abomination

True enough, but this issue is about state taxes. City tax as well I imagine.
Route 9 : 3/23/2023 8:49 am : link
Yeah. I worked with a guy in Atlantic City who worked shows in different states and had to file in each of those states he worked in lol

I'm 98% sure that's what he told me.
RE: U.S. tax code  
christian : 3/23/2023 8:51 am : link
In comment 16073260 PEEJ said:
is an abomination

These are state-by-state requirements.
I think the difference  
leatherneck570 : 3/23/2023 8:53 am : link
Is that some states have a time threshold for instance they won’t expect you to pay taxes if you only worked a day or 2 in that state. Athletes and performers don’t have to meet that threshold.
It depends. I telework from CT. My home office is located in NY  
Heisenberg : 3/23/2023 8:55 am : link
NY considers all of my w2 income as theirs to tax. I get credit on my CT taxes for the taxes I pay in NY, but NY considers all my income as NY taxable income, despite the fact that I go to the office maybe 15 days a year.
It depends on what kind of work you do  
BillT : 3/23/2023 8:57 am : link
Ne, you don’t have to pay if you are on a business trip. On the other hand, yes you may have to pay if you are, for instance, doing consulting work. I’ve done tax returns with 8 state returns. States have the right to tax revenue generated in that state. Where you work is the first priority for taxation of income. So the answer is, it depends on what you do and where you do it.
Here’s a good article  
leatherneck570 : 3/23/2023 8:59 am : link
That explains it a little better.
Link - ( New Window )
Look at it this way  
eli4life : 3/23/2023 9:04 am : link
Your probably not gonna make enough for it to really matter unlike the nfl
I used to travel  
pjcas18 : 3/23/2023 9:13 am : link
a lot for work and one year after a lot of travel between MA and NY my company sent me a notice in January and said I need to file NY state tax for the amount of time I worked in NY.

I believe it is based on if you work more than 30 days (or something like that) in NY you need to file state income tax there and they based it on my expense reports. Such a pain in the ass, because then MA tax return gets prorated too.

Many states are like this I guess. I'm surprised the NFL has to do it for away games.

I could see it for a player on the Giants who lives in NY since they work in NJ, but not for example Giants players having to file PA state income tax (if there is one) for that one game they play against the Eagles.

Route 9 : 3/23/2023 9:27 am : link
Holy shit do they take a long time to put the tax return in your account or what?
The rules vary by state  
k2tampa : 3/23/2023 9:27 am : link
19 states require you to pay taxes if you work just one day in the state, including 10 that are home to 14 NFL teams. Nine states have no state tax and are home to 8 NFL teams.

If you are an NFL player you can save a lot of money if your team's schedule includes stops in Miami, Jax, Tampa Bay, Tennessee, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas and Seattle in one season. Or the jackpot is to play for one of those teams and visit the other 7 cities. Theoretically, you could have 16 untaxed games (though that is pretty unlikely).

If you live in Hoboken, NJ and commute to Manhattan to work  
Marty in Albany : 3/23/2023 9:35 am : link
You will file a NJ resident return and NY State and NY City non-resident returns. And you better file, because your Manhattan employer will be witholding New York taxes from your paycheck.

The NY State Tax Dept used to have a special audit group that looks at the NYS income taxes of professional athletes (NFL MLB NHL, etc.) who spend time or compete in New York. This was true many years ago. I don't know if it is still true.
A different question  
gersh : 3/23/2023 9:42 am : link
Why doesn’t the NFL adjust the cap to include whether a team is in a state with income tax?
NY is one of the worst.  
Kevin999 : 3/23/2023 10:02 am : link
perhaps this has changed over the years, but I know in the past if you worked in NY, they considered all of your income fair game. A friend of mine lived in CT but worked in NY. He had to pay taxes to NY for capital gains from stock sales etc!
I automatically get taxed  
Darth Paul : 3/23/2023 10:10 am : link
for PA and the PA County my office is in. I also automatically get taxed by Jersey, because I live in SJ. Fortunately, there is an agreement and I get a refund for the PA tax, from Jersey, for the double tax. I have never had to pay tax when travelling to our other locations for work.
RE: A different question  
k2tampa : 3/23/2023 1:16 pm : link
In comment 16073316 gersh said:
Why doesn’t the NFL adjust the cap to include whether a team is in a state with income tax?

Even if they would consider this it would be nearly impossible because it would depend on the team's away schedule too. And the rules can vary by the number of days you actually reside in a state.
SomeFan : 3/23/2023 1:57 pm : link
In general, states subject you to income tax if you perform services or work in the state. If you are employed and your employer is on the ball, they will withhold state taxes outside your home state if you are working outside your home state for more than a de minimis amount of time.

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