There is no long term commitment to any of these players. Even Daniel Jones is essentially on a 2-year deal. If this team takes a step back and then fails to advance deep into the payoffs in 23 and 24, I expect they will start over with AT and the Schoen/Daboll draft selections.
It seems to me Schoen and Daboll have some assurance from ownership that if this win-now window doesn't work out, they will be able to stay in their positions and oversee a rebuild.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
These low risk deals allow you to compete while building through the draft. And if a few of them hit and earn longer deals awesome.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
That's exactly it. In the past, we covered up mistakes in the draft with rich, back-loaded deals offered to top-tier FA mercenaries which ultimately killed our cap situation.
While we acquire more talent through the draft, we are picking up other pieces at or below market value and retaining some of our own key pieces, to the extent we can, with somewhat limited cap space. We haven't made any splashy FA acquisitons except for, arguably, Okereke. And that's just one player at a non-premium position.
I don't see that as a "win now"/"go for broke" approach. It's more out of necessity
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
^This.
in the time after the 2 splash moves, the "luxury" signings they've made seem more about upside than anything else (cambell and slayton specifically).
they haven't yet punted that much money to the future, which they could have done if they wanted to really go more aggressively at someone like Hopkins in addition to Waller.
they are continuing to build a roster to be competitive now without compromising future flexibility. a lot like the jones contract they have put significant investment into quality players in their mid-20's with distinct upside. okereke, campbell, barkley, slayton all fit that. but also with outs where things can be wiped clean in 2 years if they need to.
agree with this statement but would also add that they seem to be emphasizing upside players too.
they could have signed a safer player than campbell. or a safer player than slayton (like love). or one of the other LB's half the price of Okereke and then had that player + love. or signed schultz/gesicki instead of trading for waller. but there seems to be an emphasis on upside.
Not that there's anything wrong with signing a 26 year old stud in FA, but I love the Waller trade as this type of move is exactly the kind of move I have been screaming for here. Just because he's 30 doesn't mean he's done. Just because someone is 26 doesn't guarantee a fucking thing.
He has a value and he is very disciplined and will not overpay.
In addition he is signing young players not established veterans who are the downside of their careers.
It is interesting that he likes to create competition at multiple positions by obtaining underachievers who have physical attributes. He relies on the coaching staff to get the best out of the players.
He is taking a long view towards building the team.
This is still the second year in the rebuild and I hope that we continue to show improvement.
They are trying to be as competitive as possible as they move forward; just like last season.
They are just trying to add better football players Signing Daniel with a two year out was just good business. If he continues to play well he will be here beyond that
Totally disagree that this is a two year championship window.
in the time after the 2 splash moves, the "luxury" signings they've made seem more about upside than anything else (cambell and slayton specifically).
they haven't yet punted that much money to the future, which they could have done if they wanted to really go more aggressively at someone like Hopkins in addition to Waller.
they are continuing to build a roster to be competitive now without compromising future flexibility. a lot like the jones contract they have put significant investment into quality players in their mid-20's with distinct upside. okereke, campbell, barkley, slayton all fit that. but also with outs where things can be wiped clean in 2 years if they need to.
Wow, good points.
Not that there's anything wrong with signing a 26 year old stud in FA, but I love the Waller trade as this type of move is exactly the kind of move I have been screaming for here. Just because he's 30 doesn't mean he's done. Just because someone is 26 doesn't guarantee a fucking thing.
This. Schoen is building for long-term success. Obtaining core players through the draft and re-signing core players to longer term deals (Jones, while hedging with that contract), Lawrence and Thomas to come soon, etc. But he is also signing some win now guys obviously. This is smart. He isn’t desperately signing this market’s Golladay (best FA WR in a bad crop) to a cap breaking deal. So while yes he is trying to win now, he is doing it in concert with his vision to create long-term success. He is not trying to win now at the expense of the future. I don’t see a problem with it. It’s a smart way to run an organization.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
He’s building a roster to match or exceed the 2023 opponents talent level to match or exceed the 2022 record. Whoever sticks after that, good. In the meantime we have a draft to build for the now and future, and win a SB.
Really only see Center as an unaddressed weakness and would imagine a VSB type there pre draft but also dont know how the staff feels about covering C with one of the pile of Guards on the roster.
There are plenty of spots that need to have more talent added but the "holes" are being filled.
It is this type of observation that makes BBI worth reading daily.
They are trying to be as competitive as possible as they move forward; just like last season.
They are just trying to add better football players Signing Daniel with a two year out was just good business. If he continues to play well he will be here beyond that
Totally disagree that this is a two year championship window.
I think Producer, I mean BeggarsBanquet, is still hoping Jones isn't here long term.
LOL right..
Yes he filled some glaring holes, but FA was been mostly low risk and relatively moderate cost moves.
You could also look like it that in 2 years if any of these players hit with all 5he 1 yr deals there is a potential comp picks haul waiting.
in the time after the 2 splash moves, the "luxury" signings they've made seem more about upside than anything else (cambell and slayton specifically).
they haven't yet punted that much money to the future, which they could have done if they wanted to really go more aggressively at someone like Hopkins in addition to Waller.
they are continuing to build a roster to be competitive now without compromising future flexibility. a lot like the jones contract they have put significant investment into quality players in their mid-20's with distinct upside. okereke, campbell, barkley, slayton all fit that. but also with outs where things can be wiped clean in 2 years if they need to.
Upside? These guys have all been around 4 years or more. Upside, shouldn't enter into the conversation with these guys. Okereke was a great addition and as long as he maoitains his recent level of play, I'll be happy. You know what you have in Slayton. Campbell was a decent addition but he's not turning into a superstar. Barkely has seen his best days.