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NYG meeting with WRs, but the lack of OL signings sticks out

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/24/2023 9:54 am
The prevailing opinion seems to be that the Giants will target a WR early, and this is supported by the team meeting with high-profile WR prospects.

Also, other than Okereke and Waller, none of the new players have big contracts so it's important not to read too much into the other signings.

That said, the Giants have added DL, LB, CB, S, WR, and TE in free agency/trade.

They have protected or re-signed QB, RB, WR, LB, P, LS in free agency.

Note what position is missing?

In addition, they let their only two UFA offensive linemen walk.

There are three ways to read into this:

(1) They didn't like what is out there and are waiting to see who shakes free and/or prices to come down.

(2) They aren't as worried about what they have as others (this makes Giants fans nervous because of Reese/Gettleman).

(3) They are going to target OL again in the draft (they drafted three OLs last year).
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They brought in that former Steelers Center for a visit  
Rjanyg : 3/24/2023 11:06 am : link
and didn't sign him.

I think they have a guy in the draft they really like. I would expect a OC picked by the 4th round latest.

I also think they feel that Bredeson could be the starter. They have a bunch of guys under contract so you know how it works, start your best 5. That leaves 9 reserves.

We have our tackles and our right guard. Bredeson and Ezudu will be left guard and center until otherwise informed.
I think ALL THREE are true.  
Dinger : 3/24/2023 11:07 am : link
It doesn't mean they are right(see Gettleman and Reese, aka#2). Each FO has their own take. Hopefully, This one is at least a little better at finding and developing OL. I FEEL like they did better job of both this past year and for those pointing to Neal Feliciano and Glowinski as the case against my argument I understand. But I counter that it takes an OL a while to develop. We had a new regime with some new players. Some of them worse than others and made for sketchy performances for most. IF you look at what they did with the WR room, that is, take existing 'better players', re Shepard and Slayton, use them as the 'depth pieces then add from there, I believe they are doing that with the line now. They may feel that Bredeson with Ezeudu and Lemeiux(I can't even spell THEM correctly Eric), are on the same level as Gates and JF so why pay for the same talent. I think they will add either pre or post draft ONE IOL who they feel is an upgrade or same level but cheaper than the ones we lost. Draft I expect at least to OL picks and one if not both being able to play all positions.
RE: It is telling, but...  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/24/2023 11:07 am : link
section125 said:
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I haven't a clue as to what it is.

I think they will look for vets let go after the draft. I do think they like what they have (14 under contract is what Schoen said, IIRC?).

What is a little noteworthy is the center position. What is going on there?

Yup: fourteen under contract.
Thomas
Neal
Glowinski
Ezeudu
Bredeson
McKethan
Phillips
Lemieux
Peart
Hamilton
Cunningham
Anderson
Davis
Kindley

That's about the right proportion of the ninety man roster, once they add one or two in the Draft. Only the first four are true roster locks, assuming they make it to Week 1 without blowing out a knee. The next three seem likely to be on the team, though a better backup tackle that Phillips would be nice. Maybe Peart will step up, a full year removed from surgery. The last seven are mostly JAGs, so we'll probably see a lot of churn there, with particular attention to guys with experience at center.
RE: .....  
cosmicj : 3/24/2023 11:14 am : link
In comment 16074404 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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And I feel like the Chiefs are writing the book on how to win with a QB on a second contract.

Invest heavy in the oline to keep him upright, get a nasty TE, and then find your Jags/Value at WR.


Very interesting comment. In 2022, every WR on KC had a cap hit under $5mm and their total positional cap hit was $15mm, less than what Golladay took up just by himself.
RE: Relax everyone  
eli4life : 3/24/2023 11:15 am : link
In comment 16074412 Y28 said:
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I found the answer Link - ( New Window )


What would it hurt to bring him in on a cheap deal with incentives? Otherwise good for him for changing his life
1 of Schmitz, Wypler or Tippman  
Chris684 : 3/24/2023 11:17 am : link
Is going to be here, I think that’s fairly obvious.

Round 1 or 2 depending on how the draft plays out.
1+3  
DavidinBMNY : 3/24/2023 11:21 am : link
-I believe they know what they have on the roster, and they believe that both Gates and Feliciano were no real upgrade to what they have.
-If they don't draft an OL by the end of day 2 i would be more then mildly surprised (unless some move happens b4 the draft).
-Sometimes we make the problem harder then it is. Drafting a center at 25 is never going to get an A draft grade, but the ROI on that could be a 10 year center piece in front of your most valuable asset.

While I would be happy with any player they draft that improves the team right away, I'd be most happy with a Center. I think if value presents itself you can't turn down, you take it (Joey Porter Jr. won't be there - but if he is) and if that happens plan is draft a tackle who has good feet and is versatile and mold him to play IOL, which was Buffalo's MO.
RE: Neal will be fine  
Payasdaddy : 3/24/2023 11:22 am : link
In comment 16074473 JonC said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.


I heard Neal would fine fine as the yr progressed in 2022. He got worse.
Tools are there but I see a lot of balance / dealing with counter moves issues. I think he will improve but I can’t assume he will just be fine. Some of his play was too downright bad too.
Going from yr1 to yr2 will really help . Just having an offseason not to deal with combine, pro days, cramming playbook etc. just wind down for some, recalibrate and start working on your weakness. Same with ezuedu
They both have some nice traits. If they clean up better than 50% of what was lacking, oline could be better from in house solutions
I have no issue picking oline anywhere in first 3 rds
The stench from getting killed on LOS in Philly lingers.
1st round pick  
nochance : 3/24/2023 11:22 am : link
it depends who is there. If a reciever falls to them that they want they will go for him. Otherwise they could go with CB or IOL if a good value
They used a top 10 overall pick on OL last year  
UberAlias : 3/24/2023 11:24 am : link
plus a 3rd and a 5th. They'll continue to build through the draft.
RE: .....  
prdave73 : 3/24/2023 11:32 am : link
In comment 16074404 CoughlinHandsonHips said:
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And I feel like the Chiefs are writing the book on how to win with a QB on a second contract.

Invest heavy in the oline to keep him upright, get a nasty TE, and then find your Jags/Value at WR.


Agree 100%
RE: Neal will be fine  
barens : 3/24/2023 11:35 am : link
In comment 16074473 JonC said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.


Is balance something you can improve upon? Neal ended up on the ground way to often for my liking.
I assume  
Dankbeerman : 3/24/2023 11:36 am : link
a bargin Vet signing followed by another pair of mid rd picks on guys that have T/G vesatility like Ezudu and McKethan.

Feliciano was a G they tried to convert last year along with Bredeson. Gates was never counted on and not a pure C before that. So they didnt prioritize C at all last year. My guess is they will do more of the same and accumulate a lot of lineman who they can mold to what they need.
I don’t care what it is..  
prdave73 : 3/24/2023 11:41 am : link
They better fix the Oline quick. You didn’t invest all that money on Jones for him regress because the offensive line can’t block for shit. We have to remember, not only will it affect Daniel Jones, this will affect Barkley as well! I’m telling you this, if that Oline fails this season, this team will be in the bottom of league. We have seen enough proof that teams that have great Olines are the most successful.
Connor McGovern signed with buffalo  
bLiTz 2k : 3/24/2023 11:43 am : link
Last week, didn't he?

As far as I know there really aren't great names out there.
RE: I think ALL THREE are true.  
BillKo : 3/24/2023 11:45 am : link
In comment 16074491 Dinger said:
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It doesn't mean they are right(see Gettleman and Reese, aka#2). Each FO has their own take. Hopefully, This one is at least a little better at finding and developing OL. I FEEL like they did better job of both this past year and for those pointing to Neal Feliciano and Glowinski as the case against my argument I understand. But I counter that it takes an OL a while to develop. We had a new regime with some new players. Some of them worse than others and made for sketchy performances for most. IF you look at what they did with the WR room, that is, take existing 'better players', re Shepard and Slayton, use them as the 'depth pieces then add from there, I believe they are doing that with the line now. They may feel that Bredeson with Ezeudu and Lemeiux(I can't even spell THEM correctly Eric), are on the same level as Gates and JF so why pay for the same talent. I think they will add either pre or post draft ONE IOL who they feel is an upgrade or same level but cheaper than the ones we lost. Draft I expect at least to OL picks and one if not both being able to play all positions.


Totally agree...all three are true.

They're going PBA in round 1 most likely, and also drafting that way thru the draft. An interior guy will fit that descrption somewhere along the line.

Giants are created some depth and competition thru their FA signings and previous draft/signings.....now it's time to add more and find good football players.

RE: RE: Neal will be fine  
k2tampa : 3/24/2023 11:49 am : link
In comment 16074507 Payasdaddy said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.



I heard Neal would fine fine as the yr progressed in 2022. He got worse.
Tools are there but I see a lot of balance / dealing with counter moves issues. I think he will improve but I can’t assume he will just be fine. Some of his play was too downright bad too.
Going from yr1 to yr2 will really help . Just having an offseason not to deal with combine, pro days, cramming playbook etc. just wind down for some, recalibrate and start working on your weakness. Same with ezuedu
They both have some nice traits. If they clean up better than 50% of what was lacking, oline could be better from in house solutions
I have no issue picking oline anywhere in first 3 rds
The stench from getting killed on LOS in Philly lingers.


You and others are judging a guy, a rookie no less, without factoring in that he was hampered for 3/4s of the season by a knee injury. A knee injury is going to hamper lateral movement, which is pretty important for a tackle, right?
RE: RE: .....  
gameday555 : 3/24/2023 11:53 am : link
In comment 16074517 prdave73 said:
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And I feel like the Chiefs are writing the book on how to win with a QB on a second contract.

Invest heavy in the oline to keep him upright, get a nasty TE, and then find your Jags/Value at WR.




Agree 100%


Do have to factor in the Mahomes element. He is so singularly talented that he can take those JAGs and elevate them. Jones’ play is more dependent on the talent at his disposal, so I think we’d need to take more of a Philly approach. Build up the line but also invest heavily in offensive playmakers around QB.
RE: RE: RE: Neal will be fine  
Payasdaddy : 3/24/2023 11:56 am : link
In comment 16074536 k2tampa said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.



I heard Neal would fine fine as the yr progressed in 2022. He got worse.
Tools are there but I see a lot of balance / dealing with counter moves issues. I think he will improve but I can’t assume he will just be fine. Some of his play was too downright bad too.
Going from yr1 to yr2 will really help . Just having an offseason not to deal with combine, pro days, cramming playbook etc. just wind down for some, recalibrate and start working on your weakness. Same with ezuedu
They both have some nice traits. If they clean up better than 50% of what was lacking, oline could be better from in house solutions
I have no issue picking oline anywhere in first 3 rds
The stench from getting killed on LOS in Philly lingers.



You and others are judging a guy, a rookie no less, without factoring in that he was hampered for 3/4s of the season by a knee injury. A knee injury is going to hamper lateral movement, which is pretty important for a tackle, right?


Just going by what I saw. If it was because the knee, great for us.
But if knee was that bad, why was he out there.
1/2 the league plays game not at 100% every week. Damn right I am judging him. He is not getting a hall pass.
Like his attitude and think he will put in the work
But there was more to be desired than I would have expected from the 7th pick
I expected more of a destroyer, even at times. Didn’t see much of that.



RE: RE: RE: Neal will be fine  
Johnny5 : 3/24/2023 11:57 am : link
In comment 16074536 k2tampa said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.



I heard Neal would fine fine as the yr progressed in 2022. He got worse.
Tools are there but I see a lot of balance / dealing with counter moves issues. I think he will improve but I can’t assume he will just be fine. Some of his play was too downright bad too.
Going from yr1 to yr2 will really help . Just having an offseason not to deal with combine, pro days, cramming playbook etc. just wind down for some, recalibrate and start working on your weakness. Same with ezuedu
They both have some nice traits. If they clean up better than 50% of what was lacking, oline could be better from in house solutions
I have no issue picking oline anywhere in first 3 rds
The stench from getting killed on LOS in Philly lingers.



You and others are judging a guy, a rookie no less, without factoring in that he was hampered for 3/4s of the season by a knee injury. A knee injury is going to hamper lateral movement, which is pretty important for a tackle, right?

Agreed, the guy was only 21 years old and he was also dealing with an injury down the stretch. I am optimistically expecting improvement here.
I don't know about #1  
Dave on the UWS : 3/24/2023 12:02 pm : link
but I would bet you 2 bottles of scotch 2 and 3 are valid.
they have plenty of bodies now, what I'm sure Schoen wants is a couple of guys with high upsides. Center and Guard. He will see how the draft falls and then also look at the FA market AFTER the draft. This unit will NOT be a glaring weakness by camp.
I wouldn't worry about Neal, he was starting to get it when he hurt his knee. When he came back, it was NOT strong, plus he then had shoulder and I think elbow issues to deal with. His technique (which he was struggling to get), really went into the toilet after he came back.
I will be SHOCKED if he isn't markedly improved. agree with JonC on that.
They know what they have  
Joe Beckwith : 3/24/2023 12:03 pm : link
in OL, and have expectations of who they expect will improve.
That said, we all rightly expect a C, and I expect another versatile G ( including RT)to be added to the rebuild mix of much cost controlled youth with some vets to fill gaps and be on/ off field teachers.
All three  
Mike in Boston : 3/24/2023 12:05 pm : link
1) They don't like the available FA or they would have at least kicked tires a little harder.

2) They like the young guys they have--they obviously expect Neal to develop given where they drafted him, and probably think Ezeudu and some of the other guys we think of as depth have potential to start, and they certainly have enough of them to raise the odds.

3) I'd be surprised if they didn't draft a couple more OL.
RE: Connor McGovern signed with buffalo  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/24/2023 12:09 pm : link
bLiTz 2k said:
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Last week, didn't he?

There are two OL with the same name. Buffalo signed the Cowboys' Connor McGovern. The Jets' edition is probably a better option at center.
There are still several holes to fill so this is a BPA draft.  
Spider56 : 3/24/2023 12:13 pm : link
I think they go CB, C and DL with the first 3 picks and then WR and LB early on day 3. Would still like to see a trade for another day 2 guy.
RE: RE: Connor McGovern signed with buffalo  
bLiTz 2k : 3/24/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16074575 Big Blue Blogger said:
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bLiTz 2k said:

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Last week, didn't he?


There are two OL with the same name. Buffalo signed the Cowboys' Connor McGovern. The Jets' edition is probably a better option at center.


Ahh gotcha thanks for the clarification.
RE: ...  
GiantGrit : 3/24/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16074482 ryanmkeane said:
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NYG paid Jones big time money. If they expect him to continue the upward trajectory, interior OL has a lot to do with that, and relying on what they have and trying to develop mid round picks is great, but sometimes an exercise in futility.


Precisely why drafting what you project as an elite level center round 1 may not be exciting but a huge penicillin boost to this offense. Or round 2. I loved the Richburg pick, still bummed that one did not work out for us.
RE: Neal will be fine  
GiantGrit : 3/24/2023 12:15 pm : link
In comment 16074473 JonC said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.


To add, I think he has the mental makeup. Flowers in hindsight did not.
I think this means a couple of things  
Matt M. : 3/24/2023 12:17 pm : link
One, they are more comfortable with Ezeudu, McKethan, and Bredeson as a starting point on the interior than some here. Two, I would bet they are targeting a C in the first 3 rounds with the expectation that person will compete to start. Three, a lot of decent OL usually end up shaking free after June 1 every year.
RE: RE: Neal will be fine  
Payasdaddy : 3/24/2023 12:29 pm : link
In comment 16074519 barens said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.



Is balance something you can improve upon? Neal ended up on the ground way to often for my liking.


To be clear, not down on Neal. Just enough holes last yr to think this may not be an AT 2nd yr improvement. It doesn’t have to be AT level, but hopefully close. I hope it was injuries more than other issues. Obviously rooting for him it would help our oline a great deal if him and ezuedu took a step forward.
Would be amazing for Giants to find a Suebert/Diehl  
BSIMatt : 3/24/2023 12:36 pm : link
Type in mid to late rounds. The Giants really crushed it in finding guys to put next to Snee/McKenzie back in the day.
Fixing the  
giant power : 3/24/2023 12:42 pm : link
O-Line with another first round pick is a pipe dream. Thomas was the number 4 overall pick and struggled mightily his first year. Neal was the number 7 pick and leading up to the draft there were many who considered him the best overall prospect. After a rough first year people are questioning whether he can even remain at right tackle. Yet, now we are going to draft a center at the back third of the first round who will solve all our problems. This from a class of prospects that are not that highly regarded. I don't think so. Use your high draft capital on a CB and defensive end and draft your interior OL in the middle and later rounds, just like every other franchise in the league does. We have to huge investments expended in our tackles. A line loaded with number ones never won the Cowboys shit.
RE: Would be amazing for Giants to find a Suebert/Diehl  
Matt M. : 3/24/2023 12:42 pm : link
In comment 16074606 BSIMatt said:
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Type in mid to late rounds. The Giants really crushed it in finding guys to put next to Snee/McKenzie back in the day.
I thought we had that in Lemieux a few years ago. I really thought he was going to be one of the biggest steals in the draft. Oh well.

MNaybe not as much of a steal, but I am still high on Ezeudu and McKethan from last year.
I'll take door #2!  
BillT : 3/24/2023 12:46 pm : link
They like their group. Ezudu, Lemieux, Bredeson. They'll get some more OLs. Probably day 3.
to ryankeane above  
mittenedman : 3/24/2023 12:50 pm : link
Nobody's saying they're "set" on the interior.

What is being suggested is the front office felt they could get similar play from Bredeson/Lemieux at C as they could Feliciano/Gates. Without having to spend a dime.

The delta in play just wasn't there, to warrant spending.
Lemiuex shouldn't be counted on for anything  
widmerseyebrow : 3/24/2023 12:58 pm : link
So far he's another Gettleman guy who has "a good attitude" but isn't particularly good at anything. The day he doesn't make the roster should be taken as a sign that depth has improved.
RE: RE: Neal will be fine  
JonC : 3/24/2023 1:06 pm : link
In comment 16074507 Payasdaddy said:
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He's got good pro coaching and plenty of tools to utilize. He's got to get the footwork and mental aspect squared away. Move your feet, big dude! When he was healthy and played well he was very promising.

Bookends are set, and I'd wager Ezeudu will develop at one OG spot. Find another OG and C in the mid to later draft rounds.



I heard Neal would fine fine as the yr progressed in 2022. He got worse.
Tools are there but I see a lot of balance / dealing with counter moves issues. I think he will improve but I can’t assume he will just be fine. Some of his play was too downright bad too.
Going from yr1 to yr2 will really help . Just having an offseason not to deal with combine, pro days, cramming playbook etc. just wind down for some, recalibrate and start working on your weakness. Same with ezuedu
They both have some nice traits. If they clean up better than 50% of what was lacking, oline could be better from in house solutions
I have no issue picking oline anywhere in first 3 rds
The stench from getting killed on LOS in Philly lingers.


Neal was impacted by the knee injury, and being impacted took some of his confidence and focus on time wore on.

The balance issue has to do with his footwork, and breaking some old habits. He was doing fine at certain points before the injury. Dealing with speed rushers who bring some of his issues to the surface has to be improved upon as well. But, he's too talented and athletic and intelligent to not succeed at RT. They'll figure it out, and so will he. I say this as one who is always skeptical of words, I trust this kid will deliver.
RE: RE: Relax everyone  
3rdWAM : 3/24/2023 1:08 pm : link
In comment 16074498 eli4life said:
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I found the answer Link - ( New Window )
You know you’re big when you slim down to 320!



What would it hurt to bring him in on a cheap deal with incentives? Otherwise good for him for changing his life
Also  
BSIMatt : 3/24/2023 1:12 pm : link
Count me in as believing in Neal, being much more than fine.

Yeah, it would have been nice to see more encouraging signs his rookie year. A few things though: A)Yes played guard, RT and then LT at Alabama..but he was coming off a 15 game season as a left tackle and he was switching to the right side.
B)Bobby Johnson changed his pass set technique. I honestly think this was the thing he was struggling with. I know it sounds like an excuse..but that is not something you show someone once and they just know it. It's muscle memory, that takes reps for it to be second nature. I'd expect that to be an adjustment for him. How he was coached to get into his pass set at Alabama was completely different from how the Giants were coaching him. I believe Andrew Thomas went through something similar early on his career. C)The injury would affect his ability to gain continuity in getting those reps to make this adjustment second nature.

I think once his technique is ingrained(and he gets to have some live reps against a healthy Azeez/KT) you will see his natural ability show through. Offensive line play can be very similar to wrestling..there is a lot of technique involved and that takes repetition to ingrain.
2 and 3 are my guess. I believe Schoen has said before you need to  
Blue21 : 3/24/2023 1:43 pm : link
Let your players develop. So I would say there are current young players on the roster they like but I don't think they ll ignore it in the draft. BPA will be there desire and I m sure at some point that will include an oline pic maybe a center.
Ezudu  
PaulN : 3/24/2023 2:17 pm : link
Is a player I believe is being counted on to start this season. The only position that really lacks a starter is center. But that is nit to say thry won't draft a guard early either, although I would not be surprised to see them double dip at center in this draft.
RE: Ezudu  
ElitoCanton : 3/24/2023 2:22 pm : link
I could see a guard. They may like Bredeson at Center. They also may want to replace Glowinski the following season. I think we'll draft on IOL in round 3 or 4 and add at least one more somewhere else.

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Is a player I believe is being counted on to start this season. The only position that really lacks a starter is center. But that is nit to say thry won't draft a guard early either, although I would not be surprised to see them double dip at center in this draft.
agree with JonC completely about Neal. the have young OGs  
Victor in CT : 3/24/2023 2:23 pm : link
that should be ready to step up. If they get even average C play the line will be good. so hopefully they have a C targeted in FA or via trade, and perhaps in the draft.
the only WR  
BigBlueCane : 3/24/2023 2:28 pm : link
they would have interest in is Johnson and he's likely to be gone.

CFB churns out a ton of WR's and CBs every year now.

Dancing elephants are a much rarer and harder to find resource.

Just can't see this front office  
Dave on the UWS : 3/24/2023 2:43 pm : link
as thorough and specific as Schoen has showed he is, NOT being cognizant of what needs to be done on the OL. I would have to think they are Confident that Neal is the long term answer at RT and that Ezeudu can start at LG and show he belongs. They liked McKethan at least for depth behind Glowinski.
Its also likely, that they view Brederson as a player to be in the mix at LG and Center, and that if he "had" to start a Center, he would be an upgrade over what they had last year.
I'm sure Schoen knows he needs more front end talent on the IOL. He's not blind.
They will sign value vets for short term  
Mattman : 3/24/2023 4:26 pm : link
And continue bringing talent in mid to late rounds to keep a pipeline developing.

...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/24/2023 6:56 pm : link
I know he can be full of it @ times, but I was listening to The Giant Insider pod and Chris B. said that McKethan looked good prior to going down last August.
I think all three are in play  
Lines of Scrimmage : 3/25/2023 9:20 am : link
Schoen has his positional value but looking at the team he now has a expensive QB and soon to be a few other players.

He can help the Cap with having a cost effective OL and this leads me to building it through the draft for the most part.

I think a lot of the Giants issues on offense were from poor OL play. When the better fronts were too much for them it then exposed the WR issues. In most of the Giants losses you see they struggled running the ball compared to wins exposing the OL PB and WR's and poor down/distance did not help which stemmed from their ability to run successfully.
I'd like to see Dalton Risner in the mix  
Capt. Don : 3/25/2023 10:13 am : link
versatile and experienced.

I'm probably alone here, but I wonder what Peart could do at guard. Despite his athletic ability, I think he has been a better run blocker than pass blocker.

Also, McKethan reminded me of Fluker both in strengths and weaknesses. I mean that as a good thing, I liked Fluker more than most here.
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CornerStone246+17 : 3/25/2023 10:24 am : link
In comment 16074918 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I know he can be full of it @ times, but I was listening to The Giant Insider pod and Chris B. said that McKethan looked good prior to going down last August.


GMs normally put a lot of pride in their drafts especially their high draft investments which are the top 3 rounds.

Ezeudu is expected to be a starter. Neal is too. They aren't going to spend big $$$$ on someone until they figure out what they have in Neal and Ezeudu. The only position they dont have a top 3 round pick or a guy on a fairly sized contract is OC. However they might like Bredeson a lot there as they let both Gates and Feliciano go with little resistance. If not the draft is deep at OC and teams often find a potential or eventual starter in round 3 or round 4. Could be wrong but I definitely don't see what is not considered a premium position being taken in round 1 and doubtful in round 2.

Ezeudu has great feet and probably is plan B at RT if Neal continues his rookie struggled.

Neal/Ezeudu /Phillips
Ezeudu/Neal
Bredeson/Lemieux /Rd 3 or later pick
Glowinski
Thomas
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