In reviewing these two players, these guys are so much better than what we had on the roster last year other than Hodgins (I'm not counting on Robinson yet because of the ACL). I'm not saying anyone on our roster is a #1 receiver, but these are two competent NFL players who play with speed, can catch, and can play a variety of positions. Combine them with Darren Waller and the receiving corps is better already.
Yes
If they can teach him to play WR at a high level he can be a very useful player.
1 22.11 Parris Campbell WR Indianapolis Colts 18
1 22.11 Parris Campbell WR Indianapolis Colts 18
2 22.09 Kenneth Walker RB Seattle Seahawks 7
3 21.87 Breece Hall RB New York Jets 7
4 21.72 DeSean Jackson WR Baltimore Ravens 12
5 21.72 Christian Watson WR Green Bay Packers 13
6 21.68 Jaylen Waddle WR Miami Dolphins 16
7 21.68 Dalvin Cook RB Minnesota Vikings 10
Obviously it’s better than last year but NOBODY is lining up at corner vs giants going oh they are dangerous. IF Waller stays healthy the offense should be improved but Campbell is a jag. Crowder is a jag who is also old. Both have injury concerns.
Hodgins is prob our best wr and he is whatever.
I think giants select one at 25 and rn schoens strat is to just fill the depth chart out and let these guys compete for spots in wr rotation
I think giants select one at 25
yeah that would be a really bad move considering the true weaknesses this team has. WR is not their biggest problem right now.
If they can teach him to play WR at a high level he can be a very useful player.
That’s fast, for sure. Colts descended into a crisis during the season. Im always in favor of plucking talented young players out of situations like that. They’re floundering in a terrible environment that doesn’t let them grow and reach their promise. Very interesting signing.
Otherwise the substitution of Crowder for James makes no rational sense unless it is a case of addition by subtraction.
James, current version, is a far more explosive and dynamic athlete than Crowder, current version. If healthy, Crowder is a reliable chains mover from the slot, nothing more. In any rational compensation structure, James has to be cheaper than Crowder although neither s/b a bank breaker.
I am perplexed, but no reason to distrust the judgment of this staff.
Obviously it’s better than last year but NOBODY is lining up at corner vs giants going oh they are dangerous. IF Waller stays healthy the offense should be improved but Campbell is a jag. Crowder is a jag who is also old. Both have injury concerns.
Hodgins is prob our best wr and he is whatever.
I think giants select one at 25 and rn schoens strat is to just fill the depth chart out and let these guys compete for spots in wr rotation
Giants' WR group is still the weakest in the division and it's not by a small margin!!!
Again "dependable" has NOTHING to do with health. I'm not saying that, Dabs has said it 100 times.
If they can teach him to play WR at a high level he can be a very useful player.
With that logic go get H. Bolt from Jamaica
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Our WRs stink guys. BBI over here acting like it’s a good group. It’s a bunch of misfit toys
Obviously it’s better than last year but NOBODY is lining up at corner vs giants going oh they are dangerous. IF Waller stays healthy the offense should be improved but Campbell is a jag. Crowder is a jag who is also old. Both have injury concerns.
Hodgins is prob our best wr and he is whatever.
I think giants select one at 25 and rn schoens strat is to just fill the depth chart out and let these guys compete for spots in wr rotation
Giants' WR group is still the weakest in the division and it's not by a small margin!!!
No doubt but we need to evaluate it as receiving options as a group whoch includes TE and Barkley. That helps even it a bit.
I strongly think priority 1 in the draft will be getting a WR with #1 upside. Followed closely by CB and maybe a big bodied Edge player.
We seems to be going with a competent group (Waller would be the the #1)
We have
-speed (Campbell, Slayton…Saquon)
-size (Waller, Hodkins)
- quick, shifty (Wandale)
If the OL can do an adequate job, we should be ok (but I’d love if a we can also get a true #1 WR in the draft)
We seems to be going with a competent group (Waller would be the the #1)
We have
-speed (Campbell, Slayton…Saquon)
-size (Waller, Hodkins)
- quick, shifty (Wandale)
If the OL can do an adequate job, we should be ok (but I’d love if a we can also get a true #1 WR in the draft)
We interviewed or had dinner with practically every round 1 worthy WR and took interest in a couple 2nd rounders.
WR top 2 rounds is very very possible.
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But a team with a true #1, 2, 3….the other team schemes to stop them. Trying to put their best DBs on the best receivers.
We seems to be going with a competent group (Waller would be the the #1)
We have
-speed (Campbell, Slayton…Saquon)
-size (Waller, Hodkins)
- quick, shifty (Wandale)
If the OL can do an adequate job, we should be ok (but I’d love if a we can also get a true #1 WR in the draft)
We interviewed or had dinner with practically every round 1 worthy WR and took interest in a couple 2nd rounders.
WR top 2 rounds is very very possible.
Should say...1 WR in the top 2 rounds
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draft Zay Flowers is my perfect WR scenario (including the guys we have currently) going into the new season.
Something like this would be incredible. I would prefer JSN if we could somehow get him but Flowers as a very intriguing option too.
Don't think JSN will be there. I would prefer Addison (reminds me of Golden Tate) over Flowers (slot).
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draft Zay Flowers is my perfect WR scenario (including the guys we have currently) going into the new season.
Something like this would be incredible. I would prefer JSN if we could somehow get him but Flowers as a very intriguing option too.
Don't think JSN will be there. I would prefer Addison (reminds me of Golden Tate) over Flowers (slot).
Addisons underwhelming combine could drop him right to us. He is one of the few we did NOT take out to dinner interestingly enough.
Remember that slayton was our leading receiver 3 out of the last 4 years
You can’t teach speed. You need guys that can take the top of a defense
Now, Slayton I lacking in that department.
In X, Y, Z nomenclature, we have our X. Hodgins is a tall target who can beat the press off the LoS and nab contested balls. We're going to want Waller on the field (and we have Bellinger) so our Z can play also off the line, making typecast Y's like Crowder and Campbell credible Zs too.
If Waller's what we hope he is, we don't need a high fantasy point guy. We need a guy with some size to sub and back up Hodgins this year.
I’m assuning a base offense to have the 5OL,DJ, Saquon, Berlinger, Waller
Hodgins
With Wandale recovering - I’m assuming Slayton,Hodgins and Campbell will be rotating, though Hodgins finished the season as clearly the best WR.
Slayton and Campbell seem to have similar skill sets. We shall see who earns the most playing time.
In X, Y, Z nomenclature, we have our X. Hodgins is a tall target who can beat the press off the LoS and nab contested balls. We're going to want Waller on the field (and we have Bellinger) so our Z can play also off the line, making typecast Y's like Crowder and Campbell credible Zs too.
If Waller's what we hope he is, we don't need a high fantasy point guy. We need a guy with some size to sub and back up Hodgins this year.
Really good insight HBart. I would surmise after the draft we'll have another high upside option to add to this grouping from round 1 or 2.