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NFT: Roast duck

Bill in UT : 3/24/2023 8:32 pm
I made duck for dinner tonight. I cut it in half, dry brined with salt and pepper and baking soda overnight, roasted each half at 300 degrees to 125 internal, separated the leg quarters from the breasts and roasted the legs to 165. I then put them back together under the broiler for 15 minutes. The meat was terrific. The skin on the legs was pretty crispy, but the skin on the breasts was not as crispy as I'd have liked. The fig sauce was wonderful. Anyone have a way to get the skin ultracrisp without overcooking the meat? Maybe stop 20 degrees short of target before broiling?
Never done this but I if a breast skin is less that the prefer crispy  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/24/2023 9:25 pm : link
Can you get pan to about 400 and pan sear. Due to that layer of fat do you cross hatch the breast’s?

I’ve only made premade duck. As I’m the only one in my house who like ot at all. Need to roast one for Christmas. How big a bird did you get?
You need to dry the skin  
EdinAnnArbor : 3/24/2023 10:12 pm : link
Remember the movie scenes of China Town with ducks hanging in windows. There is a thick layer of fat under the skin so it's hard to crisp unless you over cook it. I also wouldn't hang it and dry it like the movies. Leave it uncovered in the fridge 2 or 3 days to dry the skin first before cooking. That will make it significantly crisper.

I also recommend raspberry instead of plum.
Chinatown ducks have the skin  
RomanWH : 3/24/2023 10:26 pm : link
Separated by way of air. They inflate the duck using an air compressor and the skin blows up like a balloon. That separation let's the skin crisp up a lot more.
Wabbit season?  
eli4life : 3/24/2023 10:31 pm : link
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After over four decades on this planet I had never had  
eric2425ny : 3/24/2023 11:46 pm : link
duck until Fall 2022. I went to a very highly rated fine dining Chinese restaurant outside of Detroit with two of my co-workers who were born in China.

I obviously had them order everything. They ordered the Peking Duck for the main course and it was honestly one of the best dishes I have ever had.
Thanks for your responses.  
Bill in UT : 3/25/2023 12:22 am : link
Peking duck with the air blown under the skin is a whole different process. When my kids were little, Mrs. in LI, at that time, took a class and made one at home. Freaked my kids out when they saw a duck hanging in their bathtub. I had this duck drying in the fridge for about 26 hours. The baking soda is also supposed to help dry the skin. I didn't cross-hatch, but I did prick the skin with a knife. And the legs, which I cooked to a higher temp, did come out crisper. 15 minutes under the broiler should give me pretty much the sear I'd get in a pan, I think. The times when I roasted a whole duck and got the skin really crisp, I overcooked the meat. All in all, it was really good, though. Oh, the duck was in the 5 pound range, btw. Maybe I should crisp the skin first and then bring the meat up to temp in the oven.
If you want to geek out….  
Guyton/Jackson : 3/25/2023 2:09 am : link
I haven’t had a chance to eat here yet, but I’m not sure that I’ve seen such an involved process. Thank goodness some people have the focus and ability to take food to the n-th degree….I
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Bill I used this recipe from the package last time  
Victor in CT : 3/25/2023 7:59 am : link
from Jurgielewicz farms and it came out really good. I didn't do the butter thing at the end though, didn't feel it was necessary.
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Bill, guess my question/suggestion  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/25/2023 9:30 am : link
About the pan is slime that method perhaps lead to less cooking of the under lying meat that putting it under the broiler. I also thought of one of those small hand torches one uses for Crème brûlée.

I’m not as worried about a bit of over duck meat due to the fat content but it is awesome when it all comes out perfect.
Most Duck available is Pekin  
A-Train : 3/25/2023 3:01 pm : link
You may also find Moulard which is preferred in French Restaurants and has a thicker fat layer under the skin.
If crispy skin is what you are after look for Orvia or Rohan Ducks which are a cross between Pekin and Moulard. These ducks have less of a fat layer and it is much easier to crisp the skin up. With the others definitely cross cut or prick and use the high heat sear mentioned above. With duck you need to leave in pan undisturbed for a much longer time than chicken.
Ladels of hot water  
fanoftheteam : 3/25/2023 3:54 pm : link
And apply it to the skin so it perks up. Pat dry after.
My wife says Pierce the  
Dave on the UWS : 3/25/2023 7:11 pm : link
skin before seasoning taking care NOT to Pierce the skin.
Use a small fork with fine tines all over the duck skin. She’s good at cooking duck try that.
Thanks, everyone  
Bill in UT : 3/25/2023 7:58 pm : link
I'm probably going to go back to breaking down the duck and pan roasting the breasts and making confit from the leg quarters. I think I have my best control of the process that way. Ina Garten boils her ducks first to render out the fat, but I want to save the fat, and her recipe has very mixed reviews. The air-blown Pekin duck is generally shredded and served on a pancake, so a little overcooking is not a problem. I do believe, tho, that I've had a half duck in restaurants done the way I want it. I'll probably keep trying from time to time using some of your suggestions.
Saurebraten On the Menu Tonight!  
Grey Pilgrim : 3/26/2023 12:39 pm : link
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these folks recommend removing as much fat as possible and  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/26/2023 1:23 pm : link
then boiling the duck to render the fat before roasting to get crispy skin in addition to pricking the skin

also I've seen instructions to re-prick the skin before the last 15 mins of cooking breast side up
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RE: Saurebraten On the Menu Tonight!  
Bill in UT : 3/26/2023 1:30 pm : link
In comment 16075628 Grey Pilgrim said:
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About time :)
RE: these folks recommend removing as much fat as possible and  
Bill in UT : 3/26/2023 1:30 pm : link
In comment 16075655 gidiefor said:
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then boiling the duck to render the fat before roasting to get crispy skin in addition to pricking the skin

also I've seen instructions to re-prick the skin before the last 15 mins of cooking breast side up Link - ( New Window )


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