Contract details: Jamison Crowder and Amani Oruwariye

in case of injuries or if they show skill...

made huge contributions to the team. Be tough, smart and dependable and your contract $$ aren't going to matter.

hope that some of these one-year signings can show enough for a multiple year signing next off season. The CAP was so bad last year that this could not be done.

In comment 16075528 MarvelousMike said:

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hope that some of these one-year signings can show enough for a multiple year signing next off season. The CAP was so bad last year that this could not be done.

VSB were pretty much all they did last year and could do outside of Glowinski and Feliciano so this response literally makes no sense

draft.

These are good moves by these 2 players.

A WR in Dabs offense and DB in Winks Defense can certainly help them next year if they can do well.

insurance and a guy that can stick on the PS and be brought up for games if need be.

It’s interesting. You want to develop your young talent but ARob is coming off of injury and Flott may still be a year away, physically, if he ever gets there. He’s just built narrow.

would have signed these guys to two year deals at 4 million per. Glad we have someone running the show who isn't overpaying in free agency

Career 415/4667/28. Injury history is the concern. Soft tissue injuries in 20 and 21 limited him to 12 games. 22 season only 5 games due ankle fracture. Best year was 2019: 78/833/6. 16/17 seasons only marginally lower numbers. Not a WR1, but a quality player when healthy.

As it is offset by the player that would be replaced.....

So cap hit is usually in 1000s, if that...

Obviously, prove it deals.....and both make a ton of sense as if they show their best....both could be starters.

In comment 16075546 Pepe LePugh said:

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Career 415/4667/28. Injury history is the concern. Soft tissue injuries in 20 and 21 limited him to 12 games. 22 season only 5 games due ankle fracture. Best year was 2019: 78/833/6. 16/17 seasons only marginally lower numbers. Not a WR1, but a quality player when healthy.

Crowder hasn't been relevant in years hence the cheap contract. We'll see what happens but, to me, he's insurance for injuries.

Impressive. The true test is the draft. It’s the only way to build and sustain a winner.

As for free agency, IMO the value at FA CB will be too good to pass up a one year deal. I also expect another DT, but the options are fewer there so they may count on a rookie in the rotation. DJ Davidson was very serviceable last year.

He’s a more dependable version of James and he already has a rapport with DJ; no doubt they’ll work together this spring. Worst case, he’ll be the gadget option until Wandale is back. I think Shep will be the odd man out as he retires to a coaching career.

Nice

"professional" depth. Someone like the DB could surprise since he's still young. Crowder is good insurance for Wan'dale's recovery, allows them to work Campbell more on the outside too.

In comment 16075550 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 16075546 Pepe LePugh said: Quote: Career 415/4667/28. Injury history is the concern. Soft tissue injuries in 20 and 21 limited him to 12 games. 22 season only 5 games due ankle fracture. Best year was 2019: 78/833/6. 16/17 seasons only marginally lower numbers. Not a WR1, but a quality player when healthy. Crowder hasn't been relevant in years hence the cheap contract. We'll see what happens but, to me, he's insurance for injuries.

Not sure I agree with your concept of relevance? As I said, he’s been slowed by injuries the past 3 years, but as recently as 2020, he was contributing 5 rec and half a TD per game in the 12 he played. I’d agree that he wasn’t relevant last year, and has to prove he can return to form.

In comment 16075565 Pepe LePugh said:

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In comment 16075550 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 16075546 Pepe LePugh said: Quote: Career 415/4667/28. Injury history is the concern. Soft tissue injuries in 20 and 21 limited him to 12 games. 22 season only 5 games due ankle fracture. Best year was 2019: 78/833/6. 16/17 seasons only marginally lower numbers. Not a WR1, but a quality player when healthy. Crowder hasn't been relevant in years hence the cheap contract. We'll see what happens but, to me, he's insurance for injuries. Not sure I agree with your concept of relevance? As I said, he’s been slowed by injuries the past 3 years, but as recently as 2020, he was contributing 5 rec and half a TD per game in the 12 he played. I’d agree that he wasn’t relevant last year, and has to prove he can return to form.

That is 3 years ago so ...

Watching the staff do well with low cost vets last year, gives me confidence in the pro personnel scouting Brown is leading. The Giants seems to have a nice rapport between what the system demands and what the scouts are finding.

In comment 16075576 christian said:

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Watching the staff do well with low cost vets last year, gives me confidence in the pro personnel scouting Brown is leading. The Giants seems to have a nice rapport between what the system demands and what the scouts are finding.

I hope the heirarchy makes it financially improbable that Brown ever leaves, Albeit a GM positional offer can’t be too far away, imo..He’s a keeper

In comment 16075552 Spider56 said:

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He’s a more dependable version of James and he already has a rapport with DJ; no doubt they’ll work together this spring. Worst case, he’ll be the gadget option until Wandale is back. I think Shep will be the odd man out as he retires to a coaching career.

That’s how I see it as well PR guy. Good vet presence in the locker room Al’s Shep but sees the field.

In comment 16075552 Spider56 said:

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He’s a more dependable version of James and he already has a rapport with DJ; no doubt they’ll work together this spring. Worst case, he’ll be the gadget option until Wandale is back. I think Shep will be the odd man out as he retires to a coaching career.

I have to agree with this. Or maybe it's the optimist in me. To me he has a better chance of making the team than Shep and I love him. But can he return from his injury? Not sure he ll be a coach but think it's real tough for him to make this team unless it's late in the season when someone goes down.

Because his second stint in the NFL was with the Jets, during the Darnold years and it’s been well documented how dysfunctional that offense was during that time. If that’s what we are judging him on, I think a move into the Kafka/Daboll offense with Jones trending up could breathe new life into his career. I can’t read too much into his time in Buffalo because it was so short and he was trying to break into one of the top established offenses in the NFL…but Schoen/Daboll I’m sure were able to get some intel on how the Bills evaluated Crowder during his short time there.

Investing low contracts in younger guys with upside is the best way to fill in holes in a roster. This staff has only had one draft so needs to find talent elsewhere for now.

In comment 16075576 christian said:

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Watching the staff do well with low cost vets last year, gives me confidence in the pro personnel scouting Brown is leading. The Giants seems to have a nice rapport between what the system demands and what the scouts are finding.

Indeed

I believe makes the team. He is a very good pos receiver. Unless he gets injured during preseason.

In comment 16075569 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 16075565 Pepe LePugh said: Quote: In comment 16075550 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 16075546 Pepe LePugh said: Quote: Career 415/4667/28. Injury history is the concern. Soft tissue injuries in 20 and 21 limited him to 12 games. 22 season only 5 games due ankle fracture. Best year was 2019: 78/833/6. 16/17 seasons only marginally lower numbers. Not a WR1, but a quality player when healthy. Crowder hasn't been relevant in years hence the cheap contract. We'll see what happens but, to me, he's insurance for injuries. Not sure I agree with your concept of relevance? As I said, he’s been slowed by injuries the past 3 years, but as recently as 2020, he was contributing 5 rec and half a TD per game in the 12 he played. I’d agree that he wasn’t relevant last year, and has to prove he can return to form. That is 3 years ago so ...

Robbie is right.This is the NFL a lot can change in 3 years. Players bodies quickly breakdown from tackle sports. Either age or injury can drastically chnage a players explosion and agility on the field in just 1 year. This doesn't guarantee Crowder is Clam Chowder but he is a risky bet not being healthy in 2 years.