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New York Giants have met with Penn State C Juice Scruggs

gidiefor : Mod : 3/26/2023 11:35 am
Ryan Fowler
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A name buzzing inside league circles more than media — Penn State IOL Juice Scruggs. G/C versatile, nasty demeanor in the run, firm anchor when asked to sink.

Most recently met with Giants, Cowboys, Texans, Saints, and Bears.

Riser in the class.
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I would love to land this guy  
Jay on the Island : 3/26/2023 11:37 am : link
for his name alone.
I can add  
Y28 : 3/26/2023 11:40 am : link
that former Giant Lawrence Tynes (a Troy graduate) has been online pounding the table for the Giants to draft Troy C Jake Andrews.

Andrews is gaining a ton of interest and last week had a Top 30 Private Visit with the Buffalo Bills.

The great thing about Andrews, he has never missed a practice or a single snap in any game during his career. Checks the box for "Dependable"
Big fan, psyched to hear, posted thus yesterday  
j_rud : 3/26/2023 11:40 am : link
Scruggs is one to watch
j_rud : 3/25/2023 8:56 am : link : reply
If Bredeson isn't on point a guy like Scruggs could come in and steal that spot. He's split time all over the interior and started the past 2 years. Not a road grader but a great pass blocker, dominated the all star game he played in, can't remember which one. Definitely one to watch for us.
The NFL Neywork projects Scruggs as a career backup  
cosmicj : 3/26/2023 11:50 am : link
The 9ers met with him too at the combine.
Scruggs really stood out in the Shrine Bowl  
gogiants : 3/26/2023 11:54 am : link
The site Steelers Depot does some pretty decent draft reviews sent 5 people to cover the Shrine Bowl. Here are their individual notes on Scruggs.

Day Notes
1 Penn State interior offensive lineman Juice Scruggs (6026, 308) had a great day overall. He consistently won his matchups in the trenches and moved very well overall.

1 Penn State interior offensive lineman Juice Scruggs was much like Carvin. Showed a strong base. Stood up Texas iDL Keondre Coburn at the line of scrimmage in 1v1. Was impressive throughout the day.

2 Penn State iOL Juice Scruggs is the best lineman here for the East team. He’s a dominant force in the middle. Great power, hand usage and overall footwork. Center and guard capable. Dominant last two days.

2 Penn State OL Juice Scruggs is the best offensive lineman on the East Team. For the second day in a row, he was able drive guys back during 1v1 and was really solid. His base is really strong.

3 Once the West team got into some of the position battles, Penn State interior offense lineman Juice Scruggs and Texas interior defensive lineman Keondre Coburn really had some impressive battles. Scruggs can play center or guard and really handled himself well throughout the day against a good East defensive line group. He and Coburn were the guys to watch and Scruggs got the best of him in three of four matchups in 1v1 sessions.

3 Penn State iOL Juice Scruggs is an absolute DUDE. His hand placement is always right where it should be, he uses his frame well and gets low to generate leverage. He had some real fun 1v1 reps against Keondre Coburn of Texas and more often than not, Scruggs got the better of Coburn.
The Juice  
Spider43 : 3/26/2023 11:59 am : link
Is loose?
So it’s sounds like there may be 4-5 solid OC prospects?  
Payasdaddy : 3/26/2023 12:02 pm : link
We don’t need to force one in first rd unless warranted.
In the perfect world we sign a guy like ashawn Robinson to dline rotation
And draft cb , wr and IOL in first 3 rds. Would really like another lb to compete too
Player development gonna be real important. We have to develop a couple guys from mid rd into starters
It’s what makes teams good all the time, keep that pipeline going.
Not enough high picks to fill all our needs.
I'm anxious to read Sy's write ups on Centers  
Blue21 : 3/26/2023 12:13 pm : link
this year.
Nasty demeanor;  
Silver Spoon : 3/26/2023 12:31 pm : link
Draft heeem.
RE: So it’s sounds like there may be 4-5 solid OC prospects?  
Spider56 : 3/26/2023 12:32 pm : link
In comment 16075608 Payasdaddy said:
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We don’t need to force one in first rd unless warranted.
In the perfect world we sign a guy like ashawn Robinson to dline rotation
And draft cb , wr and IOL in first 3 rds. Would really like another lb to compete too
Player development gonna be real important. We have to develop a couple guys from mid rd into starters
It’s what makes teams good all the time, keep that pipeline going.
Not enough high picks to fill all our needs.


+1. ... 1 more pick on day 2 would be nice.
RE: Scruggs really stood out in the Shrine Bowl  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2023 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16075605 gogiants said:
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The site Steelers Depot does some pretty decent draft reviews sent 5 people to cover the Shrine Bowl. Here are their individual notes on Scruggs.

Day Notes
1 Penn State interior offensive lineman Juice Scruggs (6026, 308) had a great day overall. He consistently won his matchups in the trenches and moved very well overall.

1 Penn State interior offensive lineman Juice Scruggs was much like Carvin. Showed a strong base. Stood up Texas iDL Keondre Coburn at the line of scrimmage in 1v1. Was impressive throughout the day.

2 Penn State iOL Juice Scruggs is the best lineman here for the East team. He’s a dominant force in the middle. Great power, hand usage and overall footwork. Center and guard capable. Dominant last two days.

2 Penn State OL Juice Scruggs is the best offensive lineman on the East Team. For the second day in a row, he was able drive guys back during 1v1 and was really solid. His base is really strong.

3 Once the West team got into some of the position battles, Penn State interior offense lineman Juice Scruggs and Texas interior defensive lineman Keondre Coburn really had some impressive battles. Scruggs can play center or guard and really handled himself well throughout the day against a good East defensive line group. He and Coburn were the guys to watch and Scruggs got the best of him in three of four matchups in 1v1 sessions.

3 Penn State iOL Juice Scruggs is an absolute DUDE. His hand placement is always right where it should be, he uses his frame well and gets low to generate leverage. He had some real fun 1v1 reps against Keondre Coburn of Texas and more often than not, Scruggs got the better of Coburn.


So they were in full bloom love?
For years we watched other teams find good OL  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/26/2023 12:36 pm : link
WRs LBs all over he draft. Reese ruined his legacy here sadly. DG had a few bright spots but the draft at its best a gamble. Let's hope the promise Schoen has shown shows up again this year and the kids from last year progress.

There will be very good players past the 25th pick
RE: I'm anxious to read Sy's write ups on Centers  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2023 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16075612 Blue21 said:
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this year.


I think there was a blurb from Sy that said there are no centers in this class with great lateral movement. However, try to find it as I am sure I butchered what he was saying.
Also Sy  
Bones : 3/26/2023 1:03 pm : link
Lumps center and guard together so usually center review is quite limited.
He had a good week at the Senior Bowl  
George : 3/26/2023 1:47 pm : link
IIRC

I’ll bet he’s on our radar in the 5th.
Playing with the Queen of Hearts  
BillHungg : 3/26/2023 2:07 pm : link
- Juice Newton
RE: RE: I'm anxious to read Sy's write ups on Centers  
Del Shofner : 3/26/2023 2:26 pm : link
In comment 16075627 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 16075612 Blue21 said:


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this year.



I think there was a blurb from Sy that said there are no centers in this class with great lateral movement. However, try to find it as I am sure I butchered what he was saying.


Here's what Sy said (it is just a blurb):

Sy'56 comments on the the centers in the draft
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/19/2023 4:04 pm
David Syvertsen @Ourlads_Sy

Replying to @DanSchneierNFL

The issue I see with this OC class is the lack of lateral speed. Tippman and Wypler can get you a solid first step, but not sure they can play with the range Feliciano showed

Outside zone concepts will make it tough with any of the starting caliber OCs from this group
RE: I can add  
k2tampa : 3/26/2023 4:00 pm : link
In comment 16075600 Y28 said:
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that former Giant Lawrence Tynes (a Troy graduate) has been online pounding the table for the Giants to draft Troy C Jake Andrews.

Andrews is gaining a ton of interest and last week had a Top 30 Private Visit with the Buffalo Bills.

The great thing about Andrews, he has never missed a practice or a single snap in any game during his career. Checks the box for "Dependable"


Not that one has to do with the other, but Lemieux didn't miss a game or practice either. Now he can't get on the field. All it takes is one problem that becomes chronic and dependable disappears.
RE: RE: RE: I'm anxious to read Sy's write ups on Centers  
robbieballs2003 : 3/26/2023 4:47 pm : link
In comment 16075681 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 16075627 robbieballs2003 said:


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In comment 16075612 Blue21 said:


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this year.



I think there was a blurb from Sy that said there are no centers in this class with great lateral movement. However, try to find it as I am sure I butchered what he was saying.



Here's what Sy said (it is just a blurb):

Sy'56 comments on the the centers in the draft
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/19/2023 4:04 pm
David Syvertsen @Ourlads_Sy

Replying to @DanSchneierNFL

The issue I see with this OC class is the lack of lateral speed. Tippman and Wypler can get you a solid first step, but not sure they can play with the range Feliciano showed

Outside zone concepts will make it tough with any of the starting caliber OCs from this group


Thanks.
RE: I can add  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2023 5:37 pm : link
In comment 16075600 Y28 said:
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that former Giant Lawrence Tynes (a Troy graduate) has been online pounding the table for the Giants to draft Troy C Jake Andrews.

Andrews is gaining a ton of interest and last week had a Top 30 Private Visit with the Buffalo Bills.

The great thing about Andrews, he has never missed a practice or a single snap in any game during his career. Checks the box for "Dependable"


Just like Shane Lemieux?
I watched the offensive cutup  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/26/2023 7:28 pm : link
against Purdue. Easily their best offensive lineman. Something I have never seen before. They had him go from the offensive center position to the right end to take on the rusher that had been giving them problems after a chip from the TE (around 10:45 and 11:07 on the video). Pretty impressive movement, lots of trust by the coaching staff, and not something I think I have ever seen before.
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RE: I can add  
jnoble : 3/26/2023 7:35 pm : link
In comment 16075600 Y28 said:
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that former Giant Lawrence Tynes (a Troy graduate) has been online pounding the table for the Giants to draft Troy C Jake Andrews.

Andrews is gaining a ton of interest and last week had a Top 30 Private Visit with the Buffalo Bills.

The great thing about Andrews, he has never missed a practice or a single snap in any game during his career. Checks the box for "Dependable"


Yeah but we've all seen how that works once they sign their rookie contract with the Giants. They immediately stumble out of the room and break every bone in their body 😆
Cs and reality  
Colin@gbn : 3/26/2023 8:19 pm : link
Eric et al: Have been following this thread with some interest but I am just not sure what people are actually thinking. Guys like Scruggs and Anderson are mid-round prospects who you bring in as developmental types that you bring to camp to see where they might fit. You certainly don't draft someone in the 4th-5th round with the idea that they will compete for a starting spot. You can always hope but hope is NOT a plan. Fact is that if the Giants did want to address the starting C position with a mid-round pick then you trade a 4 or 5 to a team with a veteran C with starting experience or potential.
RE: Cs and reality  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/26/2023 8:44 pm : link
In comment 16075790 Colin@gbn said:
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Eric et al: Have been following this thread with some interest but I am just not sure what people are actually thinking. Guys like Scruggs and Anderson are mid-round prospects who you bring in as developmental types that you bring to camp to see where they might fit. You certainly don't draft someone in the 4th-5th round with the idea that they will compete for a starting spot. You can always hope but hope is NOT a plan. Fact is that if the Giants did want to address the starting C position with a mid-round pick then you trade a 4 or 5 to a team with a veteran C with starting experience or potential.


It's usually not wise to assume that any draft pick, even the 25th player taken in the draft will automatically start from Day 1. You hope the guy does. You expect him to do so. But you had better have a back up plan. Rookies are rookies.
RE: Nasty demeanor;  
PatersonPlank : 3/26/2023 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16075623 Silver Spoon said:
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Draft heeem.


Ha, but how is his motor? Is he a high motor guy?
I believe  
LS : 3/26/2023 10:21 pm : link
Scruggs also missed at least a year of development because of a bad car accident.
see  
bc4life : 3/27/2023 10:02 pm : link
link at 5:27 re: Scruggs
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