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Sounds like the Niners are completely done with Lance

DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:31 pm
Ian Rapoport reporting that Sam Darnold with start for the 49ers if Purdy isn't ready. If Tyrod Taylor weren't here, a late pick for Lance due to his having *similar* (DJ is better, in no way am I stating otherwise, rather the potential "seamless" transition scheme wise if an injury went down/potentially giving Daboll a project behind DJ) would have mode some sense to me (Lance is still only 22)
Sounds like Lance won’t be ready for week 1  
UConn4523 : 3/27/2023 5:32 pm : link
where does it say they are done with him?
b...b......but...  
I Love Clams Casino : 3/27/2023 5:34 pm : link
I thought the 9'ers would have won the Eagles game if he didn't get hurt???



RE: Sounds like Lance won’t be ready for week 1  
jvm52106 : 3/27/2023 5:34 pm : link
In comment 16076425 UConn4523 said:
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where does it say they are done with him?


Agreed, that is a bit of an assumption.
RE: Sounds like Lance won’t be ready for week 1  
DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:36 pm : link
In comment 16076425 UConn4523 said:
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where does it say they are done with him?


Says here Darnold was a "priority" signing and he will start if Purdy wasn't ready aka Lance not even a consideration.
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I'm  
DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:37 pm : link
not the only one who took it that way as well

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This video has a ton to unpack. But most importantly, there’s absolutely no mention of Trey Lance.

Rap makes it sound like Brock Purdy is the definitive starter and says that Sam Darnold was a priority addition because he’ll need to start the season if Purdy isn’t healthy. Wow."
I can't see Lance having much of a future in SF.  
FStubbs : 3/27/2023 5:38 pm : link
Brock Purdy is the young QB who has proven himself. His presence on the roster makes Lance - entering his 3rd year next year - kind of pointless.
RE: RE: Sounds like Lance won’t be ready for week 1  
UConn4523 : 3/27/2023 5:40 pm : link
In comment 16076431 DanMetroMan said:
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where does it say they are done with him?



Says here Darnold was a "priority" signing and he will start if Purdy wasn't ready aka Lance not even a consideration. Link - ( New Window )


You keep adding that last part. Sounds to me like they aren’t going to rush him back from injury and need a plan B heading into the season. That’s smart.
Rush  
DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:43 pm : link
back Lance? Doesn't sound like that's at all an issue here.

"Lance, meanwhile, resumed throwing from full dropbacks last week and is expected to be fully cleared before OTA practices begin in May. Lynch said he’s been watching Lance’s progress from his second-story office window."
You also left out the part  
UConn4523 : 3/27/2023 5:50 pm : link
where he said they can’t wait for Lance to get back out there, and neither can Lance.

They are going into the season supporting the guy that got the team into the playoffs. To date Lance hasn’t been healthy so no, they aren’t just going to give him the team. It’ll be a QB camp battle and with JG gone, Purdy is the one with the job to lose.

As for your question in the OP, sure I’d be open to Lance for a late rounder as I don’t want Taylor as our long term backup and theirs no “Purdy” potential with him.
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DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:51 pm : link
I'm saying is Rapoport is reporting they made Darnold a priority because they felt he will start if Purdy isn't ready. If he's wrong then so be it but that's what he said in the video

"one of the reasons Sam Darnold was such a priority for them was because they needed someone who could come in and play, who has been there and been a starter" absolutely no mention of Lance, or competition for Lance, concern with Lance not being healthy for the season etc.
RE: You also left out the part  
DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:52 pm : link
In comment 16076452 UConn4523 said:
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where he said they can’t wait for Lance to get back out there, and neither can Lance.

They are going into the season supporting the guy that got the team into the playoffs. To date Lance hasn’t been healthy so no, they aren’t just going to give him the team. It’ll be a QB camp battle and with JG gone, Purdy is the one with the job to lose.

As for your question in the OP, sure I’d be open to Lance for a late rounder as I don’t want Taylor as our long term backup and theirs no “Purdy” potential with him.


To be clear the Lance health quote is from a different article and provided a health update for both guys from the Athletic (linked)
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DanMetroMan : 3/27/2023 5:53 pm : link
point is merely, I think many are on board with a late pick on a QB *if* the right guy is there. Lance theoretically fits this "role" and he's the same age (or younger than) many of the QB's in this draft.
The Giants buying low and trading for Lance  
cosmicj : 3/27/2023 5:54 pm : link
Is exactly the sort of move I love. The issue is that the 49ers incur a $20mm dead cap hit if they move him.
If he’s wrong is kinda the point  
UConn4523 : 3/27/2023 5:56 pm : link
and I doubt he’s been told their plans. Shanahan and Lynch are going to keep the phones on and know they need atleast 2 healthy, capable players at the position. Having only Purdy means you can’t trade Lance and be comfortable heading into the season. Adding Darnold is cheap, low risk and allows you to jump on a trade. Nowhere does it say or infer they are done with Lance and why would it? What GM is going to sabotage their trade leverage openly?
I also don’t think for a second they  
UConn4523 : 3/27/2023 5:58 pm : link
are confident in a SB run with Purdy at the helm. They’ve been trying to upgrade QB for years, a good half season by a late rounder isn’t going to change their minds. What happens if/when he falters?
If Lance is on track to recover,  
81_Great_Dane : 3/27/2023 6:20 pm : link
he would be a candidate for a trade. But since his value is impossible to determine, he's very hard to trade, even for a conditional draft pick or picks.
Lamar front runners  
Sy'56 : 3/27/2023 6:24 pm : link
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RE: Lamar front runners  
jeff57 : 3/27/2023 6:30 pm : link
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Can’t afford him if they want to keep players like Bosa and Kittle
RE: b...b......but...  
weaverpsu : 3/27/2023 6:40 pm : link
In comment 16076428 I Love Clams Casino said:
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I thought the 9'ers would have won the Eagles game if he didn't get hurt???




They probably would have won if they had ANY real quarterback.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/27/2023 6:41 pm : link
I forgot Lance was even on SF. He was THAT much of an afterthought to me.
RE: RE: Lamar front runners  
UConn4523 : 3/27/2023 6:44 pm : link
In comment 16076504 jeff57 said:
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Can’t afford him if they want to keep players like Bosa and Kittle


Sure they can. As for Kittle though he’s a really old 30. My guess is he won’t be a 49er past 2023.
RE: The Giants buying low and trading for Lance  
JoeSchoens11 : 3/27/2023 6:48 pm : link
In comment 16076458 cosmicj said:
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Is exactly the sort of move I love. The issue is that the 49ers incur a $20mm dead cap hit if they move him.
I believe they’d be on the hook for $11M in remaining signing bonuses and we’d be paying 4M for 23 and $5M for 24 (fully guaranteed).

I wouldn’t want to tie that much cap space in addition to pick(s) on someone with his performance history.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/27/2023 6:51 pm : link
Trade for Lance? Hell no. Are we sure he can even play football? He had one college season & has played what, 7 or 8 games as a pro in 2 seasons?
RE: b...b......but...  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/27/2023 7:22 pm : link
In comment 16076428 I Love Clams Casino said:
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I thought the 9'ers would have won the Eagles game if he didn't get hurt???



Wanna try that one again so it doesn't look so bad for you?
I know John Lynch  
BigBlueCane : 3/27/2023 7:22 pm : link
is nominally the Niner GM but I have a hard time thinking he wanted Lance as his QB of the future.

RE: I know John Lynch  
Racer : 3/27/2023 8:22 pm : link
In comment 16076554 BigBlueCane said:
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is nominally the Niner GM but I have a hard time thinking he wanted Lance as his QB of the future.


I think Lynch and Peters are complicit in the crime and the cover up. Ever wonder why Jimmy G. got banished to the back practice field by himself instead of his agent filling the intenet with content? Shanahan's insurance policy once Lance put some practice and exhibition reps on tape.
If the Niners have to rely on Sam Darnold  
SirLoinOfBeef : 3/28/2023 9:03 am : link
they're sunk.

3rd over all pick in 2021.  
Gruber : 3/28/2023 9:16 am : link
Cost San Francisco a first round swap (move up from #12 to #3), a 2022 first round (#29) and a 2023 first round (#29).
Miami had themselves traded with Houston for the #3 pick.

San Francisco had no first round pick in 2022 and doesn't pick until the 3rd round in the upcoming draft.
You kind of need your QB choice to work out, when you pay that price.
Winning certainly helps  
Sean : 3/28/2023 9:18 am : link
But, SF gets no criticism for that horrific Lance trade.
RE: Lamar front runners  
Gruber : 3/28/2023 9:18 am : link
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Okay, I get that talks are at "an advanced stage," but would it be outrageous for the Jets to pivot from Rodgers to trading for Lamar?
I posted this on the Lamar Jackson thread, to no repsonse at all.
RE: Winning certainly helps  
NINEster : 3/28/2023 10:51 am : link
In comment 16076811 Sean said:
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But, SF gets no criticism for that horrific Lance trade.


It's still unresolved.

How would the Jags have looked prior to last season if they paid the same price for Trevor Lawrence?

Lance's tape is pretty good so far, and he's on as good a team to be carried along slowly, you know like that overrated QB who was carried in Seattle back in 2012-2015, until he became a semi decent QB on his own a few years later.......

Here's something:

Lance has yet to play a nationally televised NFL game. Which means, the only people who have really seen him outside of SF are Cardinal, Seahawk, Texan, and Bears fans.

If Daniel Jones managed to get a $40 million APY contract after his first few years in the NFL, Trey Lance can absolutely be a decent NFL QB.

Even if Brock Purdy never came to light and last season ended in a typical NFC Championship game loss with Jimmy G, a good chunk of the Niner fanbase would've been perfectly ok rolling with Lance in 2023, and having a Darnold type backup on the roster.

At the end of the day, Goodell made the NFL such that winning a bowl with Jimmy (or even Jalen Hurts) is fucking hard with the way the game is slanted to the super QB. That's the only reason a Trey Lance is ever drafted by Kyle Shanahan (of all people), because the potential can't be ignored.

You bet on Lance or another cheap rookie contract QB if you have the roster. Maybe you get lucky and those guys are good enough to get it done.

This season once and for all, I think we'll get answers on the guy. If he's truly snake bit with injuries, it might not matter his potential. If Purdy can't start and Lance really carries the team and Wally Pips Purdy, then you know he's good.

If Purdy is Joe Montana and wins the Niners a Super Bowl, then at that point you move on.

Hindsight is way too 20/20 to say coulda had Kyle Pitts/Micah Parsons and Purdy.....yes........however, realistically, Brock Purdy is likely not a 49er and doesn't become the guy the way he did.

The Lance trade was correct no matter what happens from here on out, and trust me, I'm not being a homer. You see what happened in KC with Alex Smith and Mahomes, and Smith was a Niner too, so hits real close to home.

Niners had 5 realistic Lombardi possibilities in the last decade alone, so the sentiment is correct and would be for any other team in the same situation.
Not sure if we should give up anything  
Spiciest Memelord : 3/28/2023 11:01 am : link
for Lance. I was struck by and tempted to post how garbage he looked right before his injury.
RE: If the Niners have to rely on Sam Darnold  
Spiciest Memelord : 3/28/2023 11:02 am : link
In comment 16076791 SirLoinOfBeef said:
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they're sunk.


As much as I like laughing at Durrnold he probably will do well with that coaching staff.
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