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Matt123 : 3/28/2023 6:53 pm
Haven't watched the full 16 minutes yet, but I think he said soft tissue injuries were "down over 200%". Not sure what that means. Looking forward to the rest though.
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How do you go down 200%?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/28/2023 6:56 pm : link
You can increase by 200% but if you went down by 100% that means you had zero.
i think he means if there were 15 soft tissue in '21 they had 5 in '20  
Eric on Li : 3/28/2023 6:58 pm : link
it may be a bit of a distorted number because trading toney may have accounted for the entire reduction.

mcls and acls were up, but id imagine they consider those less preventable compared to soft tissue, which very well could have been load management or programming issues. i think players did say judge over practiced them in pads during game weeks to the point of wearing down so there may be something to that.
RE: How do you go down 200%?  
Eric on Li : 3/28/2023 7:04 pm : link
In comment 16077349 robbieballs2003 said:
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You can increase by 200% but if you went down by 100% that means you had zero.


i think he probably saw it the opposite way (injuries were 200% higher in 2021 than 2022) and just communicated it wrong not realizing the math changes in reverse.

5-->15 is a 200% increase
15-->5 is a 66% decrease
Thanks for posting!  
FranknWeezer : 3/28/2023 7:07 pm : link
Interesting to hear the Waller notion came up back at the Senior Bowl.
RE: RE: How do you go down 200%?  
robbieballs2003 : 3/28/2023 7:08 pm : link
In comment 16077355 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16077349 robbieballs2003 said:


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You can increase by 200% but if you went down by 100% that means you had zero.



i think he probably saw it the opposite way (injuries were 200% higher in 2021 than 2022) and just communicated it wrong not realizing the math changes in reverse.

5-->15 is a 200% increase
15-->5 is a 66% decrease


Correct. If he is using last year as the starting point, it is a 67% decrease in injuries. If he is comparing it to last year, then he can say there were 200% more injuries in 2021 than in 2022.
RE: RE: RE: How do you go down 200%?  
Eric on Li : 3/28/2023 7:20 pm : link
In comment 16077360 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 16077355 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 16077349 robbieballs2003 said:


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You can increase by 200% but if you went down by 100% that means you had zero.



i think he probably saw it the opposite way (injuries were 200% higher in 2021 than 2022) and just communicated it wrong not realizing the math changes in reverse.

5-->15 is a 200% increase
15-->5 is a 66% decrease



Correct. If he is using last year as the starting point, it is a 67% decrease in injuries. If he is comparing it to last year, then he can say there were 200% more injuries in 2021 than in 2022.


which is what i suspect an endeavoring sports science staffer put into a deck schoen was quoting from because the latter sounds better and schoen just regurgitated it incorrectly by accident.
Paul Schwartz  
bceagle05 : 3/28/2023 7:59 pm : link
sure got his money’s worth.
Statistically deceptive way of saying that soft tissue injuries are  
Ivan15 : 3/29/2023 7:57 am : link
1/4 of what they were before.
Two things I saw  
section125 : 3/29/2023 8:35 am : link
in that video, perhaps, I noticed:

1) LW - it does not appear they are actively working on reducing the cap number. Schoen seemed to shrug it off. Seems to say they have not talked about it with LW's camp.

2) Barkley - reporter asked about a contract in lieu of the depressed RB market(getting Barkley cheaper). Schoen said flat out it does not affect Barkley as he is much better than what is/was out there. It was a pretty strong reply if you watch the intensity in his facial expression.
RE: RE: RE: RE: How do you go down 200%?  
Darth Paul : 3/29/2023 9:15 am : link
In comment 16077369 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16077360 robbieballs2003 said:


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In comment 16077355 Eric on Li said:


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In comment 16077349 robbieballs2003 said:


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You can increase by 200% but if you went down by 100% that means you had zero.



i think he probably saw it the opposite way (injuries were 200% higher in 2021 than 2022) and just communicated it wrong not realizing the math changes in reverse.

5-->15 is a 200% increase
15-->5 is a 66% decrease



Correct. If he is using last year as the starting point, it is a 67% decrease in injuries. If he is comparing it to last year, then he can say there were 200% more injuries in 2021 than in 2022.



which is what i suspect an endeavoring sports science staffer put into a deck schoen was quoting from because the latter sounds better and schoen just regurgitated it incorrectly by accident.


I took that as a simple response to the question about Waller's injuries. He believes our training staff can keep him on the field, regarding his recent injury history.
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