New Synthetic Field coming, but The Hope is to Get to Grass

and the Jets injuries increase?

Aren’t they using some kind of hybrid in Green Bay? Thought I read that somewhere so I think it exists

I believe that the Giants have used grass in the Meadowlands before and that they had issues with it

In comment 16077527 gidiefor said:

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I believe that the Giants have used grass in the Meadowlands before and that they had issues with it

They did. But Mara mentioned a “hybrid” grass surface. I believe this is what GB now uses and is some king of grass blended with synthetic to make it much more durable

I always hated that...

I'd like to think technology has advanced a bit since then

In comment 16077523 robbieballs2003 said:

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and the Jets injuries increase?

That would be awesome.

Having grass would be easier if the Giants were the only team playing in their stadium. A field having to deal with not one, but two teams, is alot more wear and tear than just the one. The Jets going to Queens would be terrific for all parties.

In comment 16077532 Tom from LI said:

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I always hated that...

Exactly....biggest market in the country and you have two teams sharing a stadium. Same with LA. At least LA has a nice stadium. Yesterday, When Goodell said 'there isn't an owner in the league who does put the fans first'(I'm paraphrasing), I LOL'd. What a joke.

I go to Iceland frequently and they are growing natural grass soccer fields that are beautiful on coverted/modified acidic soil. Iceland by its nature is a very harsh environment to grow grass. Most of the landscape soil is very acidic.

I really hope they do get real grass at the stadium.

I think a team used to have a field the rolled out of the stadium for maintenance. Would it be possible to have two fields? If so they could use one for everything non football and have a phenomenal grass field for games. Stack or some other method. Just an insane idea.

2008. This is due to soil conversion methods allowing the grass to grow sturdy, thick and tough.
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In an earlier thread we discovered that there is already a Rhode Island company that installs grass at Metlife for various events. And in an article about Metlife's bid for future world cup soccer it noted that Metlife has the most experience of the applicants installing temporary grass. And we discovered that the estimated costs for this for a season of home games is roughly the cost of an extra veteran starting player per year.

Come on *billionaires* figure this out!

Oh, we can't because it's a shared facility? Why that's an excellent idea! Force the Jets to leave for their own stadium. Then we can move to grass, either per-game or permanently. Take the money you spend on turning the stadium green and put that toward grass field for gameday.

In comment 16077527 gidiefor said:

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I believe that the Giants have used grass in the Meadowlands before and that they had issues with it

it was a disaster. Tray system if i am not mistaken.

Best hope is the hybrid Mara mentions that professional soccer teams are starting to use. Obviously there needs more development im sure due to the size of the football players and how much they rip up the field.

It is used by a lot of soccer teams, as well as The Eagles, Steelers, Packers, and Broncos (at least according to Wikipedia. Steelers and Eagles are notable because they share their stadiums with college football teams, so they host probably 16+ games each year on the field.

From the Wikipedia page:

Desso GrassMaster is a sports playing field surface made of natural grass that has artificial fibres added to it. The unique part of this system is the artificial grass fibres, stuck 20 cm deep, which cover 3% of the surface. During the growing process, the roots of the natural grass mix with the man-made grass fibres to anchor the turf to product a stable, solid, and even field with better drainage and better playing comfort.

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In comment 16077568 Justlurking said:

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In comment 16077527 gidiefor said: Quote: I believe that the Giants have used grass in the Meadowlands before and that they had issues with it it was a disaster. Tray system if i am not mistaken. Best hope is the hybrid Mara mentions that professional soccer teams are starting to use. Obviously there needs more development im sure due to the size of the football players and how much they rip up the field.

My memory is the issues largely came from players getting feet stuck in the seams between the trays. I’d hope they can come up with better way to install/maintain it now

This is a hybrid. This is a cross, ah, of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. The amazing stuff about this is, that you can play two football games on it in the afternoon, take it home and just get stoned to the bejeezus-belt that night on this stuff.




If I'm Mara, I'm all over this.

But the stadium is used much more than the places mentioned above.
The interlocking plates of grass is the best idea but storage and movement is the problem also it has been mentioned in other threads players can see and feel the space been plates which is even more scary.
Everyone would lose their minds if in December getting ready for the playoffs we are playing on frozen mud.
Unless you stopped all the other games and events it a difficult problem to solve.

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I always hated that...

Hard to evict someone from the house they also own.

From the Jets point of view. Unfortunate part is it would leave the Giants with this White Elephant of a relatively new stadium that nobody likes…

Good info on the financials, although slightly dated.
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From the Jets point of view. Unfortunate part is it would leave the Giants with this White Elephant of a relatively new stadium that nobody likes… Good info on the financials, although slightly dated. New Jets Stadium. - ( New Window )

So the Jets in the hypothetical get their dream scenario and the Giants are stuck holding the bag with a stadium they never wanted thats compromised in all ways and they'd have to foot the bill on a new building to be satisfied. Nice.

In comment 16077583 larryflower37 said:

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But the stadium is used much more than the places mentioned above. The interlocking plates of grass is the best idea but storage and movement is the problem also it has been mentioned in other threads players can see and feel the space been plates which is even more scary. Everyone would lose their minds if in December getting ready for the playoffs we are playing on frozen mud. Unless you stopped all the other games and events it a difficult problem to solve.

I know this may seem like a really dumb question, but is there some reason they can't build a platform over the grass that would be used for non sporting events?

In comment 16077662 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 16077588 pivo said: Quote: From the Jets point of view. Unfortunate part is it would leave the Giants with this White Elephant of a relatively new stadium that nobody likes… Good info on the financials, although slightly dated. New Jets Stadium. - ( New Window ) So the Jets in the hypothetical get their dream scenario and the Giants are stuck holding the bag with a stadium they never wanted thats compromised in all ways and they'd have to foot the bill on a new building to be satisfied. Nice.

And the Jets (winners in the last millennium...) would get a Super Bowl, and we never will...

What's the next scapegoat?

In comment 16077524 BigBlueShock said:

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Aren’t they using some kind of hybrid in Green Bay? Thought I read that somewhere so I think it exists

Virtually every grass used in stadiums is some type of hybrid. Lambeau is only used for the Packers games, not two NFL teams. Also, don't think there are other events there during the season, such as concerts, the occasional college game, etc., that can hurt the grass.

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I know this may seem like a really dumb question, but is there some reason they can't build a platform over the grass that would be used for non sporting events?

They do, but it doesn't necessarily work well. This past pre-season, the Bears had a game shortly after a concert, and even though there was a "plastic-tiled event flooring" over the turn, the field was reportedly in bad shape for the game. (Maybe the concert was blamed for problems that already existed with the turf, I have no idea).

It has quotes from Julian Love, who was the Giants' NFLPA representative. I didn't know that about Love. Was that a factor in his departure?
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are used in Phoenix and Los Vegas, so other teams seem to be able to make that work.

The problem at MetLife is that the geniuses who designed the ugliest stadium in the NFL never thought of setting up the stadium to allow grass fields to be rolled in. If they did, we could have had two separate fields, one for each team (with an artificial field underneath them, for colleges and other events there).

Of course, they could have thought of it, and ownership for both teams might have put the kibosh on it because of the extra expense.

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In comment 16077678 BH28 said:

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What's the next scapegoat?

What's your theory?

Were it random ,our injury rates wouldn't consistently fall as far outside a normal distribution as it does.

In comment 16077532 Tom from LI said:

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I always hated that...

It's tough to evict a co-tenant. This isn't Giant Stadium anymore.

for the World Cup in 2026.

In comment 16077876 3rdWAM said:

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for the World Cup in 2026.

This is correct. And in some NFL stadiums, like SoFi, rows of seats will have to be removed to meet FIFA requirements.

Don't be so greedy have less venues so you can have for your number 1 priority, The Giants.

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In comment 16077678 BH28 said: Quote: What's the next scapegoat? What's your theory? Were it random ,our injury rates wouldn't consistently fall as far outside a normal distribution as it does.

The Jets do not have nearly the same rate..

In comment 16078197 Rolyrock said:

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Don't be so greedy have less venues so you can have for your number 1 priority, The Giants.

Greedy? It is a business(es) that pays a huge mortgage. Those other activities, besides needing a place for their product, help pay for the stadium and facilities.