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@mets
featured 19-year-old Jerry Hinsley. Hinsley selected in the Rule 5 draft from
@Pirates
made his professional debut at the big league level (0! minor league appearances) wild
with Peterson between Scherzer and Verlander. Though it was planned around Verlander pitching the home opener, it might work to the Mets favor having Peterson between those two.
Should be going Sunday. Looking forward to seeing Senga's debut.
tonight: Scherzer vs. Alcantara
Friday: Peterson vs. Luzardo
Saturday: Verlander vs. Cabrera
Sunday: Senga vs. Rogers
reports on Rogers this spring are good. From what I have heard a lot better than last year, except for one start he got hit hard. Mets just need to run up pitch counts on these guys and get them out early. As usual, Marlins have a questionable bullpen.
brewing (the brewery at CitiField, owned by Bruce Wilpon) won multiple awards at the New York State Craft Beer Competition. Their Pilsner #2 won a gold medal
brewing (the brewery at CitiField, owned by Bruce Wilpon) won multiple awards at the New York State Craft Beer Competition. Their Pilsner #2 won a gold medal
I'm not in NY anymore, are they widely distributed around the city (i.e., do you see them on tap at bars or see their cans at beer shops)?
It looks like a new place is opening up where McFadden's used to be.
brewing (the brewery at CitiField, owned by Bruce Wilpon) won multiple awards at the New York State Craft Beer Competition. Their Pilsner #2 won a gold medal
I'm not in NY anymore, are they widely distributed around the city (i.e., do you see them on tap at bars or see their cans at beer shops)?
It looks like a new place is opening up where McFadden's used to be.
Yeah. Ebbs has a tap room in Williamsburg (nice space) but their beer has pretty good distribution city wide. I was friendly with the brewery owner near my apt and he complained how they had "big money" behind them (he was completely unaware I knew who the Wilpons were). Their beer is pretty good, it's not particularly experimental "interesting" but it's very drinkable... and now award winning.
-Yeah McFadden's is being replaced by an Aramark/Mets owned space called "The K Korner", unfortunate name (and cheap looking logo(linked) but nice to have SOMETHING at the ballpark pre and post game Link - ( New Window )
brewing (the brewery at CitiField, owned by Bruce Wilpon) won multiple awards at the New York State Craft Beer Competition. Their Pilsner #2 won a gold medal
I'm not in NY anymore, are they widely distributed around the city (i.e., do you see them on tap at bars or see their cans at beer shops)?
It looks like a new place is opening up where McFadden's used to be.
K Korner is opening where McFadden’s used to be. Going on 4/29, looking forward to checking out the Korner.
Clearly the least interesting in the system. Vasil, Hamel are the only top 30 prospects on that team, Young, Nunez, McIIwain, Senger and I guess Schwartz (I'm not a believer in very lower power 1b personally) would be the others of interest.
Nimmo
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
McNeil
Canha
Vogelbach
Escobar
Narvaez
damn just had canha/escobar flipped. i like buck's lineup better so ill take that L. if vogey walks escobar has a better chance driving him in with a homer compared to canha since even extra base hits dont score vogey.
I'm not aware of the muscle that they are talking about. Hearing Verlander talk about it, it seems related to a lat? Is this just a very minor lat issue that they are hoping to prevent turning into something like Scherzer had last year?
what happens with ankle/foot injuries this year amongst pitchers and infielders. Imagine having tens of thousands of reps knowing exactly where a bag is, and now the edge or corner of the bag is not where you think it is. Maybe it won't be a big deal, but I can see a potential for injuries to tick up, particularly when having to run to the base, step on the base, and catch a baseball at the same time.
I haven't seen the Fried injury and not saying that it's at all related to this, just a random thought.
You want to get excited about a new season and your star reliever gets hurt in the worthless WBC and your star pitcher gets hurt doing who know what (I'm blaming it on Kate).
but there becomes a point where you don't need anymore character. I was 6 in '86, so that doesn't count for me as I wasn't a fan then. I would like to see a title in my lifetime
Descalfini was the only one to be less than the bulk of two months. He pitched 33 innings that season. Not sure the extent of his injuries that year, but rotator cuff is the only injury mentioned below, so it's kind of confusing. Link - ( New Window )
and it may not be worth much since players are sometimes notoriously the worst at evaluating their own injuries, but Verlander said if it was a playoff game he'd pitch.
But his interview really does make it sound pretty benign.
Of course, its the Mets, who described DeGrom as just missing a few starts after the mid way point in 2021...and he was done for the year. Link - ( New Window )
Descalfini was the only one to be less than the bulk of two months. He pitched 33 innings that season. Not sure the extent of his injuries that year, but rotator cuff is the only injury mentioned below, so it's kind of confusing. Link - ( New Window )
Was placed on the IL on 7/23/2020 with what was termed a "(mild right teres major strain" per the tweet below Link - ( New Window )
Descalfini was the only one to be less than the bulk of two months. He pitched 33 innings that season. Not sure the extent of his injuries that year, but rotator cuff is the only injury mentioned below, so it's kind of confusing. Link - ( New Window )
Was placed on the IL on 7/23/2020 with what was termed a "(mild right teres major strain" per the tweet below Link - ( New Window )
Yeah, I got that part. 10 days missed would put him back the end of August. I know it was the COVID shortened season, but 33 innings while missing only 10 days to injury doesn't add up
but there becomes a point where you don't need anymore character. I was 6 in '86, so that doesn't count for me as I wasn't a fan then. I would like to see a title in my lifetime
Stay fit and eat healthy. Because you might have to live a long life for that to happen.
Already went deep, first plate appearance of the season!
I'm hoping to get Francisco Alvarez late in the draft. We play two catchers, and I think Alvarez will be the regular catcher by the 2nd half of the season for the Mets, at least I hope so.
Already went deep, first plate appearance of the season!
I'm hoping to get Francisco Alvarez late in the draft. We play two catchers, and I think Alvarez will be the regular catcher by the 2nd half of the season for the Mets, at least I hope so.
Whoops, meant to post this in the fantasy baseball draft thread.
sucks but if it's just 3 or 4 megill starts it's manageable
do they have to burn a call up for megill over this?
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Prior to first pitch of the Mets’ opening day game against the Marlins, the team announced that veteran starting pitcher Justin Verlander will be placed on the 15-day IL after he was diagnosed with a low-grade strain of the teres major muscle in his right shoulder.
The 40-year-old three-time Cy Young winner would be lucky to miss just the minimum 15 days, according to the Pro Baseball Docs.
The teres major muscle is supremely important to the pitching motion and the Mets are likely to be cautious with Verlander given his advanced age.
A return near the end of April would be great news for the newly acquired righty.
Verlander made 28 starts for the Astros last season, logging a career-best 1.75 ERA with an 18-4 record in 175 innings and 185 strikeouts.
do they have to burn a call up for megill over this?
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Prior to first pitch of the Mets’ opening day game against the Marlins, the team announced that veteran starting pitcher Justin Verlander will be placed on the 15-day IL after he was diagnosed with a low-grade strain of the teres major muscle in his right shoulder.
The 40-year-old three-time Cy Young winner would be lucky to miss just the minimum 15 days, according to the Pro Baseball Docs.
The teres major muscle is supremely important to the pitching motion and the Mets are likely to be cautious with Verlander given his advanced age.
A return near the end of April would be great news for the newly acquired righty.
Verlander made 28 starts for the Astros last season, logging a career-best 1.75 ERA with an 18-4 record in 175 innings and 185 strikeouts.
Justin Verlander Injury: Mets' SP Heading to IL With Shoulder Strain - ( New Window )
would be nice to add on some runs. they've had some hard hit balls off alcantara, the bottom of the order needs to work his pitch count up for the 3rd time through.
last 3 batted balls off alcantara over 100 mph before that out
canha and alonso were the only 2 spots in the lineup without a hit. and canha actually hit a ball 108.2 mph which was literally harder than any ball he hit last year.
canha, vogelbach, escobar, narvaez extended the lineup, combined to draw 2 walks and hit 2 singles, and even though it's just game 1 against someone like alcantara that's notable.
but let's say the Angels immediately shit the bed and by June they're out of contention and likely not getting back into it.
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
sorry Pjac that's a no for me dog.
Why trade the moon while you can just spend 3 months later.
I think it's just Ohtani. And that's going to be interesting how that develops. If the Angels are out of it by July, there's some value in trading for him to hopefully sign and extension prior to him hitting FA.
I absolutely want them to keep Baty. And Alvarez as well, but I have to assume that the negotiations are going to start with Alvarez. Now, the Angels' #1 prospect, Logan O'Hoppe, just graduated to the bigs and he's a catcher. So if you're the Angels, one of them would have to play DH, I suppose, or get moved in a subsequent deal.
But I would trade Alvarez, Mauricio, Ramirez as a start to get Ohtani. Probably would need a little more, perhaps Vientos. But as for Baty, if they demand him in the return, I would wait until FA for Shohei.
Yeah, hard to argue with that. The Mets may be a little star crossed with injury luck, but this isn’t an example of that. It’s a very real possibility when you sign a 40-yr old pitcher.
canha, escobar, and vogey are all potentially in walk years
canha/escobar have team options but if the young guys are breaking through (and they spend 500m on ohtani) those probably get declined. narvaez has a player option too so spots will be there for the young guys when they want them.
any trade for ohtani + trout has to be considered. they are 2 of the best players in the sport, and arguably the 2 best. but very few teams can afford trout's 280m+ and extending Ohtani, and trout has a full ntc so it probably wont be the bidding war soto was. big return certainly or else they don't do it, but dont think the angels have the leverage to gut a system to that degree. tactically i think it would be simpler and they'd possibly get more by dealing them in separate trades because ohtani as a rental could have a very wide market and for trout there may only be a handful of teams he's willing to go and have interest.
you would think at this point it would be malpractice for ohtani's agent to allow him to extend before getting to a meeting with cohen but from the mets side i guess you have to view lad and some others as a threat and at least try to block someone getting the inside track on him at a rental price. and if separately trout were on the market and willing to come to nym, you'd have to also give that real consideration even if it's a big $ risk due to age/injury.
RE: RE: RE: Here is a stupid crazy trade suggestion
but let's say the Angels immediately shit the bed and by June they're out of contention and likely not getting back into it.
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
sorry Pjac that's a no for me dog.
Why trade the moon while you can just spend 3 months later.
Maybe the Mets win the WS this year with a half season of Trout and Ohtani filling the DH role and pitching every 5th day.
If the Mets stay close to the break and the Angels shit the bed it's a bold move.
no doubt it's a lot, but the Mets don't have many lineup places for Baty, Vientos or even Maurico (in the infield). Parada slots in for Alvarez.
If the Mets don't at least strong-side platoon Baty at third by June 1st, I'd be really disappointed. Escobar would be a natural DH against lefties, something that this team could use, he'd probably be better in that spot over Pham.
RE: canha, escobar, and vogey are all potentially in walk years
canha/escobar have team options but if the young guys are breaking through (and they spend 500m on ohtani) those probably get declined. narvaez has a player option too so spots will be there for the young guys when they want them.
any trade for ohtani + trout has to be considered. they are 2 of the best players in the sport, and arguably the 2 best. but very few teams can afford trout's 280m+ and extending Ohtani, and trout has a full ntc so it probably wont be the bidding war soto was. big return certainly or else they don't do it, but dont think the angels have the leverage to gut a system to that degree. tactically i think it would be simpler and they'd possibly get more by dealing them in separate trades because ohtani as a rental could have a very wide market and for trout there may only be a handful of teams he's willing to go and have interest.
you would think at this point it would be malpractice for ohtani's agent to allow him to extend before getting to a meeting with cohen but from the mets side i guess you have to view lad and some others as a threat and at least try to block someone getting the inside track on him at a rental price. and if separately trout were on the market and willing to come to nym, you'd have to also give that real consideration even if it's a big $ risk due to age/injury.
I agree, there is zero chance Ohtani signs an extension before testing the FA market. Even if you offer him the biggest contract in FA, he’d probably get more on the open market.
@mets
featured 19-year-old Jerry Hinsley. Hinsley selected in the Rule 5 draft from
@Pirates
made his professional debut at the big league level (0! minor league appearances) wild
And some old friends...
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Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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2m
Sources: Mets right-handed pitcher Bryce Montes de Oca had Tommy John surgery.
This is the second TJS for the 26-year-old that also had it back in 2013 when he was in High School.
His stuff looked absolutely incredible early this spring...
Rookie Mike Pelfrey level 2-seamer (before Mets ruined him)
This....or reinforce the notion that the Mets are cursed somehow!
assume we'll get the regular lineup?
nimmo
marte
lindor
alonso
mcneil
escobar
vogey
canha
narvaez
Should be going Sunday. Looking forward to seeing Senga's debut.
Friday: Peterson vs. Luzardo
Saturday: Verlander vs. Cabrera
Sunday: Senga vs. Rogers
reports on Rogers this spring are good. From what I have heard a lot better than last year, except for one start he got hit hard. Mets just need to run up pitch counts on these guys and get them out early. As usual, Marlins have a questionable bullpen.
I'm not in NY anymore, are they widely distributed around the city (i.e., do you see them on tap at bars or see their cans at beer shops)?
It looks like a new place is opening up where McFadden's used to be.
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brewing (the brewery at CitiField, owned by Bruce Wilpon) won multiple awards at the New York State Craft Beer Competition. Their Pilsner #2 won a gold medal
I'm not in NY anymore, are they widely distributed around the city (i.e., do you see them on tap at bars or see their cans at beer shops)?
It looks like a new place is opening up where McFadden's used to be.
Yeah. Ebbs has a tap room in Williamsburg (nice space) but their beer has pretty good distribution city wide. I was friendly with the brewery owner near my apt and he complained how they had "big money" behind them (he was completely unaware I knew who the Wilpons were). Their beer is pretty good, it's not particularly experimental "interesting" but it's very drinkable... and now award winning.
-Yeah McFadden's is being replaced by an Aramark/Mets owned space called "The K Korner", unfortunate name (and cheap looking logo(linked) but nice to have SOMETHING at the ballpark pre and post game
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brewing (the brewery at CitiField, owned by Bruce Wilpon) won multiple awards at the New York State Craft Beer Competition. Their Pilsner #2 won a gold medal
I'm not in NY anymore, are they widely distributed around the city (i.e., do you see them on tap at bars or see their cans at beer shops)?
It looks like a new place is opening up where McFadden's used to be.
K Korner is opening where McFadden’s used to be. Going on 4/29, looking forward to checking out the Korner.
The logo looks like a stock image and my guess is they pivoted from another tenant they had in mind
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He did not. He's with Syracuse along with Baty, Alvarez, Megill etc.
Love our Mets fam here. Lets f go Mets and almost time to fillet some fish.
Mets baseball is back!
C-Alvarez
2b-Mendick
3B-Baty
1b-Vientos
SS-Mauricio
OF-Cedrola
OF-Cortes
OF-Lee
SP-Megill
C-Alvarez
2b-Mendick
3B-Baty
1b-Vientos
SS-Mauricio
OF-Cedrola
OF-Cortes
OF-Lee
SP-Megill
I may try and go to Polar Park tomorrow and see the opener if I can get away from work and get tickets at face.
If not, definitely plan to go in July. Closer to me than Pawtucket was and Polar Park is really nice. Hopefully with a different Mets lineup.
First class, Neckbone. I’m also feeling nostalgic. This day always reminds me of Gary Carter’s opening day HR
I was just listing the projected starters by position. They haven't released any lineup etc.
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probably to give him a lot of ABs.
I was just listing the projected starters by position. They haven't released any lineup etc.
Oh, ok. Positions skipped around a bit, and the rest made sense. My mistake.
-Syracuse
Mauricio
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Butto
Hartwig
Orze
AA
Hamel
Vasil
Santos
Young
A+
Ramirez
Parada
Lugo
Consuegra
Scott
Tidwell
De Los Santos
Juarez
St. Lucie TBD but clearly Jett Williams is with St. Lucie
Clearly the least interesting in the system. Vasil, Hamel are the only top 30 prospects on that team, Young, Nunez, McIIwain, Senger and I guess Schwartz (I'm not a believer in very lower power 1b personally) would be the others of interest.
#LFGM
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
McNeil
Canha
Vogelbach
Escobar
Narvaez
Marte
Lindor
Alonso
McNeil
Canha
Vogelbach
Escobar
Narvaez
damn just had canha/escobar flipped. i like buck's lineup better so ill take that L. if vogey walks escobar has a better chance driving him in with a homer compared to canha since even extra base hits dont score vogey.
Of course! G-ddamn fucking injuries...
Ridiculous. Low grade teres major strain.
Nice jinx
This year it didn't even take until the first pitch
Unbelievable.
It’s Megill
I'm not aware of the muscle that they are talking about. Hearing Verlander talk about it, it seems related to a lat? Is this just a very minor lat issue that they are hoping to prevent turning into something like Scherzer had last year?
Max Fried coming out of game after injuring himself trying to cover 1st base though....
I haven't seen the Fried injury and not saying that it's at all related to this, just a random thought.
You want to get excited about a new season and your star reliever gets hurt in the worthless WBC and your star pitcher gets hurt doing who know what (I'm blaming it on Kate).
Help....
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Of course, its the Mets, who described DeGrom as just missing a few starts after the mid way point in 2021...and he was done for the year.
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Was placed on the IL on 7/23/2020 with what was termed a "(mild right teres major strain" per the tweet below
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Descalfini was the only one to be less than the bulk of two months. He pitched 33 innings that season. Not sure the extent of his injuries that year, but rotator cuff is the only injury mentioned below, so it's kind of confusing. Link - ( New Window )
Was placed on the IL on 7/23/2020 with what was termed a "(mild right teres major strain" per the tweet below Link - ( New Window )
Yeah, I got that part. 10 days missed would put him back the end of August. I know it was the COVID shortened season, but 33 innings while missing only 10 days to injury doesn't add up
I think Trevor Williams is their #2 or #3.
Building a good farm though.
Stay fit and eat healthy. Because you might have to live a long life for that to happen.
I'm hoping to get Francisco Alvarez late in the draft. We play two catchers, and I think Alvarez will be the regular catcher by the 2nd half of the season for the Mets, at least I hope so.
I'm hoping to get Francisco Alvarez late in the draft. We play two catchers, and I think Alvarez will be the regular catcher by the 2nd half of the season for the Mets, at least I hope so.
Whoops, meant to post this in the fantasy baseball draft thread.
The 40-year-old three-time Cy Young winner would be lucky to miss just the minimum 15 days, according to the Pro Baseball Docs.
The teres major muscle is supremely important to the pitching motion and the Mets are likely to be cautious with Verlander given his advanced age.
A return near the end of April would be great news for the newly acquired righty.
Verlander made 28 starts for the Astros last season, logging a career-best 1.75 ERA with an 18-4 record in 175 innings and 185 strikeouts.
Justin Verlander Injury: Mets' SP Heading to IL With Shoulder Strain - ( New Window )
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Prior to first pitch of the Mets’ opening day game against the Marlins, the team announced that veteran starting pitcher Justin Verlander will be placed on the 15-day IL after he was diagnosed with a low-grade strain of the teres major muscle in his right shoulder.
The 40-year-old three-time Cy Young winner would be lucky to miss just the minimum 15 days, according to the Pro Baseball Docs.
The teres major muscle is supremely important to the pitching motion and the Mets are likely to be cautious with Verlander given his advanced age.
A return near the end of April would be great news for the newly acquired righty.
Verlander made 28 starts for the Astros last season, logging a career-best 1.75 ERA with an 18-4 record in 175 innings and 185 strikeouts.
Justin Verlander Injury: Mets' SP Heading to IL With Shoulder Strain - ( New Window )
It burns an option.
Got a tough break with Cade Cavalli undergoing TJS
D.J. Short
@djshort
Uh oh, he's gonna block the pitch clock on Twitter.
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Chelsea Janes
@chelsea_janes
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37m
First pitch clock violation in Major League history belongs to Marcus Stroman.
As much money as the team spent this offseason, I wish they could've worked something out with him.
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if he cant pitch here at least he can still hopefully beat philly.
As much money as the team spent this offseason, I wish they could've worked something out with him.
didnt seem like he had interest in staying.
nice turn by lindor doubling up met killer jean segura.
I think he would've stayed if we offered what Texas did. Pivoting to verlander was a really nice plan B, hopefully Mets luck doesn't ruin it.
Degrom intentionally tanking vs Philly to fuck us over.
Hopefully Scherzer can go deep versus a bad MIA lineup because Alcantra is a stud and can go all 9.
Non home run run, probably +250000 lol
in the 3rd, given up 4 runs, a HR, a 3B, 2 2B's, has K'd 5
canha - 108
vogelbach - 101.5
3rd time through the order next inning.
He sure did. Nice win.
canha, vogelbach, escobar, narvaez extended the lineup, combined to draw 2 walks and hit 2 singles, and even though it's just game 1 against someone like alcantara that's notable.
overall mets 12 hard hit balls to 5 for miami.
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
sorry Pjac that's a no for me dog.
Why trade the moon while you can just spend 3 months later.
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but let's say the Angels immediately shit the bed and by June they're out of contention and likely not getting back into it.
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
sorry Pjac that's a no for me dog.
Why trade the moon while you can just spend 3 months later.
I think it's just Ohtani. And that's going to be interesting how that develops. If the Angels are out of it by July, there's some value in trading for him to hopefully sign and extension prior to him hitting FA.
I absolutely want them to keep Baty. And Alvarez as well, but I have to assume that the negotiations are going to start with Alvarez. Now, the Angels' #1 prospect, Logan O'Hoppe, just graduated to the bigs and he's a catcher. So if you're the Angels, one of them would have to play DH, I suppose, or get moved in a subsequent deal.
But I would trade Alvarez, Mauricio, Ramirez as a start to get Ohtani. Probably would need a little more, perhaps Vientos. But as for Baty, if they demand him in the return, I would wait until FA for Shohei.
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but let's say the Angels immediately shit the bed and by June they're out of contention and likely not getting back into it.
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
sorry Pjac that's a no for me dog.
Why trade the moon while you can just spend 3 months later.
Maybe the Mets win the WS this year with a half season of Trout and Ohtani filling the DH role and pitching every 5th day.
If the Mets stay close to the break and the Angels shit the bed it's a bold move.
no doubt it's a lot, but the Mets don't have many lineup places for Baty, Vientos or even Maurico (in the infield). Parada slots in for Alvarez.
Yeah, hard to argue with that. The Mets may be a little star crossed with injury luck, but this isn’t an example of that. It’s a very real possibility when you sign a 40-yr old pitcher.
any trade for ohtani + trout has to be considered. they are 2 of the best players in the sport, and arguably the 2 best. but very few teams can afford trout's 280m+ and extending Ohtani, and trout has a full ntc so it probably wont be the bidding war soto was. big return certainly or else they don't do it, but dont think the angels have the leverage to gut a system to that degree. tactically i think it would be simpler and they'd possibly get more by dealing them in separate trades because ohtani as a rental could have a very wide market and for trout there may only be a handful of teams he's willing to go and have interest.
you would think at this point it would be malpractice for ohtani's agent to allow him to extend before getting to a meeting with cohen but from the mets side i guess you have to view lad and some others as a threat and at least try to block someone getting the inside track on him at a rental price. and if separately trout were on the market and willing to come to nym, you'd have to also give that real consideration even if it's a big $ risk due to age/injury.
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but let's say the Angels immediately shit the bed and by June they're out of contention and likely not getting back into it.
And they know Ohtani is likely gone, and you could acquire Trout and Ohtani as a package deal.
Would you trade:
Alvarez
Baty
Vientos
Ramirez
Mauricio
5 mostly top 100-ish prospects including Alvarez who is top 5 and Baty top 35.
Would you do it (with or without time to negotiate an Ohtani extension)?
Would it be enough to get the Angels to move them both?
sorry Pjac that's a no for me dog.
Why trade the moon while you can just spend 3 months later.
Maybe the Mets win the WS this year with a half season of Trout and Ohtani filling the DH role and pitching every 5th day.
If the Mets stay close to the break and the Angels shit the bed it's a bold move.
no doubt it's a lot, but the Mets don't have many lineup places for Baty, Vientos or even Maurico (in the infield). Parada slots in for Alvarez.
If the Mets don't at least strong-side platoon Baty at third by June 1st, I'd be really disappointed. Escobar would be a natural DH against lefties, something that this team could use, he'd probably be better in that spot over Pham.
any trade for ohtani + trout has to be considered. they are 2 of the best players in the sport, and arguably the 2 best. but very few teams can afford trout's 280m+ and extending Ohtani, and trout has a full ntc so it probably wont be the bidding war soto was. big return certainly or else they don't do it, but dont think the angels have the leverage to gut a system to that degree. tactically i think it would be simpler and they'd possibly get more by dealing them in separate trades because ohtani as a rental could have a very wide market and for trout there may only be a handful of teams he's willing to go and have interest.
you would think at this point it would be malpractice for ohtani's agent to allow him to extend before getting to a meeting with cohen but from the mets side i guess you have to view lad and some others as a threat and at least try to block someone getting the inside track on him at a rental price. and if separately trout were on the market and willing to come to nym, you'd have to also give that real consideration even if it's a big $ risk due to age/injury.
I agree, there is zero chance Ohtani signs an extension before testing the FA market. Even if you offer him the biggest contract in FA, he’d probably get more on the open market.