And he had a new customer come to him for help. the customer had some unique Eagle apparel on and asked him where he got it. He says he works for the Eagles on the Cap committee. My son asks him "everyone says that the cap is what you make it and it is not a real number" He replied that working on the Cap is a bitch. that his committee consisted of 30 adults all trying to make it work for the Eagles. My son then asked him if any Eastern Division teams were making any great moves concerning the CAP going forward and he said the Giants had just make a great deal with signing Jones and the Eagles would love to he able to sign Hurts to the same contract. He said in the immediate future Jones's contract will look like a huge bargain for the giants.
I respectfully disagree on Hurts being a better QB than DJ. Jones has a better arm and is bigger. Hurts is blessed with a better line (at the moment) and receivers like Smith and Brown to throw to.
Put Jones on the Eagles and Hurts on the Giants in 2022 and let’s see Hurts get the same accolades.
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Hurt is going to command much more coin than DJ. And rightfully so IMO. Hurts is a better QB. Of course I'd love to see Jones with Hurts' weapons.
I respectfully disagree on Hurts being a better QB than DJ. Jones has a better arm and is bigger. Hurts is blessed with a better line (at the moment) and receivers like Smith and Brown to throw to.
Put Jones on the Eagles and Hurts on the Giants in 2022 and let’s see Hurts get the same accolades.
Hurts also had Dallas Goedert at TE. Forgot about him.
Good thing the cap department doesn't count against the cap
How cool would it be to casually know someone with that kind of inside info? Like sitting next to that guy at your kids pee wee soccer games?
I'd love to see Jones with Hurts' offensive line. 😉
If not, he and his contract is blocking it from happening.
I hope and still believe he can grow into a Super Bowl Champion QB!
He’s the Michael Jordan of our Generation. Just ask his head coach.
#RemindMeBot in 5 years that Hurts is a better QB than anyone Daboll is still coaching in NY.
If not, he and his contract is blocking it from happening.
Yeah, ah, no.
The reality is Hurts is in a better situation, he's making the most of it, and he's going to get close to twice the guaranteed money Jones did.
But don't shed any tears for Jones. If he plays well the next two years, he's getting a new mega deal. The Giants aren't going to rip Jones off. There's no outcome where Jones leads the team as perennial contender as a bargain.
Probably my rose colored glasses talking but I’m not sold on Hirts being a better qb..guy was playing with an absolute fortress in front of him with one of the better skill group in the NFL. I’m not knocking Hurts, he did impress me more than I expected he would so hats off to him, but that eagles offense as a whole was an absolute unit..I’m sure a lot of QBs were envious of the position Hurts was in(I was a huge AJ Brown fan before he became an Eagle).
The reality is Hurts is in a better situation, he's making the most of it, and he's going to get close to twice the guaranteed money Jones did.
But don't shed any tears for Jones. If he plays well the next two years, he's getting a new mega deal. The Giants aren't going to rip Jones off. There's no outcome where Jones leads the team as perennial contender as a bargain.
I agree, Hurts probably most impressed me in the superbowl, he came to play.
And all this will only cost them $20m in dead cap in ‘26. That’s incredible value and impressive cap work by their 30 capologists.
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Hurt is going to command much more coin than DJ. And rightfully so IMO. Hurts is a better QB. Of course I'd love to see Jones with Hurts' weapons.
I'd love to see Jones with Hurts' offensive line. 😉
I'd just take Jason Kelce in front of him at this point for phucques sake... lol
Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB underperformed, then use the same logic in reverse as to why the other team's QB played well, before suggesting that he’s just not better than the Giants’ QB.
If Hurts and Jones had both been FAs this year, who do you think get the bigger contract?
And if any NFL team (other than KC, Cincy, Buffalo or LAC) could take Hurts or Jones, do you honestly think that any team (including the Giants) would choose Jones?
Let’s give credit where credit is due. Jones can still improve, but right now, Hurts is the better QB.
Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB underperformed, then use the same logic in reverse as to why the other team's QB played well, before suggesting that he’s just not better than the Giants’ QB.
If Hurts and Jones had both been FAs this year, who do you think get the bigger contract?
And if any NFL team (other than KC, Cincy, Buffalo or LAC) could take Hurts or Jones, do you honestly think that any team (including the Giants) would choose Jones?
Let’s give credit where credit is due. Jones can still improve, but right now, Hurts is the better QB.
You think Daniel underperformed this past season?
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Hurt is going to command much more coin than DJ. And rightfully so IMO. Hurts is a better QB. Of course I'd love to see Jones with Hurts' weapons.
I respectfully disagree on Hurts being a better QB than DJ. Jones has a better arm and is bigger. Hurts is blessed with a better line (at the moment) and receivers like Smith and Brown to throw to.
Put Jones on the Eagles and Hurts on the Giants in 2022 and let’s see Hurts get the same accolades.
I understand your point but Jones is not a better QB than Hurts and its not particularly close. Also disagree on the arm. Besides being taller, Hurts is better at every facet of the game.
Jones has to play well for that deal to be value. There is a chance that its a steal if he plays well. The market will be reset by Hurts/Herbert/Burrow. Those will be in the $50-$60M range with bigger guarantees. Jones deal will be an afterthought at that point. But he has to play well (which I think he will!)
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and better WRs, but this is typical of how BBI compares the Giants’ QB to other team’s QBs.
Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB underperformed, then use the same logic in reverse as to why the other team's QB played well, before suggesting that he’s just not better than the Giants’ QB.
If Hurts and Jones had both been FAs this year, who do you think get the bigger contract?
And if any NFL team (other than KC, Cincy, Buffalo or LAC) could take Hurts or Jones, do you honestly think that any team (including the Giants) would choose Jones?
Let’s give credit where credit is due. Jones can still improve, but right now, Hurts is the better QB.
You think Daniel underperformed this past season?
In that sentence from my previous post, I was not making a judgement on Jones’s play. I used the word “underperformed” but I also could have used the phrase, “numbers weren’t as good” as in… “Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB’s numbers weren’t as good”.
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Every second contract is a reflection of the player and his surroundings. If anyone watched the Super Bowl and couldn't see Hurts is a special player, jokes on you.
The reality is Hurts is in a better situation, he's making the most of it, and he's going to get close to twice the guaranteed money Jones did.
But don't shed any tears for Jones. If he plays well the next two years, he's getting a new mega deal. The Giants aren't going to rip Jones off. There's no outcome where Jones leads the team as perennial contender as a bargain.
I agree, Hurts probably most impressed me in the superbowl, he came to play.
Except for THE FUMBLE that lost them the game...Bwaaaaaaahhaaahaaahaaa!!
My sympathies as well
Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB underperformed, then use the same logic in reverse as to why the other team's QB played well, before suggesting that he’s just not better than the Giants’ QB.
If Hurts and Jones had both been FAs this year, who do you think get the bigger contract?
And if any NFL team (other than KC, Cincy, Buffalo or LAC) could take Hurts or Jones, do you honestly think that any team (including the Giants) would choose Jones?
Let’s give credit where credit is due. Jones can still improve, but right now, Hurts is the better QB.
If you were truly being objective what you would say is you have no way of knowing, as their situations are too dissimilar..and that would be fair. Categorically stating it as fact one way or the other would be wrong. I wouldn’t say Hurts is better or Jones is better..I’d say it’s a muddy eval based on the number of variables between the two..that would actually be the fairest stance to take.
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and better WRs, but this is typical of how BBI compares the Giants’ QB to other team’s QBs.
Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB underperformed, then use the same logic in reverse as to why the other team's QB played well, before suggesting that he’s just not better than the Giants’ QB.
If Hurts and Jones had both been FAs this year, who do you think get the bigger contract?
And if any NFL team (other than KC, Cincy, Buffalo or LAC) could take Hurts or Jones, do you honestly think that any team (including the Giants) would choose Jones?
Let’s give credit where credit is due. Jones can still improve, but right now, Hurts is the better QB.
You think Daniel underperformed this past season?
In that sentence from my previous post, I was not making a judgement on Jones’s play. I used the word “underperformed” but I also could have used the phrase, “numbers weren’t as good” as in… “Posters make excuses as to why the Giants' QB’s numbers weren’t as good”.
I don’t make evaluations of players, especially quarterbacks, in the vacuum of statistics.
For me, it s hard to know how Jones would play surrounded by Hurts circumstances or vice versa.
By the same token I won’t state with certainty that Hurts is the better quarterback because talent surrounding that position certainly is a major factor in the performance; I m not sure many fans and analysts can separate the two.
I don’t see Hurts as being more gifted than Daniel, in fact I think it s pretty clear Daniel is the more accurate passer.
But the fact remains that Hurts outperformed Jones this season, for whatever reason, but I don’t think Daniel need apologize for his performance. Getting this team to 10 wins, including a playoff win, being the main reason they got there, is not to be dismissed
I totally disagree with the assessment shared elsewhere on this thread, that Hurts is the superior quarterback and it isn’t close.