pulling the trigger on this, but the ticket prices on the secondary market seemed unnecessarily steep. i'm going to wait for the playoffs. fingers crossed the devs can keep the lead in this one. home ice would be terrific.
They need to make more of an effort to get hits on the Devils defenders.
Igor once again very sharp and keeping them in the game.
Devils do have impressive speed .
They are not going to be an easy team to play in the first round.
The Rangers have big problems if they play the Devils
Their defensemen have to backtrack to cover the Devils' speed so they can't join the forecheck or pinch in. They're pretty much staying on the blue line
It's something. The arenas, players, coaches, uniforms and even world leaders all change but one things for sure, every single Rangers game in New Jersey against the Devils looks exactly the same.
they've been sort of struggling lately and it wouldn't be a good look for their psyche to blow 2nd to the Rangers after being ahead of them all year. I don't think home ice in their playoff series is that big of a deal as I don't think either team fears going into the other's building. Devs played their tightest smartest game in weeks.
they've been sort of struggling lately and it wouldn't be a good look for their psyche to blow 2nd to the Rangers after being ahead of them all year. I don't think home ice in their playoff series is that big of a deal as I don't think either team fears going into the other's building. Devs played their tightest smartest game in weeks.
The Devils desperately needed that win. Not only to stay ahead of the Rangers in the standing but for the confidence boost. They were 4-4-2 over their past 10 games and obviously the last thing they want is to head into the postseason playing their worst hockey of the year.
they've been sort of struggling lately and it wouldn't be a good look for their psyche to blow 2nd to the Rangers after being ahead of them all year. I don't think home ice in their playoff series is that big of a deal as I don't think either team fears going into the other's building. Devs played their tightest smartest game in weeks.
Devils outplayed the Rangers badly. A great Igor performance kept it close
they've been sort of struggling lately and it wouldn't be a good look for their psyche to blow 2nd to the Rangers after being ahead of them all year. I don't think home ice in their playoff series is that big of a deal as I don't think either team fears going into the other's building. Devs played their tightest smartest game in weeks.
The Devils desperately needed that win. Not only to stay ahead of the Rangers in the standing but for the confidence boost. They were 4-4-2 over their past 10 games and obviously the last thing they want is to head into the postseason playing their worst hockey of the year.
Carolina lost as well, they have been slightly worse than the Devils over the last 10. With a game in hand, the points lead is somehow only 1 point. Be interesting how things shape up by the end of the weekend with both teams doing back to backs.
I went to the game - a friend got sick and couldn't make it and gave me the ticket.
1. Hughes is the second most exciting player I've seen in person (past ten years) behind McDavid.
2. Devils dominated the Rangers. This game never felt close.
3. Kane sucks.
4. Harper sucks.
I went to the game - a friend got sick and couldn't make it and gave me the ticket.
1. Hughes is the second most exciting player I've seen in person (past ten years) behind McDavid.
2. Devils dominated the Rangers. This game never felt close.
3. Kane sucks.
4. Harper sucks.
I'm going to the Washington game on Sunday. See you and the media down there.
So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
I didn't think they were that bad last night. Definitely a step slow
especially in the 1st period. Definitely not their best showing recently but not terrible.
I wasn't fan of bringing Kane here and I'm still not sold. He's been ok. Looks slow, makes a lot of dumb plays with the puck. And not shooting enough. Hopefully it's just the adjustment period. I like Tarasenko's game A LOT. 235 lbs and fast driving to the net. That guy is made for the playoffs.
Agree Lindgren is sorely missed. They need him back badly.
So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
I disagree.
NYR are the epitome of how to build a playoff winner.
starts in net, extends to specials, add in some skill, grit leadership and chemistry.
no one has all those elements like the Rangers.
If they lose it will be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Only thing I would have done differently (and it's not 2020 hindsight I said this all along) is I would have put Lindgren on LTIR and added a veteran D. A Savard, Edmundson, Gavrikov type. NYR D depth is struggling and it's not who Rangers fans pick on, it's been Schneider mostly.
Anyway, NYR are top 3 cup favorite for me, right up there with BOS and CAR. Maybe a slight notch below BOS but right up with CAR. NJD I put slightly lower just because I am not convinced Vanecek (or Blackwood) can win in the playoffs consistently.
So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
I disagree.
NYR are the epitome of how to build a playoff winner.
starts in net, extends to specials, add in some skill, grit leadership and chemistry.
no one has all those elements like the Rangers.
If they lose it will be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Only thing I would have done differently (and it's not 2020 hindsight I said this all along) is I would have put Lindgren on LTIR and added a veteran D. A Savard, Edmundson, Gavrikov type. NYR D depth is struggling and it's not who Rangers fans pick on, it's been Schneider mostly.
Anyway, NYR are top 3 cup favorite for me, right up there with BOS and CAR. Maybe a slight notch below BOS but right up with CAR. NJD I put slightly lower just because I am not convinced Vanecek (or Blackwood) can win in the playoffs consistently.
I agree with you pj. but if Lindgren doesn't come back as his usual self I think they will have a problem advancing. Fox misses him badly, and overall they need his grit and toughness. He's got the meanest eyes I've ever seen when he's on the ice.
So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
I disagree.
NYR are the epitome of how to build a playoff winner.
starts in net, extends to specials, add in some skill, grit leadership and chemistry.
no one has all those elements like the Rangers.
If they lose it will be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Only thing I would have done differently (and it's not 2020 hindsight I said this all along) is I would have put Lindgren on LTIR and added a veteran D. A Savard, Edmundson, Gavrikov type. NYR D depth is struggling and it's not who Rangers fans pick on, it's been Schneider mostly.
Anyway, NYR are top 3 cup favorite for me, right up there with BOS and CAR. Maybe a slight notch below BOS but right up with CAR. NJD I put slightly lower just because I am not convinced Vanecek (or Blackwood) can win in the playoffs consistently.
If they play the Devils, they won't get out of the first round. This is NOT a playoff hockey team. Grit? Defense? Playing up the boards? Grinding? Sorry..it's a stretch pass / tic tac toe offense that doesn't shoot nor get in front of the net enough to buy greasy goals. And they turn the puck over like a pee wee team.
It's ok to talk truth and facts. I want them to win it all. Tampa showed last year that all you need to do to the Rangers is be tough. The Devils showed it last night. Rangers are going nowhere again.
That's your opinion why they lost that series after being up 2 - 0 - TBL just turned on the toughness and board play and the Rangers turtled?
They do turn the puck over, but turnovers in hockey are a funny thing. In order to turn the puck over you need to have the puck. So players like Panarin do turn it over a lot (too much to be clear) but it's something you live with because it's on his stick so much. Know who has the fewest turnovers in the league? Anaheim, St. Louis, Nashville, San Jose, - I wouldn't trade places with them. It doesn't mean be happy about the turnovers, you do want to limit them, but it's not something I'd judge in a vacuum (and I'm not saying you were, just pointing out it's not a black and white stat like in football).
I want the Rangers to win the Cup so bad but let’s be realistic
When the playoffs start the physicality really gets ramped up and I don’t see this team excelling in that area.
My problem is all world Panarin will become a wallflower again…see Tampa series last year.
Pairing him with Kane will show big time defensive deficiency with respect to odd man rushes.
Really worried that Lindgren has a serious shoulder separation. Teams will really target him with hard hits . He didn’t even last more than 1 hit when he did try to come back several weeks ago. He will be target number 1.
The only player right now playing with some grit and nasty is Mikkola.
Where’s Truba,Kreider and Goodrow missing in action.
I’m just being honest here as I love the Rangers
But they can’t play like they currently are playing and win the Cup even with Igor standing on his head…
Yeah I know LT56 says I’m a whiner but be true about the performance being displayed on the ice
The Rangers could definitely beat the Devils in a playoff series. The Devils aren't "out toughing" anyone. Timo has given them some much needed strength and toughness on the puck however their game is always going to be about speed and attacking off the rush. The reason the Devils looked so good last night is they played their most responsible game with the puck and coverage that they have played in weeks. If Lindgren is healthy you pair him, Fox and Miller with the talent and skill they have up front and Shesterkin in net they are a threat to win a playoff series vs anyone. Also though Ranger fans may not see it, Gallant is a damn good coach. One of the best in the league. Them and the Devils are gonna go toe to toe for the foreseeable future. It's the mid 90's all over again.
You're pointing out flaws in what will be 105 point team in a brutally tough conference
none of how they play today matters in 10 days.
Last year Trouba singlehandedly knocked out Jarvis and Crosby from CAR and PIT series (at least some of it for Crosby) and set the tone all playoffs with his phsyicality.
Trocheck is the exact kind of player most of you say the Rangers need. And the 4th line is the epitome of grit.
But when you look at playoffs and the winners it's not the grit guys who stand out, it's the Kucherov's, Makar's, MacKinnon's, Crosby's, Kane's, Ovi's etc. and the goalies there is a reason for that. Playoffs are won with goalies, skill, grit, and specials. IMO. and the Rangers check all those boxes.
You can quibble about turnovers or board play in game 75 out of 82, but it doesn't matter in 10 days. Last year set the Rangers up for this year.
And yes, if Lindgren is out or limited it changes things - again even with a healthy Lindgren I was saying the Rangers could use another veteran D. Schneider and Miller will have to step it up.
You're pointing out flaws in what will be 105 point team in a brutally tough conference
none of how they play today matters in 10 days.
Last year Trouba singlehandedly knocked out Jarvis and Crosby from CAR and PIT series (at least some of it for Crosby) and set the tone all playoffs with his phsyicality.
Trocheck is the exact kind of player most of you say the Rangers need. And the 4th line is the epitome of grit.
But when you look at playoffs and the winners it's not the grit guys who stand out, it's the Kucherov's, Makar's, MacKinnon's, Crosby's, Kane's, Ovi's etc. and the goalies there is a reason for that. Playoffs are won with goalies, skill, grit, and specials. IMO. and the Rangers check all those boxes.
You can quibble about turnovers or board play in game 75 out of 82, but it doesn't matter in 10 days. Last year set the Rangers up for this year.
And yes, if Lindgren is out or limited it changes things - again even with a healthy Lindgren I was saying the Rangers could use another veteran D. Schneider and Miller will have to step it up.
105 point team in a brutally tough conference...that loses in the playoffs. Just like the Yankees in baseball. No one is saying the team isn't talented. It is uber talented. It just is not the kind of team that wins in the postseason, and you know it. Pitt nearly knocked the Rangers out last year on nothing but guts and physicality. The Canes are not a good matchup with the Rangers...NY has their number. Tampa absolutely clamped down on the Rangers and won four of the last five to win the series. Motte and Trotchek (sp) certainly have moved the needle physical-wise, but not nearly enough to spare the dancers on this team the wrath of the opposition. I'd like to see Kakko get nasty. Laf get nasty. Get in front of the net like Kreider did all last season. No one's doing it now. And I should have been more clear, I'm talking the constant, illogical, nonsensical DEFENSIVE turnovers in their own zone. It's the albatross they bear right now, and it costs them seemingly every game. As Rick stated, I want this team to win more than any other team I root for. They're getting there. They need to get bigger, stronger, and tougher or it's another early to mid playoff bounce this season.
the Rangers to make it to the ECF last year and have a 2 - 0 lead in the CF, IOW be two games away from the Stanley Cup where they'd be playing for Lord Stanley against a team with a questionable goalie?
Do you think this year's team is better than last year's team or are Strome, Copp and Braun the true guts of a playoff team/stanley cup contender.
I think sometimes fans convince themselves their team can't or won't win so they're not disappointed if they don't.
no offense, margi, but you're absolutely insufferable
tends to get really negative really quickly off of a one game (or sometimes one period) performance.
I know that's an introductory "Internet Message Board 101" level concept that I should be more comfortable with at this point.
They lost a 2-1 game in which they didn't play well. In spite of that, even that game is one in which the rangers come away a winner approximately 1/3 of the time (if you put any stock in the type of statistical analysis done by sites like MoneyPuck). That's hockey.
Of course, the Rangers need to play a lot better than they did last night if they want to go far.
If you flip that game on its head and the Rangers came away a 2-1 winner, some of you would be on this thread warning us of how fucked they are if they continue to dominate games that way but let other teams hang around and only win 2-1.
I've wanted to surpass Carolina but I'm not so sure now. I can see them losing to the Rangers...but I think the Islanders are actually a worse matchup for us. They totally negate our speed advantage. Sorokin has been great lately too.
Devils & Rangers will be fun.
RE: no offense, margi, but you're absolutely insufferable
Lol none taken...but even you have to agree, the tiresome "wait 'till next year" stuff with these teams is frustrating. They keep retooling with no positive results, year after year after year. And you can see it coming, every single year.
According to Natural Stat Trick Statistics the Devils had a 14 to 6
High danger scoring chances five on five play last night.
Igor stood on his head last night to keep the game close.
All I’m saying based on what I saw last night is the Rangers better bring the intensity and physicality no matter who they play in the SCP.
Last night was not enough and I know it’s only one game but last night was a big game imv.
Enough of my comments already
LGR win the Cup!!!
the Rangers to make it to the ECF last year and have a 2 - 0 lead in the CF, IOW be two games away from the Stanley Cup where they'd be playing for Lord Stanley against a team with a questionable goalie?
Do you think this year's team is better than last year's team or are Strome, Copp and Braun the true guts of a playoff team/stanley cup contender.
I think sometimes fans convince themselves their team can't or won't win so they're not disappointed if they don't.
No, I was pleasantly surprised...didn't think they'd get past Carolina and I was beyond pissed that they were down 3-1 to Pitt. That said, I felt they were early last year...and an avg or worse netminder, things would have been different. But we knew last year they didn't have enough, and I feel the same this season. Who is the leader of this team? Zibby? Bread? Chris? I have no idea who is leading this team. There is certainly no Messier or Leetch stepping into the breech. And that, my friend, is exactly what I think this team is missing. And trust me, I know they're close...which makes it not only disappointing to me, but frustrated because you KNOW they're that close. PJ you know I want to be wrong. But I don't think I am.
I think there's been some positive results. They rebuilt the team to within 2 games of making the cup final last year. We'll see what happens this year. You're not exactly going out on a limb to say you predict the Rangers won't win the Stanley Cup when there's maybe a 10% probability, at best, of that happening.
As mentioned, this is a place to vent, I get it. But it feels like some literally will not post when the team wins 8 of 9, and then shows up as soon as they lose a close game. I don't understand going through a season rooting for your team in this way.
I think there's been some positive results. They rebuilt the team to within 2 games of making the cup final last year. We'll see what happens this year. You're not exactly going out on a limb to say you predict the Rangers won't win the Stanley Cup when there's maybe a 10% probability, at best, of that happening.
As mentioned, this is a place to vent, I get it. But it feels like some literally will not post when the team wins 8 of 9, and then shows up as soon as they lose a close game. I don't understand going through a season rooting for your team in this way.
Kyle I watch nearly every game, I'm not a homer and I'm not a doomsayer. I post and praise when they win, I lament and brood when they lose. I'm not going to say "I told you so" if they get bounced early, and I will eat a massive fucking crow with no ketchup if they make it to the finals. I'm simply looking at the way the team is constructed (better than last year) and the way they play (same as last year) and just don't see a team built for the sustained pressure and rigors of a long playoff run. It's just my opinion based on what I've seen over the course of a lifetime of playing, coaching, and watching hockey. No one needs to agree, and I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm simply stating as I see it. If I'm wrong, you'll get an apology...no questions asked.
I respect your opinion, I do. I see the flaws, and the eastern conference is an absolute monster. We all might just be playing for the right to get smoked by Boston, which looks like a perfect team. Chances are you're going to be correct in this. But I think you just might be over looking the positives this group brings to the table as well, getting lost in the things that frustrate you. Pj, as an unbiased observer, pointed a few out.
They need Lindgren back. If for some reason he actually can't go, then I'm with you, it's all over.
the Rangers to make it to the ECF last year and have a 2 - 0 lead in the CF, IOW be two games away from the Stanley Cup where they'd be playing for Lord Stanley against a team with a questionable goalie?
Do you think this year's team is better than last year's team or are Strome, Copp and Braun the true guts of a playoff team/stanley cup contender.
I think sometimes fans convince themselves their team can't or won't win so they're not disappointed if they don't.
Also, no. I don't need to be convinced that the Rangers will not win it all because, well, they always lose lol except 1994. 2015 was the last time I really thought they'd win it all but nope. Got bitched out on the own home ice by Tampa Bay in game 7. Once again.
Also presenting me that exact hypothetical before the season started last year? Sure. Doesn't sound too outlandish. Weren't they an on the bubble team in the spring of 2021? Montreal won around 38 or 39 games in the regular season in 2010 and made it to the ECF finals. I mean cool but yeah it's not all that surprising.
Same thing with the Giants. I'm not going to be all proud and giddy because they got blown out by Philly in the divisional round just because they were terrible in previous years.
RE: I didn't think they were that bad last night. Definitely a step slow
especially in the 1st period. Definitely not their best showing recently but not terrible.
I wasn't fan of bringing Kane here and I'm still not sold. He's been ok. Looks slow, makes a lot of dumb plays with the puck. And not shooting enough. Hopefully it's just the adjustment period. I like Tarasenko's game A LOT. 235 lbs and fast driving to the net. That guy is made for the playoffs.
Agree Lindgren is sorely missed. They need him back badly.
Kane has been brutal, I can't stand him. Tarasenko is really impressive to me.
He's mostly been paired with terrible partners but I haven't liked Schneider's game all season. He needs to take another step in the coming seasons given the cap crunch. Improvements on D will likely need to come from within.
He's mostly been paired with terrible partners but I haven't liked Schneider's game all season. He needs to take another step in the coming seasons given the cap crunch. Improvements on D will likely need to come from within.
Soph. slump. Yep. Agreed, but I will say this, he played a bit better since he's been paired with Mikkola. Obviously they haven't been paired for too long and need to develop that chemistry, but I suspect that Schneids will play a sounder defensive game once Lindgren returns to the lineup.
RE: RE: I didn't think they were that bad last night. Definitely a step slow
especially in the 1st period. Definitely not their best showing recently but not terrible.
I wasn't fan of bringing Kane here and I'm still not sold. He's been ok. Looks slow, makes a lot of dumb plays with the puck. And not shooting enough. Hopefully it's just the adjustment period. I like Tarasenko's game A LOT. 235 lbs and fast driving to the net. That guy is made for the playoffs.
Agree Lindgren is sorely missed. They need him back badly.
Kane has been brutal, I can't stand him. Tarasenko is really impressive to me.
Wouldn't say brutal, but he does float quite a lot. We're going to see more of his exceptional puck-handling and wristshot.
These threads from a Ranger perspective after a loss are real special
The Devils are a good team who has been playing poorly and needed a big win, they came out flying, got an early lead and were able to nurse it until the end, despite the Rangers picking up their game as the game progressed. Harpur had a rough night, kids weren’t particularly good, it’s OK, it happens. As far as the Rangers not being built for the playoffs, who is then? Carolina? New Jersey? These are two of the LEAST physical teams in the league. As an earlier poster said, the Rangers did not lose to Tampa because they weren’t “gritty” enough. Tampa’s skill guys took over, their goalie got hot in the final few games of the series.
I am confident the Rangers can beat the Devils. The expected goals in this game were 2.94-2.89 in favor of New Jersey. Vanecek had a spectacular game, which is not going to happen every game next month. Rangers need to commit to beating up on New Jersey’s defensemen, finishing checks on the Devils forwards. When the Rangers got to forechecking hard last night, Devils had a hard time getting out of their end. Same thing happened when the Rangers had the comeback win against them earlier in the year. I think in a playoff series, they will. Not to say it’s going to be a cake walk, but anyone saying the Rangers “aren’t built for the playoffs” is really looking at the team from a negative perspective.
We have some pretty damn slow skaters on this team. Kreider is an exception, as are K'Andre, Chytil and Zibanejad, but for the most, we have average to below-average skaters when it comes to speed. The weakest part of Panarin's offensive game (we know his defensive flaws) is his lack of speed. That's why he's such a finesse player and has to make all these twists and turns when he gets the puck. He simply can't outskate anyone. Same with Tarasenko, Kane, Kakko and Laf.
We don't need them to be Grabner, but they need to skate much faster. A lot of them look like they skate in mud. I'm pretty sure Dale Purinton and Sandy McCarthy can skate faster than Kaapo Kakko.
RE: These threads from a Ranger perspective after a loss are real special
The Devils are a good team who has been playing poorly and needed a big win, they came out flying, got an early lead and were able to nurse it until the end, despite the Rangers picking up their game as the game progressed. Harpur had a rough night, kids weren’t particularly good, it’s OK, it happens. As far as the Rangers not being built for the playoffs, who is then? Carolina? New Jersey? These are two of the LEAST physical teams in the league. As an earlier poster said, the Rangers did not lose to Tampa because they weren’t “gritty” enough. Tampa’s skill guys took over, their goalie got hot in the final few games of the series.
I am confident the Rangers can beat the Devils. The expected goals in this game were 2.94-2.89 in favor of New Jersey. Vanecek had a spectacular game, which is not going to happen every game next month. Rangers need to commit to beating up on New Jersey’s defensemen, finishing checks on the Devils forwards. When the Rangers got to forechecking hard last night, Devils had a hard time getting out of their end. Same thing happened when the Rangers had the comeback win against them earlier in the year. I think in a playoff series, they will. Not to say it’s going to be a cake walk, but anyone saying the Rangers “aren’t built for the playoffs” is really looking at the team from a negative perspective.
Vanacek is maybe the biggest wildcard for the Devils. If he can consistently play like that they become very dangerous.
RE: RE: These threads from a Ranger perspective after a loss are real special
Vanacek is maybe the biggest wildcard for the Devils. If he can consistently play like that they become very dangerous.
I have a feeling the Devils will end up using multiple goalies in the playoffs. My hope and by merit is that the 2nd one will be Schmid. I fear it will be Blackwood though.
RE: These threads from a Ranger perspective after a loss are real special
The Devils are a good team who has been playing poorly and needed a big win, they came out flying, got an early lead and were able to nurse it until the end, despite the Rangers picking up their game as the game progressed. Harpur had a rough night, kids weren’t particularly good, it’s OK, it happens. As far as the Rangers not being built for the playoffs, who is then? Carolina? New Jersey? These are two of the LEAST physical teams in the league. As an earlier poster said, the Rangers did not lose to Tampa because they weren’t “gritty” enough. Tampa’s skill guys took over, their goalie got hot in the final few games of the series.
I am confident the Rangers can beat the Devils. The expected goals in this game were 2.94-2.89 in favor of New Jersey. Vanecek had a spectacular game, which is not going to happen every game next month. Rangers need to commit to beating up on New Jersey’s defensemen, finishing checks on the Devils forwards. When the Rangers got to forechecking hard last night, Devils had a hard time getting out of their end. Same thing happened when the Rangers had the comeback win against them earlier in the year. I think in a playoff series, they will. Not to say it’s going to be a cake walk, but anyone saying the Rangers “aren’t built for the playoffs” is really looking at the team from a negative perspective.
Gotta catch 'em to hit 'em.... Old Slow Rangers.
Goalie is the only wildcard here.
Rangers lost by a goal to a very good team on the road
I have a feeling the Devils will end up using multiple goalies in the playoffs. My hope and by merit is that the 2nd one will be Schmid. I fear it will be Blackwood though.
I hope not. In the postseason it should be Vanecek as the workhorse with Schmid as the backup but we both know that Blackwood will end up being the backup to Vanecek.
Neither are the rangers LOL
They aren’t gritty at all and they look old and slow
Igor once again very sharp and keeping them in the game.
Devils do have impressive speed .
They are not going to be an easy team to play in the first round.
The Devils desperately needed that win. Not only to stay ahead of the Rangers in the standing but for the confidence boost. They were 4-4-2 over their past 10 games and obviously the last thing they want is to head into the postseason playing their worst hockey of the year.
Devils outplayed the Rangers badly. A great Igor performance kept it close
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they've been sort of struggling lately and it wouldn't be a good look for their psyche to blow 2nd to the Rangers after being ahead of them all year. I don't think home ice in their playoff series is that big of a deal as I don't think either team fears going into the other's building. Devs played their tightest smartest game in weeks.
The Devils desperately needed that win. Not only to stay ahead of the Rangers in the standing but for the confidence boost. They were 4-4-2 over their past 10 games and obviously the last thing they want is to head into the postseason playing their worst hockey of the year.
Carolina lost as well, they have been slightly worse than the Devils over the last 10. With a game in hand, the points lead is somehow only 1 point. Be interesting how things shape up by the end of the weekend with both teams doing back to backs.
1. Hughes is the second most exciting player I've seen in person (past ten years) behind McDavid.
2. Devils dominated the Rangers. This game never felt close.
3. Kane sucks.
4. Harper sucks.
1. Hughes is the second most exciting player I've seen in person (past ten years) behind McDavid.
2. Devils dominated the Rangers. This game never felt close.
3. Kane sucks.
4. Harper sucks.
I'm going to the Washington game on Sunday. See you and the media down there.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
I wasn't fan of bringing Kane here and I'm still not sold. He's been ok. Looks slow, makes a lot of dumb plays with the puck. And not shooting enough. Hopefully it's just the adjustment period. I like Tarasenko's game A LOT. 235 lbs and fast driving to the net. That guy is made for the playoffs.
Agree Lindgren is sorely missed. They need him back badly.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
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So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
I disagree.
NYR are the epitome of how to build a playoff winner.
starts in net, extends to specials, add in some skill, grit leadership and chemistry.
no one has all those elements like the Rangers.
If they lose it will be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Only thing I would have done differently (and it's not 2020 hindsight I said this all along) is I would have put Lindgren on LTIR and added a veteran D. A Savard, Edmundson, Gavrikov type. NYR D depth is struggling and it's not who Rangers fans pick on, it's been Schneider mostly.
Anyway, NYR are top 3 cup favorite for me, right up there with BOS and CAR. Maybe a slight notch below BOS but right up with CAR. NJD I put slightly lower just because I am not convinced Vanecek (or Blackwood) can win in the playoffs consistently.
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So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
I disagree.
NYR are the epitome of how to build a playoff winner.
starts in net, extends to specials, add in some skill, grit leadership and chemistry.
no one has all those elements like the Rangers.
If they lose it will be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Only thing I would have done differently (and it's not 2020 hindsight I said this all along) is I would have put Lindgren on LTIR and added a veteran D. A Savard, Edmundson, Gavrikov type. NYR D depth is struggling and it's not who Rangers fans pick on, it's been Schneider mostly.
Anyway, NYR are top 3 cup favorite for me, right up there with BOS and CAR. Maybe a slight notch below BOS but right up with CAR. NJD I put slightly lower just because I am not convinced Vanecek (or Blackwood) can win in the playoffs consistently.
I agree with you pj. but if Lindgren doesn't come back as his usual self I think they will have a problem advancing. Fox misses him badly, and overall they need his grit and toughness. He's got the meanest eyes I've ever seen when he's on the ice.
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So what exactly are the guidelines and expectations for the Rangers this playoff run? Last year, I couldn't keep up.
"You shouldn't have expected the Rangers to get to the cup (even though they were 2 wins away from reaching the finals) those were all outlandish beliefs and that was all because others didn't believe they'd make it that far and were proven wrong because it was a rebuild year blah blah blah."
So are the Rangers expected to go far or are the birds of BBI going to sit like crows perched on the edge of the cliff looking down, ready, if any of us get annoyed the Rangers extend their new cup drought? So which is it? Happy we made it? or is Patrick Kane going to carry the Rangers to a second round elimination from the playoffs?
Spoil me, BBI and DO tell.
The Rangers are not built for a sustained playoff run. If you don't see that, it's on you to learn why because you obviously don't watch playoff hockey.
I disagree.
NYR are the epitome of how to build a playoff winner.
starts in net, extends to specials, add in some skill, grit leadership and chemistry.
no one has all those elements like the Rangers.
If they lose it will be a disappointment as far as I'm concerned.
Only thing I would have done differently (and it's not 2020 hindsight I said this all along) is I would have put Lindgren on LTIR and added a veteran D. A Savard, Edmundson, Gavrikov type. NYR D depth is struggling and it's not who Rangers fans pick on, it's been Schneider mostly.
Anyway, NYR are top 3 cup favorite for me, right up there with BOS and CAR. Maybe a slight notch below BOS but right up with CAR. NJD I put slightly lower just because I am not convinced Vanecek (or Blackwood) can win in the playoffs consistently.
If they play the Devils, they won't get out of the first round. This is NOT a playoff hockey team. Grit? Defense? Playing up the boards? Grinding? Sorry..it's a stretch pass / tic tac toe offense that doesn't shoot nor get in front of the net enough to buy greasy goals. And they turn the puck over like a pee wee team.
It's ok to talk truth and facts. I want them to win it all. Tampa showed last year that all you need to do to the Rangers is be tough. The Devils showed it last night. Rangers are going nowhere again.
That's your opinion why they lost that series after being up 2 - 0 - TBL just turned on the toughness and board play and the Rangers turtled?
They do turn the puck over, but turnovers in hockey are a funny thing. In order to turn the puck over you need to have the puck. So players like Panarin do turn it over a lot (too much to be clear) but it's something you live with because it's on his stick so much. Know who has the fewest turnovers in the league? Anaheim, St. Louis, Nashville, San Jose, - I wouldn't trade places with them. It doesn't mean be happy about the turnovers, you do want to limit them, but it's not something I'd judge in a vacuum (and I'm not saying you were, just pointing out it's not a black and white stat like in football).
My problem is all world Panarin will become a wallflower again…see Tampa series last year.
Pairing him with Kane will show big time defensive deficiency with respect to odd man rushes.
Really worried that Lindgren has a serious shoulder separation. Teams will really target him with hard hits . He didn’t even last more than 1 hit when he did try to come back several weeks ago. He will be target number 1.
The only player right now playing with some grit and nasty is Mikkola.
Where’s Truba,Kreider and Goodrow missing in action.
I’m just being honest here as I love the Rangers
But they can’t play like they currently are playing and win the Cup even with Igor standing on his head…
Yeah I know LT56 says I’m a whiner but be true about the performance being displayed on the ice
You're pointing out flaws in what will be 105 point team in a brutally tough conference
none of how they play today matters in 10 days.
Last year Trouba singlehandedly knocked out Jarvis and Crosby from CAR and PIT series (at least some of it for Crosby) and set the tone all playoffs with his phsyicality.
Trocheck is the exact kind of player most of you say the Rangers need. And the 4th line is the epitome of grit.
But when you look at playoffs and the winners it's not the grit guys who stand out, it's the Kucherov's, Makar's, MacKinnon's, Crosby's, Kane's, Ovi's etc. and the goalies there is a reason for that. Playoffs are won with goalies, skill, grit, and specials. IMO. and the Rangers check all those boxes.
You can quibble about turnovers or board play in game 75 out of 82, but it doesn't matter in 10 days. Last year set the Rangers up for this year.
And yes, if Lindgren is out or limited it changes things - again even with a healthy Lindgren I was saying the Rangers could use another veteran D. Schneider and Miller will have to step it up.
You're pointing out flaws in what will be 105 point team in a brutally tough conference
none of how they play today matters in 10 days.
Last year Trouba singlehandedly knocked out Jarvis and Crosby from CAR and PIT series (at least some of it for Crosby) and set the tone all playoffs with his phsyicality.
Trocheck is the exact kind of player most of you say the Rangers need. And the 4th line is the epitome of grit.
But when you look at playoffs and the winners it's not the grit guys who stand out, it's the Kucherov's, Makar's, MacKinnon's, Crosby's, Kane's, Ovi's etc. and the goalies there is a reason for that. Playoffs are won with goalies, skill, grit, and specials. IMO. and the Rangers check all those boxes.
You can quibble about turnovers or board play in game 75 out of 82, but it doesn't matter in 10 days. Last year set the Rangers up for this year.
And yes, if Lindgren is out or limited it changes things - again even with a healthy Lindgren I was saying the Rangers could use another veteran D. Schneider and Miller will have to step it up.
105 point team in a brutally tough conference...that loses in the playoffs. Just like the Yankees in baseball. No one is saying the team isn't talented. It is uber talented. It just is not the kind of team that wins in the postseason, and you know it. Pitt nearly knocked the Rangers out last year on nothing but guts and physicality. The Canes are not a good matchup with the Rangers...NY has their number. Tampa absolutely clamped down on the Rangers and won four of the last five to win the series. Motte and Trotchek (sp) certainly have moved the needle physical-wise, but not nearly enough to spare the dancers on this team the wrath of the opposition. I'd like to see Kakko get nasty. Laf get nasty. Get in front of the net like Kreider did all last season. No one's doing it now. And I should have been more clear, I'm talking the constant, illogical, nonsensical DEFENSIVE turnovers in their own zone. It's the albatross they bear right now, and it costs them seemingly every game. As Rick stated, I want this team to win more than any other team I root for. They're getting there. They need to get bigger, stronger, and tougher or it's another early to mid playoff bounce this season.
Do you think this year's team is better than last year's team or are Strome, Copp and Braun the true guts of a playoff team/stanley cup contender.
I think sometimes fans convince themselves their team can't or won't win so they're not disappointed if they don't.
I know that's an introductory "Internet Message Board 101" level concept that I should be more comfortable with at this point.
They lost a 2-1 game in which they didn't play well. In spite of that, even that game is one in which the rangers come away a winner approximately 1/3 of the time (if you put any stock in the type of statistical analysis done by sites like MoneyPuck). That's hockey.
Of course, the Rangers need to play a lot better than they did last night if they want to go far.
If you flip that game on its head and the Rangers came away a 2-1 winner, some of you would be on this thread warning us of how fucked they are if they continue to dominate games that way but let other teams hang around and only win 2-1.
That's hockey.
It will be fun going forward.
Devils & Rangers will be fun.
Lol none taken...but even you have to agree, the tiresome "wait 'till next year" stuff with these teams is frustrating. They keep retooling with no positive results, year after year after year. And you can see it coming, every single year.
Igor stood on his head last night to keep the game close.
All I’m saying based on what I saw last night is the Rangers better bring the intensity and physicality no matter who they play in the SCP.
Last night was not enough and I know it’s only one game but last night was a big game imv.
Enough of my comments already
LGR win the Cup!!!
Do you think this year's team is better than last year's team or are Strome, Copp and Braun the true guts of a playoff team/stanley cup contender.
I think sometimes fans convince themselves their team can't or won't win so they're not disappointed if they don't.
No, I was pleasantly surprised...didn't think they'd get past Carolina and I was beyond pissed that they were down 3-1 to Pitt. That said, I felt they were early last year...and an avg or worse netminder, things would have been different. But we knew last year they didn't have enough, and I feel the same this season. Who is the leader of this team? Zibby? Bread? Chris? I have no idea who is leading this team. There is certainly no Messier or Leetch stepping into the breech. And that, my friend, is exactly what I think this team is missing. And trust me, I know they're close...which makes it not only disappointing to me, but frustrated because you KNOW they're that close. PJ you know I want to be wrong. But I don't think I am.
As mentioned, this is a place to vent, I get it. But it feels like some literally will not post when the team wins 8 of 9, and then shows up as soon as they lose a close game. I don't understand going through a season rooting for your team in this way.
As mentioned, this is a place to vent, I get it. But it feels like some literally will not post when the team wins 8 of 9, and then shows up as soon as they lose a close game. I don't understand going through a season rooting for your team in this way.
Kyle I watch nearly every game, I'm not a homer and I'm not a doomsayer. I post and praise when they win, I lament and brood when they lose. I'm not going to say "I told you so" if they get bounced early, and I will eat a massive fucking crow with no ketchup if they make it to the finals. I'm simply looking at the way the team is constructed (better than last year) and the way they play (same as last year) and just don't see a team built for the sustained pressure and rigors of a long playoff run. It's just my opinion based on what I've seen over the course of a lifetime of playing, coaching, and watching hockey. No one needs to agree, and I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm simply stating as I see it. If I'm wrong, you'll get an apology...no questions asked.
They need Lindgren back. If for some reason he actually can't go, then I'm with you, it's all over.
but there are about 10 out of 16 playoff teams who IMO could win and the Rangers are one of them.
My opinion, based on the elements I think are critical to winning a cup, I think the Rangers are one of the favorites.
Do you think this year's team is better than last year's team or are Strome, Copp and Braun the true guts of a playoff team/stanley cup contender.
I think sometimes fans convince themselves their team can't or won't win so they're not disappointed if they don't.
Also, no. I don't need to be convinced that the Rangers will not win it all because, well, they always lose lol except 1994. 2015 was the last time I really thought they'd win it all but nope. Got bitched out on the own home ice by Tampa Bay in game 7. Once again.
Also presenting me that exact hypothetical before the season started last year? Sure. Doesn't sound too outlandish. Weren't they an on the bubble team in the spring of 2021? Montreal won around 38 or 39 games in the regular season in 2010 and made it to the ECF finals. I mean cool but yeah it's not all that surprising.
Same thing with the Giants. I'm not going to be all proud and giddy because they got blown out by Philly in the divisional round just because they were terrible in previous years.
I wasn't fan of bringing Kane here and I'm still not sold. He's been ok. Looks slow, makes a lot of dumb plays with the puck. And not shooting enough. Hopefully it's just the adjustment period. I like Tarasenko's game A LOT. 235 lbs and fast driving to the net. That guy is made for the playoffs.
Agree Lindgren is sorely missed. They need him back badly.
Kane has been brutal, I can't stand him. Tarasenko is really impressive to me.
but there are about 10 out of 16 playoff teams who IMO could win and the Rangers are one of them.
My opinion, based on the elements I think are critical to winning a cup, I think the Rangers are one of the favorites.
I mean, I'd hope so, isn't that why they got Kane, Tarasenko and all of that? Fans should feel confident in their team heading into the playoffs?
Soph. slump. Yep. Agreed, but I will say this, he played a bit better since he's been paired with Mikkola. Obviously they haven't been paired for too long and need to develop that chemistry, but I suspect that Schneids will play a sounder defensive game once Lindgren returns to the lineup.
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especially in the 1st period. Definitely not their best showing recently but not terrible.
I wasn't fan of bringing Kane here and I'm still not sold. He's been ok. Looks slow, makes a lot of dumb plays with the puck. And not shooting enough. Hopefully it's just the adjustment period. I like Tarasenko's game A LOT. 235 lbs and fast driving to the net. That guy is made for the playoffs.
Agree Lindgren is sorely missed. They need him back badly.
Kane has been brutal, I can't stand him. Tarasenko is really impressive to me.
Wouldn't say brutal, but he does float quite a lot. We're going to see more of his exceptional puck-handling and wristshot.
I am confident the Rangers can beat the Devils. The expected goals in this game were 2.94-2.89 in favor of New Jersey. Vanecek had a spectacular game, which is not going to happen every game next month. Rangers need to commit to beating up on New Jersey’s defensemen, finishing checks on the Devils forwards. When the Rangers got to forechecking hard last night, Devils had a hard time getting out of their end. Same thing happened when the Rangers had the comeback win against them earlier in the year. I think in a playoff series, they will. Not to say it’s going to be a cake walk, but anyone saying the Rangers “aren’t built for the playoffs” is really looking at the team from a negative perspective.
We don't need them to be Grabner, but they need to skate much faster. A lot of them look like they skate in mud. I'm pretty sure Dale Purinton and Sandy McCarthy can skate faster than Kaapo Kakko.
I am confident the Rangers can beat the Devils. The expected goals in this game were 2.94-2.89 in favor of New Jersey. Vanecek had a spectacular game, which is not going to happen every game next month. Rangers need to commit to beating up on New Jersey’s defensemen, finishing checks on the Devils forwards. When the Rangers got to forechecking hard last night, Devils had a hard time getting out of their end. Same thing happened when the Rangers had the comeback win against them earlier in the year. I think in a playoff series, they will. Not to say it’s going to be a cake walk, but anyone saying the Rangers “aren’t built for the playoffs” is really looking at the team from a negative perspective.
Vanacek is maybe the biggest wildcard for the Devils. If he can consistently play like that they become very dangerous.
Vanacek is maybe the biggest wildcard for the Devils. If he can consistently play like that they become very dangerous.
I have a feeling the Devils will end up using multiple goalies in the playoffs. My hope and by merit is that the 2nd one will be Schmid. I fear it will be Blackwood though.
I am confident the Rangers can beat the Devils. The expected goals in this game were 2.94-2.89 in favor of New Jersey. Vanecek had a spectacular game, which is not going to happen every game next month. Rangers need to commit to beating up on New Jersey’s defensemen, finishing checks on the Devils forwards. When the Rangers got to forechecking hard last night, Devils had a hard time getting out of their end. Same thing happened when the Rangers had the comeback win against them earlier in the year. I think in a playoff series, they will. Not to say it’s going to be a cake walk, but anyone saying the Rangers “aren’t built for the playoffs” is really looking at the team from a negative perspective.
Gotta catch 'em to hit 'em.... Old Slow Rangers.
Goalie is the only wildcard here.
Kane and Tarasenko are still being integrated in and Lindgren is still out.
As we saw last year when Canes dominated Rangers in regular season, the playoffs are a different animal.
Devils are very small up front. They got Timo because they knew it is a weakness. The Rangers will exploit that in playoffs.
I have a feeling the Devils will end up using multiple goalies in the playoffs. My hope and by merit is that the 2nd one will be Schmid. I fear it will be Blackwood though.
I hope not. In the postseason it should be Vanecek as the workhorse with Schmid as the backup but we both know that Blackwood will end up being the backup to Vanecek.
1. Hughes is the second most exciting player I've seen in person (past ten years) behind McDavid.
Have you seen his little brother Luke?
Devils draft pick and a defenseman at Michigan. He skates like Neidermeyer
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