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NFT: Just finished Breaking Bad...watch El Camino and BCS?

DC Gmen Fan : 3/31/2023 10:46 am
Don't know why I never watched it before but holy sh*t that was an amazing show.

So is Better Call Saul worth watching?

And should I watch El Camino?
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Route 9 : 3/31/2023 10:48 am : link
Definitely watch Better Call Saul.

El Camino there is absolutely no rush to see but if you're bored with nothing better to do, watch it.
El Camino was pointless.  
robbieballs2003 : 3/31/2023 10:48 am : link
BCS was really good.
El Camino  
Giantsfan79 : 3/31/2023 10:49 am : link
is a movie based on BB, so it would make sense to watch it if you want more.

Personally I liked Better Call Saul more but it's a preference thing. Saul is a prequel to Breaking Bad.
Eli Camino is good,....I bit anticlimactic  
Jint 77 : 3/31/2023 10:49 am : link
It feels like it should have the last 2 episodes of breaking bad.

It's still good though.
BCS is a masterpiece but a slow burn  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 3/31/2023 10:50 am : link
Allow yourself time to get into it. Kim Wexler is the best.
you've invested the time, so far  
fkap : 3/31/2023 10:53 am : link
might as well go the distance with EC. It isn't all that good, but, what's a couple more hours?

BCS is absolutely worth it. I'm of the opinion that some of the early/mid seasons dragged a bit, but in hind sight, I was too eager for Saul, and didn't appreciate Jimmy.
RE: El Camino was pointless.  
Route 9 : 3/31/2023 10:54 am : link
In comment 16079058 robbieballs2003 said:
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BCS was really good.


Yeah. Spot on. I remember watching El Camino after the Giants Patriots Thursday night football game in my hotel because I didn't want anybody to spoil it for me.

When I was done with it I couldn't believe how pointless that whole thing was. I've never watched a more (?) pointless film in my life. I couldn't believe I got excited for that lol
BCS > BB  
UConn4523 : 3/31/2023 10:54 am : link
so yes
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Kyle in NY : 3/31/2023 10:55 am : link
Must watch BCS. But as others have said, be patient. Especially if you just finished BB, stepping into the early seasons of BCS is going to be a bit of a shock, given its pacing and content (it's still great, just different). But it absolutely pays off.

I liked El Camino, adds a few interesting notes on the end of the BB story. Worth watching too. Maybe watch that, then get into Saul
RE: BCS > BB  
Route 9 : 3/31/2023 10:56 am : link
In comment 16079072 UConn4523 said:
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so yes


Spicy
RE: BCS > BB  
Kyle in NY : 3/31/2023 10:56 am : link
In comment 16079072 UConn4523 said:
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so yes


co-sign. I'm still a bit amazed by BCS and how they pieced it all together. Amazing show
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Route 9 : 3/31/2023 11:04 am : link
I was on that "BCS > BB" train until the very last stop. Those last few episodes were just okay and dare I say ... boring? The ending wasn't surprising at all to me. It was obvious where they were going and it just kind of ended and we went on our way.

I remember watching them all at work ... on break. I remember turning it off and just not thinking much of anything about the final or last few episodes.
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Payasdaddy : 3/31/2023 11:16 am : link
In comment 16079073 Kyle in NY said:
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Must watch BCS. But as others have said, be patient. Especially if you just finished BB, stepping into the early seasons of BCS is going to be a bit of a shock, given its pacing and content (it's still great, just different). But it absolutely pays off.

I liked El Camino, adds a few interesting notes on the end of the BB story. Worth watching too. Maybe watch that, then get into Saul



I did enjoy BCS but it was really slow AF. Did pick up and seasons progressed and it was well done like BB. Thought they kinda dropped the ball last few episodes
Definitely had some great moments but some parts just lagged a bit too much
El Camino  
allstarjim : 3/31/2023 11:17 am : link
Takes a lot of shit, but it's Aaron Paul's swan song as Jesse Pinkman. If you love the show like I did, and it seems like you do, it's a must watch. No, it's not "great". But it's worth the watch just to see how Pinkman's story ends. Despite the so-so script, Paul is terrific in it, per usual, and makes it worth the watch.

BCS - absolutely. Agree that it's a slow burn. I was reticent to watch it because Saul was not one of my favorite characters on BCS, but it's so well done. And it's as much a rise of Gus Fring and Mike Erhmantraut story as it is a Saul Goodman story, and boy, is it good, and so are Giancarlo Esposito and Johnathan Banks.
To me, BB is the best show of all time  
ShockNRoll : 3/31/2023 11:28 am : link
And BCS is #2. There were storylines that were as good as anything BB had to offer, but it definitely moved at a slower pace. Kim, Nacho, and Lalo are incredible characters. If you liked BB, BCS is absolute must-watch.
It's worth watching  
RHPeel : 3/31/2023 11:31 am : link
BCS was really great. I think the first few episodes are a bit of a challenge--as of Episode 2 or so I was pretty meh on it--but by the end of season 1, I was absolutely sold, and there are days where I would say it was a stronger show than Breaking Bad, top to bottom.
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26.2 : 3/31/2023 11:37 am : link
BCS might be my favorite show ever. Kim Wexler, Mike and psychopath mexican cartel guy near the end are all great characters.

You've now just convinced me to watch it all the way through again starting today!
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26.2 : 3/31/2023 11:38 am : link
Also, El Camino is okay. If you just finished BB you might as well. It came out way after BB ended.
If you enjoyed Breaking Bad  
aimrocky : 3/31/2023 11:43 am : link
watch El Camino. It wasn't great, but not bad either.

BCS is a must watch despite your opinion of BB. It's a fantastic series.
Yes  
mitch300 : 3/31/2023 11:45 am : link
Yes and yes.
I can't go as far as some on this thread  
aimrocky : 3/31/2023 11:45 am : link
and say BCS>BB, but they are very very close IMO.
El Camino was solid  
UConn4523 : 3/31/2023 11:47 am : link
worth watching for the apartment scene alone. And I’m all Walter white’d out so it was a nice break from that character.
RE: If you enjoyed Breaking Bad  
mfsd : 3/31/2023 11:51 am : link
In comment 16079134 aimrocky said:
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watch El Camino. It wasn't great, but not bad either.

BCS is a must watch despite your opinion of BB. It's a fantastic series.


Perfect summary IMO
RE: BCS > BB  
RCPhoenix : 3/31/2023 11:51 am : link
In comment 16079072 UConn4523 said:
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so yes


I enjoyed both shows, but BB>BCS and it's not close.

BB has probably the best series finale of any series ever made, and as much as I like Bob Odenkirk, Bryan Cranston>Bob Odenkirk.

Random Bryan Cranston story is that he saw Charles Manson come down on a horse when visiting the ranch in LA.
RE: RE: BCS > BB  
allstarjim : 3/31/2023 11:58 am : link
In comment 16079150 RCPhoenix said:
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so yes



I enjoyed both shows, but BB>BCS and it's not close.

BB has probably the best series finale of any series ever made, and as much as I like Bob Odenkirk, Bryan Cranston>Bob Odenkirk.

Random Bryan Cranston story is that he saw Charles Manson come down on a horse when visiting the ranch in LA.


If you haven't watched "Your Honor" on ShowTime yet, it's great. Only two seasons and that's probably the end of the show, but Cranston is fantastic again. Great series. I would love for them to do a season 3, but I don't think there's much story for Cranston's character arc in a hypothetical season 3. But the other characters are compelling enough to where they could do it.

And Mark Margolis plays an old mobster by the name of Carmine Conti in it. Another tie in to BB...he played Hector Salamanca.
RE: RE: BCS > BB  
UConn4523 : 3/31/2023 12:04 pm : link
In comment 16079150 RCPhoenix said:
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so yes



I enjoyed both shows, but BB>BCS and it's not close.

BB has probably the best series finale of any series ever made, and as much as I like Bob Odenkirk, Bryan Cranston>Bob Odenkirk.

Random Bryan Cranston story is that he saw Charles Manson come down on a horse when visiting the ranch in LA.


You are entitled to your opinion but Cranston overacts and wasn’t even the best part of BB. Odenkirk impressed the hell out of me and Kim Wexler is probably my favorite character in both seasons. Plus you get a better version of Mike and to me, a better overall story.

It’s the exact opposite of “it’s not close”.
Saul is a great show on its own,  
Section331 : 3/31/2023 12:11 pm : link
a definite watch. El Camino isn’t quite as good, but worth watching, IMO. The good thing about El Camino is it’s only a couple of hours, not multiple seasons like Saul.

The weird th8ng about Saul is that it’s supposed to be a prequel, but, as you’d expect, the characters look much older. Gus Fring stands out, since he looks like he put on 20 lbs, but the most glaring is Mike’s granddaughter. She was a toddler in Breaking Bad, but a young adult in Saul. I think Vince Giligan realized how ridiculous it looked, as he phased her out after season 1. Still a great show.
RE: RE: RE: BCS > BB  
26.2 : 3/31/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16079155 allstarjim said:
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so yes



I enjoyed both shows, but BB>BCS and it's not close.

BB has probably the best series finale of any series ever made, and as much as I like Bob Odenkirk, Bryan Cranston>Bob Odenkirk.

Random Bryan Cranston story is that he saw Charles Manson come down on a horse when visiting the ranch in LA.



If you haven't watched "Your Honor" on ShowTime yet, it's great. Only two seasons and that's probably the end of the show, but Cranston is fantastic again. Great series. I would love for them to do a season 3, but I don't think there's much story for Cranston's character arc in a hypothetical season 3. But the other characters are compelling enough to where they could do it.

And Mark Margolis plays an old mobster by the name of Carmine Conti in it. Another tie in to BB...he played Hector Salamanca.


I liked Your Honor S1 enough to start S2, but I made it 2 episodes and couldn't get in to it for some reason. Maybe I'll wait until it ends and binge it.
Another key difference  
RCPhoenix : 3/31/2023 12:15 pm : link
Is you know who survives BCS. In BB the viewer has no idea what could happen.
RE: Another key difference  
Section331 : 3/31/2023 12:17 pm : link
In comment 16079180 RCPhoenix said:
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Is you know who survives BCS. In BB the viewer has no idea what could happen.


As much as I liked Saul, Breaking Bad was definitely the better show, one of, if not the, best I’ve ever watched.
I am just here to support  
Lafferty, Daniel : 3/31/2023 12:21 pm : link
Howard Hamlin.
Your Honor was a joke  
UConn4523 : 3/31/2023 12:21 pm : link
had a lot of promise but ended up being a big eye roll. That said I did like how they ended season 1, no idea if I’ll bother with 2.
RE: Your Honor was a joke  
allstarjim : 3/31/2023 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16079185 UConn4523 said:
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had a lot of promise but ended up being a big eye roll. That said I did like how they ended season 1, no idea if I’ll bother with 2.


Surprising. The complete season 2 has been released. I really enjoyed it. I suppose different strokes and all.
RE: I am just here to support  
allstarjim : 3/31/2023 12:41 pm : link
In comment 16079183 Lafferty, Daniel said:
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Howard Hamlin.


He definitely got a raw deal! Poor Howard, lol. The show was absolutely brilliant in making him this unlikable character early into the most sympathetic character on the show.
I loved BCS....  
rebel yell : 3/31/2023 12:46 pm : link
everything about it. Just such great writing and acting. Bob Odenkirk, Jonathan Banks and Rhea Seehorn are fantastic. Hated to see it end!
RE: BCS is a masterpiece but a slow burn  
JohnG in Albany : 3/31/2023 1:19 pm : link
In comment 16079065 Bold Ruler said:
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Allow yourself time to get into it. Kim Wexler is the best.



I agree wholeheartedly.


El Camino was meh  
Essex : 3/31/2023 1:27 pm : link
the Sopranos prequel was literally terrible.

BCS is just as good as Breaking Bad if not better-which is incredible to even say given just how good breaking bad was.
Re: BCS and Breaking Bad  
Gforce11 : 3/31/2023 1:51 pm : link
I have not watched either show...and I see that BCS is the Prequal. Would you recommend watching BCS first or BB first, then BCS second?
RE: Re: BCS and Breaking Bad  
Sky King : 3/31/2023 1:56 pm : link
In comment 16079224 Gforce11 said:
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I have not watched either show...and I see that BCS is the Prequal. Would you recommend watching BCS first or BB first, then BCS second?

I was about to ask the same question.
Nacho and Lalo  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 3/31/2023 1:58 pm : link
might be my two favorite characters in the entire Breaking Bad/BCS universe. Or atleast up there with Mike. BCS told both of their stories really well and the actors killed it.

Lalo is a complete psycho yet plays it so cool on the surface. And Nacho's inner struggle with his life had you invested in him. Nacho's final scene is one of the more memorable ones in the series imo.
My two cents  
BigBlueBuff : 3/31/2023 2:03 pm : link
Is watch BCS first and then watch El Camino. It's not great, but it'll tie it all together pretty neatly when all is said and done.
RE: Nacho and Lalo  
RicFlair : 3/31/2023 2:07 pm : link
In comment 16079227 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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might be my two favorite characters in the entire Breaking Bad/BCS universe. Or atleast up there with Mike. BCS told both of their stories really well and the actors killed it.

Lalo is a complete psycho yet plays it so cool on the surface. And Nacho's inner struggle with his life had you invested in him. Nacho's final scene is one of the more memorable ones in the series imo.




I want a Lalo show.
RE: RE: Re: BCS and Breaking Bad  
mfsd : 3/31/2023 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16079225 Sky King said:
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I have not watched either show...and I see that BCS is the Prequal. Would you recommend watching BCS first or BB first, then BCS second?


I was about to ask the same question.


IMO better to watch Breaking Bad first. A lot of the character development in BCS won’t make as much sense if you aren’t familiar with the characters from BB

As much as you know how the characters end up from watching BB, the backstory of how they get there in BCS is great
Definitely watch BCS. El Camino is... okay.  
Mad Mike : 3/31/2023 3:11 pm : link
I don't want those 2 hours back or anything, but I didn't need it. If you're a breaking bad fan, I think it's worth watching just so you don't wonder what you're missing. But no need to make it a priority. BCS on the other hand - run, don't walk.
RE: Nacho and Lalo  
Fox : 3/31/2023 6:11 pm : link
In comment 16079227 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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might be my two favorite characters in the entire Breaking Bad/BCS universe. Or atleast up there with Mike. BCS told both of their stories really well and the actors killed it.

Lalo is a complete psycho yet plays it so cool on the surface. And Nacho's inner struggle with his life had you invested in him. Nacho's final scene is one of the more memorable ones in the series imo.


Great post.

Loved BCS though it lost me some toward the end. To be fair, so did BB. Still enjoyed both and highly recommend.

BCS takes a bit more patience as it’s not as dramatic from the jump but well worth it. I actually really enjoyed those “slower” episodes/seasons.
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Route 9 : 3/31/2023 6:43 pm : link
El Camino was released when Better Call Saul was on the air. So do whatever you want. I still stand by what I said El Camino didn't serve any purpose.
I liked El Camino and we're  
oghwga : 3/31/2023 7:45 pm : link
Rewatching bcs right now. It's actually better the second time around. Missed a lot the first time.
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John In CO : 3/31/2023 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16079378 Route 9 said:
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El Camino was released when Better Call Saul was on the air. So do whatever you want. I still stand by what I said El Camino didn't serve any purpose.


For me it did. My goal going in to watching that show was to answer the question "what happened to Jesse Pinkman after he busted through that fence" in the last episode. And while I didnt think it was a great movie...more like an additional episode than a movie....it did answer my question.
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Route 9 : 3/31/2023 10:19 pm : link
I don't think the original finale implied any hints that Jesse didn't get away, did it? It just reassured what we already knew. If it was about his life down the road struggling with evading arrest and trying to live without Walt or Skinny Pete or the rest of his ABQ crew helping him out, then yeah, but El Camino *SPOILER!

picked up directly after where BB left off. Everyone looked way older and weird.

I would like a third Breaking Bad show but I think it's time we take a break from these characters. Well at least I want to for a couple of years. A Lalo show would be great. No. Doesn't need to be like six seasons I can deal with one or two seasons or maybe even three at the absolute most.
Everyone I'd recommend you  
Route 9 : 4/1/2023 3:21 am : link
Watch BB first and then watch BCS.

Note: The events in black and white in BCS are AFTER the events that take place in BB. The events in color in BCS are pre Walter White in BB. Better Call Saul (pre Walt) is set around the early 2000s if I rememeber that correctly.
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