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What if we draft Bijan Robinson 1st round?

Rolyrock : 3/31/2023 5:56 pm
Piggy backing on another posters analysis that top CB and WR prospects could be gone by 25 and that if Bijan is there he would be the BPA. Having SB and Bijan on field at same time is intriguing, mybe they could complement each other. At least you know your getting a top play maker who can really catch it for Jones. Glad I'm not a GM .

I  
Eli owns all : 3/31/2023 5:59 pm : link
Got a weird feeling he’s our pick if he’s there
Would be no less of a mistake...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/31/2023 6:01 pm : link
... than taking Barkley in the first round.

2 or 25 this team is not in a position to take a RB with all of the needs they have and all of the talent that will be available at 25.
I’m picking him #1 in my dynasty league  
mattlawson : 3/31/2023 6:04 pm : link
Would he really be there?
What if we draft Bijan Robinson 1st round?  
bwitz : 3/31/2023 6:24 pm : link
He will be a Giant.

Next question.
RE: What if we draft Bijan Robinson 1st round?  
section125 : 3/31/2023 6:31 pm : link
In comment 16079367 bwitz said:
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He will be a Giant.

Next question.


But not likely...
The only way I would be okay with that  
Jay on the Island : 3/31/2023 7:11 pm : link
is if they traded Barkley and landed another late 1st round pick. Even then I would prefer a WR, CB, or DT instead.
My TV  
Joe Beckwith : 3/31/2023 8:00 pm : link
will need to be replaced after only 3 months.
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Big Blue '56 : 3/31/2023 8:09 pm : link
They’re not taking a RB at 25. bw knows why of course
BBI will be must sse  
Darth Paul : 3/31/2023 8:18 pm : link
Just like Philly Sports Radio after a bad Eagles loss.
Love him as a player, but please no  
PatersonPlank : 3/31/2023 8:37 pm : link
.
I keep hearing Schoen talk about positional value  
John In CO : 3/31/2023 8:37 pm : link
and with that, I would be absolutely dumbfounded if he was the pick at 25. Obviously a great player but it would make no sense at all.
Drafting him in the 1st would be  
Bill in UT : 3/31/2023 9:12 pm : link
as stupid as drafting Barkley was
Seems Contrary to Schoen's Stated Philosophy  
OntheRoad : 3/31/2023 9:19 pm : link

of using position value.
The problem with Bijan  
mavric : 4/1/2023 9:41 am : link
is not that he isn't very good, but that he's got a ton of miles on him already. Many analysts that I've read say that he won't last long in the NFL as a no.1 RB because of all the wear and tear already on his body. They could be right. They could be wrong. It's hard to think that the Giants want to go that route. RBs are a dime a dozen, as indicated by their current market value. And they have short careers compared to other positional players. Getting Bijan in the first round is like paying "new price" top dollar for a used Corvette with 130,000 miles. We already have a Ferrari that's been in a couple of wrecks. That is my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.
Article  
CTGiants : 4/1/2023 10:05 am : link
On Where Robinson may end up. I'd rather see him playing for the Giants instead of Dallas.
Link - ( New Window )
He’s a terrific player, but I don’t see the value  
Section331 : 4/1/2023 10:15 am : link
in taking a RB that high when we have Saquon at a reasonable number. I guess they could trade SB, but what is the return, a 3rd round pick? Too many needs to squander a pick on an RB.
RE: What if we draft Bijan Robinson 1st round?  
j_rud : 4/1/2023 10:21 am : link
In comment 16079367 bwitz said:
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He will be a Giant.

Next question.


Or you could, like, talk about the roster implications and front office philosophy cuz, like, it's a discussion board.
 
ryanmkeane : 4/1/2023 11:36 am : link
Nope. Have a feeling Schoen would not value RB in round 1, and definitely right now with Barkley in the plans
Positional value  
JonC : 4/1/2023 11:44 am : link
Read up.
RE: Drafting him in the 1st would be  
BigBlueShock : 4/1/2023 11:51 am : link
In comment 16079496 Bill in UT said:
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as stupid as drafting Barkley was

This is ridiculous. I have no interest in Robinson but the 2nd overall pick is in a different stratosphere than the 25th overall. Not even close to being “as stupid”. Why do people always act like all 1st round picks are equal?
I think it's possible  
JohnF : 4/1/2023 12:39 pm : link
but not just based on Robinson's value.

1) Depending on Barkely is a crapshoot. Based on his recent injury history, it's unlikely you can project a full 17 game season out of SB. And the mileage on Barkely is starting to add up as well. Drafting Robinson would be insurance for the games that Saquon will likely miss.

2) Drafting Bijan would allow one of two things...either letting Saquon go next year, and having his replacement on hand, or letting him go this year (recinding the tag on SB), which would free up $10 million the Giants could use in a WR1 trade. Ideally, this could be done during the draft as a trade.

3) You're preventing Robinson from going to Dallas, where he would be a massive issue when we play them.

Yes, we have many needs, but I'll go back to 1981, when the Giants drafted a Linebacker #2, when the strength of the team was at Linebacker. I'm NOT saying BR is another LT, but good teams often draft to improve their areas of strength (for example, when the Eagles jumped ahead of us to draft DeVonta Smith. That move not only improved them, but hurt the Giants).
RE: The only way I would be okay with that  
AlwaysASpiral : 4/1/2023 12:58 pm : link
In comment 16079392 Jay on the Island said:
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is if they traded Barkley and landed another late 1st round pick. Even then I would prefer a WR, CB, or DT instead.


Well, there is a chance we would take Robinson and then trade Barkley for a pick close behind us. But I think Robinson is gone before 20, more likely 15.

Would be GREAT if we got Robinson, and traded Barkley for a pick that becomes a top 5 receiver from this draft.
If he makes it to us, hopefully they can trade out  
Scyber : 4/1/2023 1:13 pm : link
I don't want to see him on the Cowboys or Eagles.
What is it on this board  
.McL. : 4/1/2023 2:27 pm : link
that so many posters are keen on RBs in the first round.

Did we learn nothing from the recent FA period where the value of RBs tanked.

Please allow me to make this clear. THe value is not there for a RB in the 1st round.

RB is a cheap position. With your first round pick you want to select an expensive position so you can have a very good player on a cost controlled contract for 5 years. That is how you make maximum use of your cap space.

Please, learn about positional value. It is *VERY* important.
RE: What is it on this board  
.McL. : 4/1/2023 2:30 pm : link
In comment 16079843 .McL. said:
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that so many posters are keen on RBs in the first round.

Did we learn nothing from the recent FA period where the value of RBs tanked.

Please allow me to make this clear. THe value is not there for a RB in the 1st round.

RB is a cheap position. With your first round pick you want to select an expensive position so you can have a very good player on a cost controlled contract for 5 years. That is how you make maximum use of your cap space.

Please, learn about positional value. It is *VERY* important.

Further more this isn't the 1970s anymore. Successful teams are not built around the running game. They are built around the passing game. RB is the least impactful position to a team with a good aerial attack.
Then what was the point of franchising Barkley  
jeff57 : 4/1/2023 2:34 pm : link
?
RE: Then what was the point of franchising Barkley  
.McL. : 4/1/2023 7:00 pm : link
In comment 16079848 jeff57 said:
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?

There is none, I think they should pull the tag!
99% likely he won't be there at 25  
dpinzow : 4/1/2023 7:02 pm : link
so I'm not sure why this is a concern
RE: The only way I would be okay with that  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/1/2023 8:49 pm : link
Jay on the Island said:
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is if they traded Barkley and landed another late 1st round pick.

Thing is, wouldn't it make sense for the team on the other side of that transaction to just trade for the Giants' pick and draft Robinson? Might work out nicely for the Giants too: an opportunity to add a valuable pick without moving down much, and keep Robinson from landing in Dallas or Philly.
RE: 99% likely he won't be there at 25  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/1/2023 10:21 pm : link
In comment 16079985 dpinzow said:
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so I'm not sure why this is a concern
Agreed, positional value fades at a certain point and clear bpa should take over before he reaches our spot. If you think you’re getting a CMC-level player he’s easily worth a mid-1st
RE: Would be no less of a mistake...  
Wildcardgiants : 4/1/2023 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16079358 Brown_Hornet said:
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... than taking Barkley in the first round.

2 or 25 this team is not in a position to take a RB with all of the needs they have and all of the talent that will be available at 25.


Yep, we should have taken Sam Darnold or Josh Allen instead [sarcasm off]
no we dont take a RB in round one  
blueblood : 4/1/2023 11:29 pm : link
makes ZERO sense
All faith in Schoen  
Doubledeuce22 : 4/2/2023 10:21 am : link
Will be lost. Nobody cares about RBs these days. Go take a look at the list of star RBs on the trade block and they have gotten virtually zero interest.
RE: RE: Would be no less of a mistake...  
.McL. : 4/2/2023 10:27 am : link
In comment 16080059 Wildcardgiants said:
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In comment 16079358 Brown_Hornet said:


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... than taking Barkley in the first round.

2 or 25 this team is not in a position to take a RB with all of the needs they have and all of the talent that will be available at 25.



Yep, we should have taken Sam Darnold or Josh Allen instead [sarcasm off]
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No, We should have traded down. It is what I argued for at the time. Time has proven that o have been the correct move.
RE: RE: Would be no less of a mistake...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/2/2023 12:53 pm : link
In comment 16080059 Wildcardgiants said:
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In comment 16079358 Brown_Hornet said:


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... than taking Barkley in the first round.

2 or 25 this team is not in a position to take a RB with all of the needs they have and all of the talent that will be available at 25.



Yep, we should have taken Sam Darnold or Josh Allen instead [sarcasm off]
That's what you got out of my comment?

ok?
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