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bluefin : 3/31/2023 7:41 pm
Brunson - Grimes - Barrett - Toppin - Robinson

Big game, let’s go
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RE: Sorry  
Del Shofner : 3/31/2023 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16079499 robbieballs2003 said:
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wow - didn't know Obi had that in him. From what y'all say, sounds like RJ needed a talking-to.
Brunson  
TommyWiseau : 3/31/2023 11:20 pm : link
Is the best FA pickup this team has made in forever. Kid is a baller, worth every damn penny. If we only had moved RJ and picks for Mitchell…
Off topic but the women's final four  
dpinzow : 3/31/2023 11:52 pm : link
was a pretty good encore, from one 40 piece (Brunson) to another (Caitlin Clark)
RJ has no lift  
RAIN : 4/1/2023 12:04 am : link
and a sleeve on his right leg. He was injured late last year, to that knee and hasn't looked particularly good since.

The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.

I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.

They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.

Nets have a really easy last 5 games.  
BigBlueNH : 4/1/2023 12:31 am : link
So the Knicks are probably gonna need to keep playing the games like they matter. If they do, the Nets won't catch them. I like the Knicks chances v the Cavs.
RE: RJ has no lift  
AG5686 : 4/1/2023 4:42 am : link
In comment 16079581 RAIN said:
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and a sleeve on his right leg. He was injured late last year, to that knee and hasn't looked particularly good since.

The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.

I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.

They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.

I have noticed that something has been wrong with his leg too
It's affecting his explosion...he needs to rest it
At this rate with Randle out,  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 8:30 am : link
There is a good chance that Barrett will lead the NBA in getting his shot blocked. He is in 4th place with 90. The leader is at 94.
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Caption this:  
bluefin : 4/1/2023 8:53 am : link
The fastest I’ve seen RJ move all season was getting up  
CooperDash : 4/1/2023 9:00 am : link
from that chair when OBI was laying into him.
I have no idea what happened but I'm team Obi on this.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 9:30 am : link
Obi is a quiet player and always a team first guy. He almost never forces shots. He is always moving the ball to others. For him to get to that point, something bad had to happen. And Barrett was the one who went to him to apologize. Whatever happened, I am kind of glad that it did happen. It is good to see Obi have that passion and not back down. I hope this lights a fire under him.
RE: RJ has no lift  
Enzo : 4/1/2023 9:37 am : link
In comment 16079581 RAIN said:
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and a sleeve on his right leg. He was injured late last year, to that knee and hasn't looked particularly good since.

The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.

I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.

They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.

or maybe he just sucks.
The bench has been incredible lately  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 9:38 am : link
pushing leads to start the 4th and tonight they did it even with the Cavs playing Garland and Mitchell the entire 2nd half, they didnt rest to start the 4th..

The bench was incredible again..

and This game easily could of been a 20 point defecit to start the game and Brunson went shot for shot with Mitchell, thats why he is a star, you know going in you got a guy that can either blow a game open or keep touch with the other team while others struggle..
As for Rj i am so sick of the forced shots  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 9:40 am : link
i dont even care about missed shots, they happen, but why are you still forcing? you habe a guy whose got 48, give him the ball and GTFO of the way..

we dont need you forcing up 3s, we dont need you forcing up floaters over 7 footers and we dont need you dribbling for 20 seconds only to miss at the rim..

There were a couple of times where it looked like he killed momentum and Thibs called timeout and took him out and the Knicks regained control..
Fournier  
Enzo : 4/1/2023 9:46 am : link
can't be any worse at this point. At least he gives you shooting.
I have said this for a good portion of the year ...  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 9:50 am : link
The Knicks will go as far as their defense takes them. Everyone was so worried about losing Randle and his points and rebounds. Look at the last two games. Outside of that crazy first quarter last night, the defense is playing much better. Game is on the line going into the 4th and we hold Cleveland to 14 points? Think about that for a second. We have Hart playing the 4. Yes, Hart. The defense has been s9 much better without Randle. I know it is a small sample size, obviously, but as good as Randle has been on offense this year, he has taken a step back on D. I will say that while Randle is still arguing with refs, at least he isn't staying in the back court complaining while the game is going on. Both him and RJ have been bad defensively this year. To me, that is on Thibs for not holding them accountable. I am enjoying these last two games. Miami scored like 126 points against us two games ago. No way in hell Miami should be scoring like that this year. This small ball lineup is actually having the opposite effect. Most teams go small to get more shooters on the court and increase their scoring. We are going small and our defense is playing better. It's kind of crazy to think about.
And let's give Deuce some credit too.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 9:51 am : link
He had a nice impact when he was in too.
RE: Fournier  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 10:00 am : link
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can't be any worse at this point. At least he gives you shooting.


and at least fournier tries on defense
Barrett is tied for 20th in the NBA in most minutes played.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 10:08 am : link
Why?
I wish the Knicks could jist bench him  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 10:11 am : link
start Hart and use Deuce off the bench..
Dallas is currently tied for the 10 spot in the draft.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 10:21 am : link
They are 3-7 in their last 10.
RE: Barrett is tied for 20th in the NBA in most minutes played.  
Enzo : 4/1/2023 10:31 am : link
In comment 16079682 robbieballs2003 said:
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Why?

Thibs gonna Thibs.
I love this answer  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 10:41 am : link
to see how it affects other teams.
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3-1 each against Miami, Cleveland and Boston.  
bceagle05 : 4/1/2023 12:16 pm : link
I believe we split against Philly. This team is so freaking close to being a legit contender.
And just because I haven’t tallied this in a while….  
bceagle05 : 4/1/2023 12:23 pm : link
Knicks are 35-20 since they shortened the rotation (after falling to 10-13).
RE: 3-1 each against Miami, Cleveland and Boston.  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16079745 bceagle05 said:
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I believe we split against Philly. This team is so freaking close to being a legit contender.


Offseason is going to be interesting
have to see  
Enzo : 4/1/2023 12:34 pm : link
what we can get this summer using the picks (and maybe the Dallas pick if it conveys) for RJ and the Rose/Fournier contracts. And I'm not against moving Mitch in the right deal. RJ/Mitch and stuff for LaVine?

If they can't swing a big trade, all they gotta do is extend IQ and Hart and continue to make incremental improvement where you can. I'd even look to extend iHart if he's willing.
I do wonder if they try for Lillard  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 12:58 pm : link
and trade away Rj and Randle and put defensive wings around Brunson and Lillard..
RE: have to see  
mavric : 4/1/2023 1:39 pm : link
In comment 16079758 Enzo said:
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what we can get this summer using the picks (and maybe the Dallas pick if it conveys) for RJ and the Rose/Fournier contracts. And I'm not against moving Mitch in the right deal. RJ/Mitch and stuff for LaVine?

If they can't swing a big trade, all they gotta do is extend IQ and Hart and continue to make incremental improvement where you can. I'd even look to extend iHart if he's willing.


I wouldn't trade Mitch unless the deal was absurdly favoring the Knicks. As far as Hart goes, he wants NYC and NYC wants him so I'm sure they'll lock him up long term. The Knicks aren't going to let him go. He's pivotal in the defense and a motivator for the other players on the team to go all out, all the time, every minute and every second. Like to see a little of that attitude rub off on RJ.
Love  
DG_89 : 4/1/2023 2:08 pm : link
the win. Love this season overall. Yes there were times Thibs made decisions and the players did that had me screaming at my TV but it is what it is. The playoffs are going to be interesting to say the least. Do we have what it takes to get to round 2? Most importantly do RJ and Julius show up or do they lay another egg? We'll see
No KP, Beal or Kuzma tomorrow  
nygiants16 : 4/1/2023 4:45 pm : link
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RE: No KP, Beal or Kuzma tomorrow  
Vanzetti : 4/1/2023 5:05 pm : link
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Hard to believe that three Ironmen like that would all be missing the game
RE: RE: No KP, Beal or Kuzma tomorrow  
Optimus-NY : 4/1/2023 5:36 pm : link
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Hard to believe that three Ironmen like that would all be missing the game


lol
Knicks without Randle  
jmalls23 : 4/1/2023 6:52 pm : link
I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius
RE: Knicks without Randle  
robbieballs2003 : 4/1/2023 7:04 pm : link
In comment 16079968 jmalls23 said:
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I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius


This.
Mavs at Heat on NBATV  
dpinzow : 4/1/2023 7:52 pm : link
If Dallas beats Miami the Knicks officially clinch a top-6 spot
Unfortunately Dallas continues to suck.  
bceagle05 : 4/1/2023 10:54 pm : link
What a shitshow that franchise is, and it’s all due to the Knicks signing Brunson.
Dallas needs to start winning  
Jan in DC : 4/2/2023 1:05 am : link
or their pick isn't going to convey. I really think the Knicks need to bank a rookie or two for depth in the pipeline and having the 11th pick in the draft is just what the doctor ordered.
RE: RE: Knicks without Randle  
Vanzetti : 4/2/2023 9:42 am : link
In comment 16079989 robbieballs2003 said:
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I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius



This.


I like Julius more than most. He wants so badly to The Man that he forces the issue and winds up hurting the team, especially at the end of games.

In the NBA so many games are decided at the end that Julius is a real liability. Also, Thibs is scared of him, making the situation even worse.

I really hope the Knicks look to move him this summer. His value will never be higher. And he would be a good addition to a team that is a player away.
RE: RE: RE: Knicks without Randle  
robbieballs2003 : 4/2/2023 11:41 am : link
In comment 16080105 Vanzetti said:
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I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius



This.



I like Julius more than most. He wants so badly to The Man that he forces the issue and winds up hurting the team, especially at the end of games.

In the NBA so many games are decided at the end that Julius is a real liability. Also, Thibs is scared of him, making the situation even worse.

I really hope the Knicks look to move him this summer. His value will never be higher. And he would be a good addition to a team that is a player away.


I'm similar to this except I am not a fan of Randle but I can admit when he is playing wel. He has been unreal this year offensively. My issues with him are his effort on D and I feel he is a mental midget. Letting other players or refs get in his head and now even teammates just shows why nobody should trust him when the game is on the line. To summarize, I just don't see him as a winning player.
I was really down  
Enzo : 4/2/2023 11:50 am : link
on Randle after last season due to his various on court antics. I started to come around on him this year but ironically it was the two huge wins vs. Miami and Boston where I pretty much decided he can't be trusted. In both games he botched multiple possessions down the stretch. Even on his game winning three pointer vs. Miami he nearly lost the ball TWICE on that possession. Brunson and IQ should be the main options at the end of games.

He's crazy productive and can be a real beast. But smart defenders know how to frustrate him.
With Randle  
nygiants16 : 4/2/2023 12:17 pm : link
He can flat out take over games with Brunson finishing it, sprinkle in the bench in between and that has been the recipe for the Knicks most of the season..

When Randle is by himself, unless he is absolutely scorching, the offense is not going to look good, its going to be 1 on 1 and if double comes find the open man, thats the offense..

When Randle is out, of course their is more ball mpvement, defense is more intense, and they are going to run more because they have to, thats their recipe without randle..

No doubt Brunson is the most important player on this team he is the engine and the closer, Randle is number 2 though, Randle and Brunson take pressure off of each other..
Monte Morris is also out  
nygiants16 : 4/2/2023 12:24 pm : link
..
Randle is our alpha dog  
AG5686 : 4/2/2023 12:25 pm : link
But I do think this can be a blessing in disguise here...Randle needs to rest and other guys need a chance to earn playoff PT
Rj barrett out  
nygiants16 : 4/2/2023 4:19 pm : link
illness
RE: Rj barrett out  
BigBlueShock : 4/2/2023 4:25 pm : link
In comment 16080293 nygiants16 said:
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illness

Maybe it’s just me but it sure does seem like RJ gets sick an awful lot
RE: Rj barrett out  
AG5686 : 4/2/2023 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16080293 nygiants16 said:
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illness

Ugggg
Of course Chicago is destroying Memphis.  
bceagle05 : 4/2/2023 5:43 pm : link
Whole league is conspiring to keep that Dallas pick from us.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/2/2023 5:45 pm : link
Wait what? Grizz were dominating when I checked score earlier.
Who is starting the game thread  
robbieballs2003 : 4/2/2023 5:48 pm : link
?
Chicago outscored them 40-16 in the third  
bceagle05 : 4/2/2023 5:48 pm : link
to take control. They’re up double digits in the final minute.
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