It was a major f*!k up.
Let's say it was RJ, Grimes and the picks.
Where would this team be right now? Unless they make a move for a star Rose will always be known for the deal he didn't make.
I always defend him but man he has made so many stupid plays tonight get him the fuck off the court . Terrible fast breaks , then stepping on the line , forcing up shit at the basket etc
On a note note im really worried about Rj. He looks lost out there like his brain is shut off during the game and the Knicks are going to need him to play well to have any chance to win in the playoffs
On a note note im really worried about Rj. He looks lost out there like his brain is shut off during the game and the Knicks are going to need him to play well to have any chance to win in the playoffs
Thibs really has to earn his money when it comes to refocusing RJ. The Knicks have enough to really threaten with an RJ playing well but don't have enough scoring or defense when he's playing like this. Hopefully Obi reading him the riot act on the bench was the start of a turnaround
and a sleeve on his right leg. He was injured late last year, to that knee and hasn't looked particularly good since.
The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.
I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.
They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.
So the Knicks are probably gonna need to keep playing the games like they matter. If they do, the Nets won't catch them. I like the Knicks chances v the Cavs.
and a sleeve on his right leg. He was injured late last year, to that knee and hasn't looked particularly good since.
The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.
I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.
They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.
I have noticed that something has been wrong with his leg too
It's affecting his explosion...he needs to rest it
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Obi is a quiet player and always a team first guy. He almost never forces shots. He is always moving the ball to others. For him to get to that point, something bad had to happen. And Barrett was the one who went to him to apologize. Whatever happened, I am kind of glad that it did happen. It is good to see Obi have that passion and not back down. I hope this lights a fire under him.
and a sleeve on his right leg. He was injured late last year, to that knee and hasn't looked particularly good since.
The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.
I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.
They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.
pushing leads to start the 4th and tonight they did it even with the Cavs playing Garland and Mitchell the entire 2nd half, they didnt rest to start the 4th..
The bench was incredible again..
and This game easily could of been a 20 point defecit to start the game and Brunson went shot for shot with Mitchell, thats why he is a star, you know going in you got a guy that can either blow a game open or keep touch with the other team while others struggle..
i dont even care about missed shots, they happen, but why are you still forcing? you habe a guy whose got 48, give him the ball and GTFO of the way..
we dont need you forcing up 3s, we dont need you forcing up floaters over 7 footers and we dont need you dribbling for 20 seconds only to miss at the rim..
There were a couple of times where it looked like he killed momentum and Thibs called timeout and took him out and the Knicks regained control..
The Knicks will go as far as their defense takes them. Everyone was so worried about losing Randle and his points and rebounds. Look at the last two games. Outside of that crazy first quarter last night, the defense is playing much better. Game is on the line going into the 4th and we hold Cleveland to 14 points? Think about that for a second. We have Hart playing the 4. Yes, Hart. The defense has been s9 much better without Randle. I know it is a small sample size, obviously, but as good as Randle has been on offense this year, he has taken a step back on D. I will say that while Randle is still arguing with refs, at least he isn't staying in the back court complaining while the game is going on. Both him and RJ have been bad defensively this year. To me, that is on Thibs for not holding them accountable. I am enjoying these last two games. Miami scored like 126 points against us two games ago. No way in hell Miami should be scoring like that this year. This small ball lineup is actually having the opposite effect. Most teams go small to get more shooters on the court and increase their scoring. We are going small and our defense is playing better. It's kind of crazy to think about.
what we can get this summer using the picks (and maybe the Dallas pick if it conveys) for RJ and the Rose/Fournier contracts. And I'm not against moving Mitch in the right deal. RJ/Mitch and stuff for LaVine?
If they can't swing a big trade, all they gotta do is extend IQ and Hart and continue to make incremental improvement where you can. I'd even look to extend iHart if he's willing.
what we can get this summer using the picks (and maybe the Dallas pick if it conveys) for RJ and the Rose/Fournier contracts. And I'm not against moving Mitch in the right deal. RJ/Mitch and stuff for LaVine?
If they can't swing a big trade, all they gotta do is extend IQ and Hart and continue to make incremental improvement where you can. I'd even look to extend iHart if he's willing.
I wouldn't trade Mitch unless the deal was absurdly favoring the Knicks. As far as Hart goes, he wants NYC and NYC wants him so I'm sure they'll lock him up long term. The Knicks aren't going to let him go. He's pivotal in the defense and a motivator for the other players on the team to go all out, all the time, every minute and every second. Like to see a little of that attitude rub off on RJ.
the win. Love this season overall. Yes there were times Thibs made decisions and the players did that had me screaming at my TV but it is what it is. The playoffs are going to be interesting to say the least. Do we have what it takes to get to round 2? Most importantly do RJ and Julius show up or do they lay another egg? We'll see
or their pick isn't going to convey. I really think the Knicks need to bank a rookie or two for depth in the pipeline and having the 11th pick in the draft is just what the doctor ordered.
I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius
This.
I like Julius more than most. He wants so badly to The Man that he forces the issue and winds up hurting the team, especially at the end of games.
In the NBA so many games are decided at the end that Julius is a real liability. Also, Thibs is scared of him, making the situation even worse.
I really hope the Knicks look to move him this summer. His value will never be higher. And he would be a good addition to a team that is a player away.
I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius
This.
I like Julius more than most. He wants so badly to The Man that he forces the issue and winds up hurting the team, especially at the end of games.
In the NBA so many games are decided at the end that Julius is a real liability. Also, Thibs is scared of him, making the situation even worse.
I really hope the Knicks look to move him this summer. His value will never be higher. And he would be a good addition to a team that is a player away.
I'm similar to this except I am not a fan of Randle but I can admit when he is playing wel. He has been unreal this year offensively. My issues with him are his effort on D and I feel he is a mental midget. Letting other players or refs get in his head and now even teammates just shows why nobody should trust him when the game is on the line. To summarize, I just don't see him as a winning player.
on Randle after last season due to his various on court antics. I started to come around on him this year but ironically it was the two huge wins vs. Miami and Boston where I pretty much decided he can't be trusted. In both games he botched multiple possessions down the stretch. Even on his game winning three pointer vs. Miami he nearly lost the ball TWICE on that possession. Brunson and IQ should be the main options at the end of games.
He's crazy productive and can be a real beast. But smart defenders know how to frustrate him.
He can flat out take over games with Brunson finishing it, sprinkle in the bench in between and that has been the recipe for the Knicks most of the season..
When Randle is by himself, unless he is absolutely scorching, the offense is not going to look good, its going to be 1 on 1 and if double comes find the open man, thats the offense..
When Randle is out, of course their is more ball mpvement, defense is more intense, and they are going to run more because they have to, thats their recipe without randle..
No doubt Brunson is the most important player on this team he is the engine and the closer, Randle is number 2 though, Randle and Brunson take pressure off of each other..
8-8 21 points with 3 minutes to go in the 1st
Let's say it was RJ, Grimes and the picks.
Where would this team be right now? Unless they make a move for a star Rose will always be known for the deal he didn't make.
Disgusting.
Nice tip in by Mitch.
he
Hart cooled him off a bit.
Hart isn't quick enough to guard Mitchell. McBride is probably the only guy quick enough. Mitchell is really quick. He practically broke Grimes ankles
Obi Just got in his face
Wtf
Obi Just got in his face
Wtf
That was probably due to that fast break that RJ messed up a little earlier
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Bring back Brunson and glue Rj to the bench
Isaiah Hartenstein = Anvil
Josh Hart = Hitman
thankfully, there’s too much time left
Amazing.
BIG TIME WIN.
Big fucking time.
Another note: Hartenstein once again played the entire 4th quarter at center
Hart put Mitchell on lockdown in that 4th
Point God.
15-6 with him - right around a 60-win pace.
Hart put Mitchell on lockdown in that 4th
Check what I said earlier in the thread...just put Hart on whoever the other team's best guard or small forward is
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The cavs and Mitchell couldnt shoot any better than they did in that 1st quarter and then the Knicks locked in..
Hart put Mitchell on lockdown in that 4th
Check what I said earlier in the thread...just put Hart on whoever the other team's best guard or small forward is
two games in a row he has locked down the other teams best player in the 4th
Refs got quiet after they blew calling that kick to Hartensteins gut - like they weren’t going to whistle anything that wasn’t crystal clear.
Thibs really has to earn his money when it comes to refocusing RJ. The Knicks have enough to really threaten with an RJ playing well but don't have enough scoring or defense when he's playing like this. Hopefully Obi reading him the riot act on the bench was the start of a turnaround
wow - didn't know Obi had that in him. From what y'all say, sounds like RJ needed a talking-to.
The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.
I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.
They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.
The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.
I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.
They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.
I have noticed that something has been wrong with his leg too
It's affecting his explosion...he needs to rest it
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The media hasn't talked about it, but he favors the leg in all/every movement i've seen. I wouldn't be surprised if he has surgery in the off-season. I'm thinking the Knicks are keeping things quiet and he's gutting his way through it.
I'm not an orthopedist, or dr., but i'm guessing something is going on with him, as he doesn't fully put weight on that leg, his jump leg when finishing with his left hand.
They need to limit his minutes and he needs to figure out a way to get some more explosion in his game. Whatever weight he added in the post season of 22 is not helping.
or maybe he just sucks.
The bench was incredible again..
and This game easily could of been a 20 point defecit to start the game and Brunson went shot for shot with Mitchell, thats why he is a star, you know going in you got a guy that can either blow a game open or keep touch with the other team while others struggle..
we dont need you forcing up 3s, we dont need you forcing up floaters over 7 footers and we dont need you dribbling for 20 seconds only to miss at the rim..
There were a couple of times where it looked like he killed momentum and Thibs called timeout and took him out and the Knicks regained control..
and at least fournier tries on defense
Thibs gonna Thibs.
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Offseason is going to be interesting
If they can't swing a big trade, all they gotta do is extend IQ and Hart and continue to make incremental improvement where you can. I'd even look to extend iHart if he's willing.
If they can't swing a big trade, all they gotta do is extend IQ and Hart and continue to make incremental improvement where you can. I'd even look to extend iHart if he's willing.
I wouldn't trade Mitch unless the deal was absurdly favoring the Knicks. As far as Hart goes, he wants NYC and NYC wants him so I'm sure they'll lock him up long term. The Knicks aren't going to let him go. He's pivotal in the defense and a motivator for the other players on the team to go all out, all the time, every minute and every second. Like to see a little of that attitude rub off on RJ.
Hard to believe that three Ironmen like that would all be missing the game
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Hard to believe that three Ironmen like that would all be missing the game
lol
This.
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I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius
This.
I like Julius more than most. He wants so badly to The Man that he forces the issue and winds up hurting the team, especially at the end of games.
In the NBA so many games are decided at the end that Julius is a real liability. Also, Thibs is scared of him, making the situation even worse.
I really hope the Knicks look to move him this summer. His value will never be higher. And he would be a good addition to a team that is a player away.
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I watch every game and it’s so sad I’m so excited to watch the Knicks w/o Julius
This.
I like Julius more than most. He wants so badly to The Man that he forces the issue and winds up hurting the team, especially at the end of games.
In the NBA so many games are decided at the end that Julius is a real liability. Also, Thibs is scared of him, making the situation even worse.
I really hope the Knicks look to move him this summer. His value will never be higher. And he would be a good addition to a team that is a player away.
I'm similar to this except I am not a fan of Randle but I can admit when he is playing wel. He has been unreal this year offensively. My issues with him are his effort on D and I feel he is a mental midget. Letting other players or refs get in his head and now even teammates just shows why nobody should trust him when the game is on the line. To summarize, I just don't see him as a winning player.
He's crazy productive and can be a real beast. But smart defenders know how to frustrate him.
When Randle is by himself, unless he is absolutely scorching, the offense is not going to look good, its going to be 1 on 1 and if double comes find the open man, thats the offense..
When Randle is out, of course their is more ball mpvement, defense is more intense, and they are going to run more because they have to, thats their recipe without randle..
No doubt Brunson is the most important player on this team he is the engine and the closer, Randle is number 2 though, Randle and Brunson take pressure off of each other..
Maybe it’s just me but it sure does seem like RJ gets sick an awful lot
Ugggg