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NYG Mount Rushmore #1 picks in Super Bowl Era

bobtucker38 : 4/1/2023 4:06 am
LT.,Carl Banks, Phil Simms, Brad Van Pelt
I know BVP had the surfer good looks, but…  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/1/2023 5:01 am : link
… no way he goes on the mountain ahead of Harry Carson, an all-time great whose face was basically chiseled granite in real life. Van Pelt vs. Banks might be a debate. Justin Tuck would be in that mix too. As for Phil, expect pushback from Eli supporters, although I think Manning would look even goofier carved into a cliff.

LT is the one no-brainer. The other spots are all competitive: Simms/Manning, Banks/Van Pelt/Tuck, and Parcells/Coughlin/Young.

We’re gonna need a bigger mountain. It was easier with presidents because so many of them, as of 1927, had totally sucked. At least the sponsors had the sense not to carve Andrew Jackson into sacred native land.

Boring  
Daniel in Kentucky : 4/1/2023 5:09 am : link
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Obviously a couple of people coming off of  
map7711 : 4/1/2023 7:17 am : link
A bender on a Friday nite. Lol.
Eli was not a #1 pick  
Gman11 : 4/1/2023 7:40 am : link
he was acquired in a trade.

If I remember correctly Justin Tuck was drafted in the third round.
The talk here  
k2tampa : 4/1/2023 8:21 am : link
around draft time usually includes how bad the Giants have done in the third round, but when you look at the last 30 years of first round picks, how many could be called the best ever at the position for the Giants? Probably Beckham, but his time here was short. Hampton? Hopefully the last five years of first rounders will change that trend. Thomas and Lawrence are on the right track.
VanPelt  
Pepe LePugh : 4/1/2023 8:23 am : link
Second round I thought
Ah, was thinking “Number 1 Picks” was priority…  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/1/2023 8:24 am : link
…not draft position.

Van Pelt was selected in the middle of the second round, although he was the Giants’ first pick.
Eli was the #1 pick in the draft  
UConn4523 : 4/1/2023 8:25 am : link
and whether picks/players were swapped before or right after doesn’t change that.
How about a Mount Rushmore for coaches?  
Marty in Albany : 4/1/2023 8:41 am : link
I'll spot you Lombardi, Landry, Parcells, and Coughlin.
RE: How about a Mount Rushmore for coaches?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/1/2023 9:34 am : link
In comment 16079626 Marty in Albany said:
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I'll spot you Lombardi, Landry, Parcells, and Coughlin.


Nah, Steve Owen would have to be first. 24 years as head coach. More wins in NYG history (153) and second place isn't even close. Two NFL titles. Eight title game appearances.
RE: How about a Mount Rushmore for coaches?  
k2tampa : 4/1/2023 9:50 am : link
In comment 16079626 Marty in Albany said:
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I'll spot you Lombardi, Landry, Parcells, and Coughlin.


Landry wasn't a head coach. If he's in Belichik is certainly in.
Assuming Eli is eligible  
mfjmfj : 4/1/2023 10:21 am : link
it is Simms, LT, Banks, Manning

If Manning is not available and assuming it has to actually be a 1st round pick, there is no clear 4th. In terms of quality of player it is OBJ. In terms of contribution I would take JPP, but expect him to be soon supplanted by Dex or AT.

If the list is the first player the giants picked in the draft then I would probably add JPP over Van Pelt. BVP was my favorite player when I was a kid (I was pissed when we picked Banks) but JPP had a huge impact on us winning a SB and that counts for a lot.
RE: Ah, was thinking “Number 1 Picks” was priority…  
Ivan15 : 4/1/2023 10:24 am : link
In comment 16079621 Big Blue Blogger said:
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…not draft position.

Van Pelt was selected in the middle of the second round, although he was the Giants’ first pick.
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If we were talking about the first Giants pick in any draft year, Strahan would have to be included too. In 1993, the Giants used their first round pick in the Supplemental Draft and selected Dave Brown.
the thread is Giant draft picks  
Dave on the UWS : 4/1/2023 10:35 am : link
Eli came in trade.
Strahan would have to be in there although he was a second rd pick, he was the first choice they have, so I'm cheating a bit.
I watched  
PaulN : 4/1/2023 10:42 am : link
Van Pelts entire career, and Banks. Here is something that often happens, Brad Van Pelt is a player, in my opinion, that is overrated by Giant fans, while Carl Banks is a player that us underrated by Giants fans. They were both very good players, but in my opinion, Banks was the better player. His run defense was sensational.
RE: I watched  
mfjmfj : 4/1/2023 11:11 am : link
In comment 16079702 PaulN said:
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Van Pelts entire career, and Banks. Here is something that often happens, Brad Van Pelt is a player, in my opinion, that is overrated by Giant fans, while Carl Banks is a player that us underrated by Giants fans. They were both very good players, but in my opinion, Banks was the better player. His run defense was sensational.


In our 1986 playoff run, he was the best player on our defense. I believe Harry Carson made the Hall of Fame only because he played with LT. Carl Banks did not make the Hall of Fame because he played with LT.
RE: the thread is Giant draft picks  
mfjmfj : 4/1/2023 11:13 am : link
In comment 16079699 Dave on the UWS said:
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Eli came in trade.
Strahan would have to be in there although he was a second rd pick, he was the first choice they have, so I'm cheating a bit.


If Strahan is eligible he has to be on there. He is the fourth if Eli is not eligible. Otherwise he replaces Simms.
RE: RE: I watched  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/1/2023 11:43 am : link
In comment 16079712 mfjmfj said:
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In comment 16079702 PaulN said:


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Van Pelts entire career, and Banks. Here is something that often happens, Brad Van Pelt is a player, in my opinion, that is overrated by Giant fans, while Carl Banks is a player that us underrated by Giants fans. They were both very good players, but in my opinion, Banks was the better player. His run defense was sensational.



In our 1986 playoff run, he was the best player on our defense. I believe Harry Carson made the Hall of Fame only because he played with LT. Carl Banks did not make the Hall of Fame because he played with LT.


Harry Carson was making Pro Bowls on a terrible Giants team before LT was even in the NFL.
Honestly, the Giants had a long string of shit #1 picks in the 90s  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/1/2023 12:21 pm : link
...and the 2000s and Reese 2010s picks weren't all that impressive either, to be honest, apart from Shockey, Nicks, JPP and OBJ. The other "good" picks were really just JAGs if you are being honest.

So maybe the OP's list isn't far off.
Giants haven't drafted well overall  
allstarjim : 4/1/2023 1:25 pm : link
in the first round.

But I'll go: Obviously LT, then Banks, JPP, and I got to give some love to Rodney Hampton. But you have guys that could eventually get on this list in time with Andrew Thomas, Dexter Lawrence, even Saquon. And I'll pound the table for JPP's inclusion.

Honorable mention to Hakeem Nicks.
Van Pelt and Harry Carson were not first rounders  
allstarjim : 4/1/2023 1:26 pm : link
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