NFT: NHL Playoffs are here! Starts tonight

Leafs finally make it out of the first round.

Dallas & EDM in the Western Conference Final.

Any East predictions would be too influenced by bias (LGI!)

Glad they avoided the b's although I would have loved to see them with a chance to make the best regular season in NHL history an afterthought.

Edmonton over Colorado

and Boston over NJ.

Boston wins it all.

Carolina after they swept us in the second round in 2019.

Having said that......

Boston beats Toronto and Colorado beats Dallas.

Boston wins the cup in 6

of the Rangers chances. Check the records for the last 60 games of the regular season. They were pretty damn good.
Can't see anyone stopping Boston (barring injury of course)

In comment 16090165 JayBinQueens said:

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Leafs finally make it out of the first round. Dallas & EDM in the Western Conference Final. Any East predictions would be too influenced by bias (LGI!)

I think the Leafs could take out Tampa this year, too.

In comment 16090183 Dave on the UWS said:

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of the Rangers chances. Check the records for the last 60 games of the regular season. They were pretty damn good. Can't see anyone stopping Boston (barring injury of course)

FWIW, Barry Melrose said today the one team in the East that could knock off the Bruins are the Rangers. I don't think the Bruins are invincible and the Panthers are not going to lay down in this series against them, either.

and will be fucking nervous until the playoffs are no more. Hopefully for the Rangers that's well into June. That's all I got.

Go Canes! Beat the Fish Sticks! LOL

East-Rangers vs Boston
West-Colorado vs Edmonton

Colorado vs Rangers

Colorado in a heartbreaker for me (7 games)

Sorry I am a Ranger fan so I am completely bias and hope we go through the Devils, Islanders, and Boston. Settle all family business this playoffs.

In comment 16090196 larryflower37 said:

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East-Rangers vs Boston West-Colorado vs Edmonton Colorado vs Rangers Colorado in a heartbreaker for me (7 games) Sorry I am a Ranger fan so I am completely bias and hope we go through the Devils, Islanders, and Boston. Settle all family business this playoffs.

I am a Rangers fan that is so down on this team and I can't really understand why. They have played well over the last 60 games, but I just can't see a long run this post-season. Desperately hope I am wrong--there is nothing like a hockey run in the playoffs. Just some of the most fun you can get out of sports.

a bit pessimistic considering the East this year is a gauntlet.

In comment 16090202 Essex said:

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In comment 16090196 larryflower37 said: Quote: East-Rangers vs Boston West-Colorado vs Edmonton Colorado vs Rangers Colorado in a heartbreaker for me (7 games) Sorry, I am a Ranger fan so I am completely biased and hope we go through the Devils, Islanders, and Boston. Settle all family business these playoffs. I am a Rangers fan that is so down on this team and I can't really understand why. They have played well over the last 60 games, but I can't see a long run this post-season. I desperately hope I am wrong--there is nothing like a hockey run in the playoffs. Just some of the most fun you can get out of sports.

Damn, I agree but I think this team is better suited for playoff hockey. Boston is the only team that really scares me with that said it is a gauntlet to get to the finals.
Crazy that in the first 2 series, they could get to sleep in their own beds every night.

I never expect the Rangers to win it because of their history, but I sure hope they do. And I think they have a legit chance.

FWIW, both Brooks and Walker in the NYP have the Bs beating the Rangers in 7 in the East finals.

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In comment 16090211 larryflower37 said:

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In comment 16090202 Essex said: Quote: In comment 16090196 larryflower37 said: Quote: East-Rangers vs Boston West-Colorado vs Edmonton Colorado vs Rangers Colorado in a heartbreaker for me (7 games) Sorry, I am a Ranger fan so I am completely biased and hope we go through the Devils, Islanders, and Boston. Settle all family business these playoffs. I am a Rangers fan that is so down on this team and I can't really understand why. They have played well over the last 60 games, but I can't see a long run this post-season. I desperately hope I am wrong--there is nothing like a hockey run in the playoffs. Just some of the most fun you can get out of sports. Damn, I agree but I think this team is better suited for playoff hockey. Boston is the only team that really scares me with that said it is a gauntlet to get to the finals. Crazy that in the first 2 series, they could get to sleep in their own beds every night.

If the Rangers advance this year, it would be of benefit for them to not have to go 7 games every series. It eventually caught up to them vs Tampa last year. I'm a little anxious for this series vs the Devils. I don't like how the Rangers played since they clinched a playoff spot.

Pumped for tonight.
Hoping it's the start of a deep run.

But Devs make it there at least!
Best playoff format of any sport.

LGR!!

....having some issues with the flu running thru the locker room. Bergeron is in doubt for tonight, also has an injury of some sort.

Will be interesting to see how the Bruins fare playing a team over a 4-7 game series. Does their depth wear down the other team or do teams find weaknesses to exploit.

And yes Ulmark is the best goalie in the league this year but he doesn't have a playoff win career wise...plus he's got some injury or flu too. As does the backup Swayman.

Going to be a great playoff overall, esp in the East.

After carefully analyzing everyone’s weaknesses and strengths I have determined the below team to be the winner of the East….

The TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS!

I know some of you are wondering how I cannot anoint the Bruins, the obvious choice….but to my recollection their goalie has never won a playoff game and has the flu….this could affect him these first two games at least. Toronto is healthy and brimming with confidence. Oh, 4 other reasons….

Matthews
Marner
Taveras
Nylander

I don’t think they have said yet, but they have a goalie named WOLL who is the next big thing. I expect Sammy to start, but if he falters, watch for the Big Woll! You heard it here first….

Go Leafs Go!

Bruins in 5
Leafs in 6
Canes in 6
Rangers in 6

Knights in 6
Oilers in 7
Avalanche in 5
Wild in 7

Heavily biased Rangers over Bruins in the ECF
Oilers over Wild in WCF

Rangers over Oilers for the Cup

I know next to nothing about the NHL, but there's some so called 'Presidents' Trophy' curse, or so I read on The Athletic.

It'd be cool if the Oilers won. That one guy of theirs is amazing. Playoff hockey is awesome though. Very intense.

...is just plain stupid. They do it in all sports and I wish it would stop already.

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...is just plain stupid. They do it in all sports and I wish it would stop already.

***...i mean interviewing coaches during the game.

In comment 16090411 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I know next to nothing about the NHL, but there's some so called 'Presidents' Trophy' curse, or so I read on The Athletic. It'd be cool if the Oilers won. That one guy of theirs is amazing. Playoff hockey is awesome though. Very intense.

Yep, it's awarded to the best regular season team

with 1 of the worst calls on the islanders leads to a pp goal.

In comment 16090411 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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I know next to nothing about the NHL, but there's some so called 'Presidents' Trophy' curse, or so I read on The Athletic. It'd be cool if the Oilers won. That one guy of theirs is amazing. Playoff hockey is awesome though. Very intense.

I agree 100%, nothing like playoff hockey

to wake up and see the Kings beat the Oilers 4-3 in OT. I went to bed late last night in the 3rd period of that game with the Oilers being up 3-1 late 3rd period.

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In comment 16090449 Pete in CO said: Quote: ...is just plain stupid. They do it in all sports and I wish it would stop already. ***...i mean interviewing coaches during the game.

Agreed. It adds nothing to the broadcast. I hate when coaches/players are interviewed during the game in any sport.

but did not play a great game at all offensively. Hope for a better effort game 2. Dallas-Minnesota game was excellent. Watched until almost 2am and am paying the price today.

for the most of the third period. Carolina's defense really is suffocating. Isles are going to have to shoot the puck a lot, even some low pct% shots, and crash the net hard. It'll lead to some CAR breakaways I'm sure, but they aren't going to be able to win the series playing more games like Game 1.

and only hung on 2-1. ranta played great, their d was really good, they got the better whistle, barzal was rusty and blew 2 great chances, nelson was mostly invisible and missed a golden one at the end.

2 pretty evenly matched teams imo, will hopefully be a fun series that goes the distance.

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and only hung on 2-1. ranta played great, their d was really good, they got the better whistle, barzal was rusty and blew 2 great chances, nelson was mostly invisible and missed a golden one at the end. 2 pretty evenly matched teams imo, will hopefully be a fun series that goes the distance.

It looked more like a 4/5 matchup than it did a 2/7. Need to get 1 on Wednesday

Ullmark looked fine to me. In fact, no one was out with the flu. Bergeron was hurt in the last game of the season.

Carolina is too strong for Isles. Isles will be competitive but lose by one goal every game. Sorry, that’s how I see it.

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Ullmark looked fine to me. In fact, no one was out with the flu. Bergeron was hurt in the last game of the season. Carolina is too strong for Isles. Isles will be competitive but lose by one goal every game. Sorry, that’s how I see it.

The Bruins were flopping around the ice like a bunch of flounders and the refs ate it up, 2 PP's in the first 5 min. Too much to overcome - especially with Lyon, who actually played great - so not pinning game 1 on him, giving up a back breaking softie on the Marchand shot.

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In comment 16090727 5BowlsSoon said: Quote: Ullmark looked fine to me. In fact, no one was out with the flu. Bergeron was hurt in the last game of the season. Carolina is too strong for Isles. Isles will be competitive but lose by one goal every game. Sorry, that’s how I see it. The Bruins were flopping around the ice like a bunch of flounders and the refs ate it up, 2 PP's in the first 5 min. Too much to overcome - especially with Lyon, who actually played great - so not pinning game 1 on him, giving up a back breaking softie on the Marchand shot.

Huh? The interference call was legit and the Pastrnak trip was questionable. But Marchand was certainly high sticked in the face before all of that.........

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In comment 16090730 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 16090727 5BowlsSoon said: Quote: Ullmark looked fine to me. In fact, no one was out with the flu. Bergeron was hurt in the last game of the season. Carolina is too strong for Isles. Isles will be competitive but lose by one goal every game. Sorry, that’s how I see it. The Bruins were flopping around the ice like a bunch of flounders and the refs ate it up, 2 PP's in the first 5 min. Too much to overcome - especially with Lyon, who actually played great - so not pinning game 1 on him, giving up a back breaking softie on the Marchand shot. Huh? The interference call was legit and the Pastrnak trip was questionable. But Marchand was certainly high sticked in the face before all of that.........

The way I saw it, Marchand tried to sell the call and reacted less to the high stick more to the contact. None of those other two were playoff penalties IMO - or no different than plays the Bruins were making. All borderline and in the playoffs if it's borderline I try and be consistent and draw the line. IMO it was not consistent.

And McAvoy (who I'm a big fan of), accused the Panthers of diving after he cross checked someone in a scrum. For the record, I thought that was a bad call too.

Are you ready to see my Leaf’s finally get out of the first round?

For what it’s worth, after Habs beat my boys in the playoffs a few years ago, I rooted for them to go all the way. I figured if you were good enough to best my boys you deserve to win it all. You almost did….

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Are you ready to see my Leaf’s finally get out of the first round? For what it’s worth, after Habs beat my boys in the playoffs a few years ago, I rooted for them to go all the way. I figured if you were good enough to best my boys you deserve to win it all. You almost did….

The Leafs should beat Tampa, but as usual for them it's a tough match up they could lose. Tampa looks old and slow, but still have the key elements to winning in the playoffs, goalie, good specials, skill and grit.

Good luck, 5 bowls, I'm hoping you get a good result, but I can't root for the Leafs.

Cooper is also a master strategist.

The Lightning toggled their system against NYR and neutralized them in the ECF in games 3-6. Hedman is declining and they aren't as good as they once were. Keefe might be good but Cooper and Sullivan are the best at this IMO.

Pj: I honestly didn’t expect you to say you would root for the Leafs. In fact, many Leaf fans mocked me greatly for my support for your boys that playoffs. I know the rivalry is intense, but I have always at least admired the many great Hab teams in the 60s and 70s as I watched Hockey Night in Canada practically every Wednesday and Saturday.

Brett: I sure hope your assessment is off a bit and doesn’t materialize. Plus, I can’t stand Cooper….arrogant prick if you ask me..

series starts for TOR and NJD.

when TBL is getting goals from Bellemare you know you're in for a long night. He had 4 goals in 73 regular season games.

NJD played well for long stretches - and dominated at times, but my biggest concern for them, goalie, showed up. And not to say Vanecek is why they lost (he made some good saves), when I ranked the NYR over NJD and fans asked me why since NJD had a better record it was because I believed Igor can steal a game and I was not sure if Vanecek could. Well Igor did. He was incredible. And the Rangers had all the elements of my post-season formula working - goalie (check), specials (2/3 on the PP and 4/4 on the PK), skill (check), and grit (check) (23 blocked shots - grit is not just dropping the gloves - in fact it's not dropping the gloves at all - it's working the corners, blocking shots, hits, back checking).

Both NJD and TOR have a lot of pressure to win game 2 (captain obvious?)

SEA over COL was the only real surprise for me last night and I didn't watch a second of it - COL had been red hot heading in to the playoffs.

Still too numb to comment…..

In comment 16091146 BrettNYG10 said:

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Cooper is also a master strategist. The Lightning toggled their system against NYR and neutralized them in the ECF in games 3-6. Hedman is declining and they aren't as good as they once were. Keefe might be good but Cooper and Sullivan are the best at this IMO.

Even before this, in some ways, the Lightning scare me more than the Bruins do. The Lightning have had the Rangers number the past few seasons.

are the most complete team I can recall in recent memory.

If they lose it will take a perfect effort from the team who beats them.

Ullmark/Swayman was my last hope, but Ullmark looked great in game 1.

They played without their captain and 1C in game 1 and dominated the dots and beat a really good team. Bergeron will probably be back tonight.

Tampa is nowhere near Boston (IMO).

In comment 16091664 pjcas18 said:

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are the most complete team I can recall in recent memory. If they lose it will take a perfect effort from the team who beats them. Ullmark/Swayman was my last hope, but Ullmark looked great in game 1. They played without their captain and 1C in game 1 and dominated the dots and beat a really good team. Bergeron will probably be back tonight. Tampa is nowhere near Boston (IMO).

Talent-wise, no, but I also know that the Lightning are the ones who kicked the Rangers out of the playoffs the past few years and Vasilevskiy seems to play very well in the Playoffs against the Rangers.

They need better goaltending but if Hedman misses a game or two that could flip things a bit.

NJD will push back too, that was a nervous start for them but they still have a killer roster. That series will go long imo.

definitely not writing anyone off after 1 game.

In some regards it's maybe better off for TOR and NJD to get blown out than to lose a heart breaker. the embarrassment may be more of a motivator than the heart break would have been.

not really playoff per se, but it's always reinforcing IMO to see how healthy teams were/are and how they fared.

Most playoff teams were healthy and most of the heavily injured teams did not make the playoffs.

COL and LVG did the most with the worst situation. CAR and TOR did well too.

I'm not sure I've seen a team ever get through a season as healthy as the 2022-2023 NYR. I wonder if these stats go back far and the provider can confirm if any team has ever been this healthy.

53 man-games lost and not to "key" players.

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As a lifelong Bruins fan , I hope your right PJ .

I'm worried that Bergeron may have a concussion .

The Bruins were certainly head and shoulders above the rest of the league during the regular season , including Tampa , but playoff hockey is a whole different game .

Tampa looked deadly in game 1 vs. Toronto and they are built for and know how to win in the playoffs .

Bruins need to get Patrice back and get over the virus that has been making its way through the team .

Bergie had an injury too - I figured they used the stomach bug excuse to get the attention off it if/when he comes back.

Exactly . They don't want anyone targeting his head when he comes back but its common knowledge that he has a history of serious concussions when he was younger . Unfortunately , there is always someone out there that will be more then happy to go after his head in the playoffs to take him out .

The Bruins are awfully deep and have had a historic season but they still don't want to lose their #1 center with Tampa then either probably the Rangers or Canes on the horizon .

The Eastern Conference is loaded this year . Loving every minute of it .

if you believe 1 playoff game = 5 regular season games in terms of suspension this is almost a 1/5 of the season.

Definitely suspension worthy IMO, but I thought a game.

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still out tonight.

No Pavelski for the Stars.

Hedman may play tomorrow, Cernak out.

Bruins are getting away with so much holding and interference.

and then they flop around trying to draw penalties.

The quality of hockey differential between FL/BOS and CAR/NYI is massive.

to see a good example of "layers" - even better than the 90's Devils, it's this Bruins team.

so disciplined - everyone knows where to be

the forecheck is crazy, the neutral zone play is where the layers shine and defensively they have about 4 players who could win the selke and one who probably will.

call against the Bruins with that hooking call on Forbort.

whine more than the Penguins fans. 6 pp to 0 and yet they are still chanting refs suck? haha ok

assholes. canes win this series and will get destroyed by the rags

By these jerkoff refs. Fuck them. Cunts

a high stick missed by the refs, but Mayfield can't whine about it during the play.

In comment 16092237 pjcas18 said:

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a high stick missed by the refs, but Mayfield can't whine about it during the play.

Not wrong but how the hell is that missed when everything is being called against the Isles?

In comment 16092239 BlueHurricane said:

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In comment 16092237 pjcas18 said: Quote: a high stick missed by the refs, but Mayfield can't whine about it during the play. Not wrong but how the hell is that missed when everything is being called against the Isles?

Tonights calls on the isles were legit so as a fan Im not pissed but even before the highstick aho gets grabbed by the head and tackled also. That was a penalty also

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In comment 16092237 pjcas18 said: Quote: a high stick missed by the refs, but Mayfield can't whine about it during the play. Not wrong but how the hell is that missed when everything is being called against the Isles?

no idea the refs suck.

love to see the Panthers pouring it on in Boston. Still no Bergeron for Boston and Bennett back in the lineup for FLA makes a big difference.

is as predictable as the sun rising in the east

bad job by refs keeping things somewhat neutral. after a soft one on pulock to swing game 1 to then call nothing on the canes, including when a clear high stick leads to a game winner in ot, that's just not playoff hockey. they did everything except make sorokin change gloves for rosin. there had better be some home cooking in game 3.

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Joe Pantorno @JoePantorno 4 times in #NHL playoff history one team has had 5+ power play opportunities while the other had 0: 2017 1st round, Game 3: CGY (5), ANA (0) 2017 2nd round, Game 2: STL (5), NSH (0) 2020 1st round, Game 5: CBJ (6), TB (0) 2022 1st round, Game 2: CAR (6), NYI (0)

not that it should matter but the only other 6-0 PP game was when tampa was up 3-1 in the series, and they still scored 5 goals and won that game 5 in ot to close out cbj, so this 6-0 seems a little more punchy. if nothing else the isles should at least get to own this record.

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is as predictable as the sun rising in the east

I don't think it's possible for anyone to dislike the Bruins more than me, but I really hoped one of the Bruins dropped Lomberg on Florida. He looked like the epitome of the "talk tough with the refs holding him back" player.

I was annoyed by him just imagining his chirps, lol.

I don't know what you're all getting at but Leah hextall has got something going on. She's got a weird sexiness to her. I dig it.

Danault has turned into quite a hockey player. I liked him in MTL and he sort of "broke out" during their COVID SCF appearance, but he is at another level right now.

He is squarely in selke land right now with his D, he always was, but his offense looks good too.

That said, EDM is showing they're not just McDavid and if you focus too much attention on McDavid they can beat you in other ways. Game 1 LAK was able to control McDavid and generate enough offense to win, last night they were not.

EDM and LAK even at 1 headed to LA.

CAR with an OT win to go up 2-0 on NYI headed to NY
FLA ties up BOS at 1 a piece heading to FL
DAL (my dark horse) tied up MIN at 1 heading to MN

Tonight:

NYR vs NJD, NYR lead 1 - 0
TOR vs TBL, TBL lead 1 - 0
COL vs SEA, SEA lead 1 - 0
LVG vs WIN, WIN lead 1 - 0

Does the fact that Mayfield literally lifts his stick up have any bearing on the no call? I know you can't be reckless with your stick, but the guy had his back to Mayfield and Mayfield lifted his stick. Just wondering if it is 100% total strict liability.

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Does the fact that Mayfield literally lifts his stick up have any bearing on the no call? I know you can't be reckless with your stick, but the guy had his back to Mayfield and Mayfield lifted his stick. Just wondering if it is 100% total strict liability.

If Mayfield lifted the CAR players stick into his own face then no, it's not a penalty on the CAR player.

similarly if you get hit with a stick on the follow through of a shot, it's not a penalty on the player who hits the person with his stick.

otherwise, intent is irrelevant, you need to control your stick, is the rule.

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In comment 16092388 Essex said: Quote: Does the fact that Mayfield literally lifts his stick up have any bearing on the no call? I know you can't be reckless with your stick, but the guy had his back to Mayfield and Mayfield lifted his stick. Just wondering if it is 100% total strict liability. If Mayfield lifted the CAR players stick into his own face then no, it's not a penalty on the CAR player. similarly if you get hit with a stick on the follow through of a shot, it's not a penalty on the player who hits the person with his stick. otherwise, intent is irrelevant, you need to control your stick, is the rule.

Thanks--so the referee has a legitimate basis for the no call last night? I hate the Islanders, so I was happy they lost, but their fans are really vocal that they were robbed.

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In comment 16092406 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 16092388 Essex said: Quote: Does the fact that Mayfield literally lifts his stick up have any bearing on the no call? I know you can't be reckless with your stick, but the guy had his back to Mayfield and Mayfield lifted his stick. Just wondering if it is 100% total strict liability. If Mayfield lifted the CAR players stick into his own face then no, it's not a penalty on the CAR player. similarly if you get hit with a stick on the follow through of a shot, it's not a penalty on the player who hits the person with his stick. otherwise, intent is irrelevant, you need to control your stick, is the rule. Thanks--so the referee has a legitimate basis for the no call last night? I hate the Islanders, so I was happy they lost, but their fans are really vocal that they were robbed.

I haven't watched it in slo-mo to see how the stick hit Mayfield to confirm or deny that.

the bigger problem was Mayfield ignoring the play to chirp the refs leaving his man uncovered to score the GW.

So, even if it should have been called, it didn't have to become a goal.

in game 1 they called a phantom penalty on pulock that led to a goal, the canes deserved to win that game but it was the decisive goal, and they also missed a few blatant ones on the canes. a hook on nelson during a wrap around right as he was shooting, an obvious cross check on burns. it happens though, overall penalties were 4-4, like is said canes outplayed them, but still a bad whistle game.

add that context BEFORE the canes got 6 pp's to the isles 0, including a PP in the final 5 minutes of the 3rd. which was a penalty but also every bit of a "swallow your whistles" moment as OT. and in a game where the islanders thoroughly outplayed carolina at 5v5.

re: the mayfield play specifically, this typically gets called every time if a player is this loose with their stick. whether or not mayfield helps move the stick, obviously when a player has 1 hand on a stick skating the opposite direction it is going to arc up as this one did hitting mayfield in the face. this was not a situation where both players were engaged facing each other and the player got his stick lifted into the other players face. in a game where the canes got 2 high sticks, both incidental that turned into double minors, including 1 called by a linesman after the ref missed the initial call, this is a must call.

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in game 1 they called a phantom penalty on pulock that led to a goal, the canes deserved to win that game but it was the decisive goal, and they also missed a few blatant ones on the canes. a hook on nelson during a wrap around right as he was shooting, an obvious cross check on burns. it happens though, overall penalties were 4-4, like is said canes outplayed them, but still a bad whistle game. add that context BEFORE the canes got 6 pp's to the isles 0, including a PP in the final 5 minutes of the 3rd. which was a penalty but also every bit of a "swallow your whistles" moment as OT. and in a game where the islanders thoroughly outplayed carolina at 5v5. re: the mayfield play specifically, this typically gets called every time if a player is this loose with their stick. whether or not mayfield helps move the stick, obviously when a player has 1 hand on a stick skating the opposite direction it is going to arc up as this one did hitting mayfield in the face. this was not a situation where both players were engaged facing each other and the player got his stick lifted into the other players face. in a game where the canes got 2 high sticks, both incidental that turned into double minors, including 1 called by a linesman after the ref missed the initial call, this is a must call.

That is a reasonable point, but it is also OT where they bend over backwards not to make a call. Just a few seconds before that, a guy on Carolina was literally tripped and they did not call it and that would be called 95% of the time in regulation.

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In comment 16092453 Eric on Li said: Quote: in game 1 they called a phantom penalty on pulock that led to a goal, the canes deserved to win that game but it was the decisive goal, and they also missed a few blatant ones on the canes. a hook on nelson during a wrap around right as he was shooting, an obvious cross check on burns. it happens though, overall penalties were 4-4, like is said canes outplayed them, but still a bad whistle game. add that context BEFORE the canes got 6 pp's to the isles 0, including a PP in the final 5 minutes of the 3rd. which was a penalty but also every bit of a "swallow your whistles" moment as OT. and in a game where the islanders thoroughly outplayed carolina at 5v5. re: the mayfield play specifically, this typically gets called every time if a player is this loose with their stick. whether or not mayfield helps move the stick, obviously when a player has 1 hand on a stick skating the opposite direction it is going to arc up as this one did hitting mayfield in the face. this was not a situation where both players were engaged facing each other and the player got his stick lifted into the other players face. in a game where the canes got 2 high sticks, both incidental that turned into double minors, including 1 called by a linesman after the ref missed the initial call, this is a must call. That is a reasonable point, but it is also OT where they bend over backwards not to make a call. Just a few seconds before that, a guy on Carolina was literally tripped and they did not call it and that would be called 95% of the time in regulation.

there were a bunch of those both ways but even in the regular season when things are called tighter trips, interference, holding are more 50/50 calls.

high sticking is usually a more black/white call. either it happened or it didn't. the canes got 2 high sticking majors and a tripping call with 5 minutes left in the 3rd.

Of the Colosseum is gone. Could be the TV feed but the sound of Nassau is gone.

And the officials have not called about 4 blatant calls on Carolina but are calling everything on the Isles.

Can you decline penalties?

i laugh at those who say the isles are boring. this team has zero offense. lucky ass goals and a bullshit 1. aand they are pussies too. see you sunday

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Of the Colosseum is gone. Could be the TV feed but the sound of Nassau is gone. And the officials have not called about 4 blatant calls on Carolina but are calling everything on the Isles.

That last 12 minutes was Coliseum loud

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In comment 16093572 BlueHurricane said: Quote: Of the Colosseum is gone. Could be the TV feed but the sound of Nassau is gone. And the officials have not called about 4 blatant calls on Carolina but are calling everything on the Isles. That last 12 minutes was Coliseum loud

Not 12. 4 for sure.

Now that they broke through maybe Sunday will be different. Need it whistle to whistle

cant see that it hit his stick, then they need to find a new line of work. The fucking puck stopped mid air and went straight down, totally changed direction too.

Fucking clowns. As usual the referee on tv takes the refs/replays back.

Get rid of replay. Now.

today.

LVG @ WIN, series tied 1-1
TOR @ TBL, series tied 1-1
NJD @ NYR, NYR lead series 2-0
COL @ SEA, series tied 1-1

In other playoff news, Teuvo Teravainen broke his hand and will miss the rest of the series (at least - should CAR move on). Big loss, secondary scoring is a difference maker in the playoffs and already down Svechnikov, CAR was relying on Teravainen.

They are hitting everything, eating shots, and competing hard for pucks. I've never seen McDavid so physical, he and Hyman were burying Kings. They are making the sacrifice finally.

Its refreshing. I found it infuriating watching them figure skate in the playoffs the last few years, flying the zone, cheating for offense, waiting for teammates to do the grunt work.

Lol at Nurse though. That OT play is him in a nutshell. Trying to do way too much.

atmosphere at MSG I don't think there is anything in the NHL remotely like a playoff game in Winnipeg

OT in WIN. WIN tied it with 20 seconds left.

they lost Josh Morrisey during the game and Neil Pionk has been forced to play almost 40 minutes out of the 80 played so far.

win in 2OT, after WIN killed off a penalty a bad turnover winds up in the back of their net.

out for the series, huge blow for WIN.

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out for the series, huge blow for WIN.

Yeah losing a 76 point Norris candidate is a death blow. Knee on knee.

good for Brayden Point. Hope he's ok.

looked like he collapsed after trying to skate off after a hard hit.

returned, didn't quite look like himself, but good to see him back out there.

have Knies out there for a o-zone face off with under 4 min left in a one-goal game tied up playoff series

love they're showing some faith in the kid.

he lost the draw cleanly, but I still like the confidence.

tie it up with the extra attacker.

what a great game.

I doubt we see Point again though.

in Tampa

win in OT, after TBL dominated the first 19 min of it - off what? a face-off, you guessed it.

you lose a face off in your zone, bad things can happen

in NY. do or die for the Devils, but I hope it takes 3 or 4 OTs however it ends up.

all three games so far today have gone to OT.

and in the 4th game the Avs and Kraken are tied at 1 (it's early though)

Devils make the goalie change and of course it works like a fucking charm. Oh well we knew it wasn't going to be a sweep.

Sorry. Had to cut off the "lecture team" before they got here.

O for SEA. Take the series lead 2-1.

SEA is a fun team to watch for year 2 - them and Vegas seemed to have cracked the expansion code far easier than their predecessors. Has the pendulum swung too far toward helping these teams? I'm not saying the league should expand any more, 32 teams might even be too many, but I expect franchise teams should struggle initially - which should be ok for the league since in the early years it's a novelty - people will go anyway regardless of record.

Or did we just get some shrewd GMs?

yesterday were excellent. I had to flip between NYR vs NJD and TOR vs TBL because they were close in timing, but from what I saw NYR vs NJD was a great playoff game.

Matinee (1pm) in NY, with a pivotal game 4, NYI vs CAR. CAR leading the series 2 - 1.

mid-afternoon (3:30pm) in FLA, with another pivotal game 4, FLA vs BOS. BOS leading the series 2 - 1.

Dinner theater in MIN (6:30pm) and same theme, pivotal game 4, MIN vs DAL. MIN leading the series 2 - 1.

Night cap in LA (9pm) and to finish the theme, pivotal game 4, LAK vs EDM. LAK leading the series 2 - 1.

I call game 4 pivotal because either a team is going up 3 to 1 and a comeback becomes a longshot or it's tied 2 - 2 and anyone's series.

I don't care that they're good right away. It gives another opportunity to see a different sport in a different city. 10 years ago I never would've guessed I had the chance to see hockey in Vegas or Seattle.

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I don't care that they're good right away. It gives another opportunity to see a different sport in a different city. 10 years ago I never would've guessed I had the chance to see hockey in Vegas or Seattle.

I think the locals probably feel the same way - I went to a game in Vegas and I thought MTL put on a good, entertaining show, but they have nothing on Vegas. It's a fun crowd and I don't expect that to change too much if the team is bad.

I'm going to start going to some more away hockey games next year. I went to Jersey, Philly and Washington this year. Any recommendations on who to check out ... next?

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I'm going to start going to some more away hockey games next year. I went to Jersey, Philly and Washington this year. Any recommendations on who to check out ... next?

the mecca. MTL, the Bell Center doesn't have the "charm" of the old forum, but it's a great place to see a game. and MTL is fun.

Vegas 100% should be on your list.

Nashville is an awesome time.

Boston is great for a game. good crowd, lots to do around the arena.

I have never been to a game in Raleigh, but I did go to Raleigh for work recently and I feel like I could live down there. What a nice city. I stayed in Cary, NC and I was blown away how easy it was to commute to Raleigh (the airport) and even the city, and the community was beautiful.

So, CAR is on my list to go to.

I'd also like to see games in Denver, Minnesota, and Seattle - but I haven't yet.

I have never had a bad time at a hockey game, but lower on my list of "must see" arenas would be Toronto, Pittsburgh, Chicago, San Jose, Tampa - of the arenas I have been to - good times, but nothing special.

Tampa is a fun experience but wouldn't put it as a must see. Arena's nice, crowd is very good.

I like the arena better than Newark and the Panthers. The Panthers are great to see because you get great seats for nothing.

I went to Nashville Denver and Seattle but for Giants games. Nashville is kind of overrated. The amount of noise there and shitty music is just way too much and I'm only getting older lol but will definitely go to Rangers/Predators there when I can.

Oh yeah and I've been to Carolina for Giants/Panthers.

I was going to go to Pittsburgh or Buffalo for hockey as well this year but couldn't make it.

but I have been to a few in PIT. It's fun, just not special. If you could work it out to go to a hockey game on a Saturday night then football game on Sunday, it would be cool.

yesterday that Panarin is 1 for 11 on breakaways this year after missing the one yesterday.

I always felt like Panarin's best trait is passing, but he has a sick wrist shot, and I feel like he's just not good with it in motion vs the set up. I think it's fixable if someone wants to work with him on it. I wonder what he's like in his career on breakaways - to know if this year is an anomaly.

playing for what is likely their playoff lives and head to the 3rd down 3.

Uphill climb, not watching the game, but hope they at least make it interesting.

I am rooting for the Panthers but am still relatively unbiased - the Bruins get away with so much holding and hooking.

The officiating in most games has been really inconsistent imo.

finally broke the Bruins PK streak. They had been unreal.

3 - 2 Bruins, with 13 left in the 3rd

leaky, gives the goal right back.

He looks pretty shaky.

no Bergeron, No Krejci, no problem.

Taylor Hall playing like a Hart winner.

Barkov nowhere to be found. In fact if I didn't know he was on Florida I wouldn't even know he was playing in this game.

Tkachuk and Bennett the only Panthers noticeable at all. Other than Bobrovsky who is noticeable for the wrong reasons.

a great game in MIN, DAL wins 3 - 2 to even up the series.

Oettinger was amazing.

They need to get rid of that "Zibanejad scores" sound bite during the commercials. I was at work and heard that and thought it was a real goal last night.

Edmonton ties it at 4-4


LATE NIGHT WILDNESS

(and I say him more than Draisaitl, McDavid or Hyman/Kane/Bouchard because EDM is expected to score but their goalie is their Achilles heel) saves the Oilers season (for now), Skinner was brutal.

Great game though.

LAK are a good team. I don't get to see them much.

Tonights games:
a bunch of pivotal Game 4's:

NJD @ NYR 7pm (NYR lead 2-1)
TOR @ TBL 7:30pm (TOR lead 2-1)
LVG @ WIN 9:30pm (LVG lead 2-1)
COL @ sEA 10:00pm (COL lead 2-1)

a thing of the past or just some weird anomaly?

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called the Bruins top heavy *cough cough Brett* but seeing what they are doing without Bergeron and Krejci (1C and 2C) is kind of scary to think about if they get healthy.

On that front, they have two days off before game 5 (Celtics conflict?) and word is Bergeron is likely to return. Krejci still out.

I thought FL outplayed them for large parts of the game yesterday but Ullmark was excellent and Bobrovsky sucked.

Their depth is better than I thought, though.

goalie in the playoffs are so critical, not like they aren't in the regular season, but you can still win a lot of regular season games with mediocre goalies.

FLA better hope Spencer Knight gets his personal demons straightened out or they're forked.

because no sense stirring up a hornets nest, but I do think it's kind of comical that all of a sudden Rangers fans feel like players have complete control of their bodies and how they fall, where they land, and 100% know intent of the player, but Chris Kreider crashing into goalies is just incidental.

whose depth is impressive is CAR.

No Svechnikov, Teräväinen, and Pacioretty (though losing patches helped with LTIR and was predictable) and they're still getting secondary scoring.

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because no sense stirring up a hornets nest, but I do think it's kind of comical that all of a sudden Rangers fans feel like players have complete control of their bodies and how they fall, where they land, and 100% know intent of the player, but Chris Kreider crashing into goalies is just incidental.

I watched that video a couple of times and am not nearly as convinced as other Ranger fans about his intentions.

I'll add, I've seen videos of myself (at slower speeds and less skill of course) look to be doing something intentionally dirty when I know my intentions were clean (and vice versa).

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In comment 16095130 pjcas18 said: Quote: because no sense stirring up a hornets nest, but I do think it's kind of comical that all of a sudden Rangers fans feel like players have complete control of their bodies and how they fall, where they land, and 100% know intent of the player, but Chris Kreider crashing into goalies is just incidental. I watched that video a couple of times and am not nearly as convinced as other Ranger fans about his intentions. I'll add, I've seen videos of myself (at slower speeds and less skill of course) look to be doing something intentionally dirty when I know my intentions were clean (and vice versa).

I have no idea about the fall, but I do think the roughing call on Shesterkin was a joke.

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In comment 16095130 pjcas18 said: Quote: because no sense stirring up a hornets nest, but I do think it's kind of comical that all of a sudden Rangers fans feel like players have complete control of their bodies and how they fall, where they land, and 100% know intent of the player, but Chris Kreider crashing into goalies is just incidental. I watched that video a couple of times and am not nearly as convinced as other Ranger fans about his intentions. I'll add, I've seen videos of myself (at slower speeds and less skill of course) look to be doing something intentionally dirty when I know my intentions were clean (and vice versa).

lol, yeah when I watch videos of our team I'm always amazed at how slow we look. I blame the technology. Before Live Barn it was private, lol, now unfortunately our games get broadcast to the "fans" and are archived.

I think players can do some things to adjust/influence how they fall or land (like I think even Kreider probably could have at his rate of speed on the Price play), but I will never pretend to know intent and I'm also not going to conveniently pretend to know based on the teams impacted by the play.

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In comment 16095156 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: In comment 16095130 pjcas18 said: Quote: because no sense stirring up a hornets nest, but I do think it's kind of comical that all of a sudden Rangers fans feel like players have complete control of their bodies and how they fall, where they land, and 100% know intent of the player, but Chris Kreider crashing into goalies is just incidental. I watched that video a couple of times and am not nearly as convinced as other Ranger fans about his intentions. I'll add, I've seen videos of myself (at slower speeds and less skill of course) look to be doing something intentionally dirty when I know my intentions were clean (and vice versa). I have no idea about the fall, but I do think the roughing call on Shesterkin was a joke.

the officiating all playoffs has been terrible.

I think I'm bending my knees (wrong), I think I work hard every shift (wrong), I think I'm decently fast (wrong).

in for Lightning tonight. Seeing him collapse on his way to the bench I thought this was going to be a serious incident.

Glad it wasn't.

Hockey players are the toughest athletes.

looks like he got faster.

Toronto cuts it to 4-3

I remember in 1999 it was impossible to come back from down 3 goals in the 3rd period and now it seems like it happens every night

in Tampa

come all the way back.

Lightning are done.

Good. Fuck those clowns.

The road teams continue their winning streak. Devs-Rangers knotted at 2. Toronto with a wild win. The Kracken up 2-0 trying to even that series. It's been all of one week and the playoffs have already been a crazy ride.

in OT to tie up the series with COL.

WIN loses Scheifele (in addition to Morrissey and already down Ehlers) and comes up short vs LVG. Scheifele is not ruled out for the series. LVG up 3 - 1.

Just 3 games today with BOS getting the extra day due to Celtics vs Hawks.

Today, 1st possible handshake game:

CAR up 3 - 1 can close it at home vs NYI @7pm
MIN @ DAL in game 5 of a tied series @8pm
LAK @ EDM in game 5 of a tied series @9:30pm

pj, did you think this was a penalty?

I don't really understand running the goalie rules. It wasn't intentional, but I thought for sure it should have been called.

Didn't impact the game because NYR was never scoring on the power play.
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pj, did you think this was a penalty? I don't really understand running the goalie rules. It wasn't intentional, but I thought for sure it should have been called. Didn't impact the game because NYR was never scoring on the power play. Twitter - ( New Window )

Do you think the Kreider play on Price was a penalty?

Your question prompted me to rewatch that play.

Yeah, I think so. Especially real-time. Replay makes me think he was tripped a little but I probably still would have called it.

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Your question prompted me to rewatch that play. Yeah, I think so. Especially real-time. Replay makes me think he was tripped a little but I probably still would have called it.

I'm not sure. I view the two plays as similar. I think Kreider had more time to adjust his landing spot. Hischier was bang bang in the crease.

I don't think either play was intentional (at least not to injure) though I always thought having played the game so long, and been at high speeds (relatively speaking) and I felt like to an extent I could control where my body went while falling, and Kreider picked a soft landing spot. IOW, he could have done more to avoid Price. IMO.

Hischier only choice was to not go to the net and he was receiving a pass, so he basically did the same thing as Kreider, but with less room to adjust so once he got in the paint there was no other outcome.

I don't know if either is a penalty, defenders had their sticks in the vicinity of the players so fans of the players will probably point to that as the cause for the outcome, but IMO if one is a penalty, they both are.

I don't think either are intentional, but I don't weigh that into consideration. Accidental falls/light trips still fall on the skater, IMO.

there wasn't more reaction by the Rangers. It seems like in 2023 after every goalie save there is 30 seconds of face washes, slashes and light scrums, but on that play there was nothing. Go figure, lol.

So I figure it was either because Hischier stayed down at fist and it defused the situation a little or they knew he was driving to the net and it's a hockey play.

Not sure. That is a play I'd love to get the players honest thoughts on, I wonder if the beat writers will ask anyone.

dirty play by Makar.

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Colorado’s Cale Makar has been suspended for one playoff game for Interference against Seattle’s Jared McCann.

But I wouldn't have had much of a beef if they called it goalie interference. There was a defensive stick in the vicinity but I don't think it had much if anything at all to do with him going down. Nico and the Devils in general seem to have a real hard time staying on their skates. It's a recurring issue, not just this series. I'm a little surprised the Rangers didn't react at all. Maybe having just given up a goal and only about 10 minutes left the last thing they wanted was to put the Devs on the PP. Lost in the mix it really was a spectacular save by Shesterkin. Probably the best of the series by any goalie. I know Ranger fans may see it that way and that's fair but I don't think any Devils outside of maybe Timo are purposely driving at Shesterkin. It's not their style at all.

that was ugly.

Blast from the point hits Sebastian Aho square in the face and Brock Nelson swats it in to the net out of mid-air directly from Aho's face.

NYI up 2 - 0

on. If Sorokin plays like that at home for game 6, they can force game 7, then who knows what happens.

God damn it. Was gonna put some clams on the Islanders tonight but my woman was bitching at me and I forgot. I had a funny feeling.

starting to separate, Oettinger rounding into playoff form. DAL up 3 - 2

I like them in the West.

EDM also winning a crucial game 4, to go up 3 - 2.

I think Toronto makes it far and Edmonton makes it on the West's side for the SCF

if both win, right?

If so, it's an awesome series for a Habs fan like me because one of them is automatically eliminated.

If BOS gets Bergeron back (and Krejci at some point) I don't see TOR winning that series. TOR hasn't won a playoff series in almost two decades, I don't see them winning more than one this year (if they beat TBL)

I don't know. I'm unsure with hockey picks in the NHL playoffs because the teams I say look good and are dominant in one round usually get swept in the next.

Didn't Toronto blow it a couple of times against Boston in recent playoff history?

I think Florida wins tonight.

"They'll win tonight"

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I don't know. I'm unsure with hockey picks in the NHL playoffs because the teams I say look good and are dominant in one round usually get swept in the next. Didn't Toronto blow it a couple of times against Boston in recent playoff history?

they had an epic meltdown (the others IMO were just average series losses) and not that recent (2013), but the Leafs were up in game 7 vs the Bruins by 3 goals halfway through the 3rd period. Two goals by BOS with the net empty in the last 90 seconds tied it. Bruins won in OT.

and the Leafs lost the game and obviously the series.

and the winner of CAR-NYI plays the winner of NJ-NYR.

why the hell is game 6 not till Saturday??? is there some sort of Taylor Swift concert or something like that in LA Thursday/Friday? I've never heard of 3 days off between games in an NHL 1st rd series let alone this late in the series.

That series, that game and 2013 the year itself doesn't feel like 10 years ago.

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and the winner of CAR-NYI plays the winner of NJ-NYR.

I think the Islanders make a comeback and win that series lol

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That series, that game and 2013 the year itself doesn't feel like 10 years ago.

I remember it like it was yesterday. I had a beer league game (in metro Boston) and my teammates are all Bruins fans for the most part so a couple people had their phones on the bench and were getting updates and the ref was telling us game stuff on the ice during face offs, etc. almost no one was paying attention to our game (the people playing in it or the refs, lol). it was annoying.

There doesn't seem to be an arena conflict at the Prudential Center tonight, and I can't think of any other real reason aside from some weirdo at ESPN thinking that playing tomorrow will result in a 0.1% ratings increase.

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There doesn't seem to be an arena conflict at the Prudential Center tonight, and I can't think of any other real reason aside from some weirdo at ESPN thinking that playing tomorrow will result in a 0.1% ratings increase.

Almost every NHL 1st Rd series every year has one point in the series where they have the extra day off. It's probably a balancing the schedule kind of thing. For this series it's between games 4 & 5.

Bruins.

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I think Florida wins tonight. "They'll win tonight"

YEAH! That was a nice goal

What a finish.

I thought starting Bobrovsky was a mistake (I was wrong).

Btw, I think Ekblad is really unimpressive.

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is hurt. He missed game 4. Normally I think he's easy a legit top pair D, not a Norris candidate usually, but in that tier below IMO.

Panthers were outplayed in every facet, except 1, the one that counts, the scoreboard.

Chaos!

cost his team a game and possibly the series.

that play by Makar was almost Dale Hunter bad.

3 games tonight, 2 possible handshake lines

TBL @TOR 7pm TOR leads 3-1
NYR @NJD 7:30pm tied at 2
WIN @LVG 10pm LVG leads 3-1

Tampa Bay wins
NJ wins
Vegas wins

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Chaos!

Normal times in the NHL playoffs

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cost his team a game and possibly the series. that play by Makar was almost Dale Hunter bad. 3 games tonight, 2 possible handshake lines TBL @TOR 7pm TOR leads 3-1 NYR @NJD 7:30pm tied at 2 WIN @LVG 10pm LVG leads 3-1

It's been such a wild run with The Devils and Knicks and such great action night in night out and coaching my son's baseball My time has been consumed I haven't looked it up. What was Makar's excuse? I agree that was Dale Hunter level stupid. Did he not realize the puck had been shot?

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[Ruff] per Brind'Amour, there is a possibility that Frederik Andersen could play in tomorrow's Game 6.

Rantaa hasn't been responsible for either loss and played really well in some of the Ws

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In comment 16097905 pjcas18 said: Quote: cost his team a game and possibly the series. that play by Makar was almost Dale Hunter bad. 3 games tonight, 2 possible handshake lines TBL @TOR 7pm TOR leads 3-1 NYR @NJD 7:30pm tied at 2 WIN @LVG 10pm LVG leads 3-1 It's been such a wild run with The Devils and Knicks and such great action night in night out and coaching my son's baseball My time has been consumed I haven't looked it up. What was Makar's excuse? I agree that was Dale Hunter level stupid. Did he not realize the puck had been shot?

Yeah, he said he was not aware the puck was not still in play.

BS, IMO.

some details about the Kraken depth:

In the regular season their leading scorer may have only had 70 points, but they had 18 skaters with over 20 points.

NJD had 16, CAR had 15, EDM had 15, BOS had 14, DAL 13, NYR 13, LVG 12, COL 12, I didn't check anymore

and in the playoffs so far they have had 13 different goal scorers in 5 games (per Nathan Grav on twitter)

that is some secondary scoring for you. It's so much harder to stop a team when every line can score.

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Yeah, he said he was not aware the puck was not still in play. BS, IMO.

Ha ha yeah that is comical. There is no way on earth he couldn't see the puck had been released long before. Even if he hadn't seen the puck shot, since when is it normal practice to ride a guy from 20 feet up the slot all the way to the back boards? Just a mind numbingly stupid play that cost him playing in the biggest game of the season to date.

Two quick goals in Toronto/TB game. Tied at 1-1.

goal for Samsonov to give up.

what Maroon did there. It's not even a penalty IMO. looked like a harmless finishing his check.

pulls the goalie down 2 with over 4 min left.

win (sound familiar?) leads to a Leafs goal.

3 - 2 game with 3:30 left

as the Leafs get, TB with an ENG and we're headed to Tampa for game 6

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Tampa Bay wins NJ wins Vegas wins

I had a feeling Tampa Bay would come out on top and I knew the b**** boys would no show in Jersey.

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that parlay may have paid well. Ehlers in warmups for WIN

in Vegas, congrats gtt (he's the one from Vegas, right?).

and route 9 should have bet that money line parlay.

First team to advance.

Tonight 3 potential handshake games:

CAR @NYI 7:00 CAR leads 3-2
BOS @FLA 7:30 BOS leads 3-2
DAL @MIN 9:30 DAL leads 3-2

I am hoping for 3 game 7's.

route 9 will be issuing his picks later today, stay tuned.....

Just long enough to blast his Jets to kingdom come and leave. Crazy that there's still a potential for as many as 7 game 7's.

Let's see

Carolina
Florida
Dallas

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Let's see Carolina Florida Dallas

two handshakes and one game 7? I hope you're right about game 7 for BOS vs FLA, and not saying I'd bet it this way, but I always root for game 7's.

lines for game 6.

Swap Kane and Tarasenko and move Panarin to the 3rd line and Lafreniere up

So I think it will be:
Kreider Mika Tarasenko
Lafreniere Trocheck Kane
Panarin Chytil Kakko

I don't think the 4th line or the D changed at all

Basically Gallant said Ruff outsmarted him, lol - in different words.

In tonights games news:

CAR still hasn't named a goalie
Pavelski possibly back for DAL

how I left the 4th game off the schedule tonight

Kraken can close out the Avs at 10pm

The only one I put cat food on tonight is the Islanders/hurricanes game

Are doing everything the Barzal/Lee/Horvat line was supposed to be doing

They are playing out if their heads.

It’s hard to watch. Pathetic really. Wish they could decline penalties

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Are doing everything the Barzal/Lee/Horvat line was supposed to be doing They are playing out if their heads.

isles are all over them. little scary its only 1-0 though

Islanders had all the momentum and then played not to lose.

I think they iced it 15 times in the 3rd period.

tied in FLA too, in the 3rd.

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and of course they get absolutely dominated in the 3rd. lucky they are getting an OT after that pathetic period

in NY. Damn.

Lol Islanders lose. Almost gonna be 54 years for them huh? They're a grumpy teenager's life away from catching up to that Rangers drought

Panthers games is insane.

5-5 8 min left.

5 3rd period goals so far.

More cat food for me!

Unforgivable.

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Panthers games is insane. 5-5 8 min left. 5 3rd period goals so far.

Yeah a SHG answered by a PP goal

Was that Stepan? Nice to see

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Was that Stepan? Nice to see

Stastny

take the lead 6-5 after the refs let a trip go

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Lol Islanders lose. Almost gonna be 54 years for them huh? They're a grumpy teenager's life away from catching up to that Rangers drought

Not like the Rangers have won anything recently.

Islanders. Almost as irrelevant as the Mets. Almost.

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Thay kept the puck in

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Oh, yeah, more of a turnover by Pelech, but it was Stepan on the blue line.

Is it me or do teams now pull goalies way earlier than they used to?

is empty in Florida. 1:35 left.

with his unfunny schtick. and yet he keeps going with it.

Lol that was a crazy empty net goal by Florida

sequence, ends with a Panthers ENG.

We will get a game 7 in the series I least expected it

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Is it me or do teams now pull goalies way earlier than they used to?

Analytics.

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with his unfunny schtick. and yet he keeps going with it.

Rats everywhere!

This is awesome.

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Since when?

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I don't know, a few years ago, but one of the stat-heads came out with a report that in a 2 goal game you should pull your goalie with like 7 min left. and a one goal lead in the 3-4 minute range.

and teams follow that (or something like it) - Rand Pecknold did it in the Frozen Four last year vs Michigan and it didn't work out and he took a lot of heat for it, but this year he wins a national title.

Oh ok thanks for the info

And who is that dork above talking about?

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Oh ok thanks for the info And who is that dork above talking about?

Here is a link to an article by Alison Lukan - it references and links to the study I was talking about - good article.
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Let's see Carolina Florida Dallas

Another good night for me. You've been put on notice pjcas18! And you too, whiny emo rapper!

it's my army of social media followers.

they are waiting for the route 9 from BBI picks every day.

Oettinger elevating. I like DAL if he can keep it up.

Being leaked now that McDavid is injured. Not shocked.

Three teams now on to the 2nd round (LVG, CAR, and DAL).

Tonight 3 games, 3 possible handshake lines, I'm rooting for 3 game 7's.

TOR @TBL @7pm, TOR leads 3-2, going for their first series win in almost two decades

NJD @NYR @8pm, NJD leads 3-2, NYR shuffle the lines to adjust to the suffocating down low NJD defense

EDM @LAK @10pm, EDM leads 3-2

Lightning, Rangers, Kings

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Lightning, Rangers, Kings

Love it, betting on the game 7's.

broken neck just sounds scary to me.

Elliotte Friedman
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Colorado’s Andrew Cogliano suffered a fractured neck in the hit from behind last night in Game 6 versus Seattle. He’s out indefinitely

worthy hit by Eberle?
link - ( New Window )

in Tampa.

TBL should be on a PP, but refs missed a high stick right in front of the ref. No idea how he missed it.

in OT, the drought is over (for a playoff series)

5-bowls

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5-bowls

Thanks pj….appreciate the love…...it’s been a long time….glad to get this monkey off the backs. Who knows maybe we won’t even have to play Boston down the road.

the house always wins eventually.

one game 7, two handshakes.

Tonight we have two game 7's.

BOS vs FLA @6:30pm
SEA vs COL @9:30pm

Either home team losing would be a huge upset IMO. I expect BOS wins, I think COL does too, but I think that one has the better chance for an upset

Conference semis shaping up
TOR vs BOS/FLA (decided tonight)
CAR vs NJD/NYR (decided Monday)
LVG vs EDM
DAL vs COL/SEA (decided tonight)

in for BOS.

I think they had to replace Ullmark because I believe he's injured, but Swayman hasn't started in 17 days (I think I heard that).

Bobrovsky has been awful too but there Panthers have no other options.

5-hole softie (on the PP).

1-0 FLA

If Ullmark is healthy, benching him is dumb.

FL is the better team so far.

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If Ullmark is healthy, benching him is dumb. FL is the better team so far.

He has an .896 SV% and 3.33 GAA this series and I don't think he's healthy. If he is healthy, he's been bad.

What do you do?

Then again I thought starting Bobrovský was the wrong decision, lol.

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Then again I thought starting Bobrovský was the wrong decision, lol.

I wouldn't have started Bobrovsky if they had any other options. I think Lyon showed he's not an option.

0

FLA

First Toronto, now this.

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Crazy!

All of the momentum is going against them now

Than Florida, and it's showing.

Wow did Boston need that

flopping around the ice like flounders once again and the refs call penalties.

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flopping around the ice like flounders once again and the refs call penalties.

Agreed...should have been an embellishment call.

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This x1000. I'm sorry Pasta you wanna drive around the net you pay the price. That was nothing near a penalty

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Jesus just saw this. He had his numbers to him the whole time. Made a slight turn right before the hit, but that should be a Major and a Suspension. That's not old time hockey, that's a brutal hit on a defenseless player.

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In comment 16104198 pjcas18 said: Quote: worthy hit by Eberle? link - ( New Window ) Jesus just saw this. He had his numbers to him the whole time. Made a slight turn right before the hit, but that should be a Major and a Suspension. That's not old time hockey, that's a brutal hit on a defenseless player.

No suspension. 2 min minor.

Cogliano has a broken vertebrae.

That was a 100% dirty play, even if Eberle doesn't have a dirty history.

I have no dog in this fight, but I have no idea how that does not warrant a suspension.

the Bruins tie it up on the fake penalty resulting in a PP.

Great action this period

1:20 left, EN, Timeout

shit

from a game 7 OT

Woo!

Oh my Goodness. I'd be so fucking pissed if I were at that game as a Bruins fan.

…

F Boston, always.

time.

Again.

Just was injured to start the year but man if you pull Ullmark for game 7 you BETTER be right.

has been heroic or anything, but he has been better than Ullmark has been the past few games and good enough for the Bruins to win.

has been kind of heroic in OT though, so far

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has been kind of heroic in OT though, so far

No doubt. .

Boston

Wow!

They can enjoy their President's Trophy

Another president's trophy/record setting machine team is DONE.

Boston

Enjoy the offseason.

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Enjoy the offseason.

The look on Marchand’s face was priceless

and choked

I'll laugh later

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and choked

and 65 wins ...

and choked. Pathetic.

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Meh he had a nice breakaway save but the tying and winning goals can't happen short side.

..

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Mostly agree...but he never even saw that last one

was kind of invisible that series.

Tkachuk, Bennett, Reinhart, Montour, even Verhaeghe stood out more than Barkov. If he catches fire things could change, but IMO Maple Leafs will be heavy favorites.

Anyone but TOR or CAR as far as I'm concerned now that BOS is out.

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And a one goal lead with one minute to play in the game

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He had a nice save on the one-timer too.

Tkachuk screened him, and Verhaege wired that - he had no chance on that goal. Carlo (?) needs to move Tkachuk out of the way or block the shot. More importantly though unless I'm missing one, the Bruins didn't even have a scoring chance the final 5+ of the 3rd or at all in OT. That game is not on Swayman even a little.

whacks left at the pinata. Bergeron is about to retire, Marchand is a out to be 35, Krejci is ancient. Man the stakes for Devs-Rangers tomorrow just got a loooooot bigger.

I think Krejci had already retired and played the last two years in the Czech Republic.

they have a lot of UFA's but still a good core.

They had a couple of great chances before the eventual GW.

Shocking loss.

Bruins and their fans in total shock.
That is why you play the games!!
Stanley Cup playoffs are the best..nothing like it in sports.

I was just telling a buddy of mine Bergeron looked like he was injured and not a concussion or stomach flu. I wouldn't be shocked if Marchand has something too.

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Patrice Bergeron told the media that he has a herniated disc in his back. He will take some time and discuss his future with his family before making a decision on whether he will play next season.

goal, but SEA leads COL 1-0, two upsets tonight?

Biz just said the two best American born players will face off in TOR vs FLA.

Maybe Jack Hughes has something to say about that tomorrow night (or Jason Robertson - who gets no respect playing in Dallas)

Have to say I wish there is an Olympics soon that the NHL participates in because the US talent is at it's best IMO.

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Most points in a playoff series vs the Bruins:
15- Mario Lemieux (1991)
13- Mike Bossy (1983)
13- Wayne Gretzky (1988)
12- Guy Lafleur (1979)
12- Peter Stastny (1982)
11- @FlaPanthers
Matthew Tkachuk (2023)
11- Bryan Trottier ('80)
11- Michel Goulet ('82)
11- Pat LaFontaine ('92)

SEA.

cut the lead in half (2-1) with a MacKinnon PP one-timer blast.

time winding down in the 2nd.

I think that goal is going to be called back

Fucking hate that about sports. Get all excited about a score and it comes back.

Almost gave the kraken an insurmountable lead.

2 min left for the avs to tie it.

Bjorkstrand hit 3 posts

Doesn't matter. Seattle wins.

Oh shit. Seattle vs Dallas. A history of HATE between the two hockey teams.

but tonight they decide to go all March Madness on us!

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Love the freakshows sporting Kraken gear in Colorado, carrying on as if this is some long suffered for WIN.

Lol. I saw that. They just gotta bring back the SuperSonics and all is right with the world.

Avs and Bruins lost yesterday.

But I think PJ said it. Panthers were the only team in the wild card spot who could challenge Boston. HUGE upset there.

Wow.

Let's Go Rangers

Sorry pjcas18, Brett, Stu and 47 year old upcoming Long Island rapper. I forgot to take my meds.

I am back with you.

tonight, all eyes on Newark as

NJD vs NYR game 7 @8pm

I like the Rangers in this on the money line, simply because Igor has done what I thought he'd do and elevated his game to playoff Igor. You can't help but get the stats thrown in your face, I think it's 22 (?) consecutive playoff games he has allowed 3 goals or less. I don't pin the game 6 loss on Schmid anymore than I pinned 1 and 2 on Vanecek, but Igor is a difference maker.

I think Igor won 2 game 7's last year and most of the Devils have never even played in one AFAIK. That can also make a difference.

Put your cat food on the Rangers and you double your chow.

Still kind of surprised Boston blew that wow

in recent years.

They were up 3 games to none vs the Flyers and blew that series. Making it worse, they were up 3-0 in game 7. One of the biggest chokes in NHL history. Maybe the biggest?

The Bruins were actually up 3 games to 1 vs Toronto in 2013 before losing the next two but everyone remembers that for the ridiculous choke job for the Leafs blowing the 4-1 lead late in that game. One of the bigger single game chokes in recent NHL history.

And now last night, the Bruins blow a late lead and give it away in OT and the team with the most wins in NHL history fails to get out of round 1 despite having a 3-1 series lead.

Flyers game.

When the Bruins were up 3 - 0 in that game my buddies and I went nuts at the bar, way over-extended ourselves, partied like rock stars and then watched it all come crashing down.

it was glorious (to this habs fan).

I still love their late game collapse against Chicago in 2013

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Flyers game. When the Bruins were up 3 - 0 in that game my buddies and I went nuts at the bar, way over-extended ourselves, partied like rock stars and then watched it all come crashing down. it was glorious (to this habs fan).

2010?

How does one become a Montreal canadiens/Giants fan?

I know one guy who is a Saints/Yankees fan

and we were at the Black Bear Saloon in New Haven watching it and to make it even more memorable one of my buddies was mugged outside the bar after the game walking to a hotel.

I was glad a Boston team blew a 3-0 series lead, even if it was against the Flyers.

Gloria St Louis Blues

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Gloria St Louis Blues

I hate when game 7's are boring. It ANGERS me. The 2011 Game 7 Canucks/Bruins was boring.

paying for the GMs failures, though with Gaudreau and Tkachuk they didn't win either.


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Still working on details, but there is word today that Calgary will be making a coaching change.

Sutter out in Calgary

Shot their load and have little left in their tank against my boys….but while that make work for the first game, I doubt it can work throughout all of them.

Go Leafs Go!

Matthews, Marner, Taveras, Nylander…..make Canada and Ontario proud.

fuck the Leafs.

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Shot their load and have little left in their tank against my boys….but while that make work for the first game, I doubt it can work throughout all of them. Go Leafs Go! Matthews, Marner, Taveras, Nylander…..make Canada and Ontario proud.

You do know this series is being billed as the two best American players playing against each other, right?

Matthews vs Tkachuk

As I mentioned before you could argue Jack Hughes or Jason Robertson, or a few others, but certainly a strong case could be made for Matthews and Tkachuk - and they also happen to be their teams respective best players.

and everything has changed. No BOS, no COL, no NYR - three teams I thought could win, no TBL, no MIN, no WIN, no NYI, and no LAK.

Conference Semi-Finals start tonight the matchups:

EAST
TOR vs FLA (starts tonight at 7pm)
CAR vs NJD (starts tomorrow at 7pm)

WEST
LVG vs EDM (starts tomorrow at 9:30)
DAL vs SEA (starts tonight at 9:30)

my new favorite (always a dark horse for me) is DAL. Yes, I'm disrespecting LVG (still) and SEA, but DAL has all the ingredients to win a title IMO.

let's go Connor McDavid!

Ha

round schedule per Elliotte

out to a 2-0 lead over TOR. Almost halfway through the 2nd,.

Seems like Bobrovsky has found the fountain of youth. he's playing well. For now.

2nd goal off a Maple Leaf in front (Knies)

Knies comes right back and answers to make it 2-1

.

fountain of youth is not for people my age.

TOR ties it on the Bunting goal but then Verhaege get is back - 3-2 FLA.

2 min left in the 2nd.

Entertaining game. No clue how FLA beat BOS. The FLA D is no bueno.

I know Ekblad is hurt but I think he's been brutal.

scores on a delayed penalty.

Montour (he had two goals vs BOS).

Looked like goalie interference real time.

I wonder if they challenge.

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scores on a delayed penalty. Montour (he had two goals vs BOS). Looked like goalie interference real time. I wonder if they challenge.

no challenge. 4-2 FLA with 7:22 left.

was the final.

DAL vs SEA puck drop now. Pavelski in.

SEA scored 1st in all 7 playoff games they've played in their franchise history.

Pavelski opens the scoring. 1-0 DAL.

coughed up the puck to SEA forececk and Wennberg buried it to tie it up.

Pavelski then tips it high slot into the net for his 2nd of the game, DAL up 2-1

Bergeron, Hischier, Marner named Selke Trophy finalists, I hate to say it, at this point, Bergeron is being included based on name at this point.

Hughes, Kopitar, Point named Lady Byng Trophy finalists

Haha loser Dallas

scores two goals in 11 seconds to take the lead.

3-2 SEA.

again, 4-2, I wonder if Oettinger gets yanked.

But a performance from Joe Pavelski for the ages with 4 goals for Dallas including 2 in the 3rd to tie it. The tying goal was a circus trick batting the puck out of mid air.

Seattle like the Devils (without the high end skill of Hughes, Hischier, etc.) - that forecheck is relentless.

Pavelski was great, set a record for oldest player in NHL history with 4 goals in a playoff game.

But his career is really underated. He's not a poster child for the league, but he is a big time HOF'er

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But his career is really underated. He's not a poster child for the league, but he is a big time HOF'er

I brought him up that way to someone on here and they said no way HOFer. He is a 1-time AS with no cups.

he has a strange career.

1000+ games, 1000+ points

accumulator? or dominant?

his best offensive season was at 37 years old

I love his game, but I think some people voting for the HOF won't consider him in totality, but will look at stats and he won't get in.

Fingers crossed!

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In comment 16108271 Stu11 said: Quote: But his career is really underated. He's not a poster child for the league, but he is a big time HOF'er I brought him up that way to someone on here and they said no way HOFer. He is a 1-time AS with no cups. he has a strange career. 1000+ games, 1000+ points accumulator? or dominant? his best offensive season was at 37 years old I love his game, but I think some people voting for the HOF won't consider him in totality, but will look at stats and he won't get in.

Oh wow I didn't realize he only made 1 ASG. Maybe I was wrong about the HOF then. He has had his best years the older he has gotten. Did captain the US team too. We'll see. The HOF voters in hockey are weird. Somehow Roberto Luongo is a HOF'er and Patrick Elias isn't.

when the opponent actually puts shots on goal against him.

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when the opponent actually puts shots on goal against him.

Or when morons with the last name Fox do not know how to play a puck properly in their own zone on the PP.

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Fingers crossed!

I'm going to go with Edmonton vs Florida for the whole thing.

Beniers, Power and Skinner.

Seems like a weak-ish year, I'd go Beniers, I like his game. Not just offensively, but defensively he plays beyond his years.

Skinner is 24, I know it's not like Matsui-aged for a rookie and it's probably even young for goalies these days, but the other two are 20 years olds making their seasons more impressive.

I guess we can't play Adam fox or little Timmy Panarin every night.

a period of time without seeing McDavid I forget how much faster he is than everyone else and how much better a skater.

He looks like he's on turbo. Or in today's terms has a "cheat code"

McDavid set up Draisaitl on the PP, then vegas answers.

1-1

(IMO) let in by Skinner, 2-1 Vegas

of goalie (and D) will kill them.

but they are fun to watch.

Draisaitl with the intentional off the back of the goalie's head goal with 10 seconds left in the 1st, makes it a 3-2 Vegas lead.

I picked up a few tickets for Devils game 3 and 4 lol dirt cheap ... Hopefully it's a rocking series by then

From going to so many away games, and if you look at my email you'd think I'm a Pirates Mets Yankees Phillies O's Bears Caps Islanders Devils Jaguars Broncos fan

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of goalie (and D) will kill them. but they are fun to watch. Draisaitl with the intentional off the back of the goalie's head goal with 10 seconds left in the 1st, makes it a 3-2 Vegas lead.

Basically all of these teams are "fun" to watch when you're not watching the Rangers fuck things up

So do I have this correct or not but did we have two players score four goals in one game on back-to-back nights in a losing effort?

in the 3rd period, but it was pretty obvious EDM D could not handle the Vegas forecheck.

If EDM gets bounced I hope McDavid demands a trade.

I wouldn't even know what that trade would look like. I guess maybe something like Gretzky to LA (3 1sts and 2 prospects (and cash)). Gretzky was a couple years older, but also more dominant (statistically and in terms of rings).

for a very long time than a Hall of Famer.

The thing about McDavid isn't just his speed, which is phenomenal itself, but that he can do all the amazing things he can do at top speed. He doesn't slow down at all when he's handling the puck, making passes, shooting, etc.

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for a very long time than a Hall of Famer.

Yeah that's fair. I probably was a little over zealous calling him a hall of famer. He's probably one of those guys who's leadership intangibles outweigh his #'s. The problem with that is he's never won a cup. If he were to lead Dallas to one this year maybe it makes a better case for him.

with Marleau, Pavelski, and Thornton (talk about strength down the middle) were so good for so long (without winning a cup) people elevate Marleau and Pavelski I think.

Marleau is another guy like Pavelski who is very likely not a HOFer.

Jumbo Joe probably will be eventually.

The Eddie Murray of hockey?

He's a HOF lock.

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with Marleau, Pavelski, and Thornton (talk about strength down the middle) were so good for so long (without winning a cup) people elevate Marleau and Pavelski I think. Marleau is another guy like Pavelski who is very likely not a HOFer. Jumbo Joe probably will be eventually.

I always used to bet against SJ because I knew they couldn't do it lol

Western Conference Final. Let all of the fans go ballistic over seeing the expansion teams with so much success. IMO, Carolina is the best team remaining in the East (and is going to probably run the Metro for the next 5 years),

NHL playoff ratings have been really good so far, but it'll be interesting to see how they hold up if something like Carolina/Florida was the eastern final.

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He's a HOF lock.

He will get in and should but I think the accumulator label is kind of warranted from a stat standpoint. He is 12th all time in points and 7th all time in assists.

but in 24 (holy shit that's a lot) seasons he had one great year - 2005-2006 the year he was traded from BOS to SJS. He won Hart and Ross.

Otherwise, 4 AS appearances and no other awards and no rings.

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I picked up a few tickets for Devils game 3 and 4 lol dirt cheap ... Hopefully it's a rocking series by then

Gonna wear your Rangers sweater?

But when you compile THAT much, you get it. 1000 pts over, say, 20 seasons is borderline. 1500 over 24 gets you in.

I couldn't name you five guys on Seattle. No idea who plays for that team.

game 2's

FLA @TOR @7pm FLA leads 1-0
SEA @DAL @9:30pm SEA leads 1-0

road teams won 2 of the 4 round 2 game 1's.


Petr Klima passed away yesterday at 58 years old. Most famous for his triple OT game winner in game 1 1990 SCF vs BOS in the Oilers lone SC win post Gretzky. Klima was also part of that massive trade from DET to EDM along with Adam Graves and Joe Murphy.

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game 2's FLA @TOR @7pm FLA leads 1-0 SEA @DAL @9:30pm SEA leads 1-0 road teams won 2 of the 4 round 2 game 1's. Petr Klima passed away yesterday at 58 years old. Most famous for his triple OT game winner in game 1 1990 SCF vs BOS in the Oilers lone SC win post Gretzky. Klima was also part of that massive trade from DET to EDM along with Adam Graves and Joe Murphy.

Didn't Klima end up in Muckler's Le Chateu bow wow for that game and the shift where he scored the winner was like his first shift of the multiple OT's?

He was the freshest guy on the ice because he hadn't played since the second period, I think.

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In comment 16109341 pjcas18 said: Quote: game 2's FLA @TOR @7pm FLA leads 1-0 SEA @DAL @9:30pm SEA leads 1-0 road teams won 2 of the 4 round 2 game 1's. Petr Klima passed away yesterday at 58 years old. Most famous for his triple OT game winner in game 1 1990 SCF vs BOS in the Oilers lone SC win post Gretzky. Klima was also part of that massive trade from DET to EDM along with Adam Graves and Joe Murphy. Didn't Klima end up in Muckler's Le Chateu bow wow for that game and the shift where he scored the winner was like his first shift of the multiple OT's?

Yeah, he was benched. NGL I don't know the details about it, but when I read his obit they mentioned it his triple OT GW was after he had been benched for parts of the game.

Buffalo Bills jersey

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But no lol enough of them for a whole year. Onto the Giants. I think I hate the Rangers and they piss me off more than they do Devils fans. Boiling.

scores on a softie (both soft D and soft goalie) 10 seconds into the second

ties it up a 2, after TOR had been winning 2-0

to Forsling - 3-2 FLA.

two goals in the first 1:06 of the second.

finalists named.

Fox, Karlsson, and Makar.

Should be Karlsson in a landslide IMO.

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to Forsling - 3-2 FLA. two goals in the first 1:06 of the second.

that was such a perfect play. every guy made the exact right 'team of destiny' read.

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In comment 16109750 pjcas18 said: Quote: to Forsling - 3-2 FLA. two goals in the first 1:06 of the second. that was such a perfect play. every guy made the exact right 'team of destiny' read.

I love watching plays like that.

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In comment 16109753 Eric on Li said: Quote: In comment 16109750 pjcas18 said: Quote: to Forsling - 3-2 FLA. two goals in the first 1:06 of the second. that was such a perfect play. every guy made the exact right 'team of destiny' read. I love watching plays like that against toronto in the playoffs.

fixed for you.

Bobrovsky has been incredible

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Bobrovsky has been incredible

yes

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In comment 16109791 RCPhoenix said: Quote: Bobrovsky has been incredible yes

He’s like a human octopus

I love this Florida team. Unfortunately they have to lose because them winning would make me and pj look dumb for shitting on Maurice and the Bobrovsky deal.

Anthony Duclair is a really nice player. I know he had bad injury luck this year but he makes some little plays. NYR could have used him lol.

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I love this Florida team. Unfortunately they have to lose because them winning would make me and pj look dumb for shitting on Maurice and the Bobrovsky deal. Anthony Duclair is a really nice player. I know he had bad injury luck this year but he makes some little plays. NYR could have used him lol.

Florida certainly packs a Lizzo-sized lunch

losing two at home, hopefully they at least make a series of it.

DAL evens up with SEA, who continues to impress me.

now the schedule slows to a crawl.

one game tonight,

NJD @CAR @8pm, CAR leads 1-0

I was 1-1 last night. Won some cat food on Florida but lost some on Seattle.

I have no clue who wins tonight with Jersey. Couldn't care less about that one.

Montgomery (BOS)
Ruff (NJD)
Hackstol (SEA)

All have good cases, but I think Montgomery wins this.

Also, Matthew Knies has a concussion and is likely out of the series, if not the playoffs (should the Leafs advance)

Lol Devil fans whine about the refs yet they're clearly licking NJ's ass CLEAN early on

Zzz zzz 💤

But it's making me even angrier about how the Rangers underperformed in the last round. Carolina is down a bunch of starters and they're making the Devils look like chumps. Zero excuse for the Rangers to have not done the same at full strength.

to yank Schmid again.

Boooooooring

to fire Gallant.

Although through 2 games the Rangers did basically the same thing to NJD (though a lot of damage was on the PP), and we saw how that turned out.

I'm an old man. What's the humor with Pete Davidson? What's his humor? Just not being funny?

Carolina scores again ...

I think Edmonton knots this thing back up tonight

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to fire Gallant. Although through 2 games the Rangers did basically the same thing to NJD (though a lot of damage was on the PP), and we saw how that turned out.

So who is this big winner replacement? Guys like Panarin and Mika no-show in the playoffs and they make dumbass trades for big name over the hill dudes and ... they don't do shit. As always.

The best player on the ice for the Rangers is the goalie whose "men" in front of him score 0 goals in game 7 playoff games. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

EDM @LVG @7PM

I also think EDM ties it up, but I have been disrespecting LVG all year, so I'm probably wrong.

Monday at 8pm.

this is one of those years the ping pong ball can be franchise altering.

Not like a Slafkovsky or Lafreniere draft, some scouts say Bedard is the best prospect since Gretzky.

I thought since McDavid, but it doesn't matter much IMO when you're deciding between Gretzky and McDavid. lol.

Odds for the top pick are below. But I should also say this is the best draft in a generation too. Adam Fantilli (consensus #2) is probably a better #1 than most years and Matvei Michkov is the best Russian prospect since Ovechkin. Add in high end talent like Will Smith, Leo Carlsson, and others, and there is a legit top 15 or so of this draft who can be stars.

2023 NHL draft lottery odds

Anaheim Ducks: 18.5 percent
Columbus Blue Jackets: 13.5 percent
Chicago Blackhawks: 11.5 percent
San Jose Sharks: 9.5 percent
Montreal Canadiens: 8.5 percent
Arizona Coyotes: 7.5 percent
Philadelphia Flyers: 6.5 percent
Washington Capitals: 6.0 percent
Detroit Red Wings: 5.0 percent
St. Louis Blues: 3.5 percent
Vancouver Canucks: 3.0 percent
Ottawa Senators: 2.5 percent (pick will go to the Coyotes if it is not in the top 5 as a result of the Jakub Chychrun trade)
Buffalo Sabres: 2.0 percent
Pittsburgh Penguins: 1.5 percent
Nashville Predators: 0.5 percent
Calgary Flames: 0.5 percent

Rangers gonna get a new coach. So they can be the same pathetic coach they've always been.

Need to lay off the angry posting. But this team does make me angry.

power play is ridiculous.

2-0 two PP goals for EDM

and now Draisaitl (who is on absolute fire) gets the 4th (his 12th).

4-0 EDM

interference challenge but Hyman was pushed into the goalie, so not sure

that was 13 for Draisaitl.

The all-time NHL record for goals in a single playoff is 19.

this is game 2 of the 2nd round.

Who has that record?

and another one!

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Who has that record?

Two people.

Jari Kurri (84-85)
Reggie Leach (75-76)

If I didn't see it on a graphic I never would have guessed Reggie Leach if I had a million guesses. But he did have 61 goals in the regular season that year on one of those Broad Street Bullies teams. He did it in 16 games.


Kurri would have been one of my first guesses, he lead all those Gretzky Oilers teams in playoff goals. He did it in 18 games.

In recent history, the closest is Sakic in 1996, he had 18 but did that in 22 games.

Interesting tidbit Leach won Conn Smythe when he had 19 goals, but PHI lost the cup to MTL.

I think it's the only Conn Smythe winner for the losing team.

Ducks in 2003?

1987: Ron Hextall*, Philadelphia Flyers

Sunday, May 7 2023

3:30p Hurricanes – Devils
Round 2, Game 3 TBS
6:30p Maple Leafs – Panthers
Round 2, Game 3 TBS
9:30p Stars – Kraken
Round 2, Game 3 TBS

has actually been won by a player on the losing team 5 times.

no idea what I was talking about, lol

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has actually been won by a player on the losing team 5 times. no idea what I was talking about, lol

Last one was the 2003 Devils SCF victory. Remember that series, when Scott Stevens nailed Paul Kariya in the head?

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In comment 16111043 pjcas18 said: Quote: has actually been won by a player on the losing team 5 times. no idea what I was talking about, lol Last one was the 2003 Devils SCF victory. Remember that series, when Scott Stevens nailed Paul Kariya in the head?

Yes, and Kariya got up off the mat and scored a goal. He has no recollection of it.

Or the games after it?

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Or the games after it?

Kariya is still messed up from concussions. He had 6 documented concussions, and probably a lot more un-diagnosed.

it's why he retired. He was 35 so age obviously played into it, but he wasn't right physically or mentally anymore and not due to age.

I don't even remember him playing for Colorado and all of that. St Louis? Those few years after the lockout of 2005 weren't exactly the most gripping for me lol

Damn. 8-4? What?

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Damn. 8-4? What?

fun game, but once NJD was up by 3 it was defense optional (on both sides)

in a likely insurmountable hole, lose in OT, now down 3-0

Fun games are 3-4 OTs. I feel like we haven't gotten many OT thrillers this year.

Against the Stars there.

Are awesome haha.

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Against the Stars there.

The definition of insult to injury

Would be the most random finals.

Another snoozer between Dallas and Seattle

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Would be the most random finals.

But I thought the NHL always favors big market teams?

He's definately elite, but he needs to pick up his game pronto. That 3rd goal was as soft as it gets.

4-0

a letdown. so many blowouts.

not enough OT's or even close games it seems.

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in a likely insurmountable hole, lose in OT, now down 3-0

Amazing….not one penalty against Florida. That Sam McCauley ref has some bad history with the Leafs…..but not making excuses, we lost……oh well…..just bringing this up to hear your thoughts….

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a letdown. so many blowouts. not enough OT's or even close games it seems.

Yep I agree. Just look at the Devils. They've played 10 playoff games, and I believe 8 of them have been at least a 3 goal lead with 10 minutes to play. A lot of bad goaltending so far. Goalies getting yanked and the Panthers run has probably been the biggest story of the playoffs.

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In comment 16111501 pjcas18 said: Quote: in a likely insurmountable hole, lose in OT, now down 3-0 Amazing….not one penalty against Florida. That Sam McCauley ref has some bad history with the Leafs…..but not making excuses, we lost……oh well…..just bringing this up to hear your thoughts….

Like Chris Rooney with MTL. I think the officiating has been mostly ok, I have the benefit of watching the games with no bias - which is much less stressful, lol - so I think some things are missed each game, but usually both ways.

I thought there was some awful calls against CAR yesterday (and a couple against NJD). For example I never see the reverse hit called as interference. Technically it is, but it's never called. While down 5-4 yesterday, CAR got an interference penalty due to a reverse hit. Brind'amour went nuts, rightfully so.

I'm a huge sports fan of all the big 4 and hockey is by far and away the best officiated of the 4. Sure we can all beef about a call here and there but they are very consistent. They call most everything obstruction wise and most of the high sticks. There were some mistakes procedurally in the 1st Rd but overall I feel they're the best of the big 4.

Chicago #1

tied at 1.

Brossoit just injured, looked like a groin or hamstring.

Adin Hill in.

No Jonathan Quick. kind of surprised Quick isn't the backup.

2-1 now

such a punk. Glad they didn't call Pietrangelo too (for getting hit late and high)

Leon needs to fucking shoot that

Lol good God 4-1

has failed their fan base once again.

two of those goals were brutal to allow. one was questionable.

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has failed their fan base once again. two of those goals were brutal to allow. one was questionable.

It's going to be Seattle vs Vegas and you know it

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In comment 16112329 pjcas18 said: Quote: has failed their fan base once again. two of those goals were brutal to allow. one was questionable. It's going to be Seattle vs Vegas and you know it

they way they're both playing it will be.

anymore.

such shitty hockey.

Would be cool to see the oilers get out of this series though.

A lot of boring blowout snoozer games lately

let's hope for something close to resembling 2 teams in each game showing up with effort and urgency like playoff hockey is supposed to be played.

CAR @NJD @7PM (CAR leads 2-1, CAR goalie decision TBD)
DAL @SEA @9:30PM (SEA leads 2-1, DAL may be without Heiskanen)

I think the Devils tie this series

should be rocking. While Connor Bedard sure as hell is a nice reward, it really felt good to have a draft lottery happen and to not give a crap.

Joe Pompliano
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How good is Connor Bedard?

Just 90 minutes after winning the NHL Draft lottery last night, the Chicago Blackhawks had already sold 500 season ticket packages — worth $2.5 million.

"We haven't stopped smiling, and the phones haven't stopped ringing."

(h/t @Sportico
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Joe Pompliano @JoePompliano · 3m How good is Connor Bedard? Just 90 minutes after winning the NHL Draft lottery last night, the Chicago Blackhawks had already sold 500 season ticket packages — worth $2.5 million. "We haven't stopped smiling, and the phones haven't stopped ringing." (h/t @Sportico )

The NHL was probably doing cartwheels when that Chicago ball came up. Anaheim would have been fine, but in the stratosphere of LA he wouldn't have had the impact he'll have in Chicago. Its a great hockey town and a huge TV market. Instantly the Hawks will be back on ABC for national games probably 3 or 4 times next season. A big playoff game for Hockey or basketball at the old Chicago Stadium was one of the best atmospheres throughout sports history.

caution for the CHI fans is that even if Bedard is as good as McDavid from day 1, what does that mean for the franchise?

I don't mean to seem contradictory, McDavid has been franchise altering for EDM and Bedard will be too for CHI, but what does it mean? Without McDavid EDM is not making the playoffs, but even with McDavid they have not done well in the playoffs.

And CHI has no Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, they don't even have a Zach Hyman or Evander Kane.

CHI is almost completely devoid of talent IMO.

They don't even really have good prospects and they have Seth Jones on a really bad contract IMO.

I do think they have a lot of cap room and if they were smart and patient they *would not* go out and sign a bunch of free agents, but they'd use that cap room to acquire premium draft picks and young players.

CHI is the team who dealt Panarin and Teravainen in an attempt to build a winner, may as well be the beneficiary of some other team's impetuousness.

Just need to be patient.

That roster is very empty talent wise. Look at the Devils. They drafted Jack 4 years ago. It took awhile. Bedard is further along physically than Jack was but it's still gonna take time. They probably need a top pick next year as well

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That roster is very empty talent wise. Look at the Devils. They drafted Jack 4 years ago. It took awhile. Bedard is further along physically than Jack was but it's still gonna take time. They probably need a top pick next year as well

I think Bedard and Hughes are similar prospects. Bedard doesn't skate quite as well as McDavid and maybe not quite Hughes either (close), but Bedard plays a physical 5' 10" or whatever he's listed at and Bedard's shot might even be better than Hughes and McDavid. Bedard uses shot angles like Matthews does. I don't know I've seen more release points from anyone.

And don't forget two years before Jack the Devils got Hischier #1 overall and since have had #7, #4, and #2 overall to add to their prospect pool - not even counting any later draft picks.

CHI closest thing was Kirby Dach (and they traded him to MTL basically for Frankie Nazar).

Only the latest draft did CHI have meaningful draft picks (Korchinski and Nazar who I like), maybe Lukas Reichel from a couple years ago otherwise the cupboard is barren IMO.

So basically from a roster building standpoint - CHI is well behind EDM when they added McDavid and well behind NJD when they added Hughes.

A lot of pressure on Bedard.

What is a cartilage transplant? is that like a torn ACL or worse? Sounds worse. You don't get a lot of soft tissue or knee injuries in hockey compared to football or baseball (soft tissue).

Colorado Avalanche
@Avalanche
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Colorado Avalanche captain Gabriel Landeskog will undergo a cartilage transplant in his right knee on May 10. The surgery will be performed by Dr. Brian Cole at the Rush University Medical Center in Chicago. The 30-year-old forward is expected to miss the entire 2023-24 season.

Just curious….who do you like for your Habs #5 pick? It looks like your Florida pick is going to be wayyyyyyy down now. Sorry my boys didn’t help you out there.

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Just curious….who do you like for your Habs #5 pick? It looks like your Florida pick is going to be wayyyyyyy down now. Sorry my boys didn’t help you out there.

I like Will Smith the most, but I think he's going #3 and then I like Leo Carlsson and 3rd I like Matvei Michkov because who knows how long he'll be in Russia.

Smith and Carlsson are good sized centers. Carlsson bigger, but Smith is 6-feet.

Michkov is a wing, but so slick and talented, if not for the uncertainty with Russian players he'd easily go #3 IMO.

If the Habs need to pick one of the next players it could be any of Zach Benson (W), Ryan Leonard (C), I love Sandin-Pellikka (D) game other than his size, but I could take him at 5 depending on who else is there, Dalibor Dvorsky (C), David Reinbacher (D) - this is a deep draft.

Best case FLA pick would have been at 17, but now I'd look to trade it for a player and MTL can speed up the rebuild (with some health this year)

Would you trade both your #1s plus Suzuki plus Guhle for Chicago’s #1?

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Would you trade both your #1s plus Suzuki plus Guhle for Chicago’s #1?

tough one. I don't think so.

I think Suzuki is a legit 1C, he's not Bedard good, and Guhle is a top 4 D and Smith/Michkov/Carlsson are likely top 6 players.

I'd probably do it without Suzuki though. Two firsts and Guhle - which is kind of like 3 1sts since Guhle was a 1st.

and Maybe add in another piece like the rights to Monahan.

trade (Suzuki, Guhle, and 2 1sts for Bedard) makes MTL better.

Maybe if Suzuki was 30 and not 23 I'd feel differently.

What do you think the Leafs do this offseason 5bowls if TOR loses tomorrow?

10 UFA's (not many core players) and 1 RFA (Samsonov)

Muzzin probably not on LTIR next year (right?)

so not a ton of cap space either (~$18M?) without Muzzin, ~$12M with him.

And the Leafs do have a 1st round pick (late 1st) but no 2nd, 3rd or 4th and no 2nd next year and possibly no 1st in 2025.

Not looking good in Jersey

for a competitive game.

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for a competitive game.

This has been a dull edition of the NHL playoffs!

Here comes the savior lol

playoffs ever.

I almost don't even care who wins the cup at this point.

Once TOR gets bounced, I do hate CAR but not as much as BOS or TOR, so won't care really who wins.

Cannot believe the Rangers lost to these wimps. I didn't think I'd dislike a crop losers more than Nash, Girardi, Staal etc. Ok, in retrospect Tampa Bay and the LA kings were some good teams and been to and won multiple cups, but these guys? Lol. Carolina is working them like they don't even belong there.

Zibanejad, Panarin Kakko and those other no show dorks may have just lowered the bar. Put your head down.

I have learned to grow as a human being.

is making a series of it.

but we must have or be approaching a record for goalies chased in a playoffs.

both starting losing goalies last night were chased.

Possible handshakes tonight in one game and a crucial game 4 in the other.

TOR @FLA @7PM, Panthers up 3-0, Woll in net for TOR
LVG @EDM @10PM, LVG up 2-1

I'm going to go with Toronto and Edmonton

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for a competitive game.

I have no problem with Devils games being noncompetitive, though

2 OT losses on fluky goals might be viewed in a different context considering how the playoffs are being played out.

A lot can change even over the next few days, but CAR is the cup favorite at the moment IMO.

Rally begins for Toronto ... NOW

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I'm going to go with Toronto and Edmonton

I'm going with "being right"

I don't know. I wouldn't count Jersey out either. I think they can steal one tonight in Carolina.

hired as Flyers President. Briere has "interim" label removed from his GM title.

Not sure how those from the broadcast booth to the front office changes work out. Jones has been an analyst for 20+ years.

I do think PHI should tear it down as much as they can. So many immovable albatross contracts IMO. Hayes, Provorov, Couturier, Atkinson, Konecny, and maybe more - no guarantee Couturier actually plays again.

I'd even trade their young players like Cam York (who I like) Joel Farabee, Owen Tippett, etc. - I don't know that there is an untouchable player on their roster.

Because otherwise I'd think it wouldn't be too tough to trade him. He's a solid player and still fairly young.

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Because otherwise I'd think it wouldn't be too tough to trade him. He's a solid player and still fairly young.

2 more years at $5.5M

Good player, just so injured....

You're right he can probably be moved.

Nothing too serious but it's been a while since he's played a full season

I don't think Nurse is great and his contract is bloated, but he's still a top 4 D.

NHL Player Safety
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Vegas’ Alex Pietrangelo has been fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for slashing against Edmonton’s Leon Draisaitl.

Edmonton’s Darnell Nurse has been automatically suspended for one game under Rule 46.21, Instigating in the Final Five Minutes of Regulation.

tonight, one possible handshakes

NJD @CAR @7PM CAR up 3-1
SEA @DAL @9:30PM Series tied at 2

group is out on the Sens bid.

Not sure if that is the same group as Snoop Dogg.

I hope the Oilers win it all. That McDavid kid is something & I don't think Canada has won a Cup since '93 with the Canadiens beating Gretzky & the Kings, though I might be wrong about that.

finalists announced.

Hellebuyck, Sorokin, and Ullmark

I think Ullmark wins, but Sorokin should

Ullmark was ridiculous, but I feel like Sorokin did more with less if you know what I mean.

how Fast missed/Schmid saved that

Nice sequence of passing by the Devils there

of a pass by Meier, Mercer doesn't miss, 1-0 NJD

I believe.

Tony Androckitis*
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Play is stopped as a Hartford player appeared to collapse at the Wolf Pack bench. @InsideAHLHockey

The player in question was helped to the locker room. They've since rushed a stretcher onto the ice and into the WOlf Pack locker room.

Scary scene here in Hershey.

he's ok.

tie it -looked like a deflection

for NJD, to take the lead 2-1

Huge face off win, pass by Hughes to Hamilton and Meier picks up the garbage

NHL Player Safety
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Vegas’ Alex Pietrangelo has been suspended for one playoff game for Slashing against Edmonton’s Leon Draisaitl.
https://nhl.com/video/pietrangelo-suspended-1-game/t-277350912/c-17134225

made up for the Fast miss.

Meier just missed an open net.

ties it a 2 with 38 seconds left in the period, looked like a screen

Hurricanes break the fragile residents of North Jersey's hearts again in the playoffs

no goalies chased yet.

soul crushing goals all year. That was a killer. Screens tips meh. Those are goals Schmid wants back.

Stepan could've been a hero

if you're CAR getting a series winning OT goal is special.

If you're NJD getting a OT goal to keep your team alive is special too. Less special, but still...

out. PP goal Kotkaniemi (maybe tipped), on an over the glass delay

FTD, but I hate that puck over the glass rule. Sucks that's what cost them the game.

And good night. "Cute little fun run" or whatever every common fan says these days.

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FTD, but I hate that puck over the glass rule. Sucks that's what cost them the game.

But yo check this out they eliminated the Rangers

why Tatar (?) went back to Siegenthaler on that play. Unless he was not aware the D partner went for a change. There was a player in Siegenthaler's grill as soon as he got the puck.

All playoffs they never stopped taking stupid penalties starting game 1 vs the Rangers.

But fucking awful roster management to let Fast walk and then sign Goodrow to a long-term deal.


Whatever. Another ex-Ranger who thrives once he leaves here.

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But fucking awful roster management to let Fast walk and then sign Goodrow to a long-term deal. Whatever. Another ex-Ranger who thrives once he leaves here.

Fast has had the exact same seasons in CAR he had in NY.

In some ways better in NY.

Only difference is he'll hoist up the cup in Carolina lol

Just how dominant Carolina can be at the blueline. Their D is a group of big physical skilled guys that hit like trucks and form a walk at the offensive blueline during the forecheck. The Devils were able to beat the forecheck all year by chipping the puck out for odd man rushes. Didn't happen much at all this series. Sometimes you have to tip your cap to the other team.

Who gives a shit?

Anyway, big kudos to the Dallas Stars for jumping ahead in their series. Thought that they were done and it was not looking good.

Oh, baby. Can the Toronto Maple leafs go on a magical run? Big one tonight between Edmonton vs Vegas.

I think Florida ends the series tonight and Edmonton jumps ahead. Let's go. The dream ECF I always wanted: Carolina vs Florida.

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Just how dominant Carolina can be at the blueline. Their D is a group of big physical skilled guys that hit like trucks and form a walk at the offensive blueline during the forecheck. The Devils were able to beat the forecheck all year by chipping the puck out for odd man rushes. Didn't happen much at all this series. Sometimes you have to tip your cap to the other team.

I don't quite see it that way, 38 year old Brent Burns, Gostisbehere, Brett Pesce, those are not sturdy defensive defenseman, those are offensive defenseman. Their main difference IMO is their D constantly activate make it seem like their forecheck has 3 or 4 players constantly involved.

And their forwards come back (all the way) down low with the same vigor as they forecheck with. I said in the beginning of the playoffs Kotkaniemi has become a beast defensively and I didn't even know the half of it - he may not put up 100 point seasons (who knows), but he is playing an incredible 2C - eventually Selke level IMO and he hits everything in sight and he's scoring big goals and making big plays.

I actually see these two teams as a lot alike with maybe CAR getting better goaltending and a year or two later in their development.

Burns flattened Timo Meier. That was my point. Coming in you didn't view the Canes as big and physical, more join the forecheck types. They played it this series though and it was a big difference. The Devils D played scared in their own zone, especially the games in Carolina. I know Burns is 38 but he sure didn't play like it this series. I mean part of it is the Devils are smallish so maybe that's part of it but Timo sure isn't.

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Burns flattened Timo Meier. That was my point. Coming in you didn't view the Canes as big and physical, more join the forecheck types. They played it this series though and it was a big difference. The Devils D played scared in their own zone, especially the games in Carolina. I know Burns is 38 but he sure didn't play like it this series. I mean part of it is the Devils are smallish so maybe that's part of it but Timo sure isn't.

I remember the play, I kind of viewed it as Meier with the cage struggling with the puck a little, seemed to be fighting it all series.

Burns is a massive dude, he's like an NFL TE. He can hit and play physical and he used to, he just doesn't anymore.

He had 40 hits all year and played 82 games - he's just not a physical player. I think that play was just opportunistic not stylistic.

either way, not a huge deal.

"Devils eliminated due to goalie instability"

I may agree with that to an extent, but nothing like pinning a series loss on two people. (I did not read past the headline).

Two games tonight, one possible handshake.

TOR vs FLA @7pm FLA leads 3-1 (Woll in net again for TOR)
LVG vs EDM @10pm series tied at 2 (no Nurse and no Pietrangelo)

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"Devils eliminated due to goalie instability" I may agree with that to an extent, but nothing like pinning a series loss on two people. (I did not read past the headline). Two games tonight, one possible handshake. TOR vs FLA @7pm FLA leads 3-1 (Woll in net again for TOR) LVG vs EDM @10pm series tied at 2 (no Nurse and no Pietrangelo)

I mean yeah. Hate to say it. They weren't good. They just looked like Patrick Roy against the "idiot squad" known as the 2023 Rangers. What happened to Schmid against Carolina should've been a normal occurrence the first time around.

McDavid, Pastrnak, and Tkachuk

Any other year Pasta or Tkachuk may have had a chance, but not this one. McDavid in a landslide.

to open this one.

PP goal by Ekblad, Woll keeping the Leafs hopes alive.

1-0 FLA. It could be 3-0.

JFC that Toronto power play was brutal. What was that 403 passes in a row?

The Rangers may be a complete joke but at least I'm not a Leafs fan lol what a disaster

stole the momentum, but the FLA goes the other way and scores.

2-0 FLA. Bad angle

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stole the momentum, but the FLA goes the other way and scores. 2-0 FLA. Bad angle

Getting closer to Carolina vs Florida! Two big markets

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An old school southeast division battle.

these teams hate each other. so much history, tradition, fans who travel.

/s

should be a goal, I think, depending on when the whistle was blown

fans pelt the ice with garbage.

I don't think they ever blew the whistle, but the play was dead. TOR stopped playing celebrating a goal, but Rielly never saw that go in.

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fans pelt the ice with garbage. I don't think they ever blew the whistle, but the play was dead. TOR stopped playing celebrating a goal, but Rielly never saw that go in.

Lol nice love it when fans act unruly

Uh oh lol

tie it up, rare softie from Bobrovsky

Gotta say, I love the Daryl Hall and John Oates "goal song" lol reminds me of my dad singing that in 1986

when they played the song Gloria a few years ago. annoying but when they beat the Bruins I loved it.

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In comment 16115675 pjcas18 said:

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when they played the song Gloria a few years ago. annoying but when they beat the Bruins I loved it.

Hockey really needs an "alternate view" camera or something. So fucking annoying when there is a crucial moment at the end of the game and hands are blocking the puck.

In comment 16115675 pjcas18 said:

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when they played the song Gloria a few years ago. annoying but when they beat the Bruins I loved it.

I forgot about that. I hate feel good stories lol

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fans chanting "we want florida" after their series win, while BOS vs FLA was still in doubt, comes but to karmic-ly bite them in the ass.

Well, Florida vs. Carolina should be a fun matchup.... I mean it won't garner a lot of eyeballs, but it should be fun for the hockey fanatics.

In comment 16115842 pjcas18 said:

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fans chanting "we want florida" after their series win, while BOS vs FLA was still in doubt, comes but to karmic-ly bite them in the ass.

I mean we had some guys calling for the eagles after the Giants beat the Vikings ... Or was it fuck the eagles or something?

Either way, nice little fun run by the Giants. Be grateful!!

Good for Maurice to squeeze every last bit out of him before taking him out to pasture

Damn 5 minute boarding on Vegas

Auston Matthews 0 goals this series ... Pjcas18 what happened there?

In comment 16115913 Route 9 said:

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Auston Matthews 0 goals this series ... Pjcas18 what happened there?

He didn't score any goals. That's what happened.

In comment 16115914 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 16115913 Route 9 said: Quote: Auston Matthews 0 goals this series ... Pjcas18 what happened there? He didn't score any goals. That's what happened.

When does he sign with the Rangers?

I think Florida wins the ECF

Game 7 vibes gut check games edge of your seat blood knuckled games.

Or it will be so lopsided one way or the other it will tune out a generation of possible new hockey goers and old timers alike.

Pray for the former!

In comment 16115914 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 16115913 Route 9 said: Quote: Auston Matthews 0 goals this series ... Pjcas18 what happened there? He didn't score any goals. That's what happened.

What Brett said.

Also, seemed like he was more concerned with trying to match Tkachuk physically. And that is not Matthews game. He's big, but he's not Lemieux big and he doesn't play that way, so I think that took him off his offensive game a little. He played well other than on the scoresheet.

and overall, 11 points in 11 playoff games isn't a no-show.

Tavares is the real dog there IMO.

Lol I was making fun of the post game show asking that question

handshakes in SEA tonight.

SEA vs DAL @7PM DAL leads 3-2

is watching the world championships.

it's usually like a low budget Olympics but more teams. tons of teams participate, and you usually get a few recognizable names.

USA so far is 1-0, beat Finland 4-1

recognizable names on USA:

Casey DeSmith (G, PIT)
Nick Bonino (F, PIT)
Connor Garland (F, VAN)
Alex Tuch (F, BUF)


Some young guys
Cutter Gauthier (BC/PHI)
Lane Hutson (BU/MTL)
Sean Farrel (Harvard/MTL)
Carter Mazur (U Denver/DET)
Matt Coronato (Harvard/CAL)
Henry Thrun (Harvard/SJS)
Dylan Samberg (WIN)

has:

Mikko Rantanen
Olli Maatta
Joel Armia
Kaapo Kakko
Kasperi Kapanen

of the recognizable NHL names

In comment 16115977 pjcas18 said:

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handshakes in SEA tonight. SEA vs DAL @7PM DAL leads 3-2

I think Seattle ties

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In comment 16115977 pjcas18 said: Quote: handshakes in SEA tonight. SEA vs DAL @7PM DAL leads 3-2 I think Seattle ties

Hope so, we need a game 7, these playoffs have been terrible.

we got each other

One game tomorrow and they put it at 10pm. I hate this league.

opens the scoring with a greasy goal, 1-0 SEA.

Seguin to Marchment to tie it up like 5 seconds later

goal by SEA.

3-1

a goalie pulled.

4-1 SEA

yanked. I think he had to pull him, that last goal was soft, but now you pulled your goalie heading in to game 7 (if DAL doesn't come back).

It worked out for NJD I guess, just wouldn't make me confident.

did the one thing you can't do with a 3-goal lead....took a penalty.

Pavelski with the chest high tip to cut the lead to 2 (being reviewed for a high stick).

Just don't care about this series lol at all

Lol, it's playoff hockey but I kind of agree.

is just a boring team, I hate to say it.

other than Matt Beniers, who is way better than I thought he would be this soon, and IMO a better prospect than Owen Power. Side note: the talent Michigan is sending to the NHL is incredible, but it also shines a light on some of the prospect issues we see - Michigan hasn't exactly dominated the NCAA and they are littered with high 1st/early round picks recently:

Nazar (#13 overall '22)
McGroarty (#14 overall '22)
Casey (#46 overall '22)

Power (#1 overall '21)
Beniers (#2 overall '21)
Hughes (#4 overall '21)
Johnson (#5 overall '21)
Samoskevich (#24 overall '21)
Duke (#126 overall '21)
that '21 draft is insane for Michigan

Brisson (#29 overall '20 draft)
Bordeleau (#38 overall '20 draft)

I can go back more but basically I'd be switching Michigan teams - in fact a lot of these guys never played together since some went to the NHL after their freshman years.

Back to SEA they basically did what LVG did and have what I call 4 3rd lines, but in SEA case maybe 1 2nd line and 3 3rds. and really good D. Point is, no stars just blue collar players, and I guess it works since Vegas had success with it and now Seattle does too.

From a not-a-fan-of-the-team standpoint, it can be boring hockey.

In comment 16116123 BrettNYG10 said:

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One game tomorrow and they put it at 10pm. I hate this league.

Seriously. What were they thinking?

passed Crosby (71) for active players playoff goals, tied with Ovi for the lead at 72.

Ovi did it in almost 30 less games.

Crosby with the points lead by a lot (20) - with 201

Crosby is a couple years younger than both Ovi and Pavelski so he could wind up taking it back if the Pens can right the ship.

Kucherov (53 goals, 160 points) is really the only other active player threat. Maybe Pastrnak (35 goals and 79 points at his age)

for those who care about these kinds of things.

I had no idea Pavelski's record was that good.

Pens should trade Crosby.

In comment 16116572 BrettNYG10 said:

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I had no idea Pavelski's record was that good. Pens should trade Crosby.

We were just discussing him as a HOFer or not and his stats say no, but maybe his playoff performance helps. Still a no from me, but closer.

He needs a ring, IMO.

And one thing should also be clarified is it's the hockey hall of fame, not NHL HOF and he was on the US silver medal Olympic team, no prizes for 2nd place (well other than the silver medal) but that is the team who tied up the gold medal game in the final seconds (to lose in OT to Crosby/Canada).

Still a no from me, but I often overlook international play when I evaluate HOF or not.

Hungary 7-1 to remain unbeaten at the Worlds.

Nick Bonino had 2 goals.
Rocco Grimaldi had 3 points (1G/2A)
Cutter Gauthier had a goal
Lane Hutson had an assist
Luke Tuch had a goal.

Group A probably comes down to USA and Sweden, if they win the games they should.

USA has Germany (tomorrow 5/15), Austria (5/17), Denmark (5/20) France (5/21) then Sweden (5/23) to wrap up group play.

Sweden has (notable names)
Patrik Nemeth (ARI)
Par Lindholm (ex-NHLer)
Leo Carlsson ('23 draft eligible)
Lucas Raymond (DET)
Jesper Wallstedt (MIN)
Jakob Silfverberg (ANA)
Rasmus Sandin (WAS)
Alex Nylander (PIT)

and as teams get eliminated from the NHL playoffs, sometimes they join the worlds.

Likely going to be Vegas vs Seattle in the conference finals. Of course.