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Vegas gets a PP on that somehow.

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Wow. SH goal. Staal. Lol.

bother showing the penalty.

lot of chances, couple goals, hits, almost a line brawl

[And OT: there is no way, Igor notwithstanding, NYR as presently constituted, have what it takes to win the Cup]

Had same thought: was Hill going to get a game misconduct for swinging his stick at Cousins?

Hill

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by Theodore

and how did it happen?

a face off.

lol
Great reaction by Duclair
Really physical game
Wish I had watched the Bruins- Panthers series
Was Rat in tears in the Game 7 loss?

both ways

VGK started 28 v 14 faceoff wins
FLA has won 18 of 22 since

we're you aware of that twist on the high stick rule. Stone plucks it out of the air and wrists a shot upper right past Bob

vastly entertaining game

In comment 16127333 ColHowPepper said:

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we're you aware of that twist on the high stick rule. Stone plucks it out of the air and wrists a shot upper right past Bob

I wish they would get rid of all the high sticking/puck touching rules. If the concern is high sticking someone's face, there is already a penalty for that.

Vegas up in the series 1-0

In comment 16127333 ColHowPepper said:

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we're you aware of that twist on the high stick rule. Stone plucks it out of the air and wrists a shot upper right past Bob

I always thought it was crossbar, not shoulder, so I had no idea what they were talking about being shoulder standing straight up. Chara's shoulder is much higher than Caufield's (for example) so I thought they used crossbar so it wasn't subjective.

In comment 16127401 pjcas18 said:

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I always thought it was crossbar, not shoulder, so I had no idea what they were talking about being shoulder standing straight up. Chara's shoulder is much higher than Caufield's (for example) so I thought they used crossbar so it wasn't subjective.

The crossbar applies to deflections into the goal. The height of the shoulder applies to knocking the puck down and then playing it (whether by the guy who knocked it down or a teammate).

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In comment 16127401 pjcas18 said: Quote: I always thought it was crossbar, not shoulder, so I had no idea what they were talking about being shoulder standing straight up. Chara's shoulder is much higher than Caufield's (for example) so I thought they used crossbar so it wasn't subjective. The crossbar applies to deflections into the goal. The height of the shoulder applies to knocking the puck down and then playing it (whether by the guy who knocked it down or a teammate).

Yeah, I never realized it until last night. No idea why it should be different with playing a puck with a high stick or directing it into the net. Seems like it should be consistent.

that neither McCauley nor Rooney announced the slew of penalties at 15:36. I mean Tkachuk, Bennett, and Stephenson all drew game misconducts and roughing minors (Tkachuk x2), but no announcement was made. Not to mention that McCauley got right in the middle between Hague and Tkachuk while they and others were beating on anyone close--usually the refs let the linesmen take care of that, guess there was too much going on. No announcement of any kind, even after several minutes spent with the scorekeeper behind the glass to sort it out and explanations given to Maurice and Cassidy. Maurice was in surprisingly good humor in his PG, guess he had handicapped that his team would lose at least one of the opening two at Vegas.

Also, as I noted when I was having the conversations with myself last night during the 1st, thought Hill could easily have gotten a two for roughing in not a GM for whacking someone with his stick, if admittedly a half swing.

Hill started that whole melee and it wound up in a LVG power play. I think that happens a lot (the person who started it skates - no pun intended)

plus, goalies are treated kind of like QB's for the most part.

In comment 16127416 pjcas18 said:

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Yeah, I never realized it until last night. No idea why it should be different with playing a puck with a high stick or directing it into the net. Seems like it should be consistent.

From a competitive fairness standpoint, I think it makes sense for the goalie to have a fixed height they have to deal with for tip-ins, but for other plays to treat height like a natural advantage that players have the benefit of when playing the puck. Separate from that, from an enforcement standpoint, when a player's not near the net I think it's much easier to judge a high stick call against the player's body rather than having to try and visualize the cross-bar height compared to where the stick is.

That doesn't address Brett's point of why you need it in the first place. With helmets and visors mandatory, it seems like the precautionary nature of the rule is perhaps overkill.

on the high sticking--and have to disagree with Brett now that he's done me wrong on another thread. Case in point: last night's game was so fast, so physical, skaters now bigger and stronger (kind of why I made my [OT] at outset), I'm surprised there are not more stick injuries to the face and neck area. The masks come down to approximately the top of the cheekbone. There is ample room for a stick blade to get up in there and do damage, never mind the exposed areas of the face.

An imperfect analogy: I ref lacrosse, including women's: the only equipment they wear, are allowed to wear (other than keepers) are eye goggles. The rules are byzantine to protect their persons in the absence of equipment, compared to the boys' game. Head gear is prohibited (again, except for keepers) on the theory that if you start armoring the players up, it will invite more illegal stick to body/face contact.

I'd argue that if the rule against stick above the normalized shoulder were eliminated, it would send the wrong message (see above) and invite greater carelessness/volition, especially in games where a team is trying to 'send a message'. Maybe I'm a wuss, but I don't think rules to enhance player safety in a fast and violent sport are a bad thing. But I don't play in adult leagues like some of you guys.

I'm in agreement with the logic there.

I have never played without a cage, so I have a little bias here.

My view is that those types of plays are so rare that I'd rather do away with any subjective judgment by letting them do it.

I also think players are just so disciplined and good at this stuff that the increased risk of injury is minimal.

I'd also pucks be kicked in, punched in, etc.

And maybe you're right. I'd like to see them experiment with it in the lower leagues for a while.

especially players who are comfortable playing over the edge, never mind the Todd Bertuzzi-esque

with high sticking?

It's one penalty I like how they call it. I don't think it should be a 2/4 if you draw blood. it should only ever be a 2 unless you swing your stick with intent. which is hard to discern but not that hard. I don't like any judgment calls at all in any sport when they can be avoided which is why I suggest uniformity with the high stick playing a puck.

With the high stick penalty and the extra 2 I am a little surprised players have not started carrying razors or sharp objects in their gloves to cut themselves when the refs aren't looking like in wrestling. I'm positive some players already had cuts on their face and squeezed them when another stick comes up and it gets called so they can get the extra 2.

I also hate when people criticize a player for jerking their head back and say "the stick didn't even touch him" I have played with and without a cage and the reaction is 100% no different, a stick comes up toward your head, you move your head back as fast and violently as you can to avoid contact. Sometimes you even fall because you move your head and neck so fast to avoid contact. And then there is the millisecond after the incident when you take stock and feel your face and wonder "did it hit me"? Some players absolutely embellish it and that is unfortunate but overwhelmingly players do not, it's just a normal reaction.

Just curious what part of high sticking you think is overkill? Hitting the player with the high stick or the puck?

Damn. Just saw that save in the beginning of the second period. That was nuts lol

US9, almost lost about Hill's incredible save was that as the puck dribbled out from his stick toward the edge of the crease one of the Panthers had a good whack at it just sitting there and Petrangelo got his stick down just in time to block the shot which deflected harmlessly over the net. Had he not, Hill's save would have gone down as heroic but futile.

agree to 8 year extension with Caufield.

x 7.85M

In comment 16127872 ColHowPepper said:

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US9, almost lost about Hill's incredible save was that as the puck dribbled out from his stick toward the edge of the crease one of the Panthers had a good whack at it just sitting there and Petrangelo got his stick down just in time to block the shot which deflected harmlessly over the net. Had he not, Hill's save would have gone down as heroic but futile.

Prob. I watched the highlights so they probably cut out what you are talking about.

Florida looks so outmatched lol

Lol this one might be a sweep 😉

would be talking about Howden...(:

As game was winding down, TNT graphic'ed a stat that of 78 SC Finals (I'm sure the number is off was w/o glasses) with teams going up 2 - 0, the team up has won the Cup all but 3 times..ugh , not the Finals but you know who last 2 years

Yuck. This is the worst. A potential lopsided SCF heading into the dreadful long months of summer. Wake me up when September ... begins?

suck.

Draft in a month.

Best thing to happen last night was hearing Connor Bedard chirp Biz in the pre-game.

In comment 16128362 pjcas18 said:

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suck. Draft in a month. Best thing to happen last night was hearing Connor Bedard chirp Biz in the pre-game.

This is the worst NHL playoff year I've ever witnessed

fuck them

In comment 16128536 Jints in Carolina said:

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fuck them

Agreed. Also I was happy to see your Canes get smoked too after they beat the Devils lol.

In comment 16128589 Stu11 said:

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In comment 16128536 Jints in Carolina said: Quote: fuck them Agreed. Also I was happy to see your Canes get smoked too after they beat the Devils lol.

Ah the circle of life LOL

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would be talking about Howden...(:

Not really paying attention to this series. Two pretty nondescript teams.

Howden's having himself a nice playoffs, but he's still not particularly good. Just a mediocre player getting hot, a la John Druce.

hired by ANA.

1st time NHL head coach, so no "retread" and that makes sense IMO since ANA is rebuilding and should not be expected to win for a couple years.

I do love their some of their talent though. Zegras is a cornerstone player IMO. Drysdale, McTavish, Gaucher, Perreault, Pastujov, Zellweger, and more.

Plus add Fantilli and they have a 1C - maybe Zegras moves to wing or Fantilli is 2C to start.

A huge three-team NHL deal has just been completed, with the Columbus Blue Jackets reportedly acquiring defenseman Ivan Provorov from the Philadelphia Flyers.

The Los Angeles Kings would also be part of this monster trade. Defenseman Sean Walker and goaltender Cal Petersen (30% of retained salary) would head to Philadelphia.

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The Flyers are also working in a trade involving goalie Carter Hart. It’s not at the finish line, like the Provorov deal, but Philly is actively on it, as @ADiMarco25 has also reported.

a 1st in a deep draft plus 2 2nds for Provorov?

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In the Ivan Provorov deal, the Flyers get Sean Walker, Cal Petersen, the 22nd overall pick this summer, a second-rounder from LA and a conditional second-round draft pick in either 2024 or 2025 from the Blue Jackets.

Not a bad bit of business from Keith and Danny.

In comment 16128729 pjcas18 said:

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David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod · Follow The Flyers are also working in a trade involving goalie Carter Hart. It’s not at the finish line, like the Provorov deal, but Philly is actively on it, as @ADiMarco25 has also reported.

Tom Fitzgerald should be going hard for him.