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New York Giants 2nd Round Selection: OC John Michael Schmitz

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/28/2023 8:51 pm
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from bob mcginn's scouts  
Eric on Li : 4/28/2023 8:52 pm : link
hopefully a 10 year o'hara that starts from day 1.

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1. JOHN MICHAEL SCHMITZ, Minnesota (6-3 ½, 303, 5.31, 2): Sixth-year senior. “I have him ahead of Tippmann,” one scout said. “He’s my best center. Has a wrestling background. Very tough. Big and physical. He reminded me some of that kid that came out of Wisconsin, Travis Frederick. Has some athletic limitations but I think he can fit in both a gap and a zone scheme. He’s a good enough athlete. He’s played a lot of football. He’s a plug-and-play, Day 1 starter.” After redshirting in 2017, seldom getting on the field in ’18 and starting four games in ’19, he started all 31 games at center from 2020-’22. “Plays on his feet, works to finish, solid in the run game and pass pro,” a second scout said. “It wouldn’t surprise me if he starts right away. He has guard flex potentially, which is a big thing.” Wonderlic of 22. “More fun to watch than he is talented,” a third scout said. “We have him later in the draft. Center only. He’s stiff and bends at the waist. Balance and body control are an issue. He’s on the ground too much. Now, he is a prick. He’ll try to kill you on every play. But plays out of control.” Arms were 32 5/8, hands were 9 ½. “Heart and hustle,” said a fourth scout. “Gets in the way but nothing overly athletic about him. Just a smart, tough, heady player. He’ll start.” From Flossmoor, Ill.
It’s nice  
Saquon'sQuadz : 4/28/2023 8:52 pm : link
To have management that gets it.
That's crazy!  
Anakim : 4/28/2023 8:52 pm : link
His name is my name too!
Love it  
TommyWiseau : 4/28/2023 8:53 pm : link
Some higher rated players but this fit a need
RE: That's crazy!  
rnargi : 4/28/2023 8:53 pm : link
In comment 16101634 Anakim said:
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His name is my name too!


Lol!
Okay  
OBJRoyal : 4/28/2023 8:53 pm : link
Upgrade that middle
Yeah baby  
jeff57 : 4/28/2023 8:53 pm : link
Great pick.
Yes!!!!!  
No1MDGiantsFan : 4/28/2023 8:53 pm : link
They got their guy without trading up!
Alright, we got our starting C for the next 10 years  
Anakim : 4/28/2023 8:53 pm : link
Our O-Line is ready to roll!
RE: That's crazy!  
j_rud : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
In comment 16101634 Anakim said:
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His name is my name too!


Well done lol
I think this pick made perfect sense coming into the draft  
Chris684 : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
And makes even more sense after what Philly and Dallas did last night.
I will never complain  
Mattman : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
About building the trenches
Welcome home sonny boy  
ghost718 : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
Have a medium Pepsi
Dabs breaking out the stogie  
rnargi : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
In the draft room,
Don’t like it  
Sammo85 : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
Not a fan of the player.
Tough, big, and physical  
Tim in JTown : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
I'm down.
Pro Bowler  
Mark from Jersey : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
And 10 year starter for us. Love the pick.
Fuck. Yeah.  
KerrysFlask : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
Love it.
Also  
j_rud : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
A starting center! Hell yes! I love this front office.
Great pick!  
Giant John : 4/28/2023 8:54 pm : link
Happy with that.
Elated  
Big Blue '56 : 4/28/2023 8:55 pm : link
to get an actual C..Obviously the Giants weren’t all in on their C conversions
Thought they might go O'Cyrus Torrence  
David B. : 4/28/2023 8:55 pm : link
And cross train him at OC.
But as long as the got an OL, I'm happy.

RE: That's crazy!  
Crispino : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
In comment 16101634 Anakim said:
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His name is my name too!


Nice Anak! Well done!😀
I never have a problem with taking an o-lineman.  
St. Jimmy : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
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Have to love a player  
RCPhoenix : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
When his family rescues dogs.

Oh - and he looks like a good C too.
 
ryanmkeane : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
Trade back in for a WR and man, this would be awesome
Those comments from scouts were  
Bill in UT : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
pretty mixed. But I assume our OL coach spent some time with him.
Works for me  
UConn4523 : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
if it ends the shit we’ve put out at center for years it’ll be worth it
Faith in Schoen  
US1 Giants : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
so I won't complain.
He was consistently mocked to the Giants in the first.  
bwitz : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
Glad they got him in the second.
Love this pick  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/28/2023 8:56 pm : link
!
RE: That's crazy!  
Jim in Fairfax : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
In comment 16101634 Anakim said:
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His name is my name too!

Ha! I was trying to come up with that myself but it wasn’t clicking!
has a little buyer beware to his name  
Giantsfan79 : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
if he plays bad, it's pretty obvious what the chant against him will be.
There was a full write up about Bobby Johnson meeting Schmitz  
cosmicj : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
In a press outlet.
WOOT!  
Spider43 : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
Schoen for president!
Let’s go!  
Chris684 : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
AT-Ezeudu-JMS-Glow-Neal
We had to take a Center here and he is a good one.  
Amtoft : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
John Michael jingle hingleheimer Schmitz... this is his name too.
Weird to guess what the picks will be and actually be correct  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/28/2023 8:57 pm : link
about Banks and Schmitz.
Somewhere  
Bill in UT : 4/28/2023 8:58 pm : link
Jimmy Googs is smiling
I do not like this pick. Remote thrower  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 4/28/2023 8:58 pm : link
I think Schmitz could have been had in 3rd rd
Daboll looked pretty happy in the war room  
dpinzow : 4/28/2023 8:58 pm : link
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Welcome to New York  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/28/2023 8:58 pm : link
John!
Man April is amazing for sports.  
thefan : 4/28/2023 8:59 pm : link
Right as 2nd period ends in the Isles game, giants are ready to pick. I bet I get to flip to their next pick right after the game, then switch over to the Yanks, jerk off and go to bed.

Center, we needed that. I nothing about these guys but I wanted IOL or WR in round 2. Lets go.
A little early for Sy:  
lawguy9801 : 4/28/2023 8:59 pm : link
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Grade: 78

NFL Comparison: Ted Karras / CIN

Sixth year senior. Four-year starter from Flossmoor, IL. Named All-Big Ten three straight years including a first team honor in 2022. Also named a first team All-American in his final season. Schmitz is the point guard of the offensive line, fully capable of making all the calls and directing traffic. He does all the little things right and it adds up to consistent, reliable play. He excels in the running game with his combination of heavy contact and excellent footwork. While he is not the most natural athlete, he makes up for a lot of the shortcomings with proper angles, spacing, and timing. He has a great feel for when to peel off to the next man and his hands do a lot of damage. The shortcomings as a pass blocker on an island and occasional lapse in body control can cause some concern, but the floor is high for Schmitz. Schmitz has the mental capacity and reliable run blocking to fit into any situation right away and compete for a starting job, but this is a low ceiling, high-floor kind of player.

*Want a plug and play center that will immediately become the mental leader of your line? Schmitz is your guy. Want a high-upside athlete that is going to eventually be one of the top players at the position in the league? Look elsewhere. Schmitz is a classic “is what he is” type prospect. You know what you are getting, you know what you are not. One negative I could see NYG having on him is the fact he never played a position other than center. In addition, the already-24 year-old simply lacks more area to chew up on the progression curve. Will he likely provide the best OC play this team has had since…O’Hara? Probably. The question is about positional value, and everyone has an opinion on that. I like Schmitz, as do many in the league. But he only becomes an option for me in round 3, and I think he is gone by then.
I really like this  
Chef : 4/28/2023 8:59 pm : link
and was laughing at people saying he would be a 3rd round pic...
RE: I do not like this pick. Remote thrower  
thefan : 4/28/2023 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16101697 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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I think Schmitz could have been had in 3rd rd


remote thrower?
I didn’t want a center but if you’re taking one here,  
81_Great_Dane : 4/28/2023 9:00 pm : link
he’s the guy. Fills a need. Safe pick in the sense that he’s a known quantity and he ticks the “smart” and “tough” boxes. Should be an upgrade over what the Giants had at C last season.
Good  
AcidTest : 4/28/2023 9:00 pm : link
player but he's probably already reached his ceiling. Would have preferred to go in a different direction and take Stromberg in the third. My guess is that the Giants never thought he'd be available at #57, and he was just too much value to pass up.
RE: I do not like this pick. Remote thrower  
ElitoCanton : 4/28/2023 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16101697 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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I think Schmitz could have been had in 3rd rd


No he couldn't. He was a top 50 player on Jeremiah's board. He knows more than you. A lot more.
Walter Football  
jeff57 : 4/28/2023 9:00 pm : link
New York Giants: John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota - A Grade

I'm shocked the Giants didn't draft a receiver, given their huge need at the position. Then again, they also had a huge need at center, and John Michael Schmitz is someone who could have been drafted 15-20 picks earlier than this. I love the value and need fill.
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