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Chris Johnson slams reporters for Hyatt route tree questions

BSIMatt : 5/9/2023 10:01 am
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When Hyatt faced those same questions on Monday, former NFL receiver and 4-time All-Pro selection Chad Johnson came to his defense.

“These questions are insulting and outright dumb,” Johnson wrote on Twitter. “He’s a receiver with the ability to run every route if you (expletive) actually watched him play. Can someone get me the names of these so-called reporters who obviously didn’t do their got damn [sic] homework please?”

NFL legend slams reporters for 'insulting' questions about Jalin Hyatt's route tree - ( New Window )
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RE: RE: RE: Just because he wasn't asked to do it.....doesn't mean  
RicFlair : 5/9/2023 5:20 pm : link
In comment 16112638 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 16112615 RicFlair said:


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In comment 16112604 George from PA said:


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He can't.

What he does show....an ability to run past everyone




It also doesn’t mean he can.


And what would be your reasoning for him not being able to run routes? Do you think he’s an idiot? Unable to walk and chew gum at the same time? Why would you think he may not be able to?




You act as if he would be the first WR to have that problem.
Which college WRs  
mittenedman : 5/9/2023 5:22 pm : link
are running full NFL route trees?

Most of these college offenses look almost Pop Warner at times.

Yet it’s Jalin Hyatt that gets singled out.

Hopefully, we got a steal.
The real issue also gets lost in the sauce.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/9/2023 5:40 pm : link
It's not that he doesn't possess the mental acuity or football experience to run routes.

It's his technique at running routes. How well it's done. This is not something that's understood by most.

If you understand what it means when a receiver "rounds off" his routes or doesn't run "sharp" routes, then you get it.
Sometimes you're supposed to round it...  
Brown_Hornet : 5/9/2023 6:29 pm : link
... Sometimes you're supposed to stick it.

RE: The real issue also gets lost in the sauce.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/9/2023 7:49 pm : link
In comment 16112989 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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It's not that he doesn't possess the mental acuity or football experience to run routes.

It's his technique at running routes. How well it's done. This is not something that's understood by most.

If you understand what it means when a receiver "rounds off" his routes or doesn't run "sharp" routes, then you get it.


The Giants obviously like what they see in him or, at the very least, believe they can work with his skillset and make him (hopefully) productive in the system
Maybe it's not whether he can run routes, but how well will he run  
Ira : 5/9/2023 8:08 pm : link
them. He hasn't shown his route running skills in college, but he wasn't asked to. So the truth is we just don't know how well he'll run routes. But the bottom line is that he's Darius Slayton + even more speed + good hands. And just that is worth his draft pick with the trade up. If, in addition, he does become a skillful route runner, he could turn out to be the best or one of the best receivers in this draft class.
RE: RE: 3 straight questions on it  
AcesUp : 5/9/2023 8:17 pm : link
In comment 16112961 ColHowPepper said:
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...In terms of year 1 impact, his ability to beat press will influence his snaps much more than being a polished route runner. If he can get off the press then he's really just competing with Slayton and Hodgins for snaps instead of the glut of move pieces we have at WR, TE and RB....

Agree this except the Hodgins part. Kafka will scheme them quite differently. But the press coverage, yes indeed, stay tuned.


I wasn’t necessarily referring to his usage but more about alignment. If he can beat press then we don’t have to motion or stack him to get a free release. If you have to do that then he’s fighting a crowded group of skill guys for snapshare.
RE: Just because he was not asked to run a route tree in college  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/9/2023 8:58 pm : link
In comment 16112669 Essex said:
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doesn't mean he can't run a route tree. There is no logic in that.

But, the fact that he did not adds a greater unknown about him as a prospect. Hence, he went in the third round instead of in the first or second round, where his natural ability might have gotten him into if there was a more complete picture.

This is not complicated stuff. The surer the thing, the higher the pick. This is a risk pick because you don't have as much info on him.




Um. No. Teams make educated guesses. And depending upon the GM and scouting draft success can fluctuate wildly. Your statement is just wrong and a vast over simplification. It is complicated or teams alike never miss on early picks.
I hope this kid  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/10/2023 1:07 am : link
Makes them all eat their words
RE: It is somewhat shocking how old this route-tree story feels  
bluefin : 5/10/2023 6:53 am : link
In comment 16112737 ThomasG said:
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already and its only been about a week or so.

it’s so tedious, every Hyatt article parroting “routetreeroutetreeroutetree” - thumbs up to 85
If he was a 1st rounder I get the line of questioning  
Rudy5757 : 5/10/2023 11:24 am : link
As a 3rd round pick this was a great draft pick. He has the abilities of a 1st rounder, it just needs development and refinement. The biggest thing he has is explosion off the ball and he tracks and catches the ball well. The coaches have the tools to work with.

If he was a lot more refined he would have been a #1. Remember the production we got out of Slayton year 1? That’s what you can expect for Hyatt. He will be the big play guy. When he is on the field the safeties have to pay attention. It should make them a half step slower to respond to other things because before you know it he is behind you.

He has what you can’t teach, elite speed. Whether he becomes a star or not is dependent on how hard he works to refine his game. At this point if he is #1 or #2 Wr he won’t shine. But as the 3 or 4 guy he will probably be a 15-18 upcoming guy. This coaching staff will game plan him open. This teams off-season was all about adding speed. If Saquon is back which I don’t think is a given we will much better on O
When you are as athletic as Hyatt, quick and fast, then  
PatersonPlank : 5/10/2023 11:35 am : link
this only comes down to attention to detail and "playing" each down. Once the coaches show him what they want, then its just his desire and work ethic to drill it in. With his athletic ability if he runs sharp routes he will get open.

Routes get rounded when someone hasn't been taught, or when a player is just lazy. Maybe they know the ball isn't coming to them so they don't put in the effort to sharpen the route on the play, etc.

Now its also possible that a player who isn't quick can't get open even when running a good route (think Ramses Barden and others). Well this is a worst problem and that player isn't long for the NFL
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