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A' Shawn Robinson and Rakeem Nunez-Roches

gidiefor : Mod : 5/11/2023 6:15 pm
Man I've been looking at tape of these two, and they can really make a difference on the the Giants Defense

In fact if you look up and down the Defense with adding LB Bobby Okereke, CB Amani Oruwariye, DT A' Shawn Robinson and DT Rakeem Nunez-Roches the Giants have really strengthened their defense for the coming season

I'm really looking forward to seeing what these guys can do
especially when Andre Patterson gets his hands on A' Shawn Robinson and Rakeem Nunez-Roches

I don't think it's going to be easy to run on the Giants this year
Adding a 3rd DL was critical  
Jay on the Island : 5/11/2023 6:31 pm : link
As the season progressed the Giants defense was exposed due to the lack of depth along the DL and the poor ILB play. Now Robinson, Nacho, and DJ Davidson are back to provide much needed depth to the DL.

looking forward to it  
Payasdaddy : 5/11/2023 6:47 pm : link
think LEO will be a much better player playing 70% of snaps
Dex played like 90% last yr him getting an xtra 6-8 snaps off per game will really help

plus nacho and ashawn both legit pro's hopefully ashawn can play some 5T ojulari would be much better in mostly pass rush downs
I think DJ davidson may be able to add a handfull of quality snaps too
these guys are a SERIOUS  
fish3321 : 5/11/2023 6:56 pm : link
upgrade

we still need a 3rd DE pass rusher. Cant rely on Kayvon and Azeez only
The effect will be trickle down.  
j_rud : 5/11/2023 7:12 pm : link
They are legit depth capable of holding a spot down in a pinch. But they're also going to allow Dex and Williams to get more of a breather than they could last year. Fresh legs in the 4th quarter.
This DL is the strongest position group on the team  
gersh : 5/11/2023 7:17 pm : link
And will allow Thibs and Ojulari to get to the QB
Ssssshhhhh  
UberAlias : 5/11/2023 7:39 pm : link
Don’t tell anyone.
I'm a little surprised  
Jay on the Island : 5/11/2023 7:52 pm : link
that they didn't bring back Nick Williams. He was playing well before going on IR. I assumed they would re-sign him to be a reserve.
RE: I'm a little surprised  
barens : 5/11/2023 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16114925 Jay on the Island said:
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that they didn't bring back Nick Williams. He was playing well before going on IR. I assumed they would re-sign him to be a reserve.


Yeah, not surprising the run defense looked weaker without him. But I like what they did regardless.
Adding A'Shawn is huge  
Chris L. : 5/11/2023 9:00 pm : link
we all saw how much it hurt when Tomlinson was removed from the equation. Three big guys makes it tough on the OL. They only have so many bodies to go around. Thibs and Ojilari are going to get one on ones and I like our chances on those. DL is much better ML is better and CB is better. Defense has a chance to be really good.
I agree, giddy -  
Del Shofner : 5/11/2023 9:44 pm : link
plus Banks at CB, Beavers returning ... I also think our late round CB and S will have a chance to contribute.
Upgrading the rim defense  
UberAlias : 5/12/2023 4:07 am : link
On D was a massive priority this off-season.
The FA acquisitions were great.  
Klaatu : 5/12/2023 6:07 am : link
But what I'm most interested in is the further development of their second and third year players, on both sides of the ball.
Regardless of how you break down the roster and schemes, the  
Spider56 : 5/12/2023 8:10 am : link
success of the team really comes down to health and the development of Neal. As these 2 go, so will go the fortunes of the team.
I do hope they add a vet EDGE  
Jim in Forest Hills : 5/12/2023 9:04 am : link
but yes, want to see what the new run defe looks like. The run D was ok when Nick Williams and DJ were out there but once it got to Ellis and Mondaeux, it got ugly.
There are still some vets out there  
gersh : 5/12/2023 10:54 am : link
You know Schoen is not going to leave any stone unturned.
But for the first time in a very long time - our roster has decent to good starters and some depth. We could upgrade on some spots - but we are not shopping hungry anymore.
RE: Adding A'Shawn is huge  
Toth029 : 5/12/2023 12:41 pm : link
In comment 16114980 Chris L. said:
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we all saw how much it hurt when Tomlinson was removed from the equation. Three big guys makes it tough on the OL. They only have so many bodies to go around. Thibs and Ojilari are going to get one on ones and I like our chances on those. DL is much better ML is better and CB is better. Defense has a chance to be really good.


Losing Tomlinson was fine. Losing Blake Martinez was not. Not anyone's fault but this is what became the downfall of the run defense on an overall basis.
RE: I do hope they add a vet EDGE  
Angel Eyes : 5/12/2023 4:48 pm : link
In comment 16115163 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but yes, want to see what the new run defe looks like. The run D was ok when Nick Williams and DJ were out there but once it got to Ellis and Mondaeux, it got ugly.

Who needs an EDGE when we have Wink to scheme it? ;)
RE: I do hope they add a vet EDGE  
Klaatu : 5/13/2023 9:51 am : link
In comment 16115163 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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but yes, want to see what the new run defe looks like. The run D was ok when Nick Williams and DJ were out there but once it got to Ellis and Mondaeux, it got ugly.


The good UFA Edges, 30 and under, are priced way too high for the Giants. Maybe the market resets over the Summer. We'll see. They might go for an older vet, a guy like Justin Houston, on a cheaper one-year deal, but I think they'd like to see someone already on the roster emerge and seize that third Edge spot with both hands. Stranger things have happened.
RE: RE: I do hope they add a vet EDGE  
Angel Eyes : 5/14/2023 9:23 am : link
In comment 16116003 Klaatu said:
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In comment 16115163 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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but yes, want to see what the new run defe looks like. The run D was ok when Nick Williams and DJ were out there but once it got to Ellis and Mondaeux, it got ugly.



The good UFA Edges, 30 and under, are priced way too high for the Giants. Maybe the market resets over the Summer. We'll see. They might go for an older vet, a guy like Justin Houston, on a cheaper one-year deal, but I think they'd like to see someone already on the roster emerge and seize that third Edge spot with both hands. Stranger things have happened.

I don't really trust Ximines to be a good option at the third edge spot myself. Even so it's pretty thin pickings.
RE: RE: RE: I do hope they add a vet EDGE  
Klaatu : 5/14/2023 10:02 am : link
In comment 16116465 Angel Eyes said:
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In comment 16115163 Jim in Forest Hills said:


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but yes, want to see what the new run defe looks like. The run D was ok when Nick Williams and DJ were out there but once it got to Ellis and Mondaeux, it got ugly.



The good UFA Edges, 30 and under, are priced way too high for the Giants. Maybe the market resets over the Summer. We'll see. They might go for an older vet, a guy like Justin Houston, on a cheaper one-year deal, but I think they'd like to see someone already on the roster emerge and seize that third Edge spot with both hands. Stranger things have happened.


I don't really trust Ximines to be a good option at the third edge spot myself. Even so it's pretty thin pickings.


Clearly, the Giants prioritized bolstering their run defense as well as their secondary this offseason, much more than finding a third Edge, which seems to be put on the back-burner until next year. Pray that Thibs and Ojulari stay healthy.
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