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NGT: Obvious NFC East Scheduling Failure

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2023 9:26 am
How does the NFL not schedule an Eagles-Cowboys game in the last four games of the season?
What’s the importance of week 4?  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2023 9:29 am : link
from a ratings perspective people will watch anything in September after craving football for so long.
Pfff, nevermind  
UConn4523 : 5/14/2023 9:30 am : link
though you said first four. Yeah that’s a head scratcher.
Clearly…  
Chris in Philly : 5/14/2023 9:54 am : link
the script this year is for Dallas to fall back and be irrelevant and the division to come down to us and the evil empire. Let’s go get it!
RE: Clearly…  
j_rud : 5/14/2023 10:01 am : link
In comment 16116479 Chris in Philly said:
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the script this year is for Dallas to fall back and be irrelevant and the division to come down to us and the evil empire. Let’s go get it!


It really does feel like that, doesn't it?
Many feel McCarthy is a fraud....I do.  
George from PA : 5/14/2023 10:11 am : link
Firing the OC was a desperate move to save his hide, imo.
RE: RE: Clearly…  
Klaatu : 5/14/2023 10:13 am : link
In comment 16116486 j_rud said:
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In comment 16116479 Chris in Philly said:


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the script this year is for Dallas to fall back and be irrelevant and the division to come down to us and the evil empire. Let’s go get it!



It really does feel like that, doesn't it?


As long as the Giants are still relevant in December, it's a much better story.
I think Giants-Eagles  
HBart : 5/14/2023 10:51 am : link
2 games in 13 days is a failure also, especially to end the season. Conference games should be spaced out to spread out injury impact (independent of which 2 teams are playing).

It is good for the league because it maximizes the chance that the Eagles play to win the last game regardless.
Last four games of season should be  
MarvelousMike : 5/14/2023 11:21 am : link
divisional games for 3 of 4. Period!
They seem to have too many playoff teams that are non-divisional play then and then have possible rematch in the playoffs.
Not defending it but I can't even imagine  
oghwga : 5/14/2023 11:33 am : link
How complex it must be to lay out a schedule and consider every team. It must be a herculean task when you have to deal with stadium use conflicts, travel, weather considerations, travel, tv schedules etc. It's a miracle it works at all
Here’s a thought  
Paul326 : 5/14/2023 11:46 am : link
Maybe the schedule maker’s should start with the last month of the season where everyone is playing divisional games then figure the rest of season from there.
RE: I think Giants-Eagles  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/14/2023 11:57 am : link
In comment 16116514 HBart said:
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2 games in 13 days is a failure also, especially to end the season. Conference games should be spaced out to spread out injury impact (independent of which 2 teams are playing).

It is good for the league because it maximizes the chance that the Eagles play to win the last game regardless.


I agree. It's too close.
At least that final  
JFIB : 5/14/2023 1:30 pm : link
Game against the Eagles is at home.
Maybe thinking they’ll  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 5/14/2023 2:16 pm : link
Play first round of playoffs?
RE: Last four games of season should be  
Joe Beckwith : 5/14/2023 2:49 pm : link
In comment 16116530 MarvelousMike said:
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divisional games for 3 of 4. Period!
They seem to have too many playoff teams that are non-divisional play then and then have possible rematch in the playoffs.


+1.
Even though DC has been semi irrelevant for awhile, they always give Dallas a hard time / upset them the second game, play Philly tough, and give us all we can handle.
I’m thinking Dan Quinn will be the coach of the ‘Girls by Thanksgiving  
Spider56 : 5/14/2023 2:53 pm : link
at the latest. Jerry and McCarthy deserve each other.

In fairness though, I think the focus of the league’s decision makers (ie the network executives) is on the AFC where you now have the best QBs … Mahomes, Herbert, Wilson, Burrows, Jackson, Watson, Rogers, Allen, Tua and even 3 of the top 4 rookie QBs … Stroud, Richardson and Levis.
While the concept of everyone playing  
Dankbeerman : 5/14/2023 4:16 pm : link
a division game week 18 sounds good I feel they are only important to 1 team too often.

Would Rather the NFl make you play your whole division the first 3 weeks of December/or 1st 3 weeks after all byes are done.

Think the impact of 3 in a row would be awesome.
Playing the eagles twice in three weeks  
mattnyg05 : 5/14/2023 4:48 pm : link
(When the final game could mean nothing for one or both teams) is also ridiculous.

It’s like they did this schedule using Madden 2005. Actually, that’s a disservice to madden 2005. The schedule blows.
I take it as  
mattlawson : 5/14/2023 9:30 pm : link
They think the Giants will be more competive
It's like the NFL views  
Giantfan in skinland : 5/14/2023 10:58 pm : link
2 matchups vs. a common divisional opponent in 3 games as a feature, not a bug. Seems to be built into several teams' schedules each year.

I don't get it/think it's super stupid. I just can't believe it's unavoidable and certainly can't figure out why the NFL seems to prefer it.
RE: Not defending it but I can't even imagine  
markky : 5/15/2023 6:49 am : link
In comment 16116536 oghwga said:
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How complex it must be to lay out a schedule and consider every team. It must be a herculean task when you have to deal with stadium use conflicts, travel, weather considerations, travel, tv schedules etc. It's a miracle it works at all


i read an article about 30 years ago that (at that time) it was done by hand by some married couple from Staten Island. The task is complicated by the availability of the stadiums - some were used by other teams, like the L.A. Coliseum.
......  
Route 9 : 5/15/2023 10:20 am : link
I see the Giants are playing Green Bay on MNF and there is an ABC logo. I did not know MNF was back on the ABC channel.
The Ravens  
Costy16 : 5/15/2023 1:30 pm : link
Three of their first four are against the AFC North.

Then they play Browns/Bengals back to back in November and don't play another division game until the Week 18 finale against Pittsburgh.

RE: ......  
Scyber : 5/15/2023 8:50 pm : link
In comment 16116934 Route 9 said:
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I see the Giants are playing Green Bay on MNF and there is an ABC logo. I did not know MNF was back on the ABC channel.


ESPN and ABC are both owned by Disney. It will be simulcast on ABC weeks 1, 3, 15 and 17.
RE: RE: I think Giants-Eagles  
Matt M. : 5/15/2023 11:31 pm : link
In comment 16116547 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16116514 HBart said:


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2 games in 13 days is a failure also, especially to end the season. Conference games should be spaced out to spread out injury impact (independent of which 2 teams are playing).

It is good for the league because it maximizes the chance that the Eagles play to win the last game regardless.



I agree. It's too close.
This, plus one of the hardest schedules.
RE: RE: Clearly…  
bradshaw44 : 5/15/2023 11:52 pm : link
In comment 16116486 j_rud said:
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In comment 16116479 Chris in Philly said:


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the script this year is for Dallas to fall back and be irrelevant and the division to come down to us and the evil empire. Let’s go get it!



It really does feel like that, doesn't it?


Not sure if you saw the Jaguars schedule release video, but it was about this very topic. And although it was hyperbole, it almost felt like they were rubbing it in our faces that it is fake but there is nothing we can do about it without sounding like conspiracy nuts.

You see, not every play needs to be scripted, just the outcome…
RE: RE: ......  
Route 9 : 5/16/2023 10:18 am : link
In comment 16117369 Scyber said:
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ESPN and ABC are both owned by Disney. It will be simulcast on ABC weeks 1, 3, 15 and 17.


Ya everyone knows the Disney thing. I haven't watched a MNF game on ABC in 18 years lol just weird to see it again.
I've been a Giant fan since 79'  
x meadowlander : 5/16/2023 11:40 am : link
This is hands-down the worst schedule they've ever had. It's hard to believe it isn't intentional. Did someone lose a bet or something? They took every scenario the Giants have a hard time winning and distilled it into one nightmare schedule. Opener against Dallas - 5 night games. Closing out 2 of the last 3 against Philly?!

I swear, if they could bring back the 85' Bears, they'd have added them to this schedule.

It's ludicrous.
RE: Not defending it but I can't even imagine  
Brick72 : 5/16/2023 10:19 pm : link
In comment 16116536 oghwga said:
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How complex it must be to lay out a schedule and consider every team. It must be a herculean task when you have to deal with stadium use conflicts, travel, weather considerations, travel, tv schedules etc. It's a miracle it works at all
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How complex it must be to lay out a schedule and consider every team. It must be a herculean task when you have to deal with stadium use conflicts, travel, weather considerations, travel, tv schedules etc. It's a miracle it works at all
It's not a herculean task. Sorry, as CPA for 40 years, I can tell you that although it's not easy, it's not really hard to make the permutations work. 36 teams are not a super difficult task to program with equality factors built in. We're in 2023, with some of the most impressive algorithms and AI any of us have ever seem. Folks need to understand, there is simply NO WAY that your program schedules 7 away games for a team at the beginning of a season, plus two games against the division leader at the end of the season and the schedule reviewers don't go in and fix that foolishness. No way! If I'm on the NFL programming board and I see this I say let's go back and fix this. To even think that this outcome is mathematically acceptable is ludicrous.
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