Mets Lineup
Nimmo CF
Lindor SS
McNeil 2B
Alonso 1B
Pham DH
Marte RF
Baty 3B
Canha LF
Alvarez C
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Verlander P
Rays Lineup
Ramirez 1B
Franco SS
B. Lowe 2B
Arozarena LF
Paredes 3B
J. Lowe DH
Margot RF
Bethancourt C
Siri CF
Beeks SP
We are facing another lefty. Yuck. David Peterson down. Josh Walker up (added to 40). Verlander's home debut. LGM!
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With Mark Vientos on the way, the Mets' focus now turns to Gary Sanchez:
"A Sanchez-for-Michael Pérez swap would be a logical move this week, and the team is weighing it carefully."
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With Mark Vientos on the way, the Mets' focus now turns to Gary Sanchez:
"A Sanchez-for-Michael Pérez swap would be a logical move this week, and the team is weighing it carefully."
With Narvaez coming back, how does that make sense? Don't you just keep Perez to backup Alvarez until Narvaez or Nido is back, then DFA him (I assume Perez is out of options).
Vientos at DH
Baty at 3rd
Alvarez behind the dish
And so on and so on.
It’s looking more and more like the plan under Eppler was to pay for arms since the system was more rich with positional talent. Scherzer is now backfiring, letting deGrom go while unpopular, was the wise move, and who knows what we have in Verlander at this point. Hasn’t helped that Bassitt flamed out, Carrasco is shot and Quintana is injured.
I think they need a shake up.
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With Mark Vientos on the way, the Mets' focus now turns to Gary Sanchez:
"A Sanchez-for-Michael Pérez swap would be a logical move this week, and the team is weighing it carefully."
With Narvaez coming back, how does that make sense? Don't you just keep Perez to backup Alvarez until Narvaez or Nido is back, then DFA him (I assume Perez is out of options).
Perez has an option left
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My greater point was why bring up Sanchez? Both Nido and Narvaez are due back soon. Why not just keep Sanchez down until you really need him?
Unless they plan to go 3 catchers, or have Sanchez DH a lot (stupid plan), I don't get it. Go Narvaez and Alvarez in the majors, Sanchez in AAA, and keep Nido on DL until you have to make a decision. I don't see Sanchez getting called up. Keep Perez until then.
That makes sense if they do. And yes, there will be quite the logjam if Sanchez is brough up. Alvarez, Sanchez, Narvaez, and Nido. And damnit, they better not send down Alvarez
He does not.
calf strains also highly recurrent, would make sense to take it slow with him if they have other options playing well.
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also don't believe Narvaez will be back so soon, sounds like he's 3ish weeks away.
calf strains also highly recurrent, would make sense to take it slow with him if they have other options playing well.
Buck said they expect him to begin rehab games next week, as catchers need days off his rehab assignment is probably going to take longer than say a SS. I'd be very surprised if he's back before the second week of June (5-11)
his 16 homers last year are more than nido's entire career. his 659 ops was also better than any year of nido's career. narvaez is going to have missed half a year, who knows what he'll be when he gets back. this is a pretty contingency plan to explore for the next month.
Narvaez is beginning rehab next week, so 2-3 weeks sounds right. Nido's IL placement was retroactive to May 6, and Buck said he was expected to be back as soon as eligible.
Maybe they do change course, IL Nido longer, and give Sanchez a shot (he arguably has more upside than Nido due to his bat)
pitching prospects you not only need to hope you pick the right guys in terms of talent, you need to hope they also stay healthy for 2-4 years of development before they even get to the big leagues.
that combination seems so low probability.
Missed this. That would explain it. Might be worth a shot. I like having a defensive guy as backup C, but Nido is absolutely worthless as a hitter, and has not been good throwing out runners. Things don't look good for Nido's future as a Met
pitching prospects you not only need to hope you pick the right guys in terms of talent, you need to hope they also stay healthy for 2-4 years of development before they even get to the big leagues.
that combination seems so low probability.
That's what I hope they do this year in the draft. 7 picks in the 1st 4 rounds. If a hitter drops in the 1st or 2nd that you like, fine. But I'd like to see them draft 5 pitchers in first 4 rounds.
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maybe this is just recency bias but going for a bunch of guys like vasil, ziegler, hamel, etc seems like the way to go. hope 1-2 work out and spend on pitchers in FA while producing position players.
pitching prospects you not only need to hope you pick the right guys in terms of talent, you need to hope they also stay healthy for 2-4 years of development before they even get to the big leagues.
that combination seems so low probability.
That's what I hope they do this year in the draft. 7 picks in the 1st 4 rounds. If a hitter drops in the 1st or 2nd that you like, fine. But I'd like to see them draft 5 pitchers in first 4 rounds.
first round id almost always go hitter unless some totally unexpected pitcher falls.
then with the other 6 picks i'd try to go overslot on a few pitchers (and underslot wherever necessary to pay for it).
So Senga and Megill as the only younger guys at the MLB level, with Vasil the closest thing to a sure thing on the minor league level. Everyone else is elderly in baseball terms, or a huge question mark
Last 2 outings
5/10+5/17 5.2 innings 6 hits 9 er 8 walks (5 today) 8 k's. Today so far 75 pitches 42 strikes
5.25 FIP this year, has never shown an ability to hold his stuff or give many innings and is already almost 28. Savant page is UGLY
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A lot of people watched his first few starts last year when his velocity was way up and he looked NASTY. He's been nothing close to that this year and unfortunately looks like a AAAA type unless he can improve.
So Senga and Megill as the only younger guys at the MLB level, with Vasil the closest thing to a sure thing on the minor league level. Everyone else is elderly in baseball terms, or a huge question mark
it may be better to just keep drafting first round hitters and eventually trade them for someone else's pablo lopez/luis castillo/giolito types at the deadline as rentals since we know cohen will spend to keep the right guys.
and obviously signing ohtani would be very helpful to the cause.
a giolito/hendriks megadeal headlined by a parada or ramirez (or vientos if he isn't helping this year) is something we'd have to consider.
he's never thrown innings so agreed. they've needed extra depth this year so right now he's starting more out of necessity than anything else but just like last year they should start planning to try him as a RP and hope his stuff can play up a little bit.
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4.55 FIP 4.8 innings per start. Command comes and goes, doesn't go deep into games despite his frame. Would love to be proven wrong but I'd be very surprised if that's the case here. He's just a guy.
he's never thrown innings so agreed. they've needed extra depth this year so right now he's starting more out of necessity than anything else but just like last year they should start planning to try him as a RP and hope his stuff can play up a little bit.
I think the odds are significantly better (but not a given) that if he's allowed to throw 1-2 inning bursts his stuff will play up. He seems better in theory (frame etc) as a SP than in performance.
-Nidon't, Mehscobar, and Voyeursnack
IN with the new (called up):
-Alvarez, Baty, and Vientos (Mauricio at some point later this season too)
I’m one of the few who think he needs massive changes to his swing. Bat should be quick, but he’s late too often. I’m not sold on him, but the tools are there and he’s young enough.
Who knows how low you can get him? Or others. Experiment knowing you’ve got a halfway decent prospect to fall back on. No joke, why not shoot for the moon?
April: .213/.338/.328 1 HR, 5 total XBH in 16 games
May: .311/.380/.600 2 HR, 8 total XBH in 12 games
13.2 innings 21 k's on the season. He'll probably spend the second half in Bing.
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Mark Vientos is likely to be in the lineup tonight for the Mets, per @martinonyc
Buck Showalter will make the final decision later today
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Last time I checked, Holderman was struggling in the Pirates Pen. Still rather have him in the minors, than Vogey as DH.
What about the posse that Eppier gave up for Ruf ? I saw where Szapucki has what appears to be Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. I thought Zwick was decent in the Mets farm system.
I just hope their Minor League Pitching Co-Ord can develop some of the young talent.
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TJ, Anthony Kay 5.51 era in the Cubs system, Dunn out for maybe the season, Flexen era over 7.00, Adam Hill yet to pitch in 2023 Ginn 8.31 FIP/12.83 era, Wolf 6.74 FIP... Indian burial ground?
Last time I checked, Holderman was struggling in the Pirates Pen. Still rather have him in the minors, than Vogey as DH.
What about the posse that Eppier gave up for Ruf ? I saw where Szapucki has what appears to be Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. I thought Zwick was decent in the Mets farm system.
I just hope their Minor League Pitching Co-Ord can develop some of the young talent.
Zwack 5.12 FIP/6.17 era (in fairness, he's been unlucky with a .349 BABIP. 10.03 K/9.
Seymour 3.46 era/4.77 FIP
And as we know JD Davis = outstanding for SF
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TJ, Anthony Kay 5.51 era in the Cubs system, Dunn out for maybe the season, Flexen era over 7.00, Adam Hill yet to pitch in 2023 Ginn 8.31 FIP/12.83 era, Wolf 6.74 FIP... Indian burial ground?
Last time I checked, Holderman was struggling in the Pirates Pen. Still rather have him in the minors, than Vogey as DH.
What about the posse that Eppier gave up for Ruf ? I saw where Szapucki has what appears to be Thoracic Outlet Syndrome. I thought Zwick was decent in the Mets farm system.
I just hope their Minor League Pitching Co-Ord can develop some of the young talent.
Holderman has been very good. 2.49 FIP 10.7 K/9
if we could reverse that one i think we would given the injury to diaz.
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4.55 FIP 4.8 innings per start. Command comes and goes, doesn't go deep into games despite his frame. Would love to be proven wrong but I'd be very surprised if that's the case here. He's just a guy.
he's never thrown innings so agreed. they've needed extra depth this year so right now he's starting more out of necessity than anything else but just like last year they should start planning to try him as a RP and hope his stuff can play up a little bit.
I think the odds are significantly better (but not a given) that if he's allowed to throw 1-2 inning bursts his stuff will play up. He seems better in theory (frame etc) as a SP than in performance.
Agreed. Ideally, Megill is a bullpen guy, where I think he could excel. My point was that's all they really have in terms of young(ish) starting pitching. Senga, Megill (who I agree is not ideal as a SP), and looks like Vasil down the line
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next year Mets will have Baty, Alvarez, and Vientos full-time. Hopefully they will have had their adjustment period. Mauricio in the mix as well. Young guys in Ramirez, Jett, Parada, etc. And a desperate need for pitching. I'm all about BPA in the MLB draft, but damn they need some pitching desperately. Vasil looks like he may be an answer. Megill at the back end. Thought Peterson would be fine at 4 or 5, but that is in serious doubt to put it mildly.
So Senga and Megill as the only younger guys at the MLB level, with Vasil the closest thing to a sure thing on the minor league level. Everyone else is elderly in baseball terms, or a huge question mark
it may be better to just keep drafting first round hitters and eventually trade them for someone else's pablo lopez/luis castillo/giolito types at the deadline as rentals since we know cohen will spend to keep the right guys.
and obviously signing ohtani would be very helpful to the cause.
a giolito/hendriks megadeal headlined by a parada or ramirez (or vientos if he isn't helping this year) is something we'd have to consider.
Will be interesting to see which way the Mets go. On one head, they are a built to win team with a rotation headlined by aging veterans Verlander and Scherzer. On the other hand, they are transitioning to a bunch of younger players. I looked ahead to June's schedule, and it is not easy, particularly when you consider they can't beat the likes of the Rockies, Tigers, Reds, and Nationals right now.
I'd hate for them to trade away top young prospects like Vientos, Parada, or Jett again to make a run, and then miss the playoffs, or be a quick exit. But at the same time, it's kind of hard to not seize the opportunity of having Verlander and Scherzer.
Mets luck, we know how it will go. Verlander and Scherzer will be dealing, Mets will make some deals, one or both of them gets injured, season goes down the toilet.
the whole thing comes down to the every day players. they need to get on track and develop an identity that's not comfortably numb.
they have no identity whatsoever right now and on the season. pray alonso homers i guess?
it's a lot to place on the kids but 1 of these 3 could be what they need to spark them to an identity. they wont change things by themselves - canha/marte need to step up, narvaez coming back should help, bench guys need to also contribute (remember when Guillorme was hitting .400 last year?). but they need someone other than lindor/alonso talented enough to drive in runs like michael harris did in atlanta last year. the 3 kids are it and baty may already be halfway there.
if 2 or 3 of the kids step up that's when things could really snowball (in a good way).