Do we have a frozen envelope type situation (Dallas or Chicago)? Does San Antonio begin its next dynasty? Which of these losers will win the rights to the biggest prospect since Lebron?!
plus still have sharpe (maybe simons depending on how they match siakam). could probably go og+ over siakam if they want.
is miller worth a few possible playoff runs with lillard if he wants to stay?
Sounds like they are going win now, GM all but said the 3rd pick is up for trade for a win now piece..
if most of us were in year 2 as gms and we wanted to keep our jobs, we'd probably do the same.
door #1 - trade an iconic player, lose 50+ games each of the next 2 years, probably get fired at that point, maybe another regime comes in and turns the young guys you drafted into a productive core
door #2 - trade for some 3rd team all nba player like siakam, hope to get 1 more good run out of lillard as a 1st/2nd team all nba player, if it doesn't work out make trades in-season to recoup whatever future firsts you can. lillard was excellent last year and he has 4 years under contract that will be his a33-36. i dont think it's crazy to hope for 1 or 2 all nba seasons (he was 3rd team this year despite missing time).
the only difference between scenario 1 + 2 is if brandon miller is some kind of unique prospect way beyond whatever you can get via a different trade of lillard/whoever they trade for down the road. idk know that answer but odds are he isn't.
So Randle and next year's Dallas pick for scoot or miller and whatever filler they want to send back in salary.
Make it happen Ros
gonna be better offers than randle but you're in the right direction.
RE: Personally happy that Wemby went to play for Pop
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
I tried to watch the Laker Nuggets game last night
It looks like a foreign sport from the last century.
The Nuggets steal the ball from Lebron and instead of getting back on defense he actually stopped playing and complained as play continued up court.
Just unwatchable
RE: I tried to watch the Laker Nuggets game last night
It looks like a foreign sport from the last century.
The Nuggets steal the ball from Lebron and instead of getting back on defense he actually stopped playing and complained as play continued up court.
Just unwatchable
I thought it was a tremendous game.
If you like 3 point shooting and no defense, enjoy
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here.
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here. Link - ( New Window )
Three of the best centers in the last 30 years or so of the draft. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, now Wemby. It's rigged. 👍
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here. Link - ( New Window )
Three of the best centers in the last 30 years or so of the draft. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, now Wemby. It's rigged. 👍
Okay. Why? Why would they rig the draft for the 30th media market in the country? If it was rigged, LA, NY, and CHI would win every other year...
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here. Link - ( New Window )
Three of the best centers in the last 30 years or so of the draft. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, now Wemby. It's rigged. 👍
Okay. Why? Why would they rig the draft for the 30th media market in the country? If it was rigged, LA, NY, and CHI would win every other year...
NBA loves parity, but that being said, can't imagine this was rigged for SA.
How does Woj try to say Wemby is the best prospect in sports history? Or that he could be the best offensive and defensive player in the league by his 3rd season? I get he’s a franchise changing talent but that seems over the top.
Better nba prospect than Kareem, Duncan and Lebron? That’s a bit much.
RE: RE: Personally happy that Wemby went to play for Pop
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
Hindsight aside, Oden and Zion couldn't hold Wemby's jockstrap as a prospect IMO.
How does Woj try to say Wemby is the best prospect in sports history? Or that he could be the best offensive and defensive player in the league by his 3rd season? I get he’s a franchise changing talent but that seems over the top.
Better nba prospect than Kareem, Duncan and Lebron? That’s a bit much.
I agreed with the sentiment that he is the best prospect to come out since Lebron. Crazy to say the best in sports history, but he is a once in a generation talent with the ability to do what he does at his size
but I think LeBron would still rank ahead based on his physical gifts. He was much more explosive than Wemby. He also had a grown ass man body when he was 17. Wemby's size makes him an injury concern by default.
Ralph Sampson is probably the most historically analogous comp as a prospect. 7'3"+ guy with perimeter skills that he shouldn't have. Just insane hype for him as well, coming off that epic college career.
RE: RE: RE: Personally happy that Wemby went to play for Pop
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
Hindsight aside, Oden and Zion couldn't hold Wemby's jockstrap as a prospect IMO.
I'd say Wemby ranks ahead of both as prospects too but both of them had tons of hype. Both had much more injury concerns though even as prospects.
I still think Oden would've been a HOFer had he stayed healthy. He's the only guy since Shaq to even resemble that combination of size/explosion. He would've been a bigger Dwight Howard imo. Zion still has a chance, he's really good when he plays.
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
Exactly. Popovich is the best case scenario for him to develop to his potential, which is what I want for him as a fan of the game. And as a Knicks fan, San Antonio is the perfect location for him too. Out west to a great coach. Love it.
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
I really think Portland is just posturing with the hopes of getting the best possible package for Dame. There's no move to be made with the third pick that would make them title contenders and they can't possibly be stupid enough to deal the pick for a team that (at best) won't make it out of the second round.
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
I really think Portland is just posturing with the hopes of getting the best possible package for Dame. There's no move to be made with the third pick that would make them title contenders and they can't possibly be stupid enough to deal the pick for a team that (at best) won't make it out of the second round.
problem is the team wont deal him without his consent and Dame will never ask out
If you trade the 3rd pick and younger players like Simons to get Bridges/DeRozan/Beal etc. It's not enough to win a championship
If you go full youth movement and move Dame do the owners have the stomach for 3 or 4 years of losing
Dame turns 33 this summer so of course it makes perfect sense for them to retool with an aging star who hasn't suited up for more than 70 regular season games in 4 seasons. Sure, trade the 3rd overall pick for the chance to win 45-50 games next season & be the 5th or 6th seed in the West.
Jimmy does Jimmy things. Bam/Lowry do Bam/Lowry things - and by that I mean, they tried their best to break Jaylen Brown’s arm while scrambling for a loose ball, but he survived.
Jimmy does Jimmy things. Bam/Lowry do Bam/Lowry things - and by that I mean, they tried their best to break Jaylen Brown’s arm while scrambling for a loose ball, but he survived.
Jimmy is a bad dude. Just knows how to get it done.
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
Just thinking out loud --let's say the Knicks love the top 3 players in this draft. You send Randle and picks back to Portland for pick 3. We then sign KP as a FA....would you?
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Stephon Marbury MIGHT have been toxic when he was a Knick. The team sucked and MArbs was cooky nutty and weird. Even then, toxic? Maybe.
Randle just helped his team make the playoffs 2-3 seasons and made the all NBA team in both those seasons. HE isn't the best player on a title team. THAT is not quite the same thing as toxic. HE did have a bad playoff game or two or three. And he didn't get back on D after complaining to the refs. Ok....AND? That still isn't toxic. That's a great player with flaws. Big difference.
Anyway, if the Knicks loved a player in this draft and could trade Randle, sign KP to fill that 4-5 spot I might think about it. Probably won't happen.
What likely happens is the Knicks trade one of IQ or Grimes along with Obi and picks for a star SG/SF.
Reason why I am slightly open to trading Randle is I think RJ can pickup a lot of the scoring if it were to happen.
I don't know if they trade IQ. I would think the Knicks love him. Grimes is another story but we're talking about a 2nd year player heading into year 3 and the guy plays awesome defense. His upside is all star player if he can get there.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
A toxic player can destroy team unity, undermine coaches, disrupt routines, and write checks his play can’t cash. The contribute to a loser mentality and a losing team. They’re a virus that can infect other teammates. They’re more trouble than they’re worth. A great player who is toxic is Kyrie. A shitty player who is toxic is Dillon Brooks.
I’d take Sabonis over him. I think that’s the closest comp. Both got a bit exposed in these playoffs but are offensive studs at the PF position in the regular season.
Brunson is fantastic. What a great Knick. Trust me I’m not tryna shit on him. But his time of possession data is too high period. The Knicks need to create a more diverse offense with more Brunson off-ball play since he can also be good like that too.
Were going to win the lottery. Yeah I guess they're considered a small market team, but they're one of the best franchises in the modern day NBA. They make a lot more sense than Houston/Detroit/Charlotte/Portland.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
All NBA 3rd team 2 of the last 3 seasons. That is the very epitome of top 15. Literally it's top 15.
HE's a top 20 player at the very very least. ANd he never gets hurt and when he does he comes back faster than anyone.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
All NBA 3rd team 2 of the last 3 seasons. That is the very epitome of top 15. Literally it's top 15.
HE's a top 20 player at the very very least. ANd he never gets hurt and when he does he comes back faster than anyone.
Giannis
Jokic
Doncic
Tatum
Curry
Lebron
Davis
Butler
Embiid
Durant
Booker
Morant
Donovan Mitchell
Brunson
Fox
Holiday
SGA
Jaylen Brown
Kawhi
PG13
Bam
Haliburton
Jackson Jr
I like Randle but how can you argue he’s better than one of those guys?
Wasn’t sure how I’d feel about this series but I’m enjoying watching Boston lose. Celtics were up nine in the fourth when Grant Williams made the mistake of trash talking Butler.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
All NBA 3rd team 2 of the last 3 seasons. That is the very epitome of top 15. Literally it's top 15.
HE's a top 20 player at the very very least. ANd he never gets hurt and when he does he comes back faster than anyone.
Giannis
Jokic
Doncic
Tatum
Curry
Lebron
Davis
Butler
Embiid
Durant
Booker
Morant
Donovan Mitchell
Brunson
Fox
Holiday
SGA
Jaylen Brown
Kawhi
PG13
Bam
Haliburton
Jackson Jr
I like Randle but how can you argue he’s better than one of those guys?
Also add Lillard, Harden, Trae Young, Siakam to that list. Randle is borderline top 30
Quote:
In comment 16118232 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 16118114 Eric on Li said:
Quote:
plus still have sharpe (maybe simons depending on how they match siakam). could probably go og+ over siakam if they want.
is miller worth a few possible playoff runs with lillard if he wants to stay?
Sounds like they are going win now, GM all but said the 3rd pick is up for trade for a win now piece..
if most of us were in year 2 as gms and we wanted to keep our jobs, we'd probably do the same.
door #1 - trade an iconic player, lose 50+ games each of the next 2 years, probably get fired at that point, maybe another regime comes in and turns the young guys you drafted into a productive core
door #2 - trade for some 3rd team all nba player like siakam, hope to get 1 more good run out of lillard as a 1st/2nd team all nba player, if it doesn't work out make trades in-season to recoup whatever future firsts you can. lillard was excellent last year and he has 4 years under contract that will be his a33-36. i dont think it's crazy to hope for 1 or 2 all nba seasons (he was 3rd team this year despite missing time).
the only difference between scenario 1 + 2 is if brandon miller is some kind of unique prospect way beyond whatever you can get via a different trade of lillard/whoever they trade for down the road. idk know that answer but odds are he isn't.
So Randle and next year's Dallas pick for scoot or miller and whatever filler they want to send back in salary.
Make it happen Ros
gonna be better offers than randle but you're in the right direction.
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
The Nuggets steal the ball from Lebron and instead of getting back on defense he actually stopped playing and complained as play continued up court.
Just unwatchable
The Nuggets steal the ball from Lebron and instead of getting back on defense he actually stopped playing and complained as play continued up court.
Just unwatchable
I thought it was a tremendous game.
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here.
Link - ( New Window )
Quote:
rewarding the small market Spurs yet again.
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here. Link - ( New Window )
Three of the best centers in the last 30 years or so of the draft. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, now Wemby. It's rigged. 👍
Quote:
In comment 16118003 GFAN52 said:
Quote:
rewarding the small market Spurs yet again.
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here. Link - ( New Window )
Three of the best centers in the last 30 years or so of the draft. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, now Wemby. It's rigged. 👍
Okay. Why? Why would they rig the draft for the 30th media market in the country? If it was rigged, LA, NY, and CHI would win every other year...
Quote:
In comment 16118456 Gatorade Dunk said:
Quote:
In comment 16118003 GFAN52 said:
Quote:
rewarding the small market Spurs yet again.
The last time the Spurs won the lottery was 26 years ago, which is more than half of their entire NBA existence. I'm not sure "yet again" applies here. Link - ( New Window )
Three of the best centers in the last 30 years or so of the draft. David Robinson, Tim Duncan, now Wemby. It's rigged. 👍
Okay. Why? Why would they rig the draft for the 30th media market in the country? If it was rigged, LA, NY, and CHI would win every other year...
NBA loves parity, but that being said, can't imagine this was rigged for SA.
Better nba prospect than Kareem, Duncan and Lebron? That’s a bit much.
Quote:
It's perfect.
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
Hindsight aside, Oden and Zion couldn't hold Wemby's jockstrap as a prospect IMO.
Better nba prospect than Kareem, Duncan and Lebron? That’s a bit much.
I agreed with the sentiment that he is the best prospect to come out since Lebron. Crazy to say the best in sports history, but he is a once in a generation talent with the ability to do what he does at his size
Ralph Sampson is probably the most historically analogous comp as a prospect. 7'3"+ guy with perimeter skills that he shouldn't have. Just insane hype for him as well, coming off that epic college career.
Quote:
In comment 16118177 Heisenberg said:
Quote:
It's perfect.
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
Hindsight aside, Oden and Zion couldn't hold Wemby's jockstrap as a prospect IMO.
I'd say Wemby ranks ahead of both as prospects too but both of them had tons of hype. Both had much more injury concerns though even as prospects.
I still think Oden would've been a HOFer had he stayed healthy. He's the only guy since Shaq to even resemble that combination of size/explosion. He would've been a bigger Dwight Howard imo. Zion still has a chance, he's really good when he plays.
I mean you couldn't create a better modern NBA prospect than Lebron at 18.
I mean you couldn't create a better modern NBA prospect than Lebron at 18.
Sure you could - make him six inches taller.
Quote:
It's perfect.
As a basketball fan, this is how I feel. His ceiling seems to be as high as it gets, and Pop is just the guy I want guiding him there. I also think San Antonio is great for him as a low key city so he won't be too overwhelmed by the media.
Oden and Zion were the previous two historically unique freaks, injuries killed Oden's career and it looks like they're doing the same for Zion. We're due for one of these guys to stay healthy and live up to the hype. So excited to see this guy play.
Exactly. Popovich is the best case scenario for him to develop to his potential, which is what I want for him as a fan of the game. And as a Knicks fan, San Antonio is the perfect location for him too. Out west to a great coach. Love it.
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
The Knicks are not trading Randle for a pick, nor is the player any of these teams would want, if that is where you are going.
Quote:
Portland had put 3 up for sale for a vet..
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
The Knicks are not trading Randle for a pick, nor is the player any of these teams would want, if that is where you are going.
Why wouldn't the Pacers do that? He would actually fit very nicely there. I'm not sure the Knicks should.
Randle is an all star and 3rd team nba player on a reasonable contract. I have no doubt a team would trade for him.
Quote:
Portland had put 3 up for sale for a vet..
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
The Knicks are not trading Randle for a pick, nor is the player any of these teams would want, if that is where you are going.
Did i mention the Knicks?
Quote:
In comment 16118560 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
Portland had put 3 up for sale for a vet..
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
The Knicks are not trading Randle for a pick, nor is the player any of these teams would want, if that is where you are going.
Why wouldn't the Pacers do that? He would actually fit very nicely there. I'm not sure the Knicks should.
Randle is an all star and 3rd team nba player on a reasonable contract. I have no doubt a team would trade for him.
Teams are going to consider if Randle so "valuable" why are the Knicks trading him. His attitude is toxic, and other dreams know that as well.
Quote:
In comment 16118584 Pete44 said:
Quote:
In comment 16118560 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
Portland had put 3 up for sale for a vet..
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
The Knicks are not trading Randle for a pick, nor is the player any of these teams would want, if that is where you are going.
Why wouldn't the Pacers do that? He would actually fit very nicely there. I'm not sure the Knicks should.
Randle is an all star and 3rd team nba player on a reasonable contract. I have no doubt a team would trade for him.
Teams are going to consider if Randle so "valuable" why are the Knicks trading him. His attitude is toxic, and other dreams know that as well.
Because sometimes teams hit a ceiling with certain players and need to trade a guy to improve your team..
Kind of like the Jazz did with Mitchell and Gobert..
Derozan in toronto..
billups with the Pistons..
Hell Melo with denver..
Doesnt mean the Knicks dont want him
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
I really think Portland is just posturing with the hopes of getting the best possible package for Dame. There's no move to be made with the third pick that would make them title contenders and they can't possibly be stupid enough to deal the pick for a team that (at best) won't make it out of the second round.
Couldn't you say that about literally any player that a team is willing to trade?
Quote:
Portland had put 3 up for sale for a vet..
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
I really think Portland is just posturing with the hopes of getting the best possible package for Dame. There's no move to be made with the third pick that would make them title contenders and they can't possibly be stupid enough to deal the pick for a team that (at best) won't make it out of the second round.
problem is the team wont deal him without his consent and Dame will never ask out
If you go full youth movement and move Dame do the owners have the stomach for 3 or 4 years of losing
Quote:
.
Couldn't you say that about literally any player that a team is willing to trade?
Not when it comes to players attitudes like Randall's.
Hope we don't see more of this with the Sunday ticket.
Jimmy is a bad dude. Just knows how to get it done.
Houston if they really want Harden will put 4 up for sale for a vet..
Rumors the Pacers are putting 7 up for sale for a vet
Just thinking out loud --let's say the Knicks love the top 3 players in this draft. You send Randle and picks back to Portland for pick 3. We then sign KP as a FA....would you?
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle just helped his team make the playoffs 2-3 seasons and made the all NBA team in both those seasons. HE isn't the best player on a title team. THAT is not quite the same thing as toxic. HE did have a bad playoff game or two or three. And he didn't get back on D after complaining to the refs. Ok....AND? That still isn't toxic. That's a great player with flaws. Big difference.
Anyway, if the Knicks loved a player in this draft and could trade Randle, sign KP to fill that 4-5 spot I might think about it. Probably won't happen.
What likely happens is the Knicks trade one of IQ or Grimes along with Obi and picks for a star SG/SF.
Reason why I am slightly open to trading Randle is I think RJ can pickup a lot of the scoring if it were to happen.
I don't know if they trade IQ. I would think the Knicks love him. Grimes is another story but we're talking about a 2nd year player heading into year 3 and the guy plays awesome defense. His upside is all star player if he can get there.
Quote:
.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
I’d take Sabonis over him. I think that’s the closest comp. Both got a bit exposed in these playoffs but are offensive studs at the PF position in the regular season.
Brunson is fantastic. What a great Knick. Trust me I’m not tryna shit on him. But his time of possession data is too high period. The Knicks need to create a more diverse offense with more Brunson off-ball play since he can also be good like that too.
Are you still doing Trident referrals?
Quote:
In comment 16118636 GFAN52 said:
Quote:
.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
All NBA 3rd team 2 of the last 3 seasons. That is the very epitome of top 15. Literally it's top 15.
HE's a top 20 player at the very very least. ANd he never gets hurt and when he does he comes back faster than anyone.
Quote:
In comment 16119200 djm said:
Quote:
In comment 16118636 GFAN52 said:
Quote:
.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
All NBA 3rd team 2 of the last 3 seasons. That is the very epitome of top 15. Literally it's top 15.
HE's a top 20 player at the very very least. ANd he never gets hurt and when he does he comes back faster than anyone.
Giannis
Jokic
Doncic
Tatum
Curry
Lebron
Davis
Butler
Embiid
Durant
Booker
Morant
Donovan Mitchell
Brunson
Fox
Holiday
SGA
Jaylen Brown
Kawhi
PG13
Bam
Haliburton
Jackson Jr
I like Randle but how can you argue he’s better than one of those guys?
Quote:
In comment 16119310 TyreeHelmet said:
Quote:
In comment 16119200 djm said:
Quote:
In comment 16118636 GFAN52 said:
Quote:
.
Randle isn't toxic at all. He just isn't a perfect or legendary player.
The guy is a top 15 player in the NBA. Fact. Go through the top 20 list and you can find warts on just about every player on the list save for 3-4.
I would consider moving Randle but this myth from the fans is just utter nonsense. Everyone has a hot take on Randle. No one wants to allow for some middle ground.
Randle gets too much shit but hes not even close to top 15
All NBA 3rd team 2 of the last 3 seasons. That is the very epitome of top 15. Literally it's top 15.
HE's a top 20 player at the very very least. ANd he never gets hurt and when he does he comes back faster than anyone.
Giannis
Jokic
Doncic
Tatum
Curry
Lebron
Davis
Butler
Embiid
Durant
Booker
Morant
Donovan Mitchell
Brunson
Fox
Holiday
SGA
Jaylen Brown
Kawhi
PG13
Bam
Haliburton
Jackson Jr
I like Randle but how can you argue he’s better than one of those guys?
Also add Lillard, Harden, Trae Young, Siakam to that list. Randle is borderline top 30