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Talkin' Giants - 53 Man Roster Prediction.

Klaatu : 5/19/2023 9:09 am
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00:00 intro
2:40 Start of 53 Man Roster Prediction
3:10 Would we be willing to have 3 QBs for Malik Willis?
5:10 Running Back
6:20 Wide Receiver
13:15 Tight End
16:05 Offensive Line
23:00 EDGE
25:10 Interior Defensive Line
26:30 Interior Linebacker
30:00 Cornerback
33:30 Safety
34:30 Special Teams
36:55 Last 3 out and last 3 in

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Predictions and 'would-do' lists  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2023 11:24 am : link
QB (2): Jones, Taylor
Would-do: If Malik Willis were available, might make room for him. Otherwise, just carry two.

RB (3): Barkley, Gray, Breida
They cut Brightwell.

WR (6 or 7): Slayton, Campbell, Hodgins, Hyatt, W. Robinson (assumed healthy), Johnson.
Bobby adds Eric Smith. They agree Shepard is a tough cut and only makes it if he's fully healthy and others are injured.

TE (3 or 4): Waller, Bellinger, Myarick. Justin adds Cager and carries 4, would cut Myarick if limited to 3 TEs.

OL (9): Thomas, Neal, Phillips, Ezeudu, Bredson, Glowinski, Schmitz, McKethan. Bobby keeps Lemieux and makes him the backup center; Justin keeps Hamilton as OL9.

EDGE (4 or 5): Thibodeaux, Ojulari, Ward, Baldonado. Justin adds Fox.

DT (5): Lawrence, L.Williams, An.Robinson, Nunez-Roches. They lean toward Riley as DT5, but it's a competition with Davidson. Anderson is out.

ILB (5 or 6): Okereke, McFadden, Beavers, Davis, Brown (for STs). Bobby also adds Coughlin for specials. They note that Davis could be beaten out by D.Johnson or a late addition.

CB (6 or 7): Jackson, Banks, Flott, Aa.Robinson, Hawkins, Oruwariye. Justin adds McCloud for versatility. Both cut Holmes because of cap hit and system fit. (Pay cut might be an option, like Slayton in 2022.)

S (5): McKinney, Owens, Belton, McCain, Pinnock. (Five is heavy, but they bring different skill sets.)

ST (3): Gillan, Gano, Kreiter. Crowder (PR), Gray (KR) returns kicks. Smith, Brown, and Coughlin are listed elsewhere

Last three out:
Bobby - Holmes, Shepard, McCloud (narrowly over Peart)
Justin - Shepard, Lemieux, Holmes

Last three in:
Bobby: Lemieux, Oruwariye, Davis
Justin: Cager, Crowder, McCloud
I think for money and performance reasons Brightwell stays  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/19/2023 11:42 am : link
And Brieda gets traded for picks. Wandell will not be ready to start the season and i think Ford is going to be a big surprise in the exhibition games
I don't see any real surprises.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2023 11:49 am : link
Of course, you can question the last spot at most positions.

The only place where I question their logic is Myarick over Sweeney. I don't know who's better, and would be fine with neither making it. My question would be: if the team doesn't see Sweeney as an upgrade over Myarick, why sign him? Just as insurance? He's not exactly a model of durability.
RE: I think for money and performance reasons Brightwell stays  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/19/2023 11:57 am : link
In comment 16119636 Rich_Houston_1971 said:
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And Brieda gets traded for picks. Wandell will not be ready to start the season and i think Ford is going to be a big surprise in the exhibition games

What picks do you think Brieda would command? A conditional 7th? He's a decent backup RB, but most teams have their own Brieda in some form or another.
interesting that they both have Baldonado  
Del Shofner : 5/19/2023 12:10 pm : link
making the roster @ edge
I know I started this thread, but...  
Klaatu : 5/19/2023 1:50 pm : link
I think it's a little too early to be making roster predictions. It's a fun exercise, and every podcaster/content-creator has to fill time anyway, but I'd like to see what transpires over the Spring and Summer before I make my own predictions.

Well...except for predicting the Elerson Smith is ready to dominate!
Holmes is a starter again this year  
JerseyCityJoe : 5/19/2023 2:11 pm : link
It would have to be a money thing to move him out.
RE: Holmes is a starter again this year  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2023 2:34 pm : link
JerseyCityJoe said:
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It would have to be a money thing to move him out.

Skinner sees Darnay Holmes as a decent player who simply isn't a fit for any role in Martindale's defense. His view is that slot corner should come down to Flott vs. Robinson, which is interesting since they are so different physically.
Should have had a section  
Gman11 : 5/19/2023 3:20 pm : link
of "most likely to be injured in pre-season."

Anyway, I can see letting Holmes go. He might be an OK player, but he's a penalty waiting to happen.

Myarick? Sweeney? What's the difference? It's funny though. When reporters evaluate players like this the first thing they mention are receptions and yards. If either of them make the team it's because they are a couple of biscuits short of being a guard.
I've seen here that  
Bill in UT : 5/19/2023 3:31 pm : link
Ryan Anderson put on a good amount of weight since last season. I'd like to see how that translates before cutting him.
Dont like cutting Brightwell  
John In CO : 5/19/2023 3:53 pm : link
Like.....not at all. You want smart tough dependable....that guy. Plays special teams too. In fact I think thats what he was drafted for. But I loved that kids effort every time he touched the ball last season. I know he isnt Barkley, not even close, but damn.
RE: I've seen here that  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2023 3:54 pm : link
Bill in UT said:
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Ryan Anderson put on a good amount of weight since last season. I'd like to see how that translates before cutting him.

You probably mean Ryder Anderson.

IIRC, Ryan Anderson (the linebacker) got caught juicing and never played a game for the Giants. There was another Ryan Anderson in camp a couple of years earlier, a punter from Rutgers. He's currently pursuing an opportunity with the Bears.



RE: Dont like cutting Brightwell  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2023 3:57 pm : link
John In CO said:
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Like.....not at all. You want smart tough dependable....that guy. Plays special teams too. In fact I think thats what he was drafted for. But I loved that kids effort every time he touched the ball last season. I know he isnt Barkley, not even close, but damn.

Their take on Brightwell is that there are only so many carries to go around, and Gray is both a roster lock and an upgrade. Brightwell's best chance might be an injury to Breida, which isn't a bad bet.
RE: I know I started this thread, but...  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/19/2023 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16119691 Klaatu said:
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I think it's a little too early to be making roster predictions. It's a fun exercise, and every podcaster/content-creator has to fill time anyway, but I'd like to see what transpires over the Spring and Summer before I make my own predictions.

Well...except for predicting the Elerson Smith is ready to dominate!


Smith is no Jonas Seawright though
RE: RE: I know I started this thread, but...  
Klaatu : 5/19/2023 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16119784 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 16119691 Klaatu said:


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I think it's a little too early to be making roster predictions. It's a fun exercise, and every podcaster/content-creator has to fill time anyway, but I'd like to see what transpires over the Spring and Summer before I make my own predictions.

Well...except for predicting the Elerson Smith is ready to dominate!



Smith is no Jonas Seawright though


Sure, but then, who is?

The legend lives on from the Meadowlands on down,
Of the big kid they call Jonas Seawright.
The kid it is said can't be blocked or stay fed,
And with him at DT we'll be alright...
In camp we could see he'd surpassed Lance Legree  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/19/2023 4:53 pm : link
And Tim Lewis said, "Jonas will show ya."
Soon Lewis was gone. Then Spagnuolo came on
and said "Jonas, it's been good to know ya."
......  
Klaatu : 5/19/2023 4:59 pm : link
Can anyone tell  
mittenedman : 5/19/2023 5:28 pm : link
me what Cam Brown is actually good at on special teams?
Holmes is (potentially) a much more versatile player than he is given  
Ivan15 : 5/19/2023 5:40 pm : link
Credit for.
My prediction: the Giants keep Holmes and work him into the Julian Love role. That takes one season but that’s why McCain is there.
I like Brightwell  
kelly : 5/19/2023 6:08 pm : link
Runs hard, plays specials, always available.

I think he has more value than Breida
If I gambled I’d give odds Holmes makes it.  
BillT : 5/19/2023 8:32 pm : link
Completely under appreciated player that Wink loves. Still the starter at nickel until proven otherwise.
Agree with Skinner on Holmes  
ElitoCanton : 5/19/2023 10:03 pm : link
Guy was one of the weakest aspects of the defense last year. I'd bet Flott beat him out and his increased salary makes him a prime candidate to be cut.
RE: RE: I've seen here that  
Bill in UT : 5/20/2023 12:56 am : link
In comment 16119776 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Bill in UT said:

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Ryan Anderson put on a good amount of weight since last season. I'd like to see how that translates before cutting him.


You probably mean Ryder Anderson.





Yes, I meant Ryder. I usually just call him Ry, so I forgot :)
RE: RE: RE: I've seen here that  
Klaatu : 5/20/2023 11:05 am : link
In comment 16120098 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16119776 Big Blue Blogger said:


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Bill in UT said:

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Ryan Anderson put on a good amount of weight since last season. I'd like to see how that translates before cutting him.

You probably mean Ryder Anderson.

Yes, I meant Ryder. I usually just call him Ry, so I forgot :)


Whatever you call him, I think there's a good chance he sticks, especially if the reports are true and he has bulked up.
RE: interesting that they both have Baldonado  
Blueworm : 5/20/2023 3:27 pm : link
In comment 16119649 Del Shofner said:
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making the roster @ edge


Saskatchewan will have to wait -they were able to draft him in the CFL International draft because he was born in Italy.
Bryce Ford Wheaton  
EJNNJ : 5/20/2023 8:50 pm : link
Is my sleeper pick and steel to make it, i just see him being a beast for CBs to deal with, yes he needs to be coached up abut his attitude says he can be, i don't think he got the coaching at a poor WVU program with no OL and a QB often under pressure(who has since transferred to Rice)

Chase Claypool lite makes the 53

Which one to pick between Riley and Davidson  
Angel Eyes : 5/21/2023 7:10 pm : link
?
RE: Bryce Ford Wheaton  
Del Shofner : 5/21/2023 7:47 pm : link
In comment 16120410 EJNNJ said:
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Is my sleeper pick


Can't say you're wrong. Looking forward to seeing this guy in action.
Hard to see where Ford-Wheaton fits…  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/21/2023 9:28 pm : link
… unless he has a run of luck like David Sills did last year.

Campbell, Slayton, Hodgins, and Hyatt are on the team, barring injury. Robinson is the fifth, unless he starts the season on PUP, in which case Crowder and Shepard are alternatives and/or complements. Smith has a good chance to make it for specials. And even if those heavy seas somehow part for him, Ford-Wheaton still has to pass Johnson, Sills, and three WRs from last year’s PS whom Groh liked enough to bring back.

Maybe Ford-Wheaton will make some plays in preseason against scrub DBs. He’s still more likely to wind up like Corey Washington than Victor Cruz. And even Cruz didn’t play as a rookie.
RE: Hard to see where Ford-Wheaton fits…  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 12:34 am : link
In comment 16120812 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Maybe Ford-Wheaton will make some plays in preseason against scrub DBs. He’s still more likely to wind up like Corey Washington than Victor Cruz. And even Cruz didn’t play as a rookie.


Daboll may be more comfortable playing rookies, in general, than Coughlin was
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