NFT: Knicks Offseason

wanted to go to another team for his last couple of years. But if he did want to come here it would likely be for reasons other than winning. And if that's the case, they why would we bother?

I will stop watching basketball.

who is available this offseason and how the Knicks approach it. If Harden does leave, I can definitely see Embiid asking out. And if he asks specifically for NY, that's probably how it will go.

Wonder if the Front office would consider a move like getting Demarr Derozan on an expiring deal for much cheaper than Embiid would be and try to keep more of the current team intact.

is an excellent player but a pretty poor fit for a Knicks team that needs shooters/players that spread the floor

isn't leaving LA. Bronny at USC, Bryce enrolling in a new HS in LA. This is talk radio nothingness.

In comment 16122376 Stu11 said:

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But looked up that contract extension. WOOF. The more I look at it with the current possible trade options, I like the concept of bringing in Porzi and then maybe a shooter like Buddy Hield? They both are expiring next year and we could see how it works out with them on the roster next season and then decide going forward what we'd want to do contract wise with them. Another option is Zach Lavine instead of Hield he's just much pricier and long term contract wise.

KP has a player option, only realistic way he'll be a Knick is on a sign and trade aka multi-year deal

In comment 16122555 DanMetroMan said:

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is an excellent player but a pretty poor fit for a Knicks team that needs shooters/players that spread the floor

I dunno. He's an efficient offensive player. I think that the Knicks need efficacy more than anything else. I know it's a simplistic way to look at it, and spacing might be an issue, but maybe the creative offensive coaches on our staff could make the fit work.

In comment 16122567 Jan in DC said:

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In comment 16122555 DanMetroMan said: Quote: is an excellent player but a pretty poor fit for a Knicks team that needs shooters/players that spread the floor I dunno. He's an efficient offensive player. I think that the Knicks need efficacy more than anything else. I know it's a simplistic way to look at it, and spacing might be an issue, but maybe the creative offensive coaches on our staff could make the fit work.

Not even trying to be snarky... what creativity did you see from the Knicks vs. Miami that leads you to believe they suddenly will craft a strong offense with another player who does his best damage with the ball and at mid-close range? Brunson was routinely running into excessive traffic because teams could sag against the Knicks.

on those Obi/Duarte talks from the trade deadline, or maybe the Knicks can grab a late first rounder from Indy - they have a couple of them (in addition to the seventh pick). Maybe Hield comes up in those talks.

expect Obi to be traded. The way he's been used = they likely feel they can cash in for a similar "level" player and then find a stretch 4. Obi was basically relegated to 3 point bomber.

expect Toronto to be very, very active FWIW

fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen)

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I will stop watching basketball.

In comment 16122556 DanMetroMan said:

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isn't leaving LA. Bronny at USC, Bryce enrolling in a new HS in LA. This is talk radio nothingness.

This I do believe.

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fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen)

If the Knicks loved one of the top 3 and they traded Randle for that 3rd overall pick....I might be ok with this if they landed a good PF in FA to mitigate Randle's departure. That said it would be a huge hole to fill but if you love that 3rd pick/player I would get the move.

In comment 16122568 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 16122567 Jan in DC said: Quote: In comment 16122555 DanMetroMan said: Quote: is an excellent player but a pretty poor fit for a Knicks team that needs shooters/players that spread the floor I dunno. He's an efficient offensive player. I think that the Knicks need efficacy more than anything else. I know it's a simplistic way to look at it, and spacing might be an issue, but maybe the creative offensive coaches on our staff could make the fit work. Not even trying to be snarky... what creativity did you see from the Knicks vs. Miami that leads you to believe they suddenly will craft a strong offense with another player who does his best damage with the ball and at mid-close range? Brunson was routinely running into excessive traffic because teams could sag against the Knicks.

Sorry, my bad.

I was being sarcastic with the creative minds comment.

I do think that he'd still find his shots here. But it wouldn't have to be him. I was just mentioning him as a lower cost alternative to an ALL IN trade.

suspect a team signs Reaves to a sheet, heck if we had the space I'd be advocating such a move. He's not a Lebron creation, the kid is talented



"Austin Reaves is the top free agent the Lakers will likely prioritize this summer. The second-year guard is one of the biggest undrafted success stories with a massive leap at the offensive end this season. He is set to become a restricted Early Bird free agent this offseason and the Lakers could have some challenges toward re-signing him.

They are limited to offering him four years, projected at $54 million, the maximum amount a team can re-sign their Early Bird free agents to. Teams with cap space can offer him an offer sheet for more money that, if matched by the Lakers, would have significantly higher cap hits on the backend. The most another team with cap space can offer him is projected at four years, $100.4 million."

In comment 16122597 DanMetroMan said:

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suspect a team signs Reaves to a sheet, heck if we had the space I'd be advocating such a move. He's not a Lebron creation, the kid is talented "Austin Reaves is the top free agent the Lakers will likely prioritize this summer. The second-year guard is one of the biggest undrafted success stories with a massive leap at the offensive end this season. He is set to become a restricted Early Bird free agent this offseason and the Lakers could have some challenges toward re-signing him. They are limited to offering him four years, projected at $54 million, the maximum amount a team can re-sign their Early Bird free agents to. Teams with cap space can offer him an offer sheet for more money that, if matched by the Lakers, would have significantly higher cap hits on the backend. The most another team with cap space can offer him is projected at four years, $100.4 million."

He feels like a Spurs kinda player. Or Utah. I can see either of those teams offering him a nice deal with the idea of screwing over the Lakers.

In comment 16122579 DanMetroMan said:

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fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen)

Knicks are not looking to get into this draft and would never take the step pack of dealing Randle for a rookie.

If the Knicks trade Randle, they will want a similarly productive player back.

he's another Fournier.

I could see the Spurs making a run for Reaves. San Antonio has a ton of cap space.

Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass.

He’ll likely decline his player option ($4.5 million). Another Nova guy, played with Brunson and Hart.

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he's another Fournier.

Reaves is a much better all-around player than Fournier. He does all of the little things. He's a "winning" type of player.

.142 WS/48 this season. Fournier's best ever was .106, career .078

RAPTOR ranked Reaves 21st in the NBA this season, 29th in box score Raptor, 12th in on/of. If the Knicks had space I'd be all over him.

Hoopshype

"Growing into one of the best young guards in the league who is adept at drawing fouls, especially for his age, and can shoot the ball from three or from the midrange. Smooth feel for the game and gives good effort on defense."

Bold prediction: One of Quickley or RJ will be moved for a “star-ish” player. Explanation is Hart will return and the mid-level will be used on a rotation player, so there will have to be a two-for-one type trade to balance things out.

refuses to ever acknowledge how Thibs' coaching style hurts the team. He's an access pony at this point.

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refuses to ever acknowledge how Thibs' coaching style hurts the team. He's an access pony at this point.

Your thinking of Anthony Donahue, Macri rips Thibs all the time

Can and is willing to play defense. Kid is a wizard at drawing fouls too. He would fit well here if there was some way we could swing signing him but I don’t know how he could fit.

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Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass.

I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY.

They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.

In comment 16122838 ElitoCanton said:

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refuses to ever acknowledge how Thibs' coaching style hurts the team. He's an access pony at this point.

lol ok then

In comment 16122888 Enzo said:

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In comment 16122811 bceagle05 said: Quote: Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass. I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY. They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.

Mitch or Stein would have to go back in the deal I'm sure.

Is probably the most over the top homer in NY sports. That’s his right but he is

In comment 16122888 Enzo said:

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In comment 16122811 bceagle05 said: Quote: Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass. I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY. They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.

Scott Perry traded KP and Scott Perry may well be the one who "noticed" the comments. He's presumably the one who had to deal directly with KP and his brother.

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In comment 16122888 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 16122811 bceagle05 said: Quote: Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass. I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY. They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money. Mitch or Stein would have to go back in the deal I'm sure.

yeah - forgot to add the part about Mitch being part of a trade. But my point remains, KP plus any non rookie contract center is a big investment at that position. And the new CBA makes it harder/punitive to add more high priced players at other spots going forward.

with the KP stuff


Josh Robbins
@JoshuaBRobbins
Michael Winger will be hired as president of Monumental Basketball, giving him oversight over the Wizards, Go-Go & Mystics. And as part of that hire, he'll have full authority to remake the Wizards' roster, even if it's a rebuild. Story at @TheAthleticNBA
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with the KP stuff Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins Michael Winger will be hired as president of Monumental Basketball, giving him oversight over the Wizards, Go-Go & Mystics. And as part of that hire, he'll have full authority to remake the Wizards' roster, even if it's a rebuild. Story at @TheAthleticNBA :

Washington and Toronto are the 2 teams to watch in my opinion, they will both be very actice and i think both will try to sell off to set up for the future

where we take back KP and Beal!!! And Kuzma as well in a separate sign-and-trade just for fun?

In comment 16123008 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 16122964 DanMetroMan said: Quote: with the KP stuff Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins Michael Winger will be hired as president of Monumental Basketball, giving him oversight over the Wizards, Go-Go & Mystics. And as part of that hire, he'll have full authority to remake the Wizards' roster, even if it's a rebuild. Story at @TheAthleticNBA : Washington and Toronto are the 2 teams to watch in my opinion, they will both be very actice and i think both will try to sell off to set up for the future

The real question is how does OG or Siakam fit this team? Obviously Randle would have to go if you bring Siakam in, but is it even that much of an upgrade?

feel like grass is greener on the other side options. I mean Siakim would fit better then randle i think, but i dont think he is really much better of a player then Randle. Same could be said for say OG and RJ. Siakim and OG are good defenders, OG better 3 pt shooter then RJ, so they could fit with say Brunson/RJ or Brunson/Randle better. But with RJ and Randle knick fans have spent 3 years just locked in on what they cant do and magnifying that. Then you look at other players who you dont see 80 times a year and pull up the basketball reference page and we decide they are upgrades. Not to mention that you arent getting either i dont think straight up for say Randle or RJ. So not only might they not be big upgrades, just better fits, but you are giving up more to get them.

Ive been a huge beal fan for awhile, but the trade him ship has sailed for WAS. If they can get someone to take him for free without attaching some assets to him then this new guy should be given an award.

"That 10th pick and a 2027 first-rounder are what the Mavs have left to make deals while they dance with the tax and try to figure out how to stock a deeply flawed roster. Good luck. The Mavs have a lot of contracts that nobody wants and depth issues everywhere as the unforced error of Jalen Brunson’s departure continues to haunt them.

Re-signing Irving would seem to be baked into the plan, presuming the Mavs can keep him away from the Lakers; if not, they gave up two firsts for a rental who led them to the lottery. They at least have a brilliant superstar centerpiece in Dončić, but the whispers are growing louder that the underwhelming supporting cast could ultimately cost the Mavs their best player since Dirk."

from Hollinger


Otherwise, the Bucks’ situation may force them into moving role players (such as one of Grayson Allen, Pat Connaughton or Bobby Portis) just to keep the tax bill manageable. Either way, the fun doesn’t stop here: Holiday can become a free agent in 2024, and Giannis Antetokounmpo can hit the market in 2025.

NBACentral
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Josh Hart’s extension talks with New York are expected to approach $18 million annually, per @JakeLFischer

I still remember the days where we had no players, no picks and no cap space. Dallas may be in for some tougher days but it pales in comparison to the mid to late 2000s with NY. We had NOTHING back then. Worse, we had a bunch of highly paid average players. No lotto hope. No hope period. Just pain.

I can't help shake this feeling that if Boston wins tonight...the Cs are going to be the first team in NBA history to come back from 0-3 series deficit & win the series. Of course, they gotta win tonight & they've sucked at The Garden/Fleet Center/TD Bank North/Whatever the F it is called in '23 these playoffs.

I think Luka is going to be a Heat before too long.

As for Irving, I know LBJ loves him, but Good Lord...the man destroys every place he goes.

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I think Luka is going to be a Heat before too long. As for Irving, I know LBJ loves him, but Good Lord...the man destroys every place he goes.

I really hope not. Him and Pat the Rat would be a pain

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In comment 16122579 DanMetroMan said: Quote: fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen) Knicks are not looking to get into this draft and would never take the step pack of dealing Randle for a rookie. If the Knicks trade Randle, they will want a similarly productive player back.

The Knicks are looking to get into this draft if the opportunity is there

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In comment 16122626 Pete44 said: Quote: In comment 16122579 DanMetroMan said: Quote: fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen) Knicks are not looking to get into this draft and would never take the step pack of dealing Randle for a rookie. If the Knicks trade Randle, they will want a similarly productive player back. The Knicks are looking to get into this draft if the opportunity is there

That's good. I'm guessing Obi will be off the team probably this offseason, so it'll be good to have a player on a rookie scale deal.

The depth at 4 is pretty shaky if Randle ever goes down for an extended period of time as it is.

Obi is traded and they look to try be bring in Naz Reid. You can play him at the 5 with Randle to close games and he can play the 4 when Randle is off the court

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Obi is traded and they look to try be bring in Naz Reid. You can play him at the 5 with Randle to close games and he can play the 4 when Randle is off the court

Naz would be a good addition, he has a much better offensive game then Mitch