As Knick fans, I think we all agree this is another big off season for the overall direction of the franchise. Leon Rose has drafted very well and has done an admirable job positioning the Knicks for long term success. Now the hard part begins, moving the Knicks from good to great.
Rumors abound that Harden goes back to Houston and could that have an impact on Embiid’s relationship with the team. I know there are some who are adamant that he’s not going anywhere but since this is a forum where hypotheticals (fantastical or not) can be discussed, I wanted to ask others what they think a package for Embiid would look like?
Obi, IQ, Grimes, Fournier, Rose + 6 firsts?
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But they’re not going to overpay. I’d expect them to add shooters at the wing and someone like Naz Reid up front and wait for the next star to shake loose. Their eyes on Giannis as the #1 because all the smoke is he’ll leave but that’s still a year or two away.
Macri wrote today that Morey is planning to sell Embid on a 1 year rebuild with $72m in cap space the following year. Also, mentioned Portland as a team to watch if they do trade Embid.
Highly unlikely Embiid ends up in Portland
Obi
RJ Barrett
David Lee
Danillo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
You wouldn't trade that for Embiid? Or Michael Jordan LOL.
Not only that, some of these picks were lottery picks, knicks probably won't have a lottery pick for a little while.
Obi
RJ Barrett
David Lee
Danillo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
You wouldn't trade that for Embiid? Or Michael Jordan LOL.
Not only that, some of these picks were lottery picks, knicks probably won't have a lottery pick for a little while.
agreed never understood why people refuse to trade draft pivks...Currency of hope as Hahn would say
Plenty of other options although not sure about center right this moment.
More than any other position the center spot needs an infusion of talent, especially of the offensive skill set. Where we getting that…
Its a lot, but the saving grace would be that the cap is supposed to skyrocket and the Knicks have no max guys on their roster..
I am not even a big fan of Towns but if it invokves Randle i would ubderstsnd it because Towns fits better next to Brunson
Ditto. I'd rather have KAT than Randle, but that back-ended deal is disgusting. Minnesota would have to eat a large chunk of it in order for me to be interested.
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past the money owed with KAT. Same with Dame and Beal.
Ditto. I'd rather have KAT than Randle, but that back-ended deal is disgusting. Minnesota would have to eat a large chunk of it in order for me to be interested.
If you could do it without having to give up a first and you still have all your assets to add more..its a no brainer it hink
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past the money owed with KAT. Same with Dame and Beal.
Ditto. I'd rather have KAT than Randle, but that back-ended deal is disgusting. Minnesota would have to eat a large chunk of it in order for me to be interested.
teams can't retain money on their books when they trade a player. If the Knicks traded for KAT, 100% of the money hits their cap.
Brunson is "cheap" for only 2 more years and then he's gonna want one of these crazy deals. Same with Randle (lol). That's part of why Mitchel would have made sense. He's locked in on a good deal for 2 years after this as well. Regardless, if and when Rose decides to pay a guy the super max or trade for someone already on it, he needs to be sure it's the right guy.
His offensive skill set is incredibly rare.
Issue would be your 1-5 are liabilities defensively. So you would just need to make sure 2-4 are stout defenders. Grimes fits that bill. You’d have to go and make some additional moves to make sure this roster compliments the Brunson Kat combo
KNicks fans are weird. You have Tierney on WFAN yesterday saying NOPE because his poor little feelings are still hurt about the 2010 "decision."
Of course you go get Lebron. Every single Knicks fan would be giddy the second Lebron strolled on to the court wearing a Knicks uni.
If the cost wasn't too much you do it without a moment's hesitation.
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just sayin...
KNicks fans are weird. You have Tierney on WFAN yesterday saying NOPE because his poor little feelings are still hurt about the 2010 "decision."
Of course you go get Lebron. Every single Knicks fan would be giddy the second Lebron strolled on to the court wearing a Knicks uni.
If the cost wasn't too much you do it without a moment's hesitation.
I wouodnt trade for Lebron at this point, a few years ago, absolutely, but he isnt the guaranteed conference finals anymore..
Wonder if the Front office would consider a move like getting Demarr Derozan on an expiring deal for much cheaper than Embiid would be and try to keep more of the current team intact.
KP has a player option, only realistic way he'll be a Knick is on a sign and trade aka multi-year deal
I dunno. He's an efficient offensive player. I think that the Knicks need efficacy more than anything else. I know it's a simplistic way to look at it, and spacing might be an issue, but maybe the creative offensive coaches on our staff could make the fit work.
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is an excellent player but a pretty poor fit for a Knicks team that needs shooters/players that spread the floor
I dunno. He's an efficient offensive player. I think that the Knicks need efficacy more than anything else. I know it's a simplistic way to look at it, and spacing might be an issue, but maybe the creative offensive coaches on our staff could make the fit work.
Not even trying to be snarky... what creativity did you see from the Knicks vs. Miami that leads you to believe they suddenly will craft a strong offense with another player who does his best damage with the ball and at mid-close range? Brunson was routinely running into excessive traffic because teams could sag against the Knicks.
This I do believe.
If the Knicks loved one of the top 3 and they traded Randle for that 3rd overall pick....I might be ok with this if they landed a good PF in FA to mitigate Randle's departure. That said it would be a huge hole to fill but if you love that 3rd pick/player I would get the move.
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is an excellent player but a pretty poor fit for a Knicks team that needs shooters/players that spread the floor
I dunno. He's an efficient offensive player. I think that the Knicks need efficacy more than anything else. I know it's a simplistic way to look at it, and spacing might be an issue, but maybe the creative offensive coaches on our staff could make the fit work.
Not even trying to be snarky... what creativity did you see from the Knicks vs. Miami that leads you to believe they suddenly will craft a strong offense with another player who does his best damage with the ball and at mid-close range? Brunson was routinely running into excessive traffic because teams could sag against the Knicks.
Sorry, my bad.
I was being sarcastic with the creative minds comment.
I do think that he'd still find his shots here. But it wouldn't have to be him. I was just mentioning him as a lower cost alternative to an ALL IN trade.
"Austin Reaves is the top free agent the Lakers will likely prioritize this summer. The second-year guard is one of the biggest undrafted success stories with a massive leap at the offensive end this season. He is set to become a restricted Early Bird free agent this offseason and the Lakers could have some challenges toward re-signing him.
They are limited to offering him four years, projected at $54 million, the maximum amount a team can re-sign their Early Bird free agents to. Teams with cap space can offer him an offer sheet for more money that, if matched by the Lakers, would have significantly higher cap hits on the backend. The most another team with cap space can offer him is projected at four years, $100.4 million."
"Austin Reaves is the top free agent the Lakers will likely prioritize this summer. The second-year guard is one of the biggest undrafted success stories with a massive leap at the offensive end this season. He is set to become a restricted Early Bird free agent this offseason and the Lakers could have some challenges toward re-signing him.
They are limited to offering him four years, projected at $54 million, the maximum amount a team can re-sign their Early Bird free agents to. Teams with cap space can offer him an offer sheet for more money that, if matched by the Lakers, would have significantly higher cap hits on the backend. The most another team with cap space can offer him is projected at four years, $100.4 million."
He feels like a Spurs kinda player. Or Utah. I can see either of those teams offering him a nice deal with the idea of screwing over the Lakers.
Knicks are not looking to get into this draft and would never take the step pack of dealing Randle for a rookie.
If the Knicks trade Randle, they will want a similarly productive player back.
Reaves is a much better all-around player than Fournier. He does all of the little things. He's a "winning" type of player.
.142 WS/48 this season. Fournier's best ever was .106, career .078
RAPTOR ranked Reaves 21st in the NBA this season, 29th in box score Raptor, 12th in on/of. If the Knicks had space I'd be all over him.
Hoopshype
"Growing into one of the best young guards in the league who is adept at drawing fouls, especially for his age, and can shoot the ball from three or from the midrange. Smooth feel for the game and gives good effort on defense."
Your thinking of Anthony Donahue, Macri rips Thibs all the time
I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY.
They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.
lol ok then