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DaShotel13 : 5/20/2023 9:22 am
As Knick fans, I think we all agree this is another big off season for the overall direction of the franchise. Leon Rose has drafted very well and has done an admirable job positioning the Knicks for long term success. Now the hard part begins, moving the Knicks from good to great.

Rumors abound that Harden goes back to Houston and could that have an impact on Embiid’s relationship with the team. I know there are some who are adamant that he’s not going anywhere but since this is a forum where hypotheticals (fantastical or not) can be discussed, I wanted to ask others what they think a package for Embiid would look like?

Obi, IQ, Grimes, Fournier, Rose + 6 firsts?
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RE: RE: Macri’s doing a little Q&A tonight on YouTube.  
Stu11 : 5/25/2023 9:26 am : link
In comment 16122888 Enzo said:
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Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass.


I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY.

They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.

Mitch or Stein would have to go back in the deal I'm sure.
Anthony Donahue  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2023 10:33 am : link
Is probably the most over the top homer in NY sports. That’s his right but he is
RE: RE: Macri’s doing a little Q&A tonight on YouTube.  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2023 10:35 am : link
In comment 16122888 Enzo said:
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In comment 16122811 bceagle05 said:


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Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass.


I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY.

They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.


Scott Perry traded KP and Scott Perry may well be the one who "noticed" the comments. He's presumably the one who had to deal directly with KP and his brother.
RE: RE: RE: Macri’s doing a little Q&A tonight on YouTube.  
Enzo : 5/25/2023 10:36 am : link
In comment 16122895 Stu11 said:
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In comment 16122888 Enzo said:


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In comment 16122811 bceagle05 said:


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Says KP’s mea culpa interview during the season “didn’t go unnoticed” by Knicks brass.


I guess that's *something*. But this front office obviously wasn't the one that traded him. I do think he really enjoyed playing in NY.

They could trade for him if he opts in and then extend him off of his current deal which would be a big number. But then between him and iHart you have a lot of money committed at center which may not be the best allocation of cap money.


Mitch or Stein would have to go back in the deal I'm sure.

yeah - forgot to add the part about Mitch being part of a trade. But my point remains, KP plus any non rookie contract center is a big investment at that position. And the new CBA makes it harder/punitive to add more high priced players at other spots going forward.
Notable  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2023 10:40 am : link
with the KP stuff


Josh Robbins
@JoshuaBRobbins
Michael Winger will be hired as president of Monumental Basketball, giving him oversight over the Wizards, Go-Go & Mystics. And as part of that hire, he'll have full authority to remake the Wizards' roster, even if it's a rebuild. Story at @TheAthleticNBA
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RE: Notable  
nygiants16 : 5/25/2023 11:13 am : link
In comment 16122964 DanMetroMan said:
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with the KP stuff


Josh Robbins
@JoshuaBRobbins
Michael Winger will be hired as president of Monumental Basketball, giving him oversight over the Wizards, Go-Go & Mystics. And as part of that hire, he'll have full authority to remake the Wizards' roster, even if it's a rebuild. Story at @TheAthleticNBA
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Washington and Toronto are the 2 teams to watch in my opinion, they will both be very actice and i think both will try to sell off to set up for the future
maybe we make a mega trade  
Enzo : 5/25/2023 11:29 am : link
where we take back KP and Beal!!! And Kuzma as well in a separate sign-and-trade just for fun?
RE: RE: Notable  
TommyWiseau : 5/25/2023 11:29 am : link
In comment 16123008 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16122964 DanMetroMan said:


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with the KP stuff


Josh Robbins
@JoshuaBRobbins
Michael Winger will be hired as president of Monumental Basketball, giving him oversight over the Wizards, Go-Go & Mystics. And as part of that hire, he'll have full authority to remake the Wizards' roster, even if it's a rebuild. Story at @TheAthleticNBA
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Washington and Toronto are the 2 teams to watch in my opinion, they will both be very actice and i think both will try to sell off to set up for the future


The real question is how does OG or Siakam fit this team? Obviously Randle would have to go if you bring Siakam in, but is it even that much of an upgrade?
OG and Siakim...  
Italianju : 5/25/2023 11:49 am : link
feel like grass is greener on the other side options. I mean Siakim would fit better then randle i think, but i dont think he is really much better of a player then Randle. Same could be said for say OG and RJ. Siakim and OG are good defenders, OG better 3 pt shooter then RJ, so they could fit with say Brunson/RJ or Brunson/Randle better. But with RJ and Randle knick fans have spent 3 years just locked in on what they cant do and magnifying that. Then you look at other players who you dont see 80 times a year and pull up the basketball reference page and we decide they are upgrades. Not to mention that you arent getting either i dont think straight up for say Randle or RJ. So not only might they not be big upgrades, just better fits, but you are giving up more to get them.

Ive been a huge beal fan for awhile, but the trade him ship has sailed for WAS. If they can get someone to take him for free without attaching some assets to him then this new guy should be given an award.

Hollinger  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2023 12:05 pm : link
"That 10th pick and a 2027 first-rounder are what the Mavs have left to make deals while they dance with the tax and try to figure out how to stock a deeply flawed roster. Good luck. The Mavs have a lot of contracts that nobody wants and depth issues everywhere as the unforced error of Jalen Brunson’s departure continues to haunt them.

Re-signing Irving would seem to be baked into the plan, presuming the Mavs can keep him away from the Lakers; if not, they gave up two firsts for a rental who led them to the lottery. They at least have a brilliant superstar centerpiece in Dončić, but the whispers are growing louder that the underwhelming supporting cast could ultimately cost the Mavs their best player since Dirk."
Also  
DanMetroMan : 5/25/2023 12:08 pm : link
from Hollinger


Otherwise, the Bucks’ situation may force them into moving role players (such as one of Grayson Allen, Pat Connaughton or Bobby Portis) just to keep the tax bill manageable. Either way, the fun doesn’t stop here: Holiday can become a free agent in 2024, and Giannis Antetokounmpo can hit the market in 2025.
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DanMetroMan : 5/25/2023 2:51 pm : link
NBACentral
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Josh Hart’s extension talks with New York are expected to approach $18 million annually, per @JakeLFischer
man  
djm : 5/25/2023 3:24 pm : link
I still remember the days where we had no players, no picks and no cap space. Dallas may be in for some tougher days but it pales in comparison to the mid to late 2000s with NY. We had NOTHING back then. Worse, we had a bunch of highly paid average players. No lotto hope. No hope period. Just pain.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/25/2023 6:58 pm : link
I can't help shake this feeling that if Boston wins tonight...the Cs are going to be the first team in NBA history to come back from 0-3 series deficit & win the series. Of course, they gotta win tonight & they've sucked at The Garden/Fleet Center/TD Bank North/Whatever the F it is called in '23 these playoffs.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/25/2023 7:00 pm : link
I think Luka is going to be a Heat before too long.

As for Irving, I know LBJ loves him, but Good Lord...the man destroys every place he goes.
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TommyWiseau : 5/25/2023 9:43 pm : link
In comment 16123284 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think Luka is going to be a Heat before too long.

As for Irving, I know LBJ loves him, but Good Lord...the man destroys every place he goes.


I really hope not. Him and Pat the Rat would be a pain
RE: RE: I'll  
ajr2456 : 5/25/2023 11:18 pm : link
In comment 16122626 Pete44 said:
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fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen)



Knicks are not looking to get into this draft and would never take the step pack of dealing Randle for a rookie.

If the Knicks trade Randle, they will want a similarly productive player back.


The Knicks are looking to get into this draft if the opportunity is there
RE: RE: RE: I'll  
Jan in DC : 5/26/2023 11:24 am : link
In comment 16123414 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 16122579 DanMetroMan said:


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fantasize about Randle to Portland until they make a trade for another player (which is going to happen)



Knicks are not looking to get into this draft and would never take the step pack of dealing Randle for a rookie.

If the Knicks trade Randle, they will want a similarly productive player back.



The Knicks are looking to get into this draft if the opportunity is there


That's good. I'm guessing Obi will be off the team probably this offseason, so it'll be good to have a player on a rookie scale deal.

The depth at 4 is pretty shaky if Randle ever goes down for an extended period of time as it is.
I think there’s a possibility  
ajr2456 : 5/26/2023 2:23 pm : link
Obi is traded and they look to try be bring in Naz Reid. You can play him at the 5 with Randle to close games and he can play the 4 when Randle is off the court
RE: I think there’s a possibility  
TommyWiseau : 5/28/2023 10:39 am : link
In comment 16123771 ajr2456 said:
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Obi is traded and they look to try be bring in Naz Reid. You can play him at the 5 with Randle to close games and he can play the 4 when Randle is off the court


Naz would be a good addition, he has a much better offensive game then Mitch
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