And the events that led to Thomas improving game by game from then on.
If I remember rightly, he looked completely out of sorts, off balance often, just not looking right somehow and was starting to be considered a complete bust.
Then there was a situation with the Giants staff which resulted in the OL coach ex-cowboys being fired and an altercation reported.
Judge brought somebody in and also got involved himself with the O line at at that point there was a change in Thomas, he started to look more assured, and the sacks and pressures coming from the left tackle started to drop.
Was this because Thomas was being poorly coached ? or being forced to change his techniques from what made him a first round pick, and after the changes he just had no confidence in his abilities.
What exactly led to the fairly rapid change, and now considered a top 3 left tackle in the league.
I had always liked him and really rooted for him and really happy that he is now such a solid reliable bookend for Jones
Cheers
G.
This adjustment takes time.
I also believe he had several nagging injuries with his foot.
He had some bad technique that needed to be corrected. So young guy, some poor technique, bad ankle, learning on the job.
He did get better coaching, but the guy worked his butt off and persevered through the off season after surgery and improved enough that his natural ability took over.
I'm a little foggy on it, too, but that was part of what had people starting to believe in Judge, because it coincided with Thomas turning things around and the team as a whole began to play better. Thus the optimism heading into Judge's second year with the team.
For the latest discussion about this, I suggest the Bobby Johnson video that was recently posted.
This plus ankle
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Is hearing they let him go back to the techniques he used in college, at least for a while his rookie year and that stabilized him. Then he did a lot of work that first off season with a coach.
This plus ankle
Plus playing with hernandez next to him didn't help
Andrew Thomas level? No, pretty solid second year lineman- yes.
I'm a little foggy on it, too, but that was part of what had people starting to believe in Judge, because it coincided with Thomas turning things around and the team as a whole began to play better. Thus the optimism heading into Judge's second year with the team.
No doubt that Colombo was responsible for messing Thomas up and clearly Thomas was the focus of the fight (?) between Colombo and Judge. I did not remember Flaherty taking over but I do remember Dave deG coming in and stabilizing the situation. Dave is an ornery guy and it was no surprise that he didn’t stay around for another season so Judge brought in Rob Sale, another college “teacher” who had little success.
I'm sure it's many of The same people were the ones who labeled Thomas a bust too. So many OL experts here. Huge bonus for BBI. God
No question Neal struggled mightily last year. Just go back and read Sy's game reviews if you don't believe me. I'll give him another year before I hit the panic button, though.
I'm sure it's many of The same people were the ones who labeled Thomas a bust too. So many OL experts here. Huge bonus for BBI. God
You have a life size Neal wall poster don’t you? ;)
Didn't Neal play RT his sophomore year? It isn't a completely new position for him.
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I pointed out concerns with Neal last season before game 3, which only got worse during the season. Those whom wall posters of Neal in spandex got all torn asunder and labeled me a heretic lol. Neal has some legit technique issues which go beyond the rookie learning curve. Yes he was injured. Yes he’s a rookie, yes he wants to learn a new OL position at RT unlike Flowers who was in coachable. Yada yada yada. Neal is 6’7” and winds up face down on the ground at an alarming rate. We should be concerned. I am rooting for him.
Didn't Neal play RT his sophomore year? It isn't a completely new position for him.
Yes Neal did play a year at RT. I was being generous in my assessment of his assessment. My biggest issue isn’t he performed like a rookie, it’s that he constantly winds up face down on the ground…..a lot. For a 6’7” tackle, that’s not a good thing.
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I pointed out concerns with Neal last season before game 3, which only got worse during the season. Those whom wall posters of Neal in spandex got all torn asunder and labeled me a heretic lol. Neal has some legit technique issues which go beyond the rookie learning curve. Yes he was injured. Yes he’s a rookie, yes he wants to learn a new OL position at RT unlike Flowers who was in coachable. Yada yada yada. Neal is 6’7” and winds up face down on the ground at an alarming rate. We should be concerned. I am rooting for him.
Didn't Neal play RT his sophomore year? It isn't a completely new position for him.
Yes Neal did play a year at RT. I was being generous in my assessment of his assessment. My biggest issue isn’t he performed like a rookie, it’s that he constantly winds up face down on the ground…..a lot. For a 6’7” tackle, that’s not a good thing.
I'm a senior, and there are balance classes given in my community. I'm pretty sure that's something he can train for.