Let's chit chat here and keep everything on this thread for both games today. Here are the starting pitcher matchups for both games followed by the starting lineups for both clubs for Game #1:
Eric on LI made a good point on if Buck will play them both or not later. It's also a good opportunity to rest Pete at 1B. Who will he play in both games? Questions, questions...
if ever there was a time to do it this is kind of it. the mets were great in DH'ers last year, they have scherzer/jv on the mound, day off yesterday, depth with the young guys to have fresh lineups both games.
they havent had a real winning streak all year so now would be a really good time for that.
if ever there was a time to do it this is kind of it. the mets were great in DH'ers last year, they have scherzer/jv on the mound, day off yesterday, depth with the young guys to have fresh lineups both games.
they havent had a real winning streak all year so now would be a really good time for that.
The Mets have a day off tomorrow too, so they also have that to their advantage. a little urgency form Buck here would be nice. These aren't throw-away/evaluation games as Buck might think.
would be great to know what we have with him before the deadline.
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Jose Quintana threw a bullpen session yesterday. Said it went well and that Quintana was “excited” with the results. #Mets
When will he back again? July or August, as originally reported? Maybe in a month now that things seem to be going well? Wouldn't it be great if he could replace Cookie in the starting rotation to boot?
I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
RE: RE: The back half of the lineup is a complete loss.
I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
I’d say that, yes, this is another one of Eppler’s unimaginative moves. Poor defensive catcher and poor offensive player (unless they are “hoping” that Sanchez will hit like he did - sometimes - years ago). But for a part time, back up type of catcher, we already have those.
My issue is with him being on the roster after this game. If he takes a single at bat away from Baty/Vientos then it will just further cement how out of touch and bad Eppler/Buck are.
RE: RE: RE: The back half of the lineup is a complete loss.
I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
I’d say that, yes, this is another one of Eppler’s unimaginative moves. Poor defensive catcher and poor offensive player (unless they are “hoping” that Sanchez will hit like he did - sometimes - years ago). But for a part time, back up type of catcher, we already have those.
My issue is with him being on the roster after this game. If he takes a single at bat away from Baty/Vientos then it will just further cement how out of touch and bad Eppler/Buck are.
You aren’t having Alvarez catch both games of the doubleheader and Scherzer needs less hand holding from a defensive specialist
he swung at a ball a little out of the zone aggressively and almost got it (89mph exit velo). it was a ball he can/probably should hit out but at least he tried. id imagine a fraction closer to the barrel and it's a 95mph+ 3 run homer.
he's either going to need to learn to get more aggressive and look to do more damage or park himself on the bench as a pinch hitter.
I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
Has to be. Probably knows him from when he was still with Yanks possibly?
RE: RE: RE: The back half of the lineup is a complete loss.
I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
Has to be. Probably knows him from when he was still with Yanks possibly?
I was thinking the same regarding their Prisonstriper's connection.
eppler was hired by yankees in 2004 and left after the 2015 season so they crossed over for almost a decade probably from whenever the yankees started scouting him before signing him.
RE: sanchez got $3m as an IFA from yankees in 2009
eppler was hired by yankees in 2004 and left after the 2015 season so they crossed over for almost a decade probably from whenever the yankees started scouting him before signing him.
Thanks Eric. Who's quicker on the info draw? You or Dan? lol
Gary said something to the effect Sanchez has an elite arm in throwing runners out, which reads to me as the deterrent to keep guys like straw, kwan and Rosario from stealing. And adds pop. Makes sense to me.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
I would and would love to do it with you big mouth. The one who comes on here and bitches the most is you. Nobody on these threads likes you. I don't appreciate threats either. Love to meet you and teach a lesson some time. Get off of our threads if you can't behave.
RE: RE: sanchez got $3m as an IFA from yankees in 2009
eppler was hired by yankees in 2004 and left after the 2015 season so they crossed over for almost a decade probably from whenever the yankees started scouting him before signing him.
Thanks Eric. Who's quicker on the info draw? You or Dan? lol
he and guillorme performing well over the next few weeks would really give them a lot of options as they prepare for the deadline.
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David Peterson today for Triple-A Syracuse:
8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 9 K
Wow! Great news indeed. Good point about the Mets now moving towards deadline mode. Can teams trade players they sign as free agents the previous offseason at any time Eric, or is that old June 15th rule regarding that situation still in effect?
so historically with a slow runner, the odds of getting that run home were right on the borderline.
sanchez hit the ball 79mph
escobar hit the ball 63mph
2 pretty unimpressive at bats. they had to get 1 run across but obviously a big hit would have been better because then maybe you could have saved at least 1 of raley/otto/robertson for later.
mets have 7 hard hit balls today, all from the top 6 of the order. none from vogey, sanchez, escobar.
Last night. P Sandoval had some bad luck but I wonder if he would be an option at deadline if they fall out of it, lefty with a few years left of control but there’s Eppler ties too
Always liked him. Just a thought
there's the 8th hard hit ball of the day for the mets (108.8mph)
has generally looked pretty good out there. Strong arm too. Same with Vientos the other game. Between those two and the hand-wringing over Conforto’s “lack of defense” reports when he was in the minors…I don’t believe what any of these guys say anymore. The reports about defense are so wrong more times than not.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
I would and would love to do it with you big mouth. The one who comes on here and bitches the most is you. Nobody on these threads likes you. I don't appreciate threats either. Love to meet you and teach a lesson some time. Get off of our threads if you can't behave.
Right. Be home in august, I’ll be sure to remind you.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
I would and would love to do it with you big mouth. The one who comes on here and bitches the most is you. Nobody on these threads likes you. I don't appreciate threats either. Love to meet you and teach a lesson some time. Get off of our threads if you can't behave.
Right. Be home in august, I’ll be sure to remind you.
If I'm on Long Island come through to CitField beeyoch. Upstate hillbilly.
downside to this one is that we're burning the pen
as a justification to knock "the kids". Martino's value is in his access, not his opinions, but it's somewhat troubling if he is articulating a sentiment coming from within the building.
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Andy Martino @martinonyc
Huge hits lately for Lindor, Marte, Alonso. McNeil has been much better. Team was going nowhere with its veteran stars, and now those stars have started to carry them.
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
It’s up to the likes of Francisco Lindor, Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil to turn around the Mets offense. The talent is already on the roster. There are role players, not saviors, on the farm.
whether or not the young guys are "saviors" is a ridiculous strawman. they dont need to be saviors to be better than the players who are not part of the core and constantly failing to deliver run production - including in this game. the stars didn't carry baty to his 2 walks today or his 104 mph single.
also the cherry on top is that vientos/alvarez were actually literal saviors in the rays series that was 100% a lost series and possibly a sweep without them.
as a justification to knock "the kids". Martino's value is in his access, not his opinions, but it's somewhat troubling if he is articulating a sentiment coming from within the building.
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Andy Martino @martinonyc
Huge hits lately for Lindor, Marte, Alonso. McNeil has been much better. Team was going nowhere with its veteran stars, and now those stars have started to carry them.
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
It’s up to the likes of Francisco Lindor, Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil to turn around the Mets offense. The talent is already on the roster. There are role players, not saviors, on the farm.
whether or not the young guys are "saviors" is a ridiculous strawman. they dont need to be saviors to be better than the players who are not part of the core and constantly failing to deliver run production - including in this game. the stars didn't carry baty to his 2 walks today or his 104 mph single.
also the cherry on top is that vientos/alvarez were actually literal saviors in the rays series that was 100% a lost series and possibly a sweep without them.
These quotes from Martino piss me off so much. That combined with Buck’s clear dislike of young players and Eppler’s mythical boxes that need to be checked…makes me want them all gone. None of it makes any sense. Arrogant, egotistical, stubborn FO and manager. Just put the best players on the field. It really isnt that difficult.
RE: it's odd to me that writers are using the success of mets core
as a justification to knock "the kids". Martino's value is in his access, not his opinions, but it's somewhat troubling if he is articulating a sentiment coming from within the building.
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Andy Martino @martinonyc
Huge hits lately for Lindor, Marte, Alonso. McNeil has been much better. Team was going nowhere with its veteran stars, and now those stars have started to carry them.
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
It’s up to the likes of Francisco Lindor, Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil to turn around the Mets offense. The talent is already on the roster. There are role players, not saviors, on the farm.
whether or not the young guys are "saviors" is a ridiculous strawman. they dont need to be saviors to be better than the players who are not part of the core and constantly failing to deliver run production - including in this game. the stars didn't carry baty to his 2 walks today or his 104 mph single.
also the cherry on top is that vientos/alvarez were actually literal saviors in the rays series that was 100% a lost series and possibly a sweep without them.
Wow. Great post Eric. That is disturbing. Uncle Steve might need to step in here if that's really the case.
RE: RE: it's odd to me that writers are using the success of mets core
These quotes from Martino piss me off so much. That combined with Buck’s clear dislike of young players and Eppler’s mythical boxes that need to be checked…makes me want them all gone. None of it makes any sense. Arrogant, egotistical, stubborn FO and manager. Just put the best players on the field. It really isnt that difficult.
Spot on Coop. Classic case of stubbornness and egotism (and insecurity on Eppler's part IMO).
Scherzer's is now too. The second game will begin on ESPN in a little less than two and a half hours. If I'm around, I'll post the lineups for the nightcap of today's doubleheader, otherwise I'm sure someone else will.
Scherzer talked about the following when he spoke to the press:
-His thumb callous split open (it was already there from before).
-It's something to keep an eye on. He said it opened up during the DC start (his words).
-He said he'll be good to go for his next start.
-He basically is saying that he sucked it up, pitched and won.
-Was amped to see Marte's homer.
-Says everyone is jacked up now the way they're playing.
-Thought working with Sanchez was good today; he thought they worked well for neither one of them having experience working together.
-Said being creative is mixing speeds and being irrational.
they actually had a lot of hard contact against bieber so despite feeling like they stole it they earned this one.
i know marte is heating up and thats big, but id keep mcneil #3 and marte #6. teams cant pitch around baty as easily with a career .300 hitter behind him and with actual power now hitting 7/8/9 it's almost like a mid-order leadoff hitter.
oddly my biggest concern is whats been the best unit on the team the bp. with more leads there are going to be more games like the last 5 where we had to pitch a lot of the same guys every day. not sure theres a solution right now though. have to get lucky w/ someone for a month.
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-The Mets now hold a wild card spot (the 6th and final one)!
-They're half a game ahead of the Marlins after having started the day behind them. HUGE day today for the Mets!
oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
i was a 100% buck guy and through 4 months last year i would have named him the team's mvp. i thought his BP usage in particular was best ive seen of any manager up until september.
but there was a game last year in august i think where they were down and with the final out he let nido hit i think instead of pinch hitting mcneil and after the game he got very snippy when questioned about it. since august of last year he has left a lot to be desired. he has made a lot of bizarre comments about the young guys, he's been a lot more defensive as he's taken criticism, and his bp usage down the stretch last year was weird against those bad teams when he let 1-2 run games get out of hand and all the best relievers were well rested going sometimes a week between getting in games.
i buy that there are probably some real internal frustrations with him because he has done some real backwards things since august. including some of the comments that came out over the last several days that seem intent on ignoring the reality that the key driver of this win streak was the kids. they've contributed like 11 runs over a winning streak of all 1 run games.
Mendick 1-5, K (he's been disappointing, 79 wRC+ on the season)
Mauricio 1-5, 2b, K
Cedrola 1-4, K
Peterson 8 innings 2 hits 0 runs 3 runs 9 k's relevant note from @jeffpaternostro "Jeffrey Paternostro
@jeffpaternostro
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19h
Peterson threw his change less than even his curve and got big slider whiff and chase by throwing it in the zone less. It’s Triple-A but it’s also closer to an actual blueprint."
Hartwig 1 inning 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 1 k (Very rough month so far for Hartwig 5.1 innings 11 hits 8 runs 12.71 era)
AA game 1
Rudick 1-4, BB, SB, (also threw out a runner at home) really incredible start to the season for a guy who wasn't on "anybodies" radar despite an extensive history of hitting at a high level
Young 2-3, BB, SB, K
Peroza 2-4, BB, 2 k
AA game 2
Rudick 1-2, 2 BB (.307/.451/.518, 27 walks, 21 k's and is now a career 29/35 stealing bases as well)
Hamel 3 perfect 4 k's (haven't seen anything to suggest this was anything but a short outing by design) 21 k's vs. 1 walk in May.. 5.89 era, baseball is weird #Mets
BK game 1
Ramirez 0-2, 2 BB, K
Consuegra 0-4, K (cooled off considerably in May .636 OPS)
Lugo 0-4, K
Parada 1-3, K (0/3 throwing)
Beck 0.2 innings 1 K (11.2 innings 24 k's)
Stuart 6.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's (left with hand issue. Era down to 1.13. He's been a sleeper for me since draft time. Low mileage, huge frame. 7th best FIP in
the organization (30+ innings) since being drafted)
BK game 2
Ramirez 1-4, 2B, 2 k's
Parada 1-3, 2 k's
Scott 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's (has quietly been one of the organizations best performers since draft day. RP convert)
Juarez 2 perfect 3 k's (Juarez has yet to allow a run over 15.2 innings to begin his season. Big league RPer)
St. Lucie
Lara 0-3, BB, K
Jett 0-2, SB, 2 BB (Funky stat line.. hitting .207... with a .409 OBP. Some suggestion he's overly selective. Near the top of the league in key cats for his age)
out of curiosity, is there anybody on here that would support sending Alvarez down? I'm shocked how often I'm seeing this bandied about. I understand wanting to keep depth.. if the depth is GOOD! I think it would be lunacy to send down Alvarez and send a terrible message to the young players. 162 wRC+ over the last 30 days and his defense is already looking far better than people expected.
out of curiosity, is there anybody on here that would support sending Alvarez down? I'm shocked how often I'm seeing this bandied about. I understand wanting to keep depth.. if the depth is GOOD! I think it would be lunacy to send down Alvarez and send a terrible message to the young players. 162 wRC+ over the last 30 days and his defense is already looking far better than people expected.
out of curiosity, is there anybody on here that would support sending Alvarez down? I'm shocked how often I'm seeing this bandied about. I understand wanting to keep depth.. if the depth is GOOD! I think it would be lunacy to send down Alvarez and send a terrible message to the young players. 162 wRC+ over the last 30 days and his defense is already looking far better than people expected.
i was fine with it/expecting it a week ago but you can't anymore. perez is a good 3rd catcher if nido gets claimed by someone, though more ideally his vision will get a little blurry again when narvaez is healthy and he'll take a trip to the IL.
alvarez has hit more homers than nidos best year and his defense has been very good. over 20 games if alvarez wins you 1 over nido bc of a homer he hits then that's not only the right answer but the only one. his ops is closing in on .800, his rc is 114, and by fwar he's already the 13th best catcher in mlb with 50 less at bats than pretty much everyone ahead of him.
sanchez would have to go on some kind of crazy run in the next 2 weeks to get any consideration and even if he does, it has to be at the expense of narvaez or nido.
Man, Christian Scott has a funky stat line- Since 2022 70.1 innings 2.71 FIP (2nd in the organization) .376 BABIP... .376!, 11.3 K/9
I hate to buy into micro sample sizes but Dominic Hamel's first 3 starts 11.1 innings 11 walks. Dominic Hamel's 5 starts since then 22.2 innings 3 walks
but I would be furious if Alvarez is ever sent down. Alvarez with Narvaez backing up. Perez in AAA. Sanchez/Nido will have to be DFAed if all healthy. Sucks, but is what it is. Hopefully, at least one goes unclaimed
Would make absolutely no sense to send Alvarez down when the other 2 guys get healthy. I can't believe it's even being suggested. When Olney said it last night I just assumed he was saying something moronic and not a reflection of organizational thinking.
oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
Music to my ears. I was watching a 5-year-old video fortuitously enough yesterday on YouTube with Buck and Jayson Stark in which Buck was talking about accountability (click below to see). His ego is getting in the way of winning now due to his inclination to not playing these kids. This job isn't a lifetime appointment, or even guaranteed through this year. Glad to hear this.
P.S. I have a lot of respect for Buck, but his blind spot will wind up costing him.
out of curiosity, is there anybody on here that would support sending Alvarez down? I'm shocked how often I'm seeing this bandied about. I understand wanting to keep depth.. if the depth is GOOD! I think it would be lunacy to send down Alvarez and send a terrible message to the young players. 162 wRC+ over the last 30 days and his defense is already looking far better than people expected.
Would any of us be surprised to see them do this though (Buck and Eppler)? That's the thing that is baffling.
Would make absolutely no sense to send Alvarez down when the other 2 guys get healthy. I can't believe it's even being suggested. When Olney said it last night I just assumed he was saying something moronic and not a reflection of organizational thinking.
I remember that clearly. I was assuming he got it from someone in the organization., or would you guys disagree?
I'm very impressed lately with Alvarez's defense. His throwing seems markedly improved. And I love the way he takes charge of plays at the plate....the other night he threw out a runner trying to advance to second base on an outfielder's throw to the plate. The run had scored, but Alvy gunned down the advancing runner to keep him out of scoring position. His pitch framing seems to have improved also.
Last night he got hit in the head by a batter's backswing. He jumped right up and was ready for the next play......Beast !!
oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
i was a 100% buck guy and through 4 months last year i would have named him the team's mvp. i thought his BP usage in particular was best ive seen of any manager up until september.
but there was a game last year in august i think where they were down and with the final out he let nido hit i think instead of pinch hitting mcneil and after the game he got very snippy when questioned about it. since august of last year he has left a lot to be desired. he has made a lot of bizarre comments about the young guys, he's been a lot more defensive as he's taken criticism, and his bp usage down the stretch last year was weird against those bad teams when he let 1-2 run games get out of hand and all the best relievers were well rested going sometimes a week between getting in games.
i buy that there are probably some real internal frustrations with him because he has done some real backwards things since august. including some of the comments that came out over the last several days that seem intent on ignoring the reality that the key driver of this win streak was the kids. they've contributed like 11 runs over a winning streak of all 1 run games.
I think Buck brought of a level of professionalism to the Mets job they didn't have in a while but I also think his greatest downfall is developing young talent at the major league level. These kids clearly have impact talent and are a significant reason for the turnaround. They need to be out there everyday and work through slumps. I think there's something to the fact that Buck is the guy before the guy who wins a WS. Do the 90's yankees develop into the dynasty with Buck? I don't know.
Would make absolutely no sense to send Alvarez down when the other 2 guys get healthy. I can't believe it's even being suggested. When Olney said it last night I just assumed he was saying something moronic and not a reflection of organizational thinking.
I remember that clearly. I was assuming he got it from someone in the organization., or would you guys disagree?
Maybe I should say hoping it wasn't a reflection of org thinking.
Would make absolutely no sense to send Alvarez down when the other 2 guys get healthy. I can't believe it's even being suggested. When Olney said it last night I just assumed he was saying something moronic and not a reflection of organizational thinking.
I remember that clearly. I was assuming he got it from someone in the organization., or would you guys disagree?
He's not the only one to suggest it may happen, in fact Laura Albanese wrote a piece had a piece arguing against it from Saturday aka I don't know that it's what they will actually do but there seems to be "more there" than just Buster being Buster. Link - ( New Window )
the "who cares?" division... "The Baby Mets" doesn't exactly roll of your tongue. It obviously doesn't make a difference but too bad that's what apparently has stuck lol
the "who cares?" division... "The Baby Mets" doesn't exactly roll of your tongue. It obviously doesn't make a difference but too bad that's what apparently has stuck lol
The fans refer to them as the Kids. Baby Mets is a little weird. Taking it a step further, those guys are Grade-A level talents who are all only a few years younger than some of these guys (Lindor, Alonso, and McNeil who are 29, 28, & 31 respectively).
Vientos is 23, Alvarez is 21, & Baty is 23. These guys are the young core of the team now and going forward, not babies.
I'm very impressed lately with Alvarez's defense. His throwing seems markedly improved. And I love the way he takes charge of plays at the plate....the other night he threw out a runner trying to advance to second base on an outfielder's throw to the plate. The run had scored, but Alvy gunned down the advancing runner to keep him out of scoring position. His pitch framing seems to have improved also.
Last night he got hit in the head by a batter's backswing. He jumped right up and was ready for the next play......Beast !!
oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
Music to my ears. I was watching a 5-year-old video fortuitously enough yesterday on YouTube with Buck and Jayson Stark in which Buck was talking about accountability (click below to see). His ego is getting in the way of winning now due to his inclination to not playing these kids. This job isn't a lifetime appointment, or even guaranteed through this year. Glad to hear this.
P.S. I have a lot of respect for Buck, but his blind spot will wind up costing him.
Baseball Stories - Ep. 5 Buck Showalter (3:18 mark) - ( New Window )
If Buck does not make the playoffs, he is very likely gone.
To stay, if Mets miss playoffs, he would need extenuating circumstances, such as Scherzer and Pete out for season. And even then he would still need to be competitive.
Barring a total collapse, Eppler is probably safe because Cohen needs him to handle the Ohtani pursuit.
in the month of May: .968 OPS; .271 Avg, 4 HR, 9 RBI
over the last 15 days: 1st among all starting catchers in HR, RBI, XBH, and OPS. He's a stud. I was all-in on him, having him in all of my dynasty leagues. He is exceeding my wildest expectations. Still only 21. At that age, Alonso was in low-A ball.
I hope by next year, the Mets start doing some Braves like deals to get these kids locked up
Hundley has the Mets record for HRs as a C with 41
the Mets make the playoffs, Buck will be back (and almost certainly be offered an extension) a lameduck manager in NY is exceedingly rare and with Cohen's money he'd presumably understand he *likely* would have to eat some. Obviously, it's worth monitoring Stearns/Counsell as a potential combo platter.
Carrasco looks fully shot. I'd love to be wrong and I would still give him a look out of the pen (he's done it before so it's not outlandish) Peterson looking like 2022 Peterson would be huge. Not ready to say he's there after one strong start but a month from now? Fingers crossed. Vasil might even be on the radar come August.
Carrasco looks fully shot. I'd love to be wrong and I would still give him a look out of the pen (he's done it before so it's not outlandish) Peterson looking like 2022 Peterson would be huge. Not ready to say he's there after one strong start but a month from now? Fingers crossed. Vasil might even be on the radar come August.
im just hoping carrasco and megill can give them 1 month of solid starts.
like you said by then maybe peterson and vasil are ready at least as depth options.
i think they will probably be shopping for a starter even though there arent that many appealing options out there. giolito + hendriks is really the only interesting package i can come up with at this point. trevor williams would be an interesting depth pickup since we know he can flex between rotation and bp.
see why the A's are going to sell low on a cheap player but I like JP Sears as a guy who could really breakout. 9.43 K/9, 1.85 BB/9. HR ball has killed him but he's never had issues with the HR before. I find him to be intriguing. Not saying really for the Mets but don't be surprised if he breaks out.
see why the A's are going to sell low on a cheap player but I like JP Sears as a guy who could really breakout. 9.43 K/9, 1.85 BB/9. HR ball has killed him but he's never had issues with the HR before. I find him to be intriguing. Not saying really for the Mets but don't be surprised if he breaks out.
yeah the issue there is you are paying for a lot of controllable service time. he's likely attainable though. cant imagine his trade value is much different than a megill or peterson.
Carrasco looks fully shot. I'd love to be wrong and I would still give him a look out of the pen (he's done it before so it's not outlandish) Peterson looking like 2022 Peterson would be huge. Not ready to say he's there after one strong start but a month from now? Fingers crossed. Vasil might even be on the radar come August.
71.1 innings last year for Vasil; 81.2 in college and 7 in the pros the year before. That's something to watch with him. My guess is he is more likely in the pen if he is called up that late.
see why the A's are going to sell low on a cheap player but I like JP Sears as a guy who could really breakout. 9.43 K/9, 1.85 BB/9. HR ball has killed him but he's never had issues with the HR before. I find him to be intriguing. Not saying really for the Mets but don't be surprised if he breaks out.
yeah the issue there is you are paying for a lot of controllable service time. he's likely attainable though. cant imagine his trade value is much different than a megill or peterson.
I just personally think there is something there. The numbers are decent (not outstanding). Admittedly, I found this article only after already finding him intriguing but it's a pretty good read and why he might be somebody to targer. Link - ( New Window )
site basically created a metric for grading specific pitches and they have Sears slider as the 8th best in baseball in 2023 and his fastball PLV 13th. Granted, this all comes together for a guy with meh overall numbers but a slightly deeper dive you'll see he has 3 starts with 7+ k's including 11 vs. Texas (most runs in baseball) and of his 9 starts he's allowed 4 or less runs 7 times, 3 or less 6 times. That's the end of the JP Sears hour, just randomly was looking at some P on bad teams and he caught my eye.
the Mets make the playoffs, Buck will be back (and almost certainly be offered an extension) a lameduck manager in NY is exceedingly rare and with Cohen's money he'd presumably understand he *likely* would have to eat some. Obviously, it's worth monitoring Stearns/Counsell as a potential combo platter.
I'll take a combo of Stearns/Counsell in a heartbeat next season. Eppler can hang around until they sign Ohtani. Buck can go fishing.
Sanchez to LAA (they thought they were close to a deal with him before he signed with the Mets) or Nido for "The Human Glitch". He's been awful this season (and demoted) but 2021-2022 67 appearances 2.83 FIP, 2 options left
Miami has the worst C production in baseball in 2023. Nido, @mets
are very thin in the OF.... Nido for Jake Mangum
Sanchez to LAA (they thought they were close to a deal with him before he signed with the Mets) or Nido for "The Human Glitch". He's been awful this season (and demoted) but 2021-2022 67 appearances 2.83 FIP, 2 options left
Miami has the worst C production in baseball in 2023. Nido, @mets
are very thin in the OF.... Nido for Jake Mangum
I'd do Nidon't for Jake Mangum in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd drive him to LaGuardia!
Certainly not crying over Nate Fisher (and maybe he wanted to join a team he felt he had a better shot) but he's having a decent season with Charlotte (3.83 era/4.42 FIP, 9.0 K/9) probably would have been in the mix for starts when @mets
were scrambling for SP
And speaking of Angels RP's, I'd be interested in Tepera on a minor league deal with an opt-out. Hartwig has struggled, Orze has struggled, wouldn't be a terrible grab.
the Mets make the playoffs, Buck will be back (and almost certainly be offered an extension) a lameduck manager in NY is exceedingly rare and with Cohen's money he'd presumably understand he *likely* would have to eat some. Obviously, it's worth monitoring Stearns/Counsell as a potential combo platter.
I haven't been following but is the Stearns thing happening or just rumors and dot-connecting?
the Mets make the playoffs, Buck will be back (and almost certainly be offered an extension) a lameduck manager in NY is exceedingly rare and with Cohen's money he'd presumably understand he *likely* would have to eat some. Obviously, it's worth monitoring Stearns/Counsell as a potential combo platter.
I haven't been following but is the Stearns thing happening or just rumors and dot-connecting?
Nightengale claimed he’s heard it’s going to happen from a “source”. Keep in mind while he’s a “top” baseball writer he’s well known for getting stories wrong to the point most tweets of his have people essentially saying “so the opposite”…. We know the Mets were interested in the past and that he’ll be a FA after the WS (he’s also friendly/friends with Eppler) and previously worked for the Mets. His wife apparently preferred Houston before this season but who knows?
How public Alvarez pending “demotion” is??
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
I think the question should be who doesn't find it strange? Cohen needs to step in because left to their druthers, Buck and Eppler would send Alvarez down to protect their pet vets.
It seems to me we never would've gotten to enjoy Alonso's
Pal Buster Olney is in favor of sending Alvarez down.
“ Who said the stats call for demotion?
They have two veteran catchers who they value and intend to play. The priority is to play Alvarez to help him get better defensive”
My response to Buster on twitter…
Buster… all due respect.. he’s 89th percentile framing, 63rd % pop time, 8th in the league in blocks above average. The data does not support the narrative. I’m sure you’ll cite “private” data teams are privy to but c’mon…
Adding to that… is the baseline now gold glove or bust? Even the eye test says he’s been very solid defensively
RE: It seems to me we never would've gotten to enjoy Alonso's
Pal Buster Olney is in favor of sending Alvarez down.
“ Who said the stats call for demotion?
They have two veteran catchers who they value and intend to play. The priority is to play Alvarez to help him get better defensive”
My response to Buster on twitter…
Buster… all due respect.. he’s 89th percentile framing, 63rd % pop time, 8th in the league in blocks above average. The data does not support the narrative. I’m sure you’ll cite “private” data teams are privy to but c’mon…
Adding to that… is the baseline now gold glove or bust? Even the eye test says he’s been very solid defensively
NICE! Thank you Dan for shutting that shill down. IF Buck is using the media to make this a me vs. them narrative, then I'm sorry, he needs to go. The priority needs to be on winning. Did Buster respond Dan?
his amigos in the media (e.g., Martino and Buster). I read your post about on Twitter Dan and it made total sense. The Rosenthal story makes even more sense now.
the Mets would be entitled to an extra pick if Alvarez were to get ROY. (there are no exceptions to teams with a certain payroll, are there?)
So, not only would it be ridiculously stupid from a baseball perspective to send Alvarez down, it would be from a team building perspective. Outman has fallen back down to earth a bit. Alvarez has a .7 WAR to his 1.0 WAR, despite playing less than 60% the amount of games. Corbin Carroll is the obvious leader, with a 1.5 WAR, but things happen. Injuries happen.
Alvarez has been the 2nd best hitting catcher in baseball over the past 30 days.
A position where the Mets had been among the worst before he was called up.
If it's about winning games this should not even be a discussion.
If someone has to tell the Mets front office to keep him up for the remote chance to get a 1st round comp pick or even an INTL pick or conversely to send Alvarez down so the Mets can shop the AAAA catchers to maybe get something back in return for them in a trade instead of cutting them - then the Mets front office is run by morons.
Coming off a season where the Mets lost the division by percentage points, messing around with this stuff for no good reason is why it will happen again. May wins count.
Alvarez has been the 2nd best hitting catcher in baseball over the past 30 days.
A position where the Mets had been among the worst before he was called up.
If it's about winning games this should not even be a discussion.
If someone has to tell the Mets front office to keep him up for the remote chance to get a 1st round comp pick or even an INTL pick or conversely to send Alvarez down so the Mets can shop the AAAA catchers to maybe get something back in return for them in a trade instead of cutting them - then the Mets front office is run by morons.
Coming off a season where the Mets lost the division by percentage points, messing around with this stuff for no good reason is why it will happen again. May wins count.
Agreed 100%. My point was not only that it makes zero sense baseball wise to send Alvarez, but baseball is now incentivizing teams to keep young guys up. The Mets obviously shouldn't have to be incentivized to keep up one of the best hitting catchers in the game, but it would be even more moronic not to considering baseball is awarding teams that do so.
(I think the international picks were for if there was an international draft)
international signings not eligible for PPI, so Yoshida and Senga not eligible. Makes sense. We were talking about that earlier in the year.
Per the article, 2nd and 3rd place finishers get picks in the international draft. Unclear what that means. Link - ( New Window )
The new CBA I believe called for a draft of international players rather than the current free for all. If an eligible prospect comes in 2nd or 3rd in Rookie of the Year vote then you will get extra pick(s) in that draft.
Alvarez has been the 2nd best hitting catcher in baseball over the past 30 days.
A position where the Mets had been among the worst before he was called up.
If it's about winning games this should not even be a discussion.
If someone has to tell the Mets front office to keep him up for the remote chance to get a 1st round comp pick or even an INTL pick or conversely to send Alvarez down so the Mets can shop the AAAA catchers to maybe get something back in return for them in a trade instead of cutting them - then the Mets front office is run by morons.
Coming off a season where the Mets lost the division by percentage points, messing around with this stuff for no good reason is why it will happen again. May wins count.
+1
Heads should roll if that is in fact what their intention is. If I were Cohen I'd just go up to Eppler and Buck and be like, "You can send him down, but if he goes down then so does one of you." Let's see how much they'll stick to their guns then.
eppler and buck are competent professionals with positives
but we are seeing why they were available. neither is exactly what you want leading your entire organization. buck appears to be too stubborn, eppler appears to be too mushy. so far they've basically just sprinkled some professionalism (and a few whale pitchers) on top of what was already here - which was important bc professionalism was maybe the orgs biggest need post scott/porter.
there's a reason they first went for beane, epstein, melvin.
stearns is interesting bc of how well thought of he seems to be and i expect that to happen, but im also not sure he's any kind of savior. his resume is good but nowhere near the other 3.
you dont need perfect to get hot at the right time though. once they missed on correa they sort of went all in on the kids this year so this was always likely to be some kind of transition year. they just kept trying to put it off as long as possible. the kids are showing that not all transitions need a step backwards though.
the Mets make the playoffs, Buck will be back (and almost certainly be offered an extension) a lameduck manager in NY is exceedingly rare and with Cohen's money he'd presumably understand he *likely* would have to eat some. Obviously, it's worth monitoring Stearns/Counsell as a potential combo platter.
I haven't been following but is the Stearns thing happening or just rumors and dot-connecting?
Nightengale claimed he’s heard it’s going to happen from a “source”. Keep in mind while he’s a “top” baseball writer he’s well known for getting stories wrong to the point most tweets of his have people essentially saying “so the opposite”…. We know the Mets were interested in the past and that he’ll be a FA after the WS (he’s also friendly/friends with Eppler) and previously worked for the Mets. His wife apparently preferred Houston before this season but who knows?
The wife will be fine in Greenwich.
Just the thought of Alvarez being sent down makes me seriously want to punch a wall, and I'm not a violent person.
is obviously a smart business man and big baseball fan. Surely he has to see what's going on, right?
Fans usually don't want owners meddling with team ops, but that's assuming you have people in charge making good decisions.
I would support Cohen stepping in and saying wait a minute fellas, you're not going to do that (send Alvarez down). That shouldn't be necessary, but it might be.
international signings not eligible for PPI, so Yoshida and Senga not eligible. Makes sense. We were talking about that earlier in the year.
Per the article, 2nd and 3rd place finishers get picks in the international draft. Unclear what that means. Link - ( New Window )
The new CBA I believe called for a draft of international players rather than the current free for all. If an eligible prospect comes in 2nd or 3rd in Rookie of the Year vote then you will get extra pick(s) in that draft.
I don't think they agreed to an international draft. Link - ( New Window )
nimmo, mcneil, alonso, baty, vientos, alvarez, and soon to be mauricio - all in the same homegrown lineup - is a remarkable haul from 1 system. with parada, ramirez, williams still as top 100's to continue building with or dangle as trade bait.
if you just made an all mets lineup and added in gimenez and maybe conforto with rosario as a utility guy, it's almost as good as the version with lindor and marte. conforto seems to have rediscovered his power and hit into some bad luck but his ops is still 740 and climbing. he always seemed like a good guy so hopefully things work out.
as long as tramuta and tanous are in the org building the system and cohen is writing checks i think we can be bullish that they will have a chance any given year. it really wasnt that long ago that opening day lineups across multiple seasons were littered with guys like thole, tejada, ike davis.
is obviously a smart business man and big baseball fan. Surely he has to see what's going on, right?
Fans usually don't want owners meddling with team ops, but that's assuming you have people in charge making good decisions.
I would support Cohen stepping in and saying wait a minute fellas, you're not going to do that (send Alvarez down). That shouldn't be necessary, but it might be.
i think so. he stepped in on the correa move.
to some degree if you have a very strong owner they are the gm on the bigger decisions. especially if you also have a mushy gm.
if they had negotiated the parameters of a soto deal last year for example, either way that would have been ultimately decided by cohen.
nimmo, mcneil, alonso, baty, vientos, alvarez, and soon to be mauricio - all in the same homegrown lineup - is a remarkable haul from 1 system. with parada, ramirez, williams still as top 100's to continue building with or dangle as trade bait.
if you just made an all mets lineup and added in gimenez and maybe conforto with rosario as a utility guy, it's almost as good as the version with lindor and marte. conforto seems to have rediscovered his power and hit into some bad luck but his ops is still 740 and climbing. he always seemed like a good guy so hopefully things work out.
as long as tramuta and tanous are in the org building the system and cohen is writing checks i think we can be bullish that they will have a chance any given year. it really wasnt that long ago that opening day lineups across multiple seasons were littered with guys like thole, tejada, ike davis.
Great post Eric. Those guys are something else. I'm glad nobody else across MLB has stepped in and tried to poach them. now we need starting pitchers to come up in the system. That's the next challenge (perhaps some power corner OFers too).
out of the group of 5 (Alvarez, Narvaez, Nido, Sanchez, and Perez).
The Mets would be the best team overall with Narvaez backing up Alvarez and playing one to two times per week.
However, Narvaez would probably hold a terrific amount of trade value.
What kind of bullpen arms could Narvaez return?
If you are going to keep Alvy with the big club to be the #1 catcher, it makes sense to trade some of these guys. You can't demote Sanchez or Nido to AAA right? And Narvaez holds the most value. MLB Trade Rumors said the Giants, Twins, Tigers and Reds all had interest.
I think the Twins could really use him. Could they get a Matt Canterino and a lottery ticket for him?
Shouldn't the Mets either look to trade 1 or even 2 of these catchers not named Alvarez for pitching talent in either the minors or a good major league arm for the bullpen?
last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
will miss the entire 2023 season FWIW. Also, don't see the Twins as a fit at all, they just paid Vazquez 3 years 30, I don't see any scenario they are committing "significant" additional money to add an Omar Narvaez As for Narvaez's trade value, it's likely less than you'd think. He's coming off a season where he posted a 71 wRC+ and has a player option for 2024 which he'll almost certainly be picking up at this point.
the obvious guy to try to get is hendriks if he looks good
they were interested in the offseason, he makes a lot of money so not everyone can afford him since CHW won't want to eat the money if they can help it.
that is the guy to get. keep an eye on him as he returns over the next few weeks.
expect Nido to land somewhere like SD/Cleveland/Miami for an older minor league bullpen arm. I think Nido for a guy like Mangum also makes sense but there are plenty of teams with bad C situations they likely are willing to "take on" Nido for a limited return. I can't imagine Gary Sanchez would bring back anything but cash. Waited until April looking for an MLB deal, opted out of his deal with SF because they informed him they didn't intend to call him up anytime soon and then signed with the Mets because they were 1 of 2 teams to show interest (Angels the other) and he has a relationship with Eppler. I'm probably shooting way too high expecting a guy like Jimmy Herget but I'd ask.
At the end of the day I expect Perez in AAA, Nido traded somewhere like Cleveland/Miami/LAA, and they hold onto Sanchez (for now) with Vientos back to Syracuse (don't shoot the messenger, this is just my guess)
Aaron Loup has a 7.71 era despite a 3.82 FIP. He's owed the remainder of his 2023 salary (prorated 7.5 million) Loup and cash to cover the majority of that for Nido or Sanchez (a guy the Angels showed interest in) might not be the worst idea. @mets could DFA Loup if shot
At the end of the day I expect Perez in AAA, Nido traded somewhere like Cleveland/Miami/LAA, and they hold onto Sanchez (for now) with Vientos back to Syracuse (don't shoot the messenger, this is just my guess)
i think it's mostly posturing. i think they move sanchez for a crappy bp arm somewhere that needs a catcher because he's cheap.
nido/narvaez is the decision, and id guess they just use the IL to delay that decision for as long as they need to if alvarez is hitting. the eye sight thing is probably a very fortunate diagnosis because nido can self report that he's blurry any time.
Aaron Loup has a 7.71 era despite a 3.82 FIP. He's owed the remainder of his 2023 salary (prorated 7.5 million) Loup and cash to cover the majority of that for Nido or Sanchez (a guy the Angels showed interest in) might not be the worst idea. @mets could DFA Loup if shot
this is exactly the type of move i could see.
and the closer to the deadline maybe something like nido for a trevor williams type if they need that.
last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
know you're just giving examples but I can't see Washington being interested in Nido. Just locked up Ruiz and have Riley Adams making pennies as their backup. Adams has some level of upside too (went 4-4 just this week, with a HR)
RE: RE: narvaez probably doesnt hold any value at all
last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
I do not think the Twins believe Narvaez is such a substantial upgrade that they are taking on an additional commitment of whatever he's owed of his 8 this season and likely 7 more next season when they owe Vazquez 10, 10, 10. Paying nearly 20 million the next 2 seasons for those 2 does not seem particularly feasible AND giving up talent? Last 3 seasons Vazquez is 6th in fWAR at C. He's been awful to start but they aren't pulling the plug 118 Pa's into signing him. Jeffers has a 119 wRC+ in limited time this season as well. Don't see the fit.
for all of his struggles is still 19/57 in framing and their rotation has been the best in baseball by FIP and fWAR. I'd be pretty stunned to see them move off of Vazquez (plus give up talent) for a guy like Narvaez.
That's fine. Keep him on the DL as insurance. Like the Loup idea for a C (I think Herget is a pipe dream, as you acknowledge)
Only mentioned Herget because they sent him down after a terrible 12 game run with the Angels and has been just as bad since being sent down. That being said, 2 options left, no real reason to move on.
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One Mets pitcher suggested that if the team options Francisco Álvarez, the pitching staff "will be angry"
(via @martinonyc
) http://on.sny.tv/DvGiC67
Good. The more reasons to not send him down, the better. Besides loving to throw to him, I'm sure the staff doesn't mind not having an empty spot in the lineup
will miss the entire 2023 season FWIW. Also, don't see the Twins as a fit at all, they just paid Vazquez 3 years 30, I don't see any scenario they are committing "significant" additional money to add an Omar Narvaez As for Narvaez's trade value, it's likely less than you'd think. He's coming off a season where he posted a 71 wRC+ and has a player option for 2024 which he'll almost certainly be picking up at this point.
Didn't realize the Canterino injury. I suppose you're right about Twins fit, but that's not the only team out there.
But teams would look at context...last year Narvaez had a career-low BABIP of .248 that was 54 points off his career average, it was just under 300 plate appearances and 84 games, right, and he still graded out as a plus WAR player because of his defensive acumen (1.1). He was a 2.8 WAR player just the year prior. I find it hard to believe there would be nothing of value to be gained from moving him. I'd prefer Nido and Sanchez get traded, but this team really needs some pitching help in the bullpen and throughout the minor league system, and I don't think those guys would really bring back anything at all.
However, if no deal is to be had on any of these guys, just release whoever you need to.
But last thing on potential trades...I'm not talking about some fantastic compensation...The White Sox got Jake Diekman for Reese McGuire last year. Minnesota got Kiner-Falefa and Ronny Henriquez for Mitch Garver last year.
That's pretty good. Lot's of catchers got traded last year. Some twice. Most weren't catchers that were all that noteworthy.
RE: RE: narvaez probably doesnt hold any value at all
last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
in the offseason they had the choice and they paid vazquez almost double what any other team was willing to pay narvaez. do you think the 5 games narvaez played changed their minds?
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#Mets No. 4 prospect Ronny Mauricio is batting .397 with 15 RBIs in May and leads the Minors with 21 doubles on the season.
know you're just giving examples but I can't see Washington being interested in Nido. Just locked up Ruiz and have Riley Adams making pennies as their backup. Adams has some level of upside too (went 4-4 just this week, with a HR)
i dont think the mets are alone in valuing nido's defense. youre right washington may not be the best fit but they also may not have that many takers for williams' contract since it has a 2nd year. nido makes a lot less than that but does clear a little money off the mets books to offset some of the williams $.
Tidwell has been very disappointing so far this season. Hopefully, he gets going. He was never a realistic 2023 option but the hope had to be a second half pitching well in AA.
RE: RE: RE: narvaez probably doesnt hold any value at all
last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
in the offseason they had the choice and they paid vazquez almost double what any other team was willing to pay narvaez. do you think the 5 games narvaez played changed their minds?
Yeah I didn't realize the outlay the Twins made on Vazquez, so obviously no. Some of you guys follow MLB free agency more than I do, I just follow what the Mets are doing, mostly.
March was a good month for TJ? Looks like Luis Rodriguez (the lefty) also is 14 months post TJ as well. You never know with setbacks but you'd assume all 3 are pretty close to pitching in 2023
his FB only got up to about 95mph and his slider was 86mph, both about 3 mph down from last year. and those were his highs, statcast had his range 1-2 mph below that.
if any team offered to take his full contract right now - which is about $10m left this year plus a 15m deferred buyout or option next year, i have to think the white sox would be tempted to consider that.
there are obviously some very fair reasons to think his velo may come back over the next month or two but would they be willing to gamble $25m hoping he gets that velo back and does enough to bring back anything of value by the deadline?
One intriguing arm who is missing in action is 2022 18th rounder Chris Santiago. He's newish to pitching so it's possible he's opening in the complex league but so far MIA
Can we expect anything out of Dylan Bundy at SYR ?? Or is he just filling out the roster at this stage of his career ??
Former high draft choice with some ML experience.
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One Mets pitcher suggested that if the team options Francisco Álvarez, the pitching staff "will be angry"
(via @martinonyc
) http://on.sny.tv/DvGiC67
They would understandably be angry. He gives them a better chance to WIN! Isn't that what it's SUPPOSED to be about?!
I'm very glad to see this. Hard to believe everyone can see it would be a big mistake, except possibly the one or two who are making the decision. I hope this gets back to them. Hope it gets back to Uncle Steve.
It would be ridiculously bad judgment to send him down. We lost the freaking div last yr on a tie breaker and they pissed away multiple games already this yr by being stubborn about the kids.
Can we expect anything out of Dylan Bundy at SYR ?? Or is he just filling out the roster at this stage of his career ??
Former high draft choice with some ML experience.
Bundy has been beyond bad so far in Syracuse. 12 homers allowed over 25 innings
In minor league action Matt Rudick doing Matt Rudick things is 2-3 with a 2b, SB and a K. Junior Santos continues to struggle. Era up to 6.81 after allowing 6 runs over 5.2 innings (strongly believe they should consider a move to the BP for him)
Rudick has now reached based multiple times 4 of his last 5 games and May 11th was the last time he did not reach base a span of 11 games. No particular rush but a summer in Syracuse may be part of his immediate future #Mets
In minor league action Matt Rudick doing Matt Rudick things is 2-3 with a 2b, SB and a K. Junior Santos continues to struggle. Era up to 6.81 after allowing 6 runs over 5.2 innings (strongly believe they should consider a move to the BP for him)
it will be interesting to see what his exit velo looks like whenever they bring him up to AAA. would think that should happen in the next month or so. one of the more impressive years i can remember still with a very modest babip in the kind of normal range (.340). i figure it will be low but who knows he's on a 20 homer/50xbh pace. anything mcneil-ish would be a good sign i think.
Rudick now 3-4, HR, 2B, SB, 3 runs, 3 rbi. Average up to .322. Just a completely massive start to the season for a guy who I don't believe was on *any* Mets top 30-40 prospects lists that I saw
Not only is Matt Rudick off to an incredible start. He's doing despite a lineup that has been awful around him. Bing has 1 other hitter with an OPS over .700 (Peroza) and Rudick and Peroza are the only 2 hitting over .240
their backup catcher is currently austin wynns and he's been cut twice already this year. he's 32 and hitting .185 with a 45% k rate.
diaz is having a great year but he is also 32 and historically not been good.
daniel bard or brad hand maybe? their bullpen has been pretty strong this year beyond both of them and they could save some $ while filling the C spot. bard has a sub-1 era but his peripherals are awful. he's walking 7 guys per 9. hand probably the more sensible target.
their backup catcher is currently austin wynns and he's been cut twice already this year. he's 32 and hitting .185 with a 45% k rate.
diaz is having a great year but he is also 32 and historically not been good.
daniel bard or brad hand maybe? their bullpen has been pretty strong this year beyond both of them and they could save some $ while filling the C spot. bard has a sub-1 era but his peripherals are awful. he's walking 7 guys per 9. hand probably the more sensible target.
With the way Colorado is using Bard my assumption is he's not yet ready for pressure spots so bringing him to NY might not be ideal (or even something they would want to subject him to). He's had ongoing issues with anxiety.
RE: RE: colorado is a good team for a sanchez or nido trade
their backup catcher is currently austin wynns and he's been cut twice already this year. he's 32 and hitting .185 with a 45% k rate.
diaz is having a great year but he is also 32 and historically not been good.
daniel bard or brad hand maybe? their bullpen has been pretty strong this year beyond both of them and they could save some $ while filling the C spot. bard has a sub-1 era but his peripherals are awful. he's walking 7 guys per 9. hand probably the more sensible target.
With the way Colorado is using Bard my assumption is he's not yet ready for pressure spots so bringing him to NY might not be ideal (or even something they would want to subject him to). He's had ongoing issues with anxiety.
maybe im not sure whoever the mets get at this stage would pitch late, just another option ahead of smith/otto/raley/robertson. he was here a couple years ago so who knows.
you can close your eyes and point at anyone in the COL BP and they'd be an upgrade here (and vice versa with the mets C room for COL).
Rudick now 3-4, HR, 2B, SB, 3 runs, 3 rbi. Average up to .322. Just a completely massive start to the season for a guy who I don't believe was on *any* Mets top 30-40 prospects lists that I saw
Outside of Mauricio, he has to be the best minor league surprise so far this season, unless I'm missing someone. I see he has 8 starts in CF this year and has played some CF in prior years. What are the reports on him sticking at CF defensively? I know I saw an excellent diving catch of his the other day. If the Mets wind up dealing Ramirez, would be nice to have Rudick as a 4th OF option down the road in the majors who can play a capable CF
had Bard on my fantasy team so I was following him and they really have used him in the lowest leverage situations imaginable. Maybe that changes but it almost feels like it would be cruel to him if he's dealing with stuff to send him to NY.
Rudick now 3-4, HR, 2B, SB, 3 runs, 3 rbi. Average up to .322. Just a completely massive start to the season for a guy who I don't believe was on *any* Mets top 30-40 prospects lists that I saw
Outside of Mauricio, he has to be the best minor league surprise so far this season, unless I'm missing someone. I see he has 8 starts in CF this year and has played some CF in prior years. What are the reports on him sticking at CF defensively? I know I saw an excellent diving catch of his the other day. If the Mets wind up dealing Ramirez, would be nice to have Rudick as a 4th OF option down the road in the majors who can play a capable CF
When he was drafted it was suggested his range/arm would be subpar in CF. If that's changed, you're guess is as good as mine.
hit throughout college, but the knocks were a 5'7-5'8" kid with very limited power (5 career college homers) who profiled tools wise as more of a corner guy. So far this season he's showing surprising pop.
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Mets pitching change: Tylor Megill will face the Cubs today, Kodai Senga tomorrow.
This tweak prevents them from having to use Senga on normal rest Sunday. He has gotten extra rest — by major-league norms, anyway — every start this season.
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Mets pitching change: Tylor Megill will face the Cubs today, Kodai Senga tomorrow.
This tweak prevents them from having to use Senga on normal rest Sunday. He has gotten extra rest — by major-league norms, anyway — every start this season.
Also sets him up to pitch vs. Phillies rather than Rockies. Would be scheduled then for next Sunday vs. Blue Jays, but they could push him back until that Tuesday vs. Braves
@Mets LHP Javier Atencio has been removed from the roster and sent to the FCL Mets. Atencio was off to a rough start to say the least (11.09 era) replacing him with @stluciemets is RHP Candido Cuevas who impressed me a bit last season in the DSL
he's a catcher and needs days off, but the Mets were off on Saturday and Monday and he only played one game on Sunday. That's now 3 out of 4 days he's going without playing.
Why not actually try and set this kid up for success Buck? Why give a AAAA washout like Sanchez so much faith? It's not like he's even a big clubhouse guy having been here for less than a week. I just don't get it.
Mark Canha is 1/12 with 3 k's vs. Smyly for his career, Pham 1-5 with a HR. Biggest takeaway should be allowing Baty to start at 3b vs. a lefty vs. Escobar at 3b or Vientos. Vientos is also hitting 5th. TBH, less to complain about than usual
had Bard on my fantasy team so I was following him and they really have used him in the lowest leverage situations imaginable. Maybe that changes but it almost feels like it would be cruel to him if he's dealing with stuff to send him to NY.
i misread your last post and thought you meant hand, i agree bard isnt a great fit right now for that and the salary. he is walking so many guys and costs a lot just not really worth it.
hand is a guy who has been dfa'd more than sanchez and he's older that's a reasonable 1 for 1. it could be argued nido has more value over 2 reasonable years than hand for just 1 (at the same $).
that's a deal i think id do though. he has good numbers this year, a second lefty, and he has late game experience. the velocity is still there who knows.
Mark Canha is 1/12 with 3 k's vs. Smyly for his career, Pham 1-5 with a HR. Biggest takeaway should be allowing Baty to start at 3b vs. a lefty vs. Escobar at 3b or Vientos. Vientos is also hitting 5th. TBH, less to complain about than usual
kind of agree. i very much think they are trying to showcase sanchez.
also 1 thing to remember re alvarez - he is on pace to catch more innings than he ever has in a prior year. last year he did the same and had the ankle issue in september.
unlike other positions i dont mind a little extra rest for a catcher. just dont send him down.
had Bard on my fantasy team so I was following him and they really have used him in the lowest leverage situations imaginable. Maybe that changes but it almost feels like it would be cruel to him if he's dealing with stuff to send him to NY.
i misread your last post and thought you meant hand, i agree bard isnt a great fit right now for that and the salary. he is walking so many guys and costs a lot just not really worth it.
hand is a guy who has been dfa'd more than sanchez and he's older that's a reasonable 1 for 1. it could be argued nido has more value over 2 reasonable years than hand for just 1 (at the same $).
that's a deal i think id do though. he has good numbers this year, a second lefty, and he has late game experience. the velocity is still there who knows.
Mark Canha is 1/12 with 3 k's vs. Smyly for his career, Pham 1-5 with a HR. Biggest takeaway should be allowing Baty to start at 3b vs. a lefty vs. Escobar at 3b or Vientos. Vientos is also hitting 5th. TBH, less to complain about than usual
kind of agree. i very much think they are trying to showcase sanchez.
also 1 thing to remember re alvarez - he is on pace to catch more innings than he ever has in a prior year. last year he did the same and had the ankle issue in september.
unlike other positions i dont mind a little extra rest for a catcher. just dont send him down.
1 - The Mets need to manage the amount of innings that Alvarez catches. The fact that he's on pace to catch more innings than he ever has in a prior year is something to keep in mind. The problem with his ankle that popped up in September is something that didn't happen by coincidence.
2 - They're probably showcasing Sanchez so they can possibly get something for him. I don't know what they can get for him, but there are some clubs around MLB that could possibly use him. Might as well try.
1- If you're not starting Escobar today, then when? He's CRUSHED Smyly
2- If Escobar starts at 3b, then the complaint is that you're sitting Baty.
3- They are letting Baty face a lefty vs. a stupid platoon
4- They are hitting Vientos 5th
5- Yeah, McNeil could have started over Pham in LF but McNeil is 0-5 vs. Smyly and now is the time to trot Pham out there in clear "facing lefty" situations and/or find out if they need an upgrade from him. If not now, when?
6- Keeping McNeil's legs fresh isn't the worst idea given his history of leg issues
7. I don't expect much from Gary Sanchez but he's the kind of bat a guy like Barnes/Hinske might want to work with. A guy who is "talented" but never really figured it out. Let's not forget 2016-2017 Gary Sanchez over 175 games had a .923 OPS, 2019 he had an .841 OPS. He's not a complete zero for his career.
Quick fantasy baseball question - I hope no one minds
Q: if you had a pitcher who will serve as an "opener" would you keep them in your lineup that day? In question is Matt Strahm (PHI) and I believe he will only be the opener today and I'm not sure much good can come from that. he can't get the win since he's not going 5, and he can't get the save obviously. What would you do?
I can replace him in my lineup with a reliever like Bryan Abreu (HOU) or Jorge Lopez (MIN) - both middle relievers with W/S potential and decent ratios (my league has ratios like WHIP, K/BB as pitcher categories).
If the idea is to play him more in the OF (potentially significantly more if Mauricio comes up) then they 100% should look to give him rest days when feasible.
1- If you're not starting Escobar today, then when? He's CRUSHED Smyly
2- If Escobar starts at 3b, then the complaint is that you're sitting Baty.
3- They are letting Baty face a lefty vs. a stupid platoon
4- They are hitting Vientos 5th
5- Yeah, McNeil could have started over Pham in LF but McNeil is 0-5 vs. Smyly and now is the time to trot Pham out there in clear "facing lefty" situations and/or find out if they need an upgrade from him. If not now, when?
6- Keeping McNeil's legs fresh isn't the worst idea given his history of leg issues
7. I don't expect much from Gary Sanchez but he's the kind of bat a guy like Barnes/Hinske might want to work with. A guy who is "talented" but never really figured it out. Let's not forget 2016-2017 Gary Sanchez over 175 games had a .923 OPS, 2019 he had an .841 OPS. He's not a complete zero for his career.
Alvarez not being in there vs a lefty is disappointing. Maybe this is about getting some trade value established with Sanchez (I hope).
It's nice to see Vientos moved up in the order in a good RBI spot, and Baty getting another start against the lefty. I have no problem with Escobar being in the lineup. He's pretty good against lefties and obviously having prior success against this pitcher in particular.
RE: Quick fantasy baseball question - I hope no one minds
Q: if you had a pitcher who will serve as an "opener" would you keep them in your lineup that day? In question is Matt Strahm (PHI) and I believe he will only be the opener today and I'm not sure much good can come from that. he can't get the win since he's not going 5, and he can't get the save obviously. What would you do?
I can replace him in my lineup with a reliever like Bryan Abreu (HOU) or Jorge Lopez (MIN) - both middle relievers with W/S potential and decent ratios (my league has ratios like WHIP, K/BB as pitcher categories).
take this opinion with a grain of salt bc i retired from fantasy baseball before the era of openers so never really contemplated, but i think id make the switch you are describing. astros on an 8 game winning streak but against brewers, twins on a losing streak but against sfg. both teams are favored so like you said either one could grab a save or win.
worth noting, McNeil did recently have a day off but... annually McNeil deals with leg soreness/fatigue and annually they kind of leave it murky... would not surprise me if he's dealing with that right now.
RE: RE: Quick fantasy baseball question - I hope no one minds
Q: if you had a pitcher who will serve as an "opener" would you keep them in your lineup that day? In question is Matt Strahm (PHI) and I believe he will only be the opener today and I'm not sure much good can come from that. he can't get the win since he's not going 5, and he can't get the save obviously. What would you do?
I can replace him in my lineup with a reliever like Bryan Abreu (HOU) or Jorge Lopez (MIN) - both middle relievers with W/S potential and decent ratios (my league has ratios like WHIP, K/BB as pitcher categories).
take this opinion with a grain of salt bc i retired from fantasy baseball before the era of openers so never really contemplated, but i think id make the switch you are describing. astros on an 8 game winning streak but against brewers, twins on a losing streak but against sfg. both teams are favored so like you said either one could grab a save or win.
I like Strahm and would probably keep him there. It wasn't too long ago he was in the rotation, and he was successful. And 12.8 K/9 and the sub-1.00 WHIP thus far, so that should help even if he only goes 4 IP. I could see him getting to 5 if he has some quick innings.
1- If you're not starting Escobar today, then when? He's CRUSHED Smyly
2- If Escobar starts at 3b, then the complaint is that you're sitting Baty.
3- They are letting Baty face a lefty vs. a stupid platoon
4- They are hitting Vientos 5th
5- Yeah, McNeil could have started over Pham in LF but McNeil is 0-5 vs. Smyly and now is the time to trot Pham out there in clear "facing lefty" situations and/or find out if they need an upgrade from him. If not now, when?
6- Keeping McNeil's legs fresh isn't the worst idea given his history of leg issues
7. I don't expect much from Gary Sanchez but he's the kind of bat a guy like Barnes/Hinske might want to work with. A guy who is "talented" but never really figured it out. Let's not forget 2016-2017 Gary Sanchez over 175 games had a .923 OPS, 2019 he had an .841 OPS. He's not a complete zero for his career.
escobar has also been very good in may. 8/22 with 2 homers. 3ks/3 walks.
obviously sss but that's a .636slg%, 1.076+ ops, and 199 rc with matching 12% walk/krate. and now a favorable matchup against a guy he crushes.
mcneil is obviously an established player who isn't going anywhere so a game off when a backup is playing well is not a big deal.
worth noting, McNeil did recently have a day off but... annually McNeil deals with leg soreness/fatigue and annually they kind of leave it murky... would not surprise me if he's dealing with that right now.
also a great bat to have on the bench for a big spot if you need him.
yes this is self sacrilege but if vientos is on an 0-3 with 3 k's and they bring in a righty in the 8th with men on, mcneil is a nice option to have behind alonso so they cant pitch around him so easily.
worth noting, McNeil did recently have a day off but... annually McNeil deals with leg soreness/fatigue and annually they kind of leave it murky... would not surprise me if he's dealing with that right now.
Good point about McNeil and his leg soreness/fatigue.
Questions for you Dan (opinion related):
In the future, when (no longer if) Mauricio comes up, can you see McNeil adjusting well to LF, perhaps even RF, despite his defensive excellence at 2B?
Also, how would Jeff playing in the OF affect his annual leg soreness vs. playing the infield? Is this better for him in the long-term or should the Mets still find a way to get Mauricio into one of those two corner OF positions going forward?
don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
Thanks. Mauricio must have been REALLY bad in the OF for them to not try him out there this year at 'Cuse. Do you see the Mets putting their OF plan with him into action this coming offseason? Mauricio has improved a lot these past two offseason in Winterball. Hopefully that'll help him turn this corner so the Mets can keep Squirrel at 2B.
I have Wandy Peralta as a speculative hold for potential of him taking over the closer role for the Yankees. I think he's their best option, but they are still doing committee.
I have Miguel Castro available and Bobby Miller. We have 3 spots for closer (no Holds category). I could use a guy like Miller if he pans out, but I have plenty of young upside starters (Eury Perez, Pfaadt, Logan Allen, J.P. France, Bailey Ober).
My closers are Iglesias and Kimbrel (with Alvarado in IR spot), but I have one more spot for a RP/closer, which I have Eury Perez in at the moment, semi-punting on saves.
Does dropping Peralta for Castro or Miller make sense?
don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
one of the things Eppler has been right about is the value of versatility. mauricio and mcneil are keys to that. if you want to give lindor a day off or dh him, mauricio slides over. vientos/alonso/baty can all work the same way. they are depth before you even have to get someone up off the bench.
eppler's fringe moves (and inability to get buck on board with kids) have driven me near crazy but i give him credit for hanging on to all the kids to this point and if we want a silver lining at least so far the adjustment curves for all of them have been relatively painless (in part because they were overly patient bringing them up).
all of us debated swapping a kid for a marlins pitcher or contreras or montas and all of them for soto or signing conforto and right now im glad we have all of them and as much available PT as possible.
Castro got 3 of the last 4 save opps, but last night he pitched the 7th in the meat of the Phillies' order, and Chafin got the 3-run Save in the 9th. Hard to know what the D-Backs are doing there, but it seems like the Yankees are treating Peralta the same way as they are Castro in Arizona, high-leverage spots against the dangerous parts of the lineups late, whether that is in the 7th, 8th, or 9th innings.
don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
Thanks. Mauricio must have been REALLY bad in the OF for them to not try him out there this year at 'Cuse. Do you see the Mets putting their OF plan with him into action this coming offseason? Mauricio has improved a lot these past two offseason in Winterball. Hopefully that'll help him turn this corner so the Mets can keep Squirrel at 2B.
He's never played a single game out there and (I could be wrong) I've never even heard them working with him in the OF in drills etc so he very well may never have seen *any* time out there. It's one thing to believe he can play out there but another to expect him to go from ZERO OF experience to MLB ready.
I have Wandy Peralta as a speculative hold for potential of him taking over the closer role for the Yankees. I think he's their best option, but they are still doing committee.
I have Miguel Castro available and Bobby Miller. We have 3 spots for closer (no Holds category). I could use a guy like Miller if he pans out, but I have plenty of young upside starters (Eury Perez, Pfaadt, Logan Allen, J.P. France, Bailey Ober).
My closers are Iglesias and Kimbrel (with Alvarado in IR spot), but I have one more spot for a RP/closer, which I have Eury Perez in at the moment, semi-punting on saves.
Does dropping Peralta for Castro or Miller make sense?
I would keep Peralta. If he can get a stranglehold on the Yankees closer spot that is more upside than either Castro or Miller IMO.
don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
Thanks. Mauricio must have been REALLY bad in the OF for them to not try him out there this year at 'Cuse. Do you see the Mets putting their OF plan with him into action this coming offseason? Mauricio has improved a lot these past two offseason in Winterball. Hopefully that'll help him turn this corner so the Mets can keep Squirrel at 2B.
He's never played a single game out there and (I could be wrong) I've never even heard them working with him in the OF in drills etc so he very well may never have seen *any* time out there. It's one thing to believe he can play out there but another to expect him to go from ZERO OF experience to MLB ready.
there was a mention a couple weeks ago from one of the beats that they are discussing putting him in the OF internally. first id seen that acknowledged.
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In addition to second base, which Ronny Mauricio played in a minor league game tonight for the first time in his career, Buck Showalter indicated that Mauricio could see some time at first, third and in the outfield.
The long-awaited defensive migration of Mauricio has begun.
6:30 PM · Apr 21, 2023
RE: looks like it was a month ago straight from buck
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In addition to second base, which Ronny Mauricio played in a minor league game tonight for the first time in his career, Buck Showalter indicated that Mauricio could see some time at first, third and in the outfield.
The long-awaited defensive migration of Mauricio has begun.
6:30 PM · Apr 21, 2023
Around the world! Turn him into Kevin Mitchell!
RE: looks like it was a month ago straight from buck
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In addition to second base, which Ronny Mauricio played in a minor league game tonight for the first time in his career, Buck Showalter indicated that Mauricio could see some time at first, third and in the outfield.
The long-awaited defensive migration of Mauricio has begun.
6:30 PM · Apr 21, 2023
Eric,
I’m a bit confused. I said the stated plan was for him to play all over but so far he’s seen 0 OF time.
Eric on LI made a good point on if Buck will play them both or not later. It's also a good opportunity to rest Pete at 1B. Who will he play in both games? Questions, questions...
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they havent had a real winning streak all year so now would be a really good time for that.
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they havent had a real winning streak all year so now would be a really good time for that.
The Mets have a day off tomorrow too, so they also have that to their advantage. a little urgency form Buck here would be nice. These aren't throw-away/evaluation games as Buck might think.
Jose Quintana threw a bullpen session yesterday. Said it went well and that Quintana was “excited” with the results. #Mets
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When will he back again? July or August, as originally reported? Maybe in a month now that things seem to be going well? Wouldn't it be great if he could replace Cookie in the starting rotation to boot?
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Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
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I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
I’d say that, yes, this is another one of Eppler’s unimaginative moves. Poor defensive catcher and poor offensive player (unless they are “hoping” that Sanchez will hit like he did - sometimes - years ago). But for a part time, back up type of catcher, we already have those.
My issue is with him being on the roster after this game. If he takes a single at bat away from Baty/Vientos then it will just further cement how out of touch and bad Eppler/Buck are.
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I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
I’d say that, yes, this is another one of Eppler’s unimaginative moves. Poor defensive catcher and poor offensive player (unless they are “hoping” that Sanchez will hit like he did - sometimes - years ago). But for a part time, back up type of catcher, we already have those.
My issue is with him being on the roster after this game. If he takes a single at bat away from Baty/Vientos then it will just further cement how out of touch and bad Eppler/Buck are.
You aren’t having Alvarez catch both games of the doubleheader and Scherzer needs less hand holding from a defensive specialist
he's either going to need to learn to get more aggressive and look to do more damage or park himself on the bench as a pinch hitter.
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I know right. Looked like a ball to me.
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I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
Has to be. Probably knows him from when he was still with Yanks possibly?
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I understand playing some because of the doubleheader, but no need to play them all. Buck’s obsession with his veterans is growing really tiresome. And fuck Gary Sanchez. There is zero point to him being on this team.
Was the Sanchez experiment all Eppler? Has to be, right?
Has to be. Probably knows him from when he was still with Yanks possibly?
I was thinking the same regarding their Prisonstriper's connection.
Thanks Eric. Who's quicker on the info draw? You or Dan? lol
Gary said something to the effect Sanchez has an elite arm in throwing runners out, which reads to me as the deterrent to keep guys like straw, kwan and Rosario from stealing. And adds pop. Makes sense to me.
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Oy Vey already!
He bobbled it
No $hit Sherlock.
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Oy Vey already!
He bobbled it
No $hit Sherlock.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
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Oy Vey already!
He bobbled it
No $hit Sherlock.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
I would and would love to do it with you big mouth. The one who comes on here and bitches the most is you. Nobody on these threads likes you. I don't appreciate threats either. Love to meet you and teach a lesson some time. Get off of our threads if you can't behave.
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eppler was hired by yankees in 2004 and left after the 2015 season so they crossed over for almost a decade probably from whenever the yankees started scouting him before signing him.
Thanks Eric. Who's quicker on the info draw? You or Dan? lol
dan usually has the even more obscure stuff.
@SNY_Mets
David Peterson today for Triple-A Syracuse:
8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 9 K
if marte gets a hit that scores 2 so i assume no moves. but if he gets out or walks there's a decision.
Here's his line today:
-86 pitches (55 strikes)
-6 I.P.
-3 hits
-0 R (ER)
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-5 K
4.01 ERA
P.S. Nice play by Baty on that first out defensively at 3B! He got low and looked conident and sure of himself there.
Kinda like Sanchez in this spot
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David Peterson today for Triple-A Syracuse:
8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 9 K
Wow! Great news indeed. Good point about the Mets now moving towards deadline mode. Can teams trade players they sign as free agents the previous offseason at any time Eric, or is that old June 15th rule regarding that situation still in effect?
sanchez hit the ball 79mph
escobar hit the ball 63mph
2 pretty unimpressive at bats. they had to get 1 run across but obviously a big hit would have been better because then maybe you could have saved at least 1 of raley/otto/robertson for later.
mets have 7 hard hit balls today, all from the top 6 of the order. none from vogey, sanchez, escobar.
Always liked him. Just a thought
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Oy Vey already!
He bobbled it
No $hit Sherlock.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
I would and would love to do it with you big mouth. The one who comes on here and bitches the most is you. Nobody on these threads likes you. I don't appreciate threats either. Love to meet you and teach a lesson some time. Get off of our threads if you can't behave.
Right. Be home in august, I’ll be sure to remind you.
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Oy Vey already!
He bobbled it
No $hit Sherlock.
What the fuck is your problem dude? You come on here and do nothing but bitch and bash. I really wonder if you can even backup all your tough talk in person. Love to see it
I would and would love to do it with you big mouth. The one who comes on here and bitches the most is you. Nobody on these threads likes you. I don't appreciate threats either. Love to meet you and teach a lesson some time. Get off of our threads if you can't behave.
Right. Be home in august, I’ll be sure to remind you.
If I'm on Long Island come through to CitField beeyoch. Upstate hillbilly.
lol
Huge hits lately for Lindor, Marte, Alonso. McNeil has been much better. Team was going nowhere with its veteran stars, and now those stars have started to carry them.
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
It’s up to the likes of Francisco Lindor, Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil to turn around the Mets offense. The talent is already on the roster. There are role players, not saviors, on the farm.
whether or not the young guys are "saviors" is a ridiculous strawman. they dont need to be saviors to be better than the players who are not part of the core and constantly failing to deliver run production - including in this game. the stars didn't carry baty to his 2 walks today or his 104 mph single.
also the cherry on top is that vientos/alvarez were actually literal saviors in the rays series that was 100% a lost series and possibly a sweep without them.
Put another one in the books!
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Huge hits lately for Lindor, Marte, Alonso. McNeil has been much better. Team was going nowhere with its veteran stars, and now those stars have started to carry them.
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
It’s up to the likes of Francisco Lindor, Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil to turn around the Mets offense. The talent is already on the roster. There are role players, not saviors, on the farm.
whether or not the young guys are "saviors" is a ridiculous strawman. they dont need to be saviors to be better than the players who are not part of the core and constantly failing to deliver run production - including in this game. the stars didn't carry baty to his 2 walks today or his 104 mph single.
also the cherry on top is that vientos/alvarez were actually literal saviors in the rays series that was 100% a lost series and possibly a sweep without them.
These quotes from Martino piss me off so much. That combined with Buck’s clear dislike of young players and Eppler’s mythical boxes that need to be checked…makes me want them all gone. None of it makes any sense. Arrogant, egotistical, stubborn FO and manager. Just put the best players on the field. It really isnt that difficult.
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Huge hits lately for Lindor, Marte, Alonso. McNeil has been much better. Team was going nowhere with its veteran stars, and now those stars have started to carry them.
Andy Martino
@martinonyc
It’s up to the likes of Francisco Lindor, Starling Marte and Jeff McNeil to turn around the Mets offense. The talent is already on the roster. There are role players, not saviors, on the farm.
whether or not the young guys are "saviors" is a ridiculous strawman. they dont need to be saviors to be better than the players who are not part of the core and constantly failing to deliver run production - including in this game. the stars didn't carry baty to his 2 walks today or his 104 mph single.
also the cherry on top is that vientos/alvarez were actually literal saviors in the rays series that was 100% a lost series and possibly a sweep without them.
Wow. Great post Eric. That is disturbing. Uncle Steve might need to step in here if that's really the case.
Spot on Coop. Classic case of stubbornness and egotism (and insecurity on Eppler's part IMO).
Scherzer talked about the following when he spoke to the press:
-His thumb callous split open (it was already there from before).
-It's something to keep an eye on. He said it opened up during the DC start (his words).
-He said he'll be good to go for his next start.
-He basically is saying that he sucked it up, pitched and won.
-Was amped to see Marte's homer.
-Says everyone is jacked up now the way they're playing.
-Thought working with Sanchez was good today; he thought they worked well for neither one of them having experience working together.
-Said being creative is mixing speeds and being irrational.
@AnthonyDiComo
Mets Game 48 of 162, vs. CLE
Sunday, May 21, 7:10 p.m. (2/2)
RHP Shane Bieber (3-2, 3.20)
Nimmo CF
Lindor SS
McNeil 2B
Alonso 1B
Baty 3B
Canha RF
Vientos DH
Pham LF
Álvarez C
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Mets Game 48 of 162, vs. CLE
Sunday, May 21, 7:10 p.m. (2/2)
RHP Shane Bieber (3-2, 3.20)
Nimmo CF
Lindor SS
McNeil 2B
Alonso 1B
Baty 3B
Canha RF
Vientos DH
Pham LF
Álvarez C
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Marte finally heating up and he sits game two. I know he's a vet, but day off tomorrow, etc.
Guess he's available to pinch hit, but he's swinging the bat so much better now.
Gotta get Canha and Pham AB's? Yeesh.
Guardians at Mets - 7:10 pom EDT start - Game 2 of Doubleheader - TV Broadcast Feed - National Game: ESPN feed (volokit2.com)
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-80 P (50 S)
-6 I.P.
-3 H
-1 R (1 ER)
-0 BB
-3 K
-1 HR
3.91 ERA
Other than the 1st inning, he's been superb this start. I'm assuming he'll go one more inning. Would be nice to get him a win.
We're you at Earl? :)
We're you at Earl? :)
I’m
Here. And happy Z. But long season. Have little faith in max and Justin staying healthy And bullpen is very shaky
But loving Vientos. Baty. Alvarez. And can’t wait for Mauricio
Maybe we can put hit everyone
-98 pitches (65 strikes)
-8 I.P.
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3.60 ERA
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i know marte is heating up and thats big, but id keep mcneil #3 and marte #6. teams cant pitch around baty as easily with a career .300 hitter behind him and with actual power now hitting 7/8/9 it's almost like a mid-order leadoff hitter.
oddly my biggest concern is whats been the best unit on the team the bp. with more leads there are going to be more games like the last 5 where we had to pitch a lot of the same guys every day. not sure theres a solution right now though. have to get lucky w/ someone for a month.
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-The Mets now hold a wild card spot (the 6th and final one)!
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Anyone who doesn't see/agree with that isn't watching. He was the spark!
i was a 100% buck guy and through 4 months last year i would have named him the team's mvp. i thought his BP usage in particular was best ive seen of any manager up until september.
but there was a game last year in august i think where they were down and with the final out he let nido hit i think instead of pinch hitting mcneil and after the game he got very snippy when questioned about it. since august of last year he has left a lot to be desired. he has made a lot of bizarre comments about the young guys, he's been a lot more defensive as he's taken criticism, and his bp usage down the stretch last year was weird against those bad teams when he let 1-2 run games get out of hand and all the best relievers were well rested going sometimes a week between getting in games.
i buy that there are probably some real internal frustrations with him because he has done some real backwards things since august. including some of the comments that came out over the last several days that seem intent on ignoring the reality that the key driver of this win streak was the kids. they've contributed like 11 runs over a winning streak of all 1 run games.
Mauricio 1-5, 2b, K
Cedrola 1-4, K
Peterson 8 innings 2 hits 0 runs 3 runs 9 k's relevant note from @jeffpaternostro "Jeffrey Paternostro
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Peterson threw his change less than even his curve and got big slider whiff and chase by throwing it in the zone less. It’s Triple-A but it’s also closer to an actual blueprint."
Hartwig 1 inning 1 hit 1 run 1 walk 1 k (Very rough month so far for Hartwig 5.1 innings 11 hits 8 runs 12.71 era)
AA game 1
Rudick 1-4, BB, SB, (also threw out a runner at home) really incredible start to the season for a guy who wasn't on "anybodies" radar despite an extensive history of hitting at a high level
Young 2-3, BB, SB, K
Peroza 2-4, BB, 2 k
AA game 2
Rudick 1-2, 2 BB (.307/.451/.518, 27 walks, 21 k's and is now a career 29/35 stealing bases as well)
Hamel 3 perfect 4 k's (haven't seen anything to suggest this was anything but a short outing by design) 21 k's vs. 1 walk in May.. 5.89 era, baseball is weird #Mets
BK game 1
Ramirez 0-2, 2 BB, K
Consuegra 0-4, K (cooled off considerably in May .636 OPS)
Lugo 0-4, K
Parada 1-3, K (0/3 throwing)
Beck 0.2 innings 1 K (11.2 innings 24 k's)
Stuart 6.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's (left with hand issue. Era down to 1.13. He's been a sleeper for me since draft time. Low mileage, huge frame. 7th best FIP in
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BK game 2
Ramirez 1-4, 2B, 2 k's
Parada 1-3, 2 k's
Scott 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's (has quietly been one of the organizations best performers since draft day. RP convert)
Juarez 2 perfect 3 k's (Juarez has yet to allow a run over 15.2 innings to begin his season. Big league RPer)
St. Lucie
Lara 0-3, BB, K
Jett 0-2, SB, 2 BB (Funky stat line.. hitting .207... with a .409 OBP. Some suggestion he's overly selective. Near the top of the league in key cats for his age)
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Adding to this....
Over the last 30 days, Alvarez has the below stat line.
.262 AVG/.896 OPS, 5 HR, 9 R, 10 RBI, +0.9 WAR
He ranks 5th among all C during this time.
He has arrived and no one's return from the IL should change that.
They simply can't do it..
It just doesn't make any sense.
i was fine with it/expecting it a week ago but you can't anymore. perez is a good 3rd catcher if nido gets claimed by someone, though more ideally his vision will get a little blurry again when narvaez is healthy and he'll take a trip to the IL.
alvarez has hit more homers than nidos best year and his defense has been very good. over 20 games if alvarez wins you 1 over nido bc of a homer he hits then that's not only the right answer but the only one. his ops is closing in on .800, his rc is 114, and by fwar he's already the 13th best catcher in mlb with 50 less at bats than pretty much everyone ahead of him.
sanchez would have to go on some kind of crazy run in the next 2 weeks to get any consideration and even if he does, it has to be at the expense of narvaez or nido.
I hate to buy into micro sample sizes but Dominic Hamel's first 3 starts 11.1 innings 11 walks. Dominic Hamel's 5 starts since then 22.2 innings 3 walks
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Brett Baty has simply been a good big leaguer this year:
.258/.343/.430, 120 wRC+, 10.5 BB%, 21.0 K%, 92nd percentile avg exit velo, 95th percentile hard hit %
84th percentile outs above average defensively
Music to my ears. I was watching a 5-year-old video fortuitously enough yesterday on YouTube with Buck and Jayson Stark in which Buck was talking about accountability (click below to see). His ego is getting in the way of winning now due to his inclination to not playing these kids. This job isn't a lifetime appointment, or even guaranteed through this year. Glad to hear this.
P.S. I have a lot of respect for Buck, but his blind spot will wind up costing him.
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Would any of us be surprised to see them do this though (Buck and Eppler)? That's the thing that is baffling.
I remember that clearly. I was assuming he got it from someone in the organization., or would you guys disagree?
Last night he got hit in the head by a batter's backswing. He jumped right up and was ready for the next play......Beast !!
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oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
i was a 100% buck guy and through 4 months last year i would have named him the team's mvp. i thought his BP usage in particular was best ive seen of any manager up until september.
but there was a game last year in august i think where they were down and with the final out he let nido hit i think instead of pinch hitting mcneil and after the game he got very snippy when questioned about it. since august of last year he has left a lot to be desired. he has made a lot of bizarre comments about the young guys, he's been a lot more defensive as he's taken criticism, and his bp usage down the stretch last year was weird against those bad teams when he let 1-2 run games get out of hand and all the best relievers were well rested going sometimes a week between getting in games.
i buy that there are probably some real internal frustrations with him because he has done some real backwards things since august. including some of the comments that came out over the last several days that seem intent on ignoring the reality that the key driver of this win streak was the kids. they've contributed like 11 runs over a winning streak of all 1 run games.
I think Buck brought of a level of professionalism to the Mets job they didn't have in a while but I also think his greatest downfall is developing young talent at the major league level. These kids clearly have impact talent and are a significant reason for the turnaround. They need to be out there everyday and work through slumps. I think there's something to the fact that Buck is the guy before the guy who wins a WS. Do the 90's yankees develop into the dynasty with Buck? I don't know.
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Would make absolutely no sense to send Alvarez down when the other 2 guys get healthy. I can't believe it's even being suggested. When Olney said it last night I just assumed he was saying something moronic and not a reflection of organizational thinking.
I remember that clearly. I was assuming he got it from someone in the organization., or would you guys disagree?
Maybe I should say hoping it wasn't a reflection of org thinking.
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Would make absolutely no sense to send Alvarez down when the other 2 guys get healthy. I can't believe it's even being suggested. When Olney said it last night I just assumed he was saying something moronic and not a reflection of organizational thinking.
I remember that clearly. I was assuming he got it from someone in the organization., or would you guys disagree?
He's not the only one to suggest it may happen, in fact Laura Albanese wrote a piece had a piece arguing against it from Saturday aka I don't know that it's what they will actually do but there seems to be "more there" than just Buster being Buster.
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Minor League overall hitting leaders, entering 5/22:
AVG: Wade Meckler, .430
OBP: Phillip Evans, .544
SLG: Christopher Morel, .730
OPS: Jackson Holliday, 1.214
H: Ronny Mauricio, 65
HR: Jo Adell, 17
SB: Victor Scott II, 31
XBH: Mauricio, 30
TB: Mauricio, 111
wRC+: Holliday, 222
Wasn't there a former Met prospect with that name?
Wasn't there a former Met prospect with that name?
Same guy. He's 30 now. 185 wRC+ in AAA this season.
The fans refer to them as the Kids. Baby Mets is a little weird. Taking it a step further, those guys are Grade-A level talents who are all only a few years younger than some of these guys (Lindor, Alonso, and McNeil who are 29, 28, & 31 respectively).
Vientos is 23, Alvarez is 21, & Baty is 23. These guys are the young core of the team now and going forward, not babies.
Last night he got hit in the head by a batter's backswing. He jumped right up and was ready for the next play......Beast !!
His defensive numbers have been quite impressive.
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oddly had a little blurb today suggesting Buck's job security might not be as strong as one would think given the 101 win season. Rosenthal generally isn't a flat out "false rumor" guy and not much to back it up but interesting.
Music to my ears. I was watching a 5-year-old video fortuitously enough yesterday on YouTube with Buck and Jayson Stark in which Buck was talking about accountability (click below to see). His ego is getting in the way of winning now due to his inclination to not playing these kids. This job isn't a lifetime appointment, or even guaranteed through this year. Glad to hear this.
P.S. I have a lot of respect for Buck, but his blind spot will wind up costing him.
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If Buck does not make the playoffs, he is very likely gone.
To stay, if Mets miss playoffs, he would need extenuating circumstances, such as Scherzer and Pete out for season. And even then he would still need to be competitive.
Barring a total collapse, Eppler is probably safe because Cohen needs him to handle the Ohtani pursuit.
over the last 15 days: 1st among all starting catchers in HR, RBI, XBH, and OPS. He's a stud. I was all-in on him, having him in all of my dynasty leagues. He is exceeding my wildest expectations. Still only 21. At that age, Alonso was in low-A ball.
I hope by next year, the Mets start doing some Braves like deals to get these kids locked up
im just hoping carrasco and megill can give them 1 month of solid starts.
like you said by then maybe peterson and vasil are ready at least as depth options.
i think they will probably be shopping for a starter even though there arent that many appealing options out there. giolito + hendriks is really the only interesting package i can come up with at this point. trevor williams would be an interesting depth pickup since we know he can flex between rotation and bp.
yeah the issue there is you are paying for a lot of controllable service time. he's likely attainable though. cant imagine his trade value is much different than a megill or peterson.
71.1 innings last year for Vasil; 81.2 in college and 7 in the pros the year before. That's something to watch with him. My guess is he is more likely in the pen if he is called up that late.
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see why the A's are going to sell low on a cheap player but I like JP Sears as a guy who could really breakout. 9.43 K/9, 1.85 BB/9. HR ball has killed him but he's never had issues with the HR before. I find him to be intriguing. Not saying really for the Mets but don't be surprised if he breaks out.
yeah the issue there is you are paying for a lot of controllable service time. he's likely attainable though. cant imagine his trade value is much different than a megill or peterson.
I just personally think there is something there. The numbers are decent (not outstanding). Admittedly, I found this article only after already finding him intriguing but it's a pretty good read and why he might be somebody to targer.
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I'll take a combo of Stearns/Counsell in a heartbeat next season. Eppler can hang around until they sign Ohtani. Buck can go fishing.
Miami has the worst C production in baseball in 2023. Nido, @mets
are very thin in the OF.... Nido for Jake Mangum
Miami has the worst C production in baseball in 2023. Nido, @mets
are very thin in the OF.... Nido for Jake Mangum
I'd do Nidon't for Jake Mangum in a heartbeat. Hell, I'd drive him to LaGuardia!
were scrambling for SP
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I haven't been following but is the Stearns thing happening or just rumors and dot-connecting?
Catcher is/was a black hole all year with no hope until Alvarez was called up. He is not just holding his own, he is excelling.
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Francisco Álvarez has been the second best hitting catcher in MLB over the last 30 days with a 162 wRC+. #LGM
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I haven't been following but is the Stearns thing happening or just rumors and dot-connecting?
Nightengale claimed he’s heard it’s going to happen from a “source”. Keep in mind while he’s a “top” baseball writer he’s well known for getting stories wrong to the point most tweets of his have people essentially saying “so the opposite”…. We know the Mets were interested in the past and that he’ll be a FA after the WS (he’s also friendly/friends with Eppler) and previously worked for the Mets. His wife apparently preferred Houston before this season but who knows?
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
What do you think is going on?
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
I think the question should be who doesn't find it strange? Cohen needs to step in because left to their druthers, Buck and Eppler would send Alvarez down to protect their pet vets.
It would be the definition of stupidity if they send Alvarez back down.
“ Who said the stats call for demotion?
They have two veteran catchers who they value and intend to play. The priority is to play Alvarez to help him get better defensive”
My response to Buster on twitter…
Buster… all due respect.. he’s 89th percentile framing, 63rd % pop time, 8th in the league in blocks above average. The data does not support the narrative. I’m sure you’ll cite “private” data teams are privy to but c’mon…
Adding to that… is the baseline now gold glove or bust? Even the eye test says he’s been very solid defensively
It would be the definition of stupidity if they send Alvarez back down.
“ Who said the stats call for demotion?
They have two veteran catchers who they value and intend to play. The priority is to play Alvarez to help him get better defensive”
My response to Buster on twitter…
Buster… all due respect.. he’s 89th percentile framing, 63rd % pop time, 8th in the league in blocks above average. The data does not support the narrative. I’m sure you’ll cite “private” data teams are privy to but c’mon…
Adding to that… is the baseline now gold glove or bust? Even the eye test says he’s been very solid defensively
NICE! Thank you Dan for shutting that shill down. IF Buck is using the media to make this a me vs. them narrative, then I'm sorry, he needs to go. The priority needs to be on winning. Did Buster respond Dan?
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
Suspension?
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
trying to leverage something out of someone who is looking to add a catcher?
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Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
trying to leverage something out of someone who is looking to add a catcher?
That's a good point Eric.
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How public Alvarez pending “demotion” is??
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
trying to leverage something out of someone who is looking to add a catcher?
That's a Wilpon thing to do.
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How public Alvarez pending “demotion” is??
Because the Mets don’t want to risk losing one of three replaceable Cs?
Strange, right?
trying to leverage something out of someone who is looking to add a catcher?
That's a Wilpon thing to do.
wilpons would never pay for 4 big league catchers. they barely ever paid for 1.
@PitchingNinja
Colin Holderman, Ridiculous Elevated 101mph Two Seamer with 16 inches of Run 😲
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Colin Holderman, Ridiculous Elevated 101mph Two Seamer with 16 inches of Run 😲
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ok I laughed at that.
So, not only would it be ridiculously stupid from a baseball perspective to send Alvarez down, it would be from a team building perspective. Outman has fallen back down to earth a bit. Alvarez has a .7 WAR to his 1.0 WAR, despite playing less than 60% the amount of games. Corbin Carroll is the obvious leader, with a 1.5 WAR, but things happen. Injuries happen.
Per the article, 2nd and 3rd place finishers get picks in the international draft. Unclear what that means.
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A position where the Mets had been among the worst before he was called up.
If it's about winning games this should not even be a discussion.
If someone has to tell the Mets front office to keep him up for the remote chance to get a 1st round comp pick or even an INTL pick or conversely to send Alvarez down so the Mets can shop the AAAA catchers to maybe get something back in return for them in a trade instead of cutting them - then the Mets front office is run by morons.
Coming off a season where the Mets lost the division by percentage points, messing around with this stuff for no good reason is why it will happen again. May wins count.
A position where the Mets had been among the worst before he was called up.
If it's about winning games this should not even be a discussion.
If someone has to tell the Mets front office to keep him up for the remote chance to get a 1st round comp pick or even an INTL pick or conversely to send Alvarez down so the Mets can shop the AAAA catchers to maybe get something back in return for them in a trade instead of cutting them - then the Mets front office is run by morons.
Coming off a season where the Mets lost the division by percentage points, messing around with this stuff for no good reason is why it will happen again. May wins count.
Agreed 100%. My point was not only that it makes zero sense baseball wise to send Alvarez, but baseball is now incentivizing teams to keep young guys up. The Mets obviously shouldn't have to be incentivized to keep up one of the best hitting catchers in the game, but it would be even more moronic not to considering baseball is awarding teams that do so.
(I think the international picks were for if there was an international draft)
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The new CBA I believe called for a draft of international players rather than the current free for all. If an eligible prospect comes in 2nd or 3rd in Rookie of the Year vote then you will get extra pick(s) in that draft.
A position where the Mets had been among the worst before he was called up.
If it's about winning games this should not even be a discussion.
If someone has to tell the Mets front office to keep him up for the remote chance to get a 1st round comp pick or even an INTL pick or conversely to send Alvarez down so the Mets can shop the AAAA catchers to maybe get something back in return for them in a trade instead of cutting them - then the Mets front office is run by morons.
Coming off a season where the Mets lost the division by percentage points, messing around with this stuff for no good reason is why it will happen again. May wins count.
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Heads should roll if that is in fact what their intention is. If I were Cohen I'd just go up to Eppler and Buck and be like, "You can send him down, but if he goes down then so does one of you." Let's see how much they'll stick to their guns then.
there's a reason they first went for beane, epstein, melvin.
stearns is interesting bc of how well thought of he seems to be and i expect that to happen, but im also not sure he's any kind of savior. his resume is good but nowhere near the other 3.
you dont need perfect to get hot at the right time though. once they missed on correa they sort of went all in on the kids this year so this was always likely to be some kind of transition year. they just kept trying to put it off as long as possible. the kids are showing that not all transitions need a step backwards though.
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the Mets make the playoffs, Buck will be back (and almost certainly be offered an extension) a lameduck manager in NY is exceedingly rare and with Cohen's money he'd presumably understand he *likely* would have to eat some. Obviously, it's worth monitoring Stearns/Counsell as a potential combo platter.
I haven't been following but is the Stearns thing happening or just rumors and dot-connecting?
Nightengale claimed he’s heard it’s going to happen from a “source”. Keep in mind while he’s a “top” baseball writer he’s well known for getting stories wrong to the point most tweets of his have people essentially saying “so the opposite”…. We know the Mets were interested in the past and that he’ll be a FA after the WS (he’s also friendly/friends with Eppler) and previously worked for the Mets. His wife apparently preferred Houston before this season but who knows?
The wife will be fine in Greenwich.
Just the thought of Alvarez being sent down makes me seriously want to punch a wall, and I'm not a violent person.
Fans usually don't want owners meddling with team ops, but that's assuming you have people in charge making good decisions.
I would support Cohen stepping in and saying wait a minute fellas, you're not going to do that (send Alvarez down). That shouldn't be necessary, but it might be.
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international signings not eligible for PPI, so Yoshida and Senga not eligible. Makes sense. We were talking about that earlier in the year.
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The new CBA I believe called for a draft of international players rather than the current free for all. If an eligible prospect comes in 2nd or 3rd in Rookie of the Year vote then you will get extra pick(s) in that draft.
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if you just made an all mets lineup and added in gimenez and maybe conforto with rosario as a utility guy, it's almost as good as the version with lindor and marte. conforto seems to have rediscovered his power and hit into some bad luck but his ops is still 740 and climbing. he always seemed like a good guy so hopefully things work out.
as long as tramuta and tanous are in the org building the system and cohen is writing checks i think we can be bullish that they will have a chance any given year. it really wasnt that long ago that opening day lineups across multiple seasons were littered with guys like thole, tejada, ike davis.
Fans usually don't want owners meddling with team ops, but that's assuming you have people in charge making good decisions.
I would support Cohen stepping in and saying wait a minute fellas, you're not going to do that (send Alvarez down). That shouldn't be necessary, but it might be.
i think so. he stepped in on the correa move.
to some degree if you have a very strong owner they are the gm on the bigger decisions. especially if you also have a mushy gm.
if they had negotiated the parameters of a soto deal last year for example, either way that would have been ultimately decided by cohen.
if you just made an all mets lineup and added in gimenez and maybe conforto with rosario as a utility guy, it's almost as good as the version with lindor and marte. conforto seems to have rediscovered his power and hit into some bad luck but his ops is still 740 and climbing. he always seemed like a good guy so hopefully things work out.
as long as tramuta and tanous are in the org building the system and cohen is writing checks i think we can be bullish that they will have a chance any given year. it really wasnt that long ago that opening day lineups across multiple seasons were littered with guys like thole, tejada, ike davis.
Great post Eric. Those guys are something else. I'm glad nobody else across MLB has stepped in and tried to poach them. now we need starting pitchers to come up in the system. That's the next challenge (perhaps some power corner OFers too).
The Mets would be the best team overall with Narvaez backing up Alvarez and playing one to two times per week.
However, Narvaez would probably hold a terrific amount of trade value.
What kind of bullpen arms could Narvaez return?
If you are going to keep Alvy with the big club to be the #1 catcher, it makes sense to trade some of these guys. You can't demote Sanchez or Nido to AAA right? And Narvaez holds the most value. MLB Trade Rumors said the Giants, Twins, Tigers and Reds all had interest.
I think the Twins could really use him. Could they get a Matt Canterino and a lottery ticket for him?
Shouldn't the Mets either look to trade 1 or even 2 of these catchers not named Alvarez for pitching talent in either the minors or a good major league arm for the bullpen?
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
that is the guy to get. keep an eye on him as he returns over the next few weeks.
i think it's mostly posturing. i think they move sanchez for a crappy bp arm somewhere that needs a catcher because he's cheap.
nido/narvaez is the decision, and id guess they just use the IL to delay that decision for as long as they need to if alvarez is hitting. the eye sight thing is probably a very fortunate diagnosis because nido can self report that he's blurry any time.
this is exactly the type of move i could see.
and the closer to the deadline maybe something like nido for a trevor williams type if they need that.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
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last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
I do not think the Twins believe Narvaez is such a substantial upgrade that they are taking on an additional commitment of whatever he's owed of his 8 this season and likely 7 more next season when they owe Vazquez 10, 10, 10. Paying nearly 20 million the next 2 seasons for those 2 does not seem particularly feasible AND giving up talent? Last 3 seasons Vazquez is 6th in fWAR at C. He's been awful to start but they aren't pulling the plug 118 Pa's into signing him. Jeffers has a 119 wRC+ in limited time this season as well. Don't see the fit.
That's fine. Keep him on the DL as insurance. Like the Loup idea for a C (I think Herget is a pipe dream, as you acknowledge)
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That's fine. Keep him on the DL as insurance. Like the Loup idea for a C (I think Herget is a pipe dream, as you acknowledge)
Only mentioned Herget because they sent him down after a terrible 12 game run with the Angels and has been just as bad since being sent down. That being said, 2 options left, no real reason to move on.
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One Mets pitcher suggested that if the team options Francisco Álvarez, the pitching staff "will be angry"
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“Guys love him,” said another member of the staff. “He cares so much.”
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One Mets pitcher suggested that if the team options Francisco Álvarez, the pitching staff "will be angry"
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Good. The more reasons to not send him down, the better. Besides loving to throw to him, I'm sure the staff doesn't mind not having an empty spot in the lineup
Didn't realize the Canterino injury. I suppose you're right about Twins fit, but that's not the only team out there.
But teams would look at context...last year Narvaez had a career-low BABIP of .248 that was 54 points off his career average, it was just under 300 plate appearances and 84 games, right, and he still graded out as a plus WAR player because of his defensive acumen (1.1). He was a 2.8 WAR player just the year prior. I find it hard to believe there would be nothing of value to be gained from moving him. I'd prefer Nido and Sanchez get traded, but this team really needs some pitching help in the bullpen and throughout the minor league system, and I don't think those guys would really bring back anything at all.
However, if no deal is to be had on any of these guys, just release whoever you need to.
But last thing on potential trades...I'm not talking about some fantastic compensation...The White Sox got Jake Diekman for Reese McGuire last year. Minnesota got Kiner-Falefa and Ronny Henriquez for Mitch Garver last year.
That's pretty good. Lot's of catchers got traded last year. Some twice. Most weren't catchers that were all that noteworthy.
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last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
in the offseason they had the choice and they paid vazquez almost double what any other team was willing to pay narvaez. do you think the 5 games narvaez played changed their minds?
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#Mets No. 4 prospect Ronny Mauricio is batting .397 with 15 RBIs in May and leads the Minors with 21 doubles on the season.
i dont think the mets are alone in valuing nido's defense. youre right washington may not be the best fit but they also may not have that many takers for williams' contract since it has a 2nd year. nido makes a lot less than that but does clear a little money off the mets books to offset some of the williams $.
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Tidwell has been very disappointing so far this season. Hopefully, he gets going. He was never a realistic 2023 option but the hope had to be a second half pitching well in AA.
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last year he didnt play well enough to play everyday.
he was just a FA and he got paid below league average.
he's mostly been hurt this year.
he's a good backup catcher but at 8m per that's expensive enough that if they DFA'd him he'd probably go uncclaimed. they had to pay baltimore take mccann off their hands at a price not far off from that. they would probably have to pay narvaez off too and even then the return wouldnt be any different than whatever is on waivers.
their best path to a good trade is taking on $ from a team looking to save $. just like atlanta and iglesias last year.
Looking around the league at some of the catcher situations I really struggle to believe that's true. His yearly salary for 2023 is 7th highest in baseball, tied with d'Arnaud. He was an All-Star as recent as 2021, has a good defensive catcher reputation, and the injury was soft-tissue. It seems like he had a fairly robust market for his services in the off-season, so I don't see any reason why he would have zero trade value because of a calf-strain he's 98% recovered from.
Do you think the Twins wouldn't rather have Narvaez over Vasquez and Jeffers?
in the offseason they had the choice and they paid vazquez almost double what any other team was willing to pay narvaez. do you think the 5 games narvaez played changed their minds?
Yeah I didn't realize the outlay the Twins made on Vazquez, so obviously no. Some of you guys follow MLB free agency more than I do, I just follow what the Mets are doing, mostly.
if any team offered to take his full contract right now - which is about $10m left this year plus a 15m deferred buyout or option next year, i have to think the white sox would be tempted to consider that.
there are obviously some very fair reasons to think his velo may come back over the next month or two but would they be willing to gamble $25m hoping he gets that velo back and does enough to bring back anything of value by the deadline?
Former high draft choice with some ML experience.
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One Mets pitcher suggested that if the team options Francisco Álvarez, the pitching staff "will be angry"
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They would understandably be angry. He gives them a better chance to WIN! Isn't that what it's SUPPOSED to be about?!
I'm very glad to see this. Hard to believe everyone can see it would be a big mistake, except possibly the one or two who are making the decision. I hope this gets back to them. Hope it gets back to Uncle Steve.
It would be ridiculously bad judgment to send him down. We lost the freaking div last yr on a tie breaker and they pissed away multiple games already this yr by being stubborn about the kids.
Former high draft choice with some ML experience.
Bundy has been beyond bad so far in Syracuse. 12 homers allowed over 25 innings
it will be interesting to see what his exit velo looks like whenever they bring him up to AAA. would think that should happen in the next month or so. one of the more impressive years i can remember still with a very modest babip in the kind of normal range (.340). i figure it will be low but who knows he's on a 20 homer/50xbh pace. anything mcneil-ish would be a good sign i think.
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he uncoils like mcneil. very interesting little prospect.
Haha. Same about the ham.
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Ex-Red Sox prospect?
diaz is having a great year but he is also 32 and historically not been good.
daniel bard or brad hand maybe? their bullpen has been pretty strong this year beyond both of them and they could save some $ while filling the C spot. bard has a sub-1 era but his peripherals are awful. he's walking 7 guys per 9. hand probably the more sensible target.
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Same one. Still only 24.
diaz is having a great year but he is also 32 and historically not been good.
daniel bard or brad hand maybe? their bullpen has been pretty strong this year beyond both of them and they could save some $ while filling the C spot. bard has a sub-1 era but his peripherals are awful. he's walking 7 guys per 9. hand probably the more sensible target.
With the way Colorado is using Bard my assumption is he's not yet ready for pressure spots so bringing him to NY might not be ideal (or even something they would want to subject him to). He's had ongoing issues with anxiety.
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their backup catcher is currently austin wynns and he's been cut twice already this year. he's 32 and hitting .185 with a 45% k rate.
diaz is having a great year but he is also 32 and historically not been good.
daniel bard or brad hand maybe? their bullpen has been pretty strong this year beyond both of them and they could save some $ while filling the C spot. bard has a sub-1 era but his peripherals are awful. he's walking 7 guys per 9. hand probably the more sensible target.
With the way Colorado is using Bard my assumption is he's not yet ready for pressure spots so bringing him to NY might not be ideal (or even something they would want to subject him to). He's had ongoing issues with anxiety.
maybe im not sure whoever the mets get at this stage would pitch late, just another option ahead of smith/otto/raley/robertson. he was here a couple years ago so who knows.
you can close your eyes and point at anyone in the COL BP and they'd be an upgrade here (and vice versa with the mets C room for COL).
Outside of Mauricio, he has to be the best minor league surprise so far this season, unless I'm missing someone. I see he has 8 starts in CF this year and has played some CF in prior years. What are the reports on him sticking at CF defensively? I know I saw an excellent diving catch of his the other day. If the Mets wind up dealing Ramirez, would be nice to have Rudick as a 4th OF option down the road in the majors who can play a capable CF
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Rudick now 3-4, HR, 2B, SB, 3 runs, 3 rbi. Average up to .322. Just a completely massive start to the season for a guy who I don't believe was on *any* Mets top 30-40 prospects lists that I saw
Outside of Mauricio, he has to be the best minor league surprise so far this season, unless I'm missing someone. I see he has 8 starts in CF this year and has played some CF in prior years. What are the reports on him sticking at CF defensively? I know I saw an excellent diving catch of his the other day. If the Mets wind up dealing Ramirez, would be nice to have Rudick as a 4th OF option down the road in the majors who can play a capable CF
When he was drafted it was suggested his range/arm would be subpar in CF. If that's changed, you're guess is as good as mine.
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Mets pitching change: Tylor Megill will face the Cubs today, Kodai Senga tomorrow.
This tweak prevents them from having to use Senga on normal rest Sunday. He has gotten extra rest — by major-league norms, anyway — every start this season.
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Mets pitching change: Tylor Megill will face the Cubs today, Kodai Senga tomorrow.
This tweak prevents them from having to use Senga on normal rest Sunday. He has gotten extra rest — by major-league norms, anyway — every start this season.
Also sets him up to pitch vs. Phillies rather than Rockies. Would be scheduled then for next Sunday vs. Blue Jays, but they could push him back until that Tuesday vs. Braves
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Why not actually try and set this kid up for success Buck? Why give a AAAA washout like Sanchez so much faith? It's not like he's even a big clubhouse guy having been here for less than a week. I just don't get it.
i misread your last post and thought you meant hand, i agree bard isnt a great fit right now for that and the salary. he is walking so many guys and costs a lot just not really worth it.
hand is a guy who has been dfa'd more than sanchez and he's older that's a reasonable 1 for 1. it could be argued nido has more value over 2 reasonable years than hand for just 1 (at the same $).
that's a deal i think id do though. he has good numbers this year, a second lefty, and he has late game experience. the velocity is still there who knows.
kind of agree. i very much think they are trying to showcase sanchez.
also 1 thing to remember re alvarez - he is on pace to catch more innings than he ever has in a prior year. last year he did the same and had the ankle issue in september.
unlike other positions i dont mind a little extra rest for a catcher. just dont send him down.
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had Bard on my fantasy team so I was following him and they really have used him in the lowest leverage situations imaginable. Maybe that changes but it almost feels like it would be cruel to him if he's dealing with stuff to send him to NY.
i misread your last post and thought you meant hand, i agree bard isnt a great fit right now for that and the salary. he is walking so many guys and costs a lot just not really worth it.
hand is a guy who has been dfa'd more than sanchez and he's older that's a reasonable 1 for 1. it could be argued nido has more value over 2 reasonable years than hand for just 1 (at the same $).
that's a deal i think id do though. he has good numbers this year, a second lefty, and he has late game experience. the velocity is still there who knows.
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Mark Canha is 1/12 with 3 k's vs. Smyly for his career, Pham 1-5 with a HR. Biggest takeaway should be allowing Baty to start at 3b vs. a lefty vs. Escobar at 3b or Vientos. Vientos is also hitting 5th. TBH, less to complain about than usual
kind of agree. i very much think they are trying to showcase sanchez.
also 1 thing to remember re alvarez - he is on pace to catch more innings than he ever has in a prior year. last year he did the same and had the ankle issue in september.
unlike other positions i dont mind a little extra rest for a catcher. just dont send him down.
Thanks for talking me off the ledge.
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2 - They're probably showcasing Sanchez so they can possibly get something for him. I don't know what they can get for him, but there are some clubs around MLB that could possibly use him. Might as well try.
2- If Escobar starts at 3b, then the complaint is that you're sitting Baty.
3- They are letting Baty face a lefty vs. a stupid platoon
4- They are hitting Vientos 5th
5- Yeah, McNeil could have started over Pham in LF but McNeil is 0-5 vs. Smyly and now is the time to trot Pham out there in clear "facing lefty" situations and/or find out if they need an upgrade from him. If not now, when?
6- Keeping McNeil's legs fresh isn't the worst idea given his history of leg issues
7. I don't expect much from Gary Sanchez but he's the kind of bat a guy like Barnes/Hinske might want to work with. A guy who is "talented" but never really figured it out. Let's not forget 2016-2017 Gary Sanchez over 175 games had a .923 OPS, 2019 he had an .841 OPS. He's not a complete zero for his career.
Q: if you had a pitcher who will serve as an "opener" would you keep them in your lineup that day? In question is Matt Strahm (PHI) and I believe he will only be the opener today and I'm not sure much good can come from that. he can't get the win since he's not going 5, and he can't get the save obviously. What would you do?
I can replace him in my lineup with a reliever like Bryan Abreu (HOU) or Jorge Lopez (MIN) - both middle relievers with W/S potential and decent ratios (my league has ratios like WHIP, K/BB as pitcher categories).
2- If Escobar starts at 3b, then the complaint is that you're sitting Baty.
3- They are letting Baty face a lefty vs. a stupid platoon
4- They are hitting Vientos 5th
5- Yeah, McNeil could have started over Pham in LF but McNeil is 0-5 vs. Smyly and now is the time to trot Pham out there in clear "facing lefty" situations and/or find out if they need an upgrade from him. If not now, when?
6- Keeping McNeil's legs fresh isn't the worst idea given his history of leg issues
7. I don't expect much from Gary Sanchez but he's the kind of bat a guy like Barnes/Hinske might want to work with. A guy who is "talented" but never really figured it out. Let's not forget 2016-2017 Gary Sanchez over 175 games had a .923 OPS, 2019 he had an .841 OPS. He's not a complete zero for his career.
Good post Dan. Spot on with the analysis.
It's nice to see Vientos moved up in the order in a good RBI spot, and Baty getting another start against the lefty. I have no problem with Escobar being in the lineup. He's pretty good against lefties and obviously having prior success against this pitcher in particular.
Q: if you had a pitcher who will serve as an "opener" would you keep them in your lineup that day? In question is Matt Strahm (PHI) and I believe he will only be the opener today and I'm not sure much good can come from that. he can't get the win since he's not going 5, and he can't get the save obviously. What would you do?
I can replace him in my lineup with a reliever like Bryan Abreu (HOU) or Jorge Lopez (MIN) - both middle relievers with W/S potential and decent ratios (my league has ratios like WHIP, K/BB as pitcher categories).
take this opinion with a grain of salt bc i retired from fantasy baseball before the era of openers so never really contemplated, but i think id make the switch you are describing. astros on an 8 game winning streak but against brewers, twins on a losing streak but against sfg. both teams are favored so like you said either one could grab a save or win.
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Q: if you had a pitcher who will serve as an "opener" would you keep them in your lineup that day? In question is Matt Strahm (PHI) and I believe he will only be the opener today and I'm not sure much good can come from that. he can't get the win since he's not going 5, and he can't get the save obviously. What would you do?
I can replace him in my lineup with a reliever like Bryan Abreu (HOU) or Jorge Lopez (MIN) - both middle relievers with W/S potential and decent ratios (my league has ratios like WHIP, K/BB as pitcher categories).
take this opinion with a grain of salt bc i retired from fantasy baseball before the era of openers so never really contemplated, but i think id make the switch you are describing. astros on an 8 game winning streak but against brewers, twins on a losing streak but against sfg. both teams are favored so like you said either one could grab a save or win.
I like Strahm and would probably keep him there. It wasn't too long ago he was in the rotation, and he was successful. And 12.8 K/9 and the sub-1.00 WHIP thus far, so that should help even if he only goes 4 IP. I could see him getting to 5 if he has some quick innings.
2- If Escobar starts at 3b, then the complaint is that you're sitting Baty.
3- They are letting Baty face a lefty vs. a stupid platoon
4- They are hitting Vientos 5th
5- Yeah, McNeil could have started over Pham in LF but McNeil is 0-5 vs. Smyly and now is the time to trot Pham out there in clear "facing lefty" situations and/or find out if they need an upgrade from him. If not now, when?
6- Keeping McNeil's legs fresh isn't the worst idea given his history of leg issues
7. I don't expect much from Gary Sanchez but he's the kind of bat a guy like Barnes/Hinske might want to work with. A guy who is "talented" but never really figured it out. Let's not forget 2016-2017 Gary Sanchez over 175 games had a .923 OPS, 2019 he had an .841 OPS. He's not a complete zero for his career.
escobar has also been very good in may. 8/22 with 2 homers. 3ks/3 walks.
obviously sss but that's a .636slg%, 1.076+ ops, and 199 rc with matching 12% walk/krate. and now a favorable matchup against a guy he crushes.
mcneil is obviously an established player who isn't going anywhere so a game off when a backup is playing well is not a big deal.
also a great bat to have on the bench for a big spot if you need him.
yes this is self sacrilege but if vientos is on an 0-3 with 3 k's and they bring in a righty in the 8th with men on, mcneil is a nice option to have behind alonso so they cant pitch around him so easily.
Good point about McNeil and his leg soreness/fatigue.
Questions for you Dan (opinion related):
In the future, when (no longer if) Mauricio comes up, can you see McNeil adjusting well to LF, perhaps even RF, despite his defensive excellence at 2B?
Also, how would Jeff playing in the OF affect his annual leg soreness vs. playing the infield? Is this better for him in the long-term or should the Mets still find a way to get Mauricio into one of those two corner OF positions going forward?
Thanks. Mauricio must have been REALLY bad in the OF for them to not try him out there this year at 'Cuse. Do you see the Mets putting their OF plan with him into action this coming offseason? Mauricio has improved a lot these past two offseason in Winterball. Hopefully that'll help him turn this corner so the Mets can keep Squirrel at 2B.
I have Miguel Castro available and Bobby Miller. We have 3 spots for closer (no Holds category). I could use a guy like Miller if he pans out, but I have plenty of young upside starters (Eury Perez, Pfaadt, Logan Allen, J.P. France, Bailey Ober).
My closers are Iglesias and Kimbrel (with Alvarado in IR spot), but I have one more spot for a RP/closer, which I have Eury Perez in at the moment, semi-punting on saves.
Does dropping Peralta for Castro or Miller make sense?
one of the things Eppler has been right about is the value of versatility. mauricio and mcneil are keys to that. if you want to give lindor a day off or dh him, mauricio slides over. vientos/alonso/baty can all work the same way. they are depth before you even have to get someone up off the bench.
eppler's fringe moves (and inability to get buck on board with kids) have driven me near crazy but i give him credit for hanging on to all the kids to this point and if we want a silver lining at least so far the adjustment curves for all of them have been relatively painless (in part because they were overly patient bringing them up).
all of us debated swapping a kid for a marlins pitcher or contreras or montas and all of them for soto or signing conforto and right now im glad we have all of them and as much available PT as possible.
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don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
Thanks. Mauricio must have been REALLY bad in the OF for them to not try him out there this year at 'Cuse. Do you see the Mets putting their OF plan with him into action this coming offseason? Mauricio has improved a lot these past two offseason in Winterball. Hopefully that'll help him turn this corner so the Mets can keep Squirrel at 2B.
He's never played a single game out there and (I could be wrong) I've never even heard them working with him in the OF in drills etc so he very well may never have seen *any* time out there. It's one thing to believe he can play out there but another to expect him to go from ZERO OF experience to MLB ready.
I have Miguel Castro available and Bobby Miller. We have 3 spots for closer (no Holds category). I could use a guy like Miller if he pans out, but I have plenty of young upside starters (Eury Perez, Pfaadt, Logan Allen, J.P. France, Bailey Ober).
My closers are Iglesias and Kimbrel (with Alvarado in IR spot), but I have one more spot for a RP/closer, which I have Eury Perez in at the moment, semi-punting on saves.
Does dropping Peralta for Castro or Miller make sense?
I would keep Peralta. If he can get a stranglehold on the Yankees closer spot that is more upside than either Castro or Miller IMO.
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don't think the Mets plan on making McNeil a full-time OFer. He's good/solid out there but he's an above average 2b and as we know, his legs for whatever the reason routinely give him issues. It appears "for now" Mauricio is only seeing time at 2b but the stated plan is to get him comfortable at 2b, 1b, OF, 3b. Sure, if Mauricio is crushing at the big league level, the obvious way to get them both into the lineup is McNeil playing more LF, but I doubt it becomes an every day thing.
Thanks. Mauricio must have been REALLY bad in the OF for them to not try him out there this year at 'Cuse. Do you see the Mets putting their OF plan with him into action this coming offseason? Mauricio has improved a lot these past two offseason in Winterball. Hopefully that'll help him turn this corner so the Mets can keep Squirrel at 2B.
He's never played a single game out there and (I could be wrong) I've never even heard them working with him in the OF in drills etc so he very well may never have seen *any* time out there. It's one thing to believe he can play out there but another to expect him to go from ZERO OF experience to MLB ready.
there was a mention a couple weeks ago from one of the beats that they are discussing putting him in the OF internally. first id seen that acknowledged.
@AnthonyDiComo
In addition to second base, which Ronny Mauricio played in a minor league game tonight for the first time in his career, Buck Showalter indicated that Mauricio could see some time at first, third and in the outfield.
The long-awaited defensive migration of Mauricio has begun.
6:30 PM · Apr 21, 2023
@AnthonyDiComo
In addition to second base, which Ronny Mauricio played in a minor league game tonight for the first time in his career, Buck Showalter indicated that Mauricio could see some time at first, third and in the outfield.
The long-awaited defensive migration of Mauricio has begun.
6:30 PM · Apr 21, 2023
Around the world! Turn him into Kevin Mitchell!
@AnthonyDiComo
In addition to second base, which Ronny Mauricio played in a minor league game tonight for the first time in his career, Buck Showalter indicated that Mauricio could see some time at first, third and in the outfield.
The long-awaited defensive migration of Mauricio has begun.
6:30 PM · Apr 21, 2023
Eric,
I’m a bit confused. I said the stated plan was for him to play all over but so far he’s seen 0 OF time.