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Giants are hiring Ryan Cowden for a front office role per
@rydunleavy
He was the VP of player personnel for the Titans since 2018. Tight with Joe Schoen after their time with the Panthers.
He also interviewed for Giants GM in 2022.
Y28 was talking about him a lot a week or two ago
Tim McDonnell is currently the Director of player personnel, but Crowder was a Vice President of player personnel with the Titans.
Something to watch. Maybe the nephew is getting a new boss?
He was interviewed for the Gm position here last year.
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Yes, it was from Dunleavy, not Skinner. Also says they are expecting to, not that he has been hired. Skinner made that leap. There has been speculation for two weeks they were going to hire him.
#Giants are expected to hire Ryan Cowden for a role in their front office, per sources.
--Cowden and Joe Schoen go back almost 20 years to time in #Panthers front office.
--Cowden interviewed for #nyg GM job before it went to Schoen.
-- Cowden was #Titans interim GM in 2022.
We'd like to think so, but John still has a vote whenever he wants one
Agreed
We haven’t been able to say that in decades
Remember, they fired a bunch of management in the personnel department last year.
We have our HC in Daboll and 2 guys who are also very clearly strong head coach candidates.
We currently have a lot of smart football minds building the team and carrying out the gameplans.
Now sure the pecking order w this Title
More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.
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people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.
We'd like to think so, but John still has a vote whenever he wants one
And what owner of any professional sports team doesn’t?
I don't think it's that. I think Joe and Dabs know what they want and the Mara/Tish are happy to give it to them. On the other hand Judge thought he knew everything... you know, the guy that put magnets on the draft board... so he never asked. Just my 2 cents.
And you know this how?
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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.
More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.
I run a Giants' website. I've never heard ANY Giants fan utter these words.
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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.
More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.
Yes finally.
But Mara did deserve it.
Expectation since Joe Schoen's introductory press conference was that, if opportunity ever presented itself, he'd bring Ryan Cowden to #NYGiants. That's happening now, as
@rydunleavy
reported.
Schoen and Cowden are very close. Schoen mentioned Cowden in his intro presser.
My understanding is that, once Tennessee went with Ran Carthon as GM, Cowden was going to be seeking another opportunity.
Giants were the obvious landing spot. My sense was that Schoen gave Cowden some space to let his Tennessee exit breath. A reunion was a no-brainer.
Cowden is respected around the league and I'm told he had other options. His title with #NYGiants is expected to be executive adviser to the GM, source confirms, as
@ProFootballTalk
noted.
Cowden interviewed for Giants GM job in January 2022, and the gig went to Schoen.
Another point on Cowden: adding his resume and reputation to Schoen's front office gives Giants depth on personnel side.
Brandon Brown and Ryan Cowden have interviewed for GM jobs, and now they're two of Schoen's trusted allies with Tim McDonnell, Dennis Hickey + Chris Rossetti
League sources to whom I have spoken believe it's only a matter of time before Brandon Brown gets a GM job, and if/when he does, Schoen has surrounded himself with another trusted ally in Cowden as they continue to build. NYG front office got even better and deeper with this hire
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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.
More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.
I run a Giants' website. I've never heard ANY Giants fan utter these words.
It’s more that some Giant fans have confirmation bias when it comes to Mara interfering and no amount of evidence to the contrary under Schoen changes that belief.
Based on what Schoen has done either Tisch told Mara to back off and he did, or Mara decided to back off. But either way Mara is not likely to interfere with Schoen.
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In comment 16120815 BlackLight said:
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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:
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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.
More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.
I run a Giants' website. I've never heard ANY Giants fan utter these words.
It’s more that some Giant fans have confirmation bias when it comes to Mara interfering and no amount of evidence to the contrary under Schoen changes that belief.
Based on what Schoen has done either Tisch told Mara to back off and he did, or Mara decided to back off. But either way Mara is not likely to interfere with Schoen.
Couldn’t agree more
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people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.
We'd like to think so, but John still has a vote whenever he wants one
He owns the team, are you suggesting he shouldn’t.
There is not 1 person on this board who owns a business and lets others do things without them.
For all the talk about earning you stripes - that is exactly what McDonnell has done. 6 years as a scout and in his 4th in management. He also spent 8 years working at Notre Dame.
Will be interesting to see how long some of these guys stay. Brandon Brown is going to be a GM much sooner rather than later. Someone needs to be ready to be his successor
Scouting assistant (2000)
Area scout (2001–2007)
National scout (2008–2012)
National scout/senior college scout (2012–2014)
Assistant director of college scouting (2014–2015)
Tennessee Titans (2016–present)
Director of player personnel (2016–2017)
Vice president of player personnel (2018–present)
Interim general manager (2022)
Treylon Burks
Nick Westbrook-Ikhine
Kyle Phillips
Racey McMath
Chris Moore
Reggie Roberson
Mason Kinsey
The Titans did draft a WR in the 7th (Colton Dowell) and signed 4 more as UDFAs, but this has to be the worst WR group in the entire NFL.
Expectation since Joe Schoen's introductory press conference was that, if opportunity ever presented itself, he'd bring Ryan Cowden to #NYGiants. That's happening now, as
@rydunleavy
reported.
Schoen and Cowden are very close. Schoen mentioned Cowden in his intro presser.
My understanding is that, once Tennessee went with Ran Carthon as GM, Cowden was going to be seeking another opportunity.
Giants were the obvious landing spot. My sense was that Schoen gave Cowden some space to let his Tennessee exit breath. A reunion was a no-brainer.
Cowden is respected around the league and I'm told he had other options. His title with #NYGiants is expected to be executive adviser to the GM, source confirms, as
@ProFootballTalk
noted.
Cowden interviewed for Giants GM job in January 2022, and the gig went to Schoen.
Another point on Cowden: adding his resume and reputation to Schoen's front office gives Giants depth on personnel side.
Brandon Brown and Ryan Cowden have interviewed for GM jobs, and now they're two of Schoen's trusted allies with Tim McDonnell, Dennis Hickey + Chris Rossetti
League sources to whom I have spoken believe it's only a matter of time before Brandon Brown gets a GM job, and if/when he does, Schoen has surrounded himself with another trusted ally in Cowden as they continue to build. NYG front office got even better and deeper with this hire
I see this as a back up plan for Brown getting a GM job in the next hiring cycle. It is very smart IMO
But Cowden and Schoen go way back and I think he would have brought him on regardless.