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Ryan Cowden hired per Dunleavy on Twitter

Aaron Thomas : 5/21/2023 6:09 pm
Talkin’ Giants

@TalkinGiants
Giants are hiring Ryan Cowden for a front office role per
@rydunleavy


He was the VP of player personnel for the Titans since 2018. Tight with Joe Schoen after their time with the Panthers.

He also interviewed for Giants GM in 2022.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/21/2023 6:19 pm : link
Is this the dude Eric has been salivating over? I know it was some dude from Titans FO.
RE: ...  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2023 6:21 pm : link
In comment 16120730 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Is this the dude Eric has been salivating over? I know it was some dude from Titans FO.


Y28 was talking about him a lot a week or two ago
Giants investing more in their front office in 16 months  
Sean : 5/21/2023 6:24 pm : link
than they did for the entire Reese & Gettleman regimes.
Will be interesting to see if he'll actually have a job title  
Ben in Tampa : 5/21/2023 6:26 pm : link
or if he'll just be in a special advisor capacity.

Tim McDonnell is currently the Director of player personnel, but Crowder was a Vice President of player personnel with the Titans.

Something to watch. Maybe the nephew is getting a new boss?
His name is Ryan Cowden, not Cowder.  
Optimus-NY : 5/21/2023 6:31 pm : link


He was interviewed for the Gm position here last year.




What you need to know about GM candidate Ryan Cowden - ( New Window )
Re: His name is Ryan Cowden, not Cowder.  
Aaron Thomas : 5/21/2023 6:34 pm : link
Dang. Thanks Optimus. I knew that and still typed Crowder LOL.
Here  
Y28 : 5/21/2023 6:44 pm : link
is Dunleavy's tweet
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Here  
k2tampa : 5/21/2023 6:53 pm : link
In comment 16120740 Y28 said:
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is Dunleavy's tweet Link - ( New Window )


Yes, it was from Dunleavy, not Skinner. Also says they are expecting to, not that he has been hired. Skinner made that leap. There has been speculation for two weeks they were going to hire him.

Citing the correct source  
aimrocky : 5/21/2023 6:55 pm : link
Seems to be a growing issue nowadays.
him. and JS  
fish3321 : 5/21/2023 6:55 pm : link
look like cousins or something
Didn’t the head of personnel position stay open last year?  
RCPhoenix : 5/21/2023 7:15 pm : link
I guess this is why?
good  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 7:15 pm : link
deal. This is an excellent move.
Here is the info from the link above  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 7:17 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy @rydunleavy

#Giants are expected to hire Ryan Cowden for a role in their front office, per sources.

--Cowden and Joe Schoen go back almost 20 years to time in #Panthers front office.
--Cowden interviewed for #nyg GM job before it went to Schoen.
-- Cowden was #Titans interim GM in 2022.
The more qualified  
Dave on the UWS : 5/21/2023 7:20 pm : link
people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.
I think  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 7:23 pm : link
we're going to see a guy or two with new titles too. I've mentioned it before, but Dennis Hickey is due for a better title.
RE: The more qualified  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2023 7:25 pm : link
In comment 16120753 Dave on the UWS said:
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people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.


We'd like to think so, but John still has a vote whenever he wants one
RE: Giants investing more in their front office in 16 months  
GoDeep13 : 5/21/2023 7:28 pm : link
In comment 16120733 Sean said:
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than they did for the entire Reese & Gettleman regimes.
Which is great. Before you can get great players, you need guys who know how to identify great players.
RE: him. and JS  
GoDeep13 : 5/21/2023 7:29 pm : link
In comment 16120746 fish3321 said:
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look like cousins or something
Said the same thing when I saw their pictures side by side
Between Daboll, Schoen, and now Cowder,  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/21/2023 7:31 pm : link
it's a crazy feeling to be finally hiring the right people in the front office.
RE: The more qualified  
Optimus-NY : 5/21/2023 7:37 pm : link
In comment 16120753 Dave on the UWS said:
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people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.


Agreed
Another guy w no prior ties  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/21/2023 7:39 pm : link
Who is insanely qualified. Very nice news
Schoen building a highly competent front office  
Rick in Dallas : 5/21/2023 7:43 pm : link
Will only help in building a SB contending team that has a highly competent coaching staff
We haven’t been able to say that in decades
If Gettlemen thought  
fanoftheteam : 5/21/2023 7:47 pm : link
He was an asset in Carolina. Then good enough for me!!
They have had the " director of college scouting" job  
blueblood : 5/21/2023 7:48 pm : link
open for well over a year..
One thing to say for Mara  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2023 7:54 pm : link
He must be giving Schoen a nice budget to work with
RE: One thing to say for Mara  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 8:00 pm : link
In comment 16120777 Bill in UT said:
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He must be giving Schoen a nice budget to work with


Remember, they fired a bunch of management in the personnel department last year.
what the pecking order now ?  
fish3321 : 5/21/2023 8:11 pm : link
is he 3rd behind Brandon Brown? or behind Kevin Abrams?
.  
ghost718 : 5/21/2023 8:16 pm : link
Wow I look at it this way right now  
Chris684 : 5/21/2023 8:27 pm : link
In the front office we have our GM and now 2 guys along with him who are Gzm material in Cowden and Brown.

We have our HC in Daboll and 2 guys who are also very clearly strong head coach candidates.

We currently have a lot of smart football minds building the team and carrying out the gameplans.
Per Pro Football Talk  
Y28 : 5/21/2023 8:56 pm : link
Executive Advisor to the General Manager

Now sure the pecking order w this Title
Mara  
ElitoCanton : 5/21/2023 9:25 pm : link
has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.
RE: Mara  
BlackLight : 5/21/2023 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:
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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.


More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.
Much needed  
JerseyCityJoe : 5/21/2023 9:56 pm : link
The Giants just keep on surprising me. In a good way.
RE: RE: The more qualified  
steve in ky : 5/21/2023 9:56 pm : link
In comment 16120756 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16120753 Dave on the UWS said:


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people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.



We'd like to think so, but John still has a vote whenever he wants one


And what owner of any professional sports team doesn’t?
RE: Giants investing more in their front office in 16 months  
Wildcardgiants : 5/21/2023 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16120733 Sean said:
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than they did for the entire Reese & Gettleman regimes.


I don't think it's that. I think Joe and Dabs know what they want and the Mara/Tish are happy to give it to them. On the other hand Judge thought he knew everything... you know, the guy that put magnets on the draft board... so he never asked. Just my 2 cents.
RE: Mara  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 11:18 pm : link
In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:
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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.


And you know this how?
RE: RE: Mara  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16120815 BlackLight said:
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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.


I run a Giants' website. I've never heard ANY Giants fan utter these words.
RE: RE: Mara  
SirLoinOfBeef : 5/21/2023 11:21 pm : link
In comment 16120815 BlackLight said:
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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.


Yes finally.

But Mara did deserve it.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2023 11:23 pm : link
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton

Expectation since Joe Schoen's introductory press conference was that, if opportunity ever presented itself, he'd bring Ryan Cowden to #NYGiants. That's happening now, as
@rydunleavy
reported.

Schoen and Cowden are very close. Schoen mentioned Cowden in his intro presser.

My understanding is that, once Tennessee went with Ran Carthon as GM, Cowden was going to be seeking another opportunity.

Giants were the obvious landing spot. My sense was that Schoen gave Cowden some space to let his Tennessee exit breath. A reunion was a no-brainer.

Cowden is respected around the league and I'm told he had other options. His title with #NYGiants is expected to be executive adviser to the GM, source confirms, as
@ProFootballTalk
noted.

Cowden interviewed for Giants GM job in January 2022, and the gig went to Schoen.

Another point on Cowden: adding his resume and reputation to Schoen's front office gives Giants depth on personnel side.
Brandon Brown and Ryan Cowden have interviewed for GM jobs, and now they're two of Schoen's trusted allies with Tim McDonnell, Dennis Hickey + Chris Rossetti

League sources to whom I have spoken believe it's only a matter of time before Brandon Brown gets a GM job, and if/when he does, Schoen has surrounded himself with another trusted ally in Cowden as they continue to build. NYG front office got even better and deeper with this hire
RE: RE: RE: Mara  
RCPhoenix : 5/21/2023 11:48 pm : link
In comment 16120844 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16120815 BlackLight said:


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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.



I run a Giants' website. I've never heard ANY Giants fan utter these words.


It’s more that some Giant fans have confirmation bias when it comes to Mara interfering and no amount of evidence to the contrary under Schoen changes that belief.

Based on what Schoen has done either Tisch told Mara to back off and he did, or Mara decided to back off. But either way Mara is not likely to interfere with Schoen.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Mara  
Big Blue '56 : 5/22/2023 5:12 am : link
In comment 16120853 RCPhoenix said:
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In comment 16120844 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 16120815 BlackLight said:


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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



More than anything else, it's clear some Giants fans want this team to have a meddling owner a la Jerry, Irsay, and (until recently), Snyder.



I run a Giants' website. I've never heard ANY Giants fan utter these words.



It’s more that some Giant fans have confirmation bias when it comes to Mara interfering and no amount of evidence to the contrary under Schoen changes that belief.

Based on what Schoen has done either Tisch told Mara to back off and he did, or Mara decided to back off. But either way Mara is not likely to interfere with Schoen.


Couldn’t agree more
RE: RE: The more qualified  
joeinpa : 5/22/2023 7:10 am : link
In comment 16120756 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16120753 Dave on the UWS said:


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people in this front office, th more it keeps John out of the mix and the decisions made will be more concrete and well thought out.



We'd like to think so, but John still has a vote whenever he wants one


He owns the team, are you suggesting he shouldn’t.
Mara  
stretch234 : 5/22/2023 7:52 am : link
He owns the team. To think he is not going to be involved is ridiculous.

There is not 1 person on this board who owns a business and lets others do things without them.

For all the talk about earning you stripes - that is exactly what McDonnell has done. 6 years as a scout and in his 4th in management. He also spent 8 years working at Notre Dame.

Will be interesting to see how long some of these guys stay. Brandon Brown is going to be a GM much sooner rather than later. Someone needs to be ready to be his successor

If the former coaches and GMs were not doing a good job  
Marty in Albany : 5/22/2023 8:06 am : link
wouldn't you expect Mr. Mara to get involved? Wouldn't you want him to get involved?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 8:20 am : link
Carolina Panthers (2000–2015)

Scouting assistant (2000)
Area scout (2001–2007)
National scout (2008–2012)
National scout/senior college scout (2012–2014)
Assistant director of college scouting (2014–2015)

Tennessee Titans (2016–present)

Director of player personnel (2016–2017)
Vice president of player personnel (2018–present)
Interim general manager (2022)
Fans  
Y28 : 5/22/2023 8:31 am : link
criticize the crap out of the Giants WR group, but take a minute to see what Cowden's WR group looked like in Tennessee:

Treylon Burks
Nick Westbrook-Ikhine
Kyle Phillips
Racey McMath
Chris Moore
Reggie Roberson
Mason Kinsey

The Titans did draft a WR in the 7th (Colton Dowell) and signed 4 more as UDFAs, but this has to be the worst WR group in the entire NFL.
I have a feeling Brandon Brown gets a GM job in a year or two  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/22/2023 8:35 am : link
so adding guys like Dennis Hickey, and now Cowden, are great to keep the ship moving if a guy like Brown does leave.
RE: ...  
Sec_149 : 5/22/2023 8:42 am : link
In comment 16120848 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Art Stapleton @art_stapleton

Expectation since Joe Schoen's introductory press conference was that, if opportunity ever presented itself, he'd bring Ryan Cowden to #NYGiants. That's happening now, as
@rydunleavy
reported.

Schoen and Cowden are very close. Schoen mentioned Cowden in his intro presser.

My understanding is that, once Tennessee went with Ran Carthon as GM, Cowden was going to be seeking another opportunity.

Giants were the obvious landing spot. My sense was that Schoen gave Cowden some space to let his Tennessee exit breath. A reunion was a no-brainer.

Cowden is respected around the league and I'm told he had other options. His title with #NYGiants is expected to be executive adviser to the GM, source confirms, as
@ProFootballTalk
noted.

Cowden interviewed for Giants GM job in January 2022, and the gig went to Schoen.

Another point on Cowden: adding his resume and reputation to Schoen's front office gives Giants depth on personnel side.
Brandon Brown and Ryan Cowden have interviewed for GM jobs, and now they're two of Schoen's trusted allies with Tim McDonnell, Dennis Hickey + Chris Rossetti

League sources to whom I have spoken believe it's only a matter of time before Brandon Brown gets a GM job, and if/when he does, Schoen has surrounded himself with another trusted ally in Cowden as they continue to build. NYG front office got even better and deeper with this hire


I see this as a back up plan for Brown getting a GM job in the next hiring cycle. It is very smart IMO
Sec_149  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 8:44 am : link
Perhaps, and that's what Art is suggesting.

But Cowden and Schoen go way back and I think he would have brought him on regardless.
RE: If the former coaches and GMs were not doing a good job  
UberAlias : 5/22/2023 8:48 am : link
In comment 16120885 Marty in Albany said:
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wouldn't you expect Mr. Mara to get involved? Wouldn't you want him to get involved?
Exactly.
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