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Ryan Cowden hired per Dunleavy on Twitter

Aaron Thomas : 5/21/2023 6:09 pm
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Giants are hiring Ryan Cowden for a front office role per
@rydunleavy


He was the VP of player personnel for the Titans since 2018. Tight with Joe Schoen after their time with the Panthers.

He also interviewed for Giants GM in 2022.
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RE: RE: Mara  
UberAlias : 5/22/2023 8:56 am : link
In comment 16120843 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



And you know this how?
Eric --he knows the exact same way you know all the negative stuff you have alleged/assumed/implied. Your Mara hate has become almost comical. Blaming for the bad is fine, we were terrible forever, but then give credit for the good. Inconsistency comes off as petty.
RE: If the former coaches and GMs were not doing a good job  
ColHowPepper : 5/22/2023 8:56 am : link
In comment 16120885 Marty in Albany said:
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wouldn't you expect Mr. Mara to get involved? Wouldn't you want him to get involved?

Yes, absolutely. But did he, under the DG Admin.? There was so much criticism, e.g., of Chris Petit, never mind DG, yet it took a clean sweep to get rid of rotting timber and bad apples. Was Mara not glued in or was it complacency or something else? Hard to credit the idea that Petit's toxicity (and incompetence?) were secrets around the league, Schoen axed him as soon as feasible.

(Marty, btw, on your rec, we took to the road to get to Kingston and Le Canard Enchainée, good meal, good fun, for our Anniversary, thanks)
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 9:02 am : link
Jordan Raanan
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The Giants are adding ex-Titans executive Ryan Cowden to their front office likely as executive advisor to the general manager.

Cowden is a well-respected evaluator. He’s especially close with Giants GM Joe Schoen. Came up together w/Panthers + were in each others weddings
UberAlias  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 9:05 am : link
(1) I've never claimed I know anything for certainty, especially with ownership. I don't automatically assume anything, including what many consider to be a given around here on both sides of the argument. What I've said is don't assume anything.

(2) I don't hate Mara. But based on a hong history of horrific decision-making, I don't trust his instincts.

(3) The only thing I am on record as stating in the past year about him with conviction is that he should stop commenting on personnel matters in public. I still stand by that. His father, who was the actual GM at one point for the team, didn't publicly walk on George Young's or Ernie Accorsi's coattails.
Here  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 9:10 am : link
is front page update with additional info...
Giants Add Ryan Cowden to Front Office; Two More Draft Picks Signed - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 9:24 am : link
Dan Duggan
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The Dwight Schrute-ian title has me thinking Cowden is still getting paid by Tennessee so Giants likely getting him at a discount for this role
RE: RE: RE: Mara  
Big Blue '56 : 5/22/2023 9:39 am : link
In comment 16120910 UberAlias said:
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In comment 16120843 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



And you know this how?

Eric --he knows the exact same way you know all the negative stuff you have alleged/assumed/implied. Your Mara hate has become almost comical. Blaming for the bad is fine, we were terrible forever, but then give credit for the good. Inconsistency comes off as petty.


Mara’s the owner. He can do what he wants..He’s allowed to be a fan as well, just as Dad and his Dad before him..He’s left Schoen and Dabes alone
RE: RE: RE: RE: Mara  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 9:58 am : link
In comment 16120935 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 16120910 UberAlias said:


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In comment 16120843 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 16120808 ElitoCanton said:


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has not interfered at all since hiring Schoen. He's letting him bring in whoever he wants and letting restructure as he sees fit. All the handwringing about Mara can end.



And you know this how?

Eric --he knows the exact same way you know all the negative stuff you have alleged/assumed/implied. Your Mara hate has become almost comical. Blaming for the bad is fine, we were terrible forever, but then give credit for the good. Inconsistency comes off as petty.



Mara’s the owner. He can do what he wants..He’s allowed to be a fan as well, just as Dad and his Dad before him..He’s left Schoen and Dabes alone


Sure. But just so you understand that he is responsible for 10 years of shit football. Bad decision making is directly responsible for bad football.
There is a difference between  
Dave on the UWS : 5/22/2023 10:14 am : link
being involved and interfering. Mara will ALWAYS be involved (JS has said that), but he's not stupid. He sees how well things are running, plus the team was successful last year. He's NOT going to interfere and prevent Schoen and Daboll from doing the jobs he hired them to do. That's becoming pretty obvious.
The time to worry is when things don't go well  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/22/2023 11:52 am : link
and Mara feels like he needs to help.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 12:13 pm : link
NFL Insider
@AngryNFLInsider
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Bang! Joe Schoen and the #Giants add another great mind to the front office. All of a sudden the Giants FO has become one of the best in the NFL. Cowden one of the best dudes available is now off the board and headed to NY to join his good buddy Joe Schoen. #NFL #NYGiants
RE: what the pecking order now ?  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/22/2023 12:36 pm : link
In comment 16120779 fish3321 said:
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is he 3rd behind Brandon Brown? or behind Kevin Abrams?

Abrams may retain legitimate ops and admin responsibilities within the front office, but he is not in Schoen's "pecking order" at all, from what I can tell. And I can't imagine that Cowden would come to the Giants if he were going to be too far down the chain, considering he was a viable GM candidate 18 months ago.
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JohnF : 5/22/2023 3:31 pm : link
In comment 16121055 Eric from BBI said:
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NFL Insider
@AngryNFLInsider
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Bang! Joe Schoen and the #Giants add another great mind to the front office. All of a sudden the Giants FO has become one of the best in the NFL. Cowden one of the best dudes available is now off the board and headed to NY to join his good buddy Joe Schoen. #NFL #NYGiants


Truly a day of firsts, Eric! When has ANYONE pronounced the Giants FO one of the best in the NFL?
the names  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 3:31 pm : link
that Schoen keeps mentioning are Hickey, Brown, Rossetti, McDonnell. I don't think Abrams is that tier, but I may be wrong.
RE: the names  
Sean : 5/22/2023 3:32 pm : link
In comment 16121228 Eric from BBI said:
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that Schoen keeps mentioning are Hickey, Brown, Rossetti, McDonnell. I don't think Abrams is that tier, but I may be wrong.

I believe Abrams got a shout out from Schoen when discussing the Jones deal.
RE: RE: the names  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2023 3:35 pm : link
In comment 16121229 Sean said:
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In comment 16121228 Eric from BBI said:


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that Schoen keeps mentioning are Hickey, Brown, Rossetti, McDonnell. I don't think Abrams is that tier, but I may be wrong.


I believe Abrams got a shout out from Schoen when discussing the Jones deal.


Because he's involved in contract discussions. But I can't recall him being mentioned in the scouting process (pro or collegiate).
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BH28 : 5/22/2023 6:23 pm : link
In comment 16120781 ghost718 said:
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What movie is that from? My mind is blanking
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