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47th Active Man QB rule passed

amindan54 : 5/22/2023 2:09 pm
will this make us carry a 3rd QB?
i knew this rule was passing, it was fait accompli.

a little surprising Schoen didnt invest more heavily into a 3rd QB (5th round pick) or FA with a guy like josh dobbs for 1-2 million.

Link here  
amindan54 : 5/22/2023 2:09 pm : link
https://twitter.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1660706462312570891
No sense wasting cap space on Josh Dobbs  
Mike in NY : 5/22/2023 2:30 pm : link
As far as QB3 in the draft I think the Round 4-5 run caused the Giants to prefer to wait until UDFA/Tryout to bring in players rather than drafting one that wasn't demonstrably better than what was available then.
Worst case, Jeff Smith lines up at QB.  
Klaatu : 5/22/2023 2:34 pm : link
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3rd QB must be on 53 man roster  
mort christenson : 5/22/2023 2:35 pm : link
No PS elevation allowed. So you'd have to commit to it by keeping a roster spot.
I'm glad  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2023 2:37 pm : link
they did not invest more heavily in a 3rd QB.

Tommy DeVito is the guy or whoever else is the 3rd QB.
How does this rule interact with the eight OL rule?  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/22/2023 2:56 pm : link
Might as well just say “Dress 47”.
Not a huge fan for this QB special treatment  
UConn4523 : 5/22/2023 3:01 pm : link
make teams chew up a roster spot like every other position.
If the NFL wanted  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2023 3:19 pm : link
to be fun, they should treat the 3rd QB like the NHL treats the EBUG (Emergency Backup Goalie) - the home team has to supply it for both teams.

There is a list of eligible goalies, they need to be at the game with their gear, and in the event they're needed (for either team) they get called on to play.

it has happened a few times in recent history, including a couple years ago where the 42 year old Zamboni driver at Scotiabank Arena (Toronto) was the EBUG and the visiting Hurricanes had two goalie injuries in the game and needed an emergency backup, so the EBUG, David Ayres, came in and beat the Maple Leafs.

I think it would be fun.
RE: 3rd QB must be on 53 man roster  
amindan54 : 5/22/2023 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16121180 mort christenson said:
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No PS elevation allowed. So you'd have to commit to it by keeping a roster spot.


keeping a guy who will dress every game no matter what and can be called upon for injury on the most important position of the field, i think thts way more worthy than carrying a 9th OL or 12th DB. I think this will make more teams carry 3 QBs on the roster knowing theres insurance every single game.
I would like to see the rule allow a QB on the practice squad to be  
Ivan15 : 5/22/2023 5:23 pm : link
In uniform on game day and if he is used as an emergency QB, the team loses one practice squad activation for the following game.

Being on the practice squad, the player can still be poached by another team. Some teams will carry 3 QBs on the roster so that can’t happen.
Here's the actual text, from nfl.com:  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/22/2023 8:18 pm : link
Quote:
Full language of the updated bylaw:

One hour and 30 minutes prior to kickoff, each club is required to establish its Active List for the game by notifying the Referee of the players on its Inactive List for that game. Each club may also designate one emergency third quarterback from its 53-player Active/Inactive List (i.e., elevated players are not eligible for designation) who will be eligible to be activated during the game, if the club's first two quarterbacks on its game day Active List are not able to participate in the game due to injury or disqualification (activation cannot be a result of a head coach's in-game decision to remove a player from the game due to performance or conduct). If either of the injured quarterbacks is cleared by the medical staff to return to play, the emergency third quarterback must be removed from the game and is not permitted to continue to play quarterback or any other position, but is eligible to return to the game to play quarterback if another emergency third quarterback situation arises.

A club is not eligible to use these procedures if it carries three quarterbacks on its game day Active List [47- or 48-players in 2023].
If I read that correctly, the emergency QB is either...  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/22/2023 8:25 pm : link
...the 49th player in uniform if the team dresses at least eight offensive linemen, or the 48th otherwise. He's officially inactive, but can be activated mid-game if both active QBs are injured. Interesting that he must exit if the medical staff clears one of the other two QBs to re-enter the game.

I doubt the Giants will carry three QBs on the roster, so the change seems unlikely to help them.
RE: Here's the actual text, from nfl.com:  
jeff57 : 5/23/2023 8:27 am : link
In comment 16121401 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Quote:


Full language of the updated bylaw:

One hour and 30 minutes prior to kickoff, each club is required to establish its Active List for the game by notifying the Referee of the players on its Inactive List for that game. Each club may also designate one emergency third quarterback from its 53-player Active/Inactive List (i.e., elevated players are not eligible for designation) who will be eligible to be activated during the game, if the club's first two quarterbacks on its game day Active List are not able to participate in the game due to injury or disqualification (activation cannot be a result of a head coach's in-game decision to remove a player from the game due to performance or conduct). If either of the injured quarterbacks is cleared by the medical staff to return to play, the emergency third quarterback must be removed from the game and is not permitted to continue to play quarterback or any other position, but is eligible to return to the game to play quarterback if another emergency third quarterback situation arises.

A club is not eligible to use these procedures if it carries three quarterbacks on its game day Active List [47- or 48-players in 2023].



Makes sense.
I wonder if that final, bracketed phrase is correct.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/23/2023 9:12 am : link
IIRC, the previous limit was 46/47, with the 47th allowed as long as the team dressed at least eight offensive linemen. Unless there has been another change for 2023, the reference to "47- or 48-players" might be an error.

Frankly, the nfl.com piece is a mess. The headline states:
Quote:
NFL owners pass proposal to allow teams to have third QB active on game days without using roster spot


That directly contradicts the quoted text of rule change:
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Each club may also designate one emergency third quarterback from its 53-player Active/Inactive List (i.e., elevated players are not eligible for designation) who will be eligible to be activated during the game, if the club's first two quarterbacks on its game day Active List are not able to participate in the game due to injury or disqualification...
(Italics added to both quotes.)

One would hope a writer for nfl.com would know the significance of the 53-man roster.
nfl.com article on rule change - ( New Window )
Of course, reporters often don't write their own headlines.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/23/2023 9:19 am : link
So the contradiction may have arisen from a headline writer / web admin misinterpreting the article.

Anyway, it seems QB3 needs to be on the 53-man roster, so the Eagles can dress Ian Book or Tanner McKee. The Cowboys can dress Will Grier if he and Cooper Rush are both on the roster, which seems plausible.
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