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Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 3:11 pm
Ground beef is probably my favorite go-to for simple comfort foods- meatballs, burgers, stuffed cabbage, sloppy Joes, Shepherd's pie, etc. And meatloaf.

Here's the recipe for the meatloaf I made Sunday night. I had it then with cauliflower "mashed potatoes" and yesterday on a sandwich. Really, the only thing quick is that I don't dice and cook onions or garlic.

Bill's Quick Meatloaf

Ingredients
2 pounds ground beef
2 eggs
1 cup bread or saltine (20) crumbs soaked in milk
1/4 cup chopped dried onion
1 Tbs garlic powder
1 Tbs dijon mustard
1 Tbs worsty sauce
1/4 cup bbq sauce
1 Tbs S&P (2 tsp salt, 1 tsp pepper)
ketchup, bbq sauce, worsty sauce, cider vinegar- for glaze
Directions
Heat oven to 350. Mix all ingredients except ketchup glaze. Transfer to glass baking pan. Bake about 45 minutes, then cover top with glaze. Bake until you reach 165 degrees, about another 15 minutes

I'm now using low carb bread- 2 slices in the food processor, for bread crumbs. The glaze is about 2 Tbs each of bbq sauce and ketchup, a few shakes or Worsty and a splash of vinegar. I know lots of people like the meat mix-beef/pork/veal, but I'm good with just beef. I've also done recipes that include multiple sauteed veggies, ricotta, rice or oatmeal. What do you like?
I thought  
dlauster : 5/22/2023 3:11 pm : link
This was about the singer. 😆
RE: I thought  
bluefin : 5/22/2023 3:12 pm : link
In comment 16121207 dlauster said:
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This was about the singer. 😆

You took the words right out of my mouth.
RE: RE: I thought  
BamaBlue : 5/22/2023 3:21 pm : link
In comment 16121208 bluefin said:
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In comment 16121207 dlauster said:


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This was about the singer. 😆


You took the words right out of my mouth.


Nailed it!
The best  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2023 3:38 pm : link
meatloaf I ever had was served at this place in Chantilly, VA called the Amish Market.

they sold home made furniture, candles, clothing, etc. and also had a cafe/restaurant that served I think just three options (or at least I never got past these three if there were more)...Open faced turkey, ham (?), and meatloaf sandwiches.

the meatloaf was more like a Salisbury steak though, no ketchup or barbecue sauce, it was served with gravy and sides (you could pick) like buttered noodles, mashed potatoes, green beans, etc.

I have looked for a recipe like that and never found it.

lol, if I ever  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 3:39 pm : link
do a thread about Iced Tea, I'll have to be more careful
RE: The best  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 3:54 pm : link
In comment 16121233 pjcas18 said:
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meatloaf I ever had was served at this place in Chantilly, VA called the Amish Market.

they sold home made furniture, candles, clothing, etc. and also had a cafe/restaurant that served I think just three options (or at least I never got past these three if there were more)...Open faced turkey, ham (?), and meatloaf sandwiches.

the meatloaf was more like a Salisbury steak though, no ketchup or barbecue sauce, it was served with gravy and sides (you could pick) like buttered noodles, mashed potatoes, green beans, etc.

I have looked for a recipe like that and never found it.


I did a search on Amish meatloaf. Serveral of them used oats instead of bread/crackers, but most of them were pretty similar to what I posted. Maybe some brown sugar instead of bbq sauce, but bbq sauce usually has brown sugar in it.
I love doing a  
RicFlair : 5/22/2023 3:58 pm : link
Bulgogi meatloaf with a gochujang glaze on top.
RE: RE: I thought  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 4:00 pm : link
In comment 16121208 bluefin said:
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In comment 16121207 dlauster said:


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This was about the singer. 😆


You took the words right out of my mouth.


Maybe next time I make it, I'll use beef and pork instead of beef/pork/veal, cause 2 out of 3 ain't bad
Bill it looked like  
pjcas18 : 5/22/2023 4:03 pm : link
this, "Farmhouse Meatloaf" in fact this meal looks like what they served at the Amish Market.

Just doesn't seem like ketchup or barbecue sauce really belong on this meatloaf.

Now you're talking my language  
D HOS : 5/22/2023 4:08 pm : link
I have made meatloaf for my kids about 28 times. I have read volumes of recipes and advice. I think four times it came out very good. The other times were between "not too bad" down to "ugh please make something else".

I will try your recipe even as I keep tinkering with mine.

If you ever start talking bacon, waffles, pancakes and french toast, I have those perfected. I would go up against waffle house or ihop on those any day of the week, especially sunday mornings. Oh I make a really great dad burger too.
Beyond Meat  
D HOS : 5/22/2023 4:12 pm : link
One of my boys doesn't do meat, so I keep trying beyond meat meatloaf as well. It works just fine, and if you lean into the flavor a bit more, it tastes perfectly acceptable to a carnivore. Tends to be drier and cook faster though so go a touch more on the wet ingredients and don't overcook it.
RE: Bill it looked like  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 4:18 pm : link
In comment 16121254 pjcas18 said:
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this, "Farmhouse Meatloaf" in fact this meal looks like what they served at the Amish Market.

Just doesn't seem like ketchup or barbecue sauce really belong on this meatloaf.


Idk, depending on what you like, it could go either way. I looked up "Farmhouse Meatloaf" recipes and some had ketchup/bbq sauce. Your picture shows beef gravy on the potatoes, but not poured over the meatloaf which I'd do with a Salisbury steak. But the meatloaf does have a shiny top. I don't know what that is.
RE: I love doing a  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 4:28 pm : link
In comment 16121246 RicFlair said:
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Bulgogi meatloaf with a gochujang glaze on top.


I looked at some recipes and they seem to be made with ground meat, not strips, with bulgogi flavors added. Is that what you do? I do a gochujang glaze on chicken, it should be great on a meatloaf. Thanks for the idea.
I add cream of mushroom soup  
BLUATHRT : 5/22/2023 4:59 pm : link
and chopped onion to mine. It add a dimension of flavor and tenderness.
Bill in UT  
Daniel in Kentucky : 5/22/2023 5:07 pm : link
I usually sauté crimini mushrooms and also add shredded cheddar cheese to my meatloaf. Super good!
Also some finely minced red peepers for sweetness  
Daniel in Kentucky : 5/22/2023 5:08 pm : link
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Sautéd as well  
Daniel in Kentucky : 5/22/2023 5:09 pm : link
.
Mustard  
MattinKY : 5/22/2023 5:40 pm : link
seems to be the key to a good meatloaf, although I use powder over liquid.

Celery is another great flavor adder.

I also use tomato sauce for moisture and no egg as the grass fed beef I use has plenty of fat to hold it all together.

About 50% of the time I will slow cook it on a double layer of perforated foil in the smoker.

It's really hard to beat a good meatloaf for a rib sticker meal.
RE: RE: I love doing a  
RicFlair : 5/22/2023 6:42 pm : link
In comment 16121273 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16121246 RicFlair said:


Quote:


Bulgogi meatloaf with a gochujang glaze on top.



I looked at some recipes and they seem to be made with ground meat, not strips, with bulgogi flavors added. Is that what you do? I do a gochujang glaze on chicken, it should be great on a meatloaf. Thanks for the idea.




Oh yeah of course ground beef.
RE: Now you're talking my language  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 6:52 pm : link
In comment 16121258 D HOS said:
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If you ever start talking bacon, waffles, pancakes and french toast, I have those perfected. I would go up against waffle house or ihop on those any day of the week, especially sunday mornings. Oh I make a really great dad burger too.

I love all those things, but being low carb waffles or pancakes are infrequent treats, especially since I drown them in syrup. Now that I've found low carb bread, I can do some French toast, but it's not the same as challah
RE: I add cream of mushroom soup  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 6:55 pm : link
In comment 16121296 BLUATHRT said:
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and chopped onion to mine. It add a dimension of flavor and tenderness.

I'm guessing you'd have to leave out some other wet ingredients?
RE: Bill in UT  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 6:56 pm : link
In comment 16121298 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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I usually sauté crimini mushrooms and also add shredded cheddar cheese to my meatloaf. Super good!


Those look like nice additions. When I have leftovers I'll often melt some cheese on it
RE: Mustard  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 6:59 pm : link
In comment 16121323 MattinKY said:
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seems to be the key to a good meatloaf, although I use powder over liquid.

Celery is another great flavor adder.

I also use tomato sauce for moisture and no egg as the grass fed beef I use has plenty of fat to hold it all together.

About 50% of the time I will slow cook it on a double layer of perforated foil in the smoker.

It's really hard to beat a good meatloaf for a rib sticker meal.


I've got a little mustard in mine, but Mrs. in UT won't let me add more than that :) Seeing you're a smoker, I know lots of recipes for meat use mustard as a rub. I haven't smoked a meatloaf yet, but others have mentioned it, and I do it one of these days
Bill  
Daniel in Kentucky : 5/22/2023 7:19 pm : link
I put the cheese throughout it, not on top
FYI
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/22/2023 7:21 pm : link
What wouldn't he do for love?
Hey Bill  
CRinCA : 5/22/2023 7:28 pm : link
I think I may have commented on a prior Food thread that your recipe, except for the bbq sauce, is dead on with what I view as my “old school” recipe.

On occasion when I really want a comfort version, I do a version that my mom made as early as I can remember which was the standard recipe, but stuffed with a whole pound of part- skim mozzarella cut in half and placed end to end, which was wrapped in a bunch of good quality deli ham. Love that stuff.
I cook mine in a pot on a stove top  
eli4life : 5/22/2023 7:45 pm : link
It’s how my grandma and mom made it. Only difference is I can’t get unida biscuits anymore but I found a Spanish one that’s almost as good
RE: Bill  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 8:48 pm : link
In comment 16121373 Daniel in Kentucky said:
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I put the cheese throughout it, not on top
FYI


Yeah, Daniel, thanks. I understood that
RE: ...  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 8:50 pm : link
In comment 16121376 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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What wouldn't he do for love?


He'd do anything, but he wouldn't do THAT
RE: Hey Bill  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 8:55 pm : link
In comment 16121382 CRinCA said:
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I think I may have commented on a prior Food thread that your recipe, except for the bbq sauce, is dead on with what I view as my “old school” recipe.

On occasion when I really want a comfort version, I do a version that my mom made as early as I can remember which was the standard recipe, but stuffed with a whole pound of part- skim mozzarella cut in half and placed end to end, which was wrapped in a bunch of good quality deli ham. Love that stuff.


Never saw that before, Chuck. Lidia Bastianich does a version with ricotta cheese, which I guess would be similar to the mozz, but not with ham. My mom, who I've mentioned was an awful cook, put a can of vegetable soup in her meatloaf. Mrs. in UT named it "surprise meatloaf" because the first time she cut into it, a lima bean and a carrot fell out
RE: I cook mine in a pot on a stove top  
Bill in UT : 5/22/2023 9:01 pm : link
In comment 16121387 eli4life said:
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It’s how my grandma and mom made it. Only difference is I can’t get unida biscuits anymore but I found a Spanish one that’s almost as good

How does that work? It comes out round? Do you cook it with a lid on so that the top will cook quicker?
I looked up Uneeda biscuits, they were discontinued by Kraft. Here's a link to some other alternatives
Link - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I cook mine in a pot on a stove top  
eli4life : 5/22/2023 9:18 pm : link
In comment 16121429 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 16121387 eli4life said:


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It’s how my grandma and mom made it. Only difference is I can’t get unida biscuits anymore but I found a Spanish one that’s almost as good


How does that work? It comes out round? Do you cook it with a lid on so that the top will cook quicker?
I looked up Uneeda biscuits, they were discontinued by Kraft. Here's a link to some other alternatives Link - ( New Window )


Yes with a cover for 2-3 hours some water in the pot tomato sauce on top and it’s more like oblong I usually do 3 pounds.

I used to have it written down but I’ve made it so many times over the years it’s second nature now
My wife found this meatloaf recipe in a gluten free cookbook  
eric2425ny : 5/22/2023 9:28 pm : link
that is unreal. The beef is mixed with blended up carrots, celery, and onion. There are a few other spices added in as well (I can’t find the recipe at the moment). Then you cover the top with a honey mustard style glaze (more of a sweet honey mustard). Once that’s in the baking dish you cover the top with strips of raw bacon (we used Natures Rancher Applewood Smoked from Whole Foods) and bake.

You have to drain it really well due to all of the grease from the bacon, but that bacon flavor cooks nicely into the ground beef.
RE: I thought  
Wildcardgiants : 5/22/2023 9:30 pm : link
In comment 16121207 dlauster said:
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This was about the singer. 😆


I was going to say the same thing...
The best meatloaf I have ever had  
smshmth8690 : 5/23/2023 9:12 am : link
was at K-Paul's in New Orleans. I'm mentioning it here, because I know the restaurant had a lot of fans on this board, with me included. The recipe for it is in his first book as well. For meatloaf the recipe is pretty complicated. I feel like I know how to follow a recipe fairly well, but it never came out as good as when I had it there.
I found the recipe on line, so here it is.
Paul Prudhomme's Cajun Meatloaf - ( New Window )
We tend to use oatmeal over bread crumbs  
GrMtWoods : 5/23/2023 9:14 am : link
Family prefers the texture.
We have found  
VTChuck : 5/23/2023 9:15 am : link
a 50/50 mix of ground beef and lean ground pork makes a superior meatloaf

No loaf pan... cooked as a lump on parchment paper

My son swears by ground turkey in his recipe

My mom's secret ingredient was horseradish sauce in the mix and using finely chopped up bread rather than bread crumbs
It's a cheat, but it works quite well  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2023 9:17 am : link
I use an envelope of Lipton's Beefy Onion soup mix in my meatloaf. Comes out great.
If you are interested in the Prudhomme recipe  
smshmth8690 : 5/23/2023 9:19 am : link
I linked above, it says to serve it with 'Very Hot Sauce For Beef', which is basically a jalapeño-beef gravy. Here's that recipe too. Just an extra little idea, keeping with the brisket/wood thread above, if you have leftover brisket, and chop it up, and reheat it in this sauce, it would make a really good smoked brisket etouffee to serve over rice.
I'd also like to add that I personally don't think this sauce is very hot, but when it was first published back in the 80's it probably was, so of course to make it very hot, throw in some of those ghost, or scorpion chiles that you have around.
Very hot sauce for beef - ( New Window )
Bill thanks  
upnyg : 5/23/2023 11:16 am : link
for putting these up.

Over the past year Ive purchased beef in bulk direct from a local family owned farm. Its all frozen, wrapped, and labled and I take it out as needed.

In the cuts, I struggle with the chuck cuts and the cube steaks. If you ever have easy recipes for those, that would be great.
RE: Bill thanks  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 11:30 am : link
In comment 16121672 upnyg said:
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for putting these up.

Over the past year Ive purchased beef in bulk direct from a local family owned farm. Its all frozen, wrapped, and labled and I take it out as needed.

In the cuts, I struggle with the chuck cuts and the cube steaks. If you ever have easy recipes for those, that would be great.

I'm out of the
house. I'll get back to you later
A friend butcher's dairy cow downers  
GrMtWoods : 5/23/2023 11:41 am : link
We use Chuck cuts for beef bourguigon/stew. Cubes are great in any Dutch oven or crockpot recipe.
His name  
cjac : 5/23/2023 11:44 am : link
was Robert Paulson
RE: Bill thanks  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:31 pm : link
In comment 16121672 upnyg said:
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for putting these up.

Over the past year Ive purchased beef in bulk direct from a local family owned farm. Its all frozen, wrapped, and labled and I take it out as needed.

In the cuts, I struggle with the chuck cuts and the cube steaks. If you ever have easy recipes for those, that would be great.


First of all, 80:20 ground beef is usually chuck, so you could use a lot of it that way. As alluded to, you can make a lot of stews/pot roasts with chuck, as well as braises you can use for tacos. I also use chuck in my chili. You could make poor man's burnt ends with chuck- it's not hard, but is time consuming. I don't use cube steaks, but my first thought is country fried steak.
Here's a chuck recipe which is a little different than a regular stew, but fairly simple. I adapted it from a Milk Street recipe

BILL'S GREEK-STYLE BEEF AND ORZO STEW
Ingredients
1 TABLESPOON EXTRA-VIRGIN OLIVE OIL, PLUS MORE TO SERVE
4 MEDIUM GARLIC CLOVES, SMASHED AND PEELED
1 1/2-2 POUNDS BONELESS BEEF CHUCK ROAST OR BONELESS BEEF SHORT RIBS, TRIMMED AND CUT INTO 3/4-INCH CHUNKS
28 OUNCE CAN DICED FIRE-ROASTED TOMATOES
1/2 TEASPOON GROUND CINNAMON
1 ONION, LARGE DICE
1-2 BELL PEPPERS, WHATEVER COLORS, THICK STRIPS
KOSHER SALT AND GROUND BLACK PEPPER
3/4 CUP ORZO
1/2 CUP CHOPPED FRESH FLAT-LEAF PARSLEY OR FRESH DILL OR FRESH MINT OR A COMBINATION, PLUS MORE TO SERVE
OPTIONAL GARNISH: CRUMBLED FETA CHEESE
Directions
In a large pot, cook the onions and peppers til charred. Reserve Cook the oil and garlic until golden. Stir in the beef, tomatoes with juices, cinnamon, 2 teaspoons salt and ¾ teaspoon pepper. Boil, then lower the heat, cover and simmer, stirring occasionally, until the beef is tender, about 45 minutes. Stir in the orzo and 2 cups water. Add back the onions and peppers. Boil and cook, stirring often, until the orzo is tender. Season with salt and pepper, then stir in the parsley. Serve drizzled with additional oil and sprinkled with parsley.
RE: My wife found this meatloaf recipe in a gluten free cookbook  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16121442 eric2425ny said:
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that is unreal. The beef is mixed with blended up carrots, celery, and onion. There are a few other spices added in as well (I can’t find the recipe at the moment). Then you cover the top with a honey mustard style glaze (more of a sweet honey mustard). Once that’s in the baking dish you cover the top with strips of raw bacon (we used Natures Rancher Applewood Smoked from Whole Foods) and bake.

You have to drain it really well due to all of the grease from the bacon, but that bacon flavor cooks nicely into the ground beef.


That looks like a terrific variation
RE: The best meatloaf I have ever had  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:42 pm : link
In comment 16121545 smshmth8690 said:
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was at K-Paul's in New Orleans. I'm mentioning it here, because I know the restaurant had a lot of fans on this board, with me included. The recipe for it is in his first book as well. For meatloaf the recipe is pretty complicated. I feel like I know how to follow a recipe fairly well, but it never came out as good as when I had it there.
I found the recipe on line, so here it is. Paul Prudhomme's Cajun Meatloaf - ( New Window )


Hey, Drew. I thin I've mentioned, to you at least, that I went to K-Paul's my first time in Nola and had blackened redfish, then came home and bought a cast iron pan. I set off my smoke alarm the first time I made it :)
I've got a copy of Louisiana Cookbook and it's got the recipe in it. Never made it tho. Emeril also has a Cajun meatloaf which I haven't made. I've also got Prudhomme's A Fork in the Road, where he did healthier recipes. Don't know if I've made anything from that :)
RE: We tend to use oatmeal over bread crumbs  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:44 pm : link
In comment 16121548 GrMtWoods said:
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Family prefers the texture.

yeah, I've done oatmeal and rice, but I keep going back to bread/crackers.
RE: We have found  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:47 pm : link
In comment 16121549 VTChuck said:
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a 50/50 mix of ground beef and lean ground pork makes a superior meatloaf

No loaf pan... cooked as a lump on parchment paper

My son swears by ground turkey in his recipe

My mom's secret ingredient was horseradish sauce in the mix and using finely chopped up bread rather than bread crumbs


I've made them on parchment also. I just feel like the loaf pan cooks more uniformly, the shape is easier to cut for sandwiches, and the liquid is not a mess for cleanup. When I smoke one, I'll do it on parchment.
RE: It's a cheat, but it works quite well  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:49 pm : link
In comment 16121550 Greg from LI said:
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I use an envelope of Lipton's Beefy Onion soup mix in my meatloaf. Comes out great.


The soup mix has real good flavor and the onions are dehydrated, like the one's I use in this. And you can make onion dip with the other packet.
RE: His name  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 5:56 pm : link
In comment 16121724 cjac said:
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was Robert Paulson


Michael Lee Aday (born Marvin Lee Aday; September 27, 1947 – January 20, 2022), known professionally as Meat Loaf, was an American rock singer and actor. He played a character named Robert Paulson in Fight Club
RE: RE: Bill thanks  
upnyg : 5/23/2023 9:20 pm : link
In comment 16122102 Bill in UT said:
Quote:
In comment 16121672 upnyg said:


Quote:


for putting these up.

Over the past year Ive purchased beef in bulk direct from a local family owned farm. Its all frozen, wrapped, and labled and I take it out as needed.

In the cuts, I struggle with the chuck cuts and the cube steaks. If you ever have easy recipes for those, that would be great.



First of all, 80:20 ground beef is usually chuck, so you could use a lot of it that way. As alluded to, you can make a lot of stews/pot roasts with chuck, as well as braises you can use for tacos. I also use chuck in my chili. You could make poor man's burnt ends with chuck- it's not hard, but is time consuming. I don't use cube steaks, but my first thought is country fried steak.
Here's a chuck recipe which is a little different than a regular stew, but fairly simple. I adapted it from a Milk Street recipe

BILL'S GREEK-STYLE BEEF AND ORZO STEW
Ingredients
1 TABLESPOON EXTRA-VIRGIN OLIVE OIL, PLUS MORE TO SERVE
4 MEDIUM GARLIC CLOVES, SMASHED AND PEELED
1 1/2-2 POUNDS BONELESS BEEF CHUCK ROAST OR BONELESS BEEF SHORT RIBS, TRIMMED AND CUT INTO 3/4-INCH CHUNKS
28 OUNCE CAN DICED FIRE-ROASTED TOMATOES
1/2 TEASPOON GROUND CINNAMON
1 ONION, LARGE DICE
1-2 BELL PEPPERS, WHATEVER COLORS, THICK STRIPS
KOSHER SALT AND GROUND BLACK PEPPER
3/4 CUP ORZO
1/2 CUP CHOPPED FRESH FLAT-LEAF PARSLEY OR FRESH DILL OR FRESH MINT OR A COMBINATION, PLUS MORE TO SERVE
OPTIONAL GARNISH: CRUMBLED FETA CHEESE
Directions
In a large pot, cook the onions and peppers til charred. Reserve Cook the oil and garlic until golden. Stir in the beef, tomatoes with juices, cinnamon, 2 teaspoons salt and ¾ teaspoon pepper. Boil, then lower the heat, cover and simmer, stirring occasionally, until the beef is tender, about 45 minutes. Stir in the orzo and 2 cups water. Add back the onions and peppers. Boil and cook, stirring often, until the orzo is tender. Season with salt and pepper, then stir in the parsley. Serve drizzled with additional oil and sprinkled with parsley.
Thank you
We got tied up with things today  
Bill in UT : 5/23/2023 10:16 pm : link
so I had to switch to an off the cuff dinner. I had some leftover jambalya from the freezer. I hate microwaving cooked shrimp, but the dish still came out good and hotter than anything I had in Nola. I threw out 80% of the rice to keep the carbs down.
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