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bluesince56 : 5/23/2023 8:06 am
I know all us die hard Rangers fans are still upset by the way our team crapped out in last he playoffs, however there are still an exciting series going on between the Panthers and Hurricanes. Living only a few miles from where they play at least a few of us have some interest in the chase for the Cup. Two observations. It seems being at the top of your division means little. Also. Winning in the playoffs takes a tenuous effort. Something the Rangers forgot this year.
You need a hot goalie  
Chocco : 5/23/2023 8:14 am : link
And Bob is 🔥 right now.
Florida  
Costy16 : 5/23/2023 8:27 am : link
Is the hottest team in the playoffs. They were playing the best hockey of any team coming in. Went on a massive run during the latter portion of the regular season to grab that wild card spot and the momentum has continued rolling. Tkachuk is a game-changer, the Rangers should have made a move for him two years ago.

The Canes under Rod have seem to fizzle out in playoff series where their offense dries up. It happened against the Rangers last year and they've really struggled to score in this series. They've played three close games, but Bob has been all-world for the Panthers.
I think Carolina  
Gman11 : 5/23/2023 8:28 am : link
really misses Svechnikov. Still, some people were thinking that Bobrovsky was done. Then, he's unbeatable in the playoffs.
great hockey history  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/23/2023 8:33 am : link
rich rich history.....

Carolina, Dallas Las Vegas, and the Mecca of NHL history Florida (all the ice rinks in the 1940's to the 1970s')

WOW!

Just speechless......
RE: great hockey history  
Costy16 : 5/23/2023 8:38 am : link
In comment 16121525 I Love Clams Casino said:
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rich rich history.....

Carolina, Dallas Las Vegas, and the Mecca of NHL history Florida (all the ice rinks in the 1940's to the 1970s')

WOW!

Just speechless......


Those teams are playing the best, what are you going to do?
Other than Aho  
Lowell : 5/23/2023 9:29 am : link
the entire hurricane lineup consists of bottom six players. Their snipers are injured.
RE: Other than Aho  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2023 9:51 am : link
In comment 16121556 Lowell said:
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the entire hurricane lineup consists of bottom six players. Their snipers are injured.


this is a little hyperbolic.

the only player of consequence they are missing from the regular season metro winning team is Svechnikov (who I agree is their best player and a big loss). Only other player out is Pacioretty, who played 3 games, is neither a sniper or had any impact on the regular season.

And Necas, Jarvis, Teraivainen, Kotkaniemi, etc. may be bottom 6 on CAR the way they order their lines, but none are really bottom 6 players on most teams. They're all on PP1 or PP2.
RE: I think Carolina  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2023 10:03 am : link
In comment 16121523 Gman11 said:
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really misses Svechnikov. Still, some people were thinking that Bobrovsky was done. Then, he's unbeatable in the playoffs.


A lot of people thought Bobrovsky was done, including the Panthers who started journeyman JAG Alex Lyon the first three games of the playoffs against BOS.

Also, the Bobrovsky history is funny. He didn't start a regular season game in April, it was all Lyon - who was fantastic down the stretch and far more of a reason FLA is even in the playoffs than Bobrovsky.

Bobrovsky has been heroic in the playoffs, but no one saw this coming.

RE: RE: great hockey history  
John In CO : 5/23/2023 10:17 am : link
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rich rich history.....

Carolina, Dallas Las Vegas, and the Mecca of NHL history Florida (all the ice rinks in the 1940's to the 1970s')

WOW!

Just speechless......



Those teams are playing the best, what are you going to do?


I wonder if people felt the same way when the league expanded from the original 6 back in the 60's and some of the new markets ended up with better teams than some of the original 6? Islanders/Rangers would be an example. It is what it is....the game is growing. And that should be a good thing.
RE: You need a hot goalie  
BC Eagles94 : 5/23/2023 10:33 am : link
In comment 16121512 Chocco said:
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And Bob is 🔥 right now.


You need more than that. Shesty was hot in the playoffs. But the rest of them team forgot how to consistently play to win and score goals in the playoffs.
RE: RE: Other than Aho  
ColHowPepper : 5/23/2023 10:52 am : link
In comment 16121577 pjcas18 said:
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And Necas, Jarvis, Teraivainen, Kotkaniemi, etc. may be bottom 6 on CAR the way they order their lines, but none are really bottom 6 players on most teams. They're all on PP1 or PP2.

I was surprised last night that Brind'Amour played Kotkaniemi so little. He's been active and conscientious both ways, near misses on Bob, an offensive instigator, active around the net, which is what you needed to get past Bob, rebounds, scuffles. He had very few shifts in 3rd.
"Also. Winning in the playoffs takes a tenuous effort. Something the  
ColHowPepper : 5/23/2023 10:56 am : link
Ramgers forgot this year." blue, maybe you mean tenacious vs tenuous, because the Rangers' cup runneth over with tenuous. Their performance, esp. top six, was an embarrassment of passive: "we will not skate and check hard enough to win. It's not what we do." To fans, it was offensive to watch.
RE: RE: RE: Other than Aho  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2023 10:58 am : link
In comment 16121631 ColHowPepper said:
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And Necas, Jarvis, Teraivainen, Kotkaniemi, etc. may be bottom 6 on CAR the way they order their lines, but none are really bottom 6 players on most teams. They're all on PP1 or PP2.


I was surprised last night that Brind'Amour played Kotkaniemi so little. He's been active and conscientious both ways, near misses on Bob, an offensive instigator, active around the net, which is what you needed to get past Bob, rebounds, scuffles. He had very few shifts in 3rd.


Can't win a face off. Head coaches want centers on the ice in one goal games in the 3rd period when your playoff life is on the line who can win face offs.

Staal and Stastny down the stretch were the only two I noticed taking face offs. and they dominated (especially with Barkov out).

Only thing I can think of.
RE: great hockey history  
Jints in Carolina : 5/23/2023 11:03 am : link
In comment 16121525 I Love Clams Casino said:
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rich rich history.....

Carolina, Dallas Las Vegas, and the Mecca of NHL history Florida (all the ice rinks in the 1940's to the 1970s')

WOW!

Just speechless......


oh my word! Cancel hockey!

What a weird take.
RE: great hockey history  
JayBinQueens : 5/23/2023 11:09 am : link
In comment 16121525 I Love Clams Casino said:
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rich rich history.....

Carolina, Dallas Las Vegas, and the Mecca of NHL history Florida (all the ice rinks in the 1940's to the 1970s')

WOW!

Just speechless......


So much history and wisdom they couldn't field a team better than the new kids on the block
RE: RE: RE: RE: Other than Aho  
ColHowPepper : 5/23/2023 11:11 am : link
In comment 16121641 pjcas18 said:
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Can't win a face off. Head coaches want centers on the ice in one goal games in the 3rd period when your playoff life is on the line who can win face offs....Only thing I can think of.
Makes sense, do recall him fanning a couple of times, but jeez, get a wing with him who can. Canes' had a lot of zone time late, but not enough high danger, though I think one of their 'hits the post' efforts came in 3rd.

apropos nothing at all, Kenny Albert is such a poor pbp guy, awful, but the Eastern Conf Intermission and PG group are far superior to the Western Conf' buffoons. Liam says little, he facilitates, which is good; Henrik is enjoying himself, and Gretsky seems more comfortable, and Anson I always find intelligent.
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pjcas18 : 5/23/2023 11:17 am : link
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Can't win a face off. Head coaches want centers on the ice in one goal games in the 3rd period when your playoff life is on the line who can win face offs....Only thing I can think of.

Makes sense, do recall him fanning a couple of times, but jeez, get a wing with him who can. Canes' had a lot of zone time late, but not enough high danger, though I think one of their 'hits the post' efforts came in 3rd.

apropos nothing at all, Kenny Albert is such a poor pbp guy, awful, but the Eastern Conf Intermission and PG group are far superior to the Western Conf' buffoons. Liam says little, he facilitates, which is good; Henrik is enjoying himself, and Gretsky seems more comfortable, and Anson I always find intelligent.


this topic (face offs) is why I could see the Rangers trading Chytil. He was/is brutal on face offs. Get a 2C, move Trocheck to 3C (with a couple more additions/changes).

I find Gretzky to be boring. I want him to be great, but I don't think he is. I do like his stories, but he isn't a good story teller. I probably like Anson the best of that group of regulars. Hank is really good too, but he's a goalie (no offense) but they just usually ask him the goalie questions and I think he's smarter than that.
RE: RE: great hockey history  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/23/2023 11:28 am : link
In comment 16121650 Jints in Carolina said:
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rich rich history.....

Carolina, Dallas Las Vegas, and the Mecca of NHL history Florida (all the ice rinks in the 1940's to the 1970s')

WOW!

Just speechless......



oh my word! Cancel hockey!

What a weird take.


ah, whatever...I just thought it was funny....I said nothing of the sort....chill
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bluesince56 : 5/23/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16121638 ColHowPepper said:
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Ramgers forgot this year." blue, maybe you mean tenacious vs tenuous, because the Rangers' cup runneth over with tenuous. Their performance, esp. top six, was an embarrassment of passive: "we will not skate and check hard enough to win. It's not what we do." To fans, it was offensive to watch.


You are right. Thanks for fixing that error. Their top six were embarrassing. Notice the Panthers. Chip and chase. Something the top six won’t do
The NHL playoffs never disappoint me  
arniefez : 5/23/2023 1:18 pm : link
the level of intensity is so high and the games are so competitive that it doesn't matter to me that of the teams left I have no emotional ties good or bad.

I had forgotten until I heard this morning on a podcast that Florida would not have made the playoffs if Pittsburgh didn't lose their last home game to the horrible Blackhawks. Now Florida looks unbeatable.
Summer Starts Soon  
Percy : 5/23/2023 2:44 pm : link
Way too late for ice hockey. NHL has ruined itself with too many teams and games with what for home fans are strangers. Wish there was a fix for these things. (Original Six fan here.)
Florida having quite a run...  
BillKo : 5/23/2023 3:45 pm : link
..and to think Brad Marchand had the game and series on his stick with one second left on a clean breakaway in Game 5, a game FL was terribly outplayed in.

Crazy how sports goes sometimes!!

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Other than Aho  
Costy16 : 5/23/2023 3:50 pm : link
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Can't win a face off. Head coaches want centers on the ice in one goal games in the 3rd period when your playoff life is on the line who can win face offs....Only thing I can think of.

Makes sense, do recall him fanning a couple of times, but jeez, get a wing with him who can. Canes' had a lot of zone time late, but not enough high danger, though I think one of their 'hits the post' efforts came in 3rd.

apropos nothing at all, Kenny Albert is such a poor pbp guy, awful, but the Eastern Conf Intermission and PG group are far superior to the Western Conf' buffoons. Liam says little, he facilitates, which is good; Henrik is enjoying himself, and Gretsky seems more comfortable, and Anson I always find intelligent.


I happen to like Kenny Albert, and think he does a great job. The guy I really like is John Forslund. The Hurricanes owner did him wrong, I used to watch random Hurricanes games during the season just to listen to him do the games.
RE: Summer Starts Soon  
pjcas18 : 5/23/2023 3:59 pm : link
In comment 16121948 Percy said:
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Way too late for ice hockey. NHL has ruined itself with too many teams and games with what for home fans are strangers. Wish there was a fix for these things. (Original Six fan here.)


How do you think the NHL has ruined itself?

Islanders fan here  
thefan : 5/24/2023 9:12 am : link
and despite our exit, the playoffs have been great to watch. Semi-finals have been kinda meh as two sweeps seems likely, but I ma hopefully the vegas/florida is a good series. What a snoozer last night in Dallas, you could hear a pin drop. Between that and the yankees game being blacked out on the mlb app, I had to find other stuff to do last night.
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Mike from Ohio : 5/24/2023 11:00 am : link
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Can't win a face off. Head coaches want centers on the ice in one goal games in the 3rd period when your playoff life is on the line who can win face offs....Only thing I can think of.

Makes sense, do recall him fanning a couple of times, but jeez, get a wing with him who can. Canes' had a lot of zone time late, but not enough high danger, though I think one of their 'hits the post' efforts came in 3rd.

apropos nothing at all, Kenny Albert is such a poor pbp guy, awful, but the Eastern Conf Intermission and PG group are far superior to the Western Conf' buffoons. Liam says little, he facilitates, which is good; Henrik is enjoying himself, and Gretsky seems more comfortable, and Anson I always find intelligent.



I happen to like Kenny Albert, and think he does a great job. The guy I really like is John Forslund. The Hurricanes owner did him wrong, I used to watch random Hurricanes games during the season just to listen to him do the games.


I am in NC and watch some Canes games now and then. Forslund is excellent and I always enjoyed listening to him call the games. However, Tripp Tracey makes most of their broadcasts unlistenable. Between his slurred words, making the ssame point 5 times in 10 minutes, and random exclamations it's like 'bring your kid to work day.'
Carolina  
Joe Beckwith : 5/24/2023 7:38 pm : link
in games 1&2 was following the Bruins game plan in games 4-7: get away from what you do AND then don’t do it well.
Game 3 SB was as wide and high as the net.
3-2, 2-1, 1-0: how does FLA win G4? 0-0 but Carolina runs out of healthy players for period 12 and defaults?
You’re seeing tonight  
Mike from Ohio : 5/24/2023 9:30 pm : link
Why Kotkaniemi was on the bench so much last game. He is not a smart player.
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Costy16 : 5/25/2023 8:54 am : link
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Can't win a face off. Head coaches want centers on the ice in one goal games in the 3rd period when your playoff life is on the line who can win face offs....Only thing I can think of.

Makes sense, do recall him fanning a couple of times, but jeez, get a wing with him who can. Canes' had a lot of zone time late, but not enough high danger, though I think one of their 'hits the post' efforts came in 3rd.

apropos nothing at all, Kenny Albert is such a poor pbp guy, awful, but the Eastern Conf Intermission and PG group are far superior to the Western Conf' buffoons. Liam says little, he facilitates, which is good; Henrik is enjoying himself, and Gretsky seems more comfortable, and Anson I always find intelligent.



I happen to like Kenny Albert, and think he does a great job. The guy I really like is John Forslund. The Hurricanes owner did him wrong, I used to watch random Hurricanes games during the season just to listen to him do the games.



I am in NC and watch some Canes games now and then. Forslund is excellent and I always enjoyed listening to him call the games. However, Tripp Tracey makes most of their broadcasts unlistenable. Between his slurred words, making the ssame point 5 times in 10 minutes, and random exclamations it's like 'bring your kid to work day.'


Maniscalco is not a good PBP guy. Tracey is a homer and always has been. I can't believe they let Forslund go, he's happy in Seattle, but his family still lives in the Raleigh area I believe.
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