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NGT: Austin Ekeler gets slight pay bump to about 8 million

islander1 : 5/23/2023 10:30 am
Really interesting, and another nail in the coffin of Saquon Barkley's 'hoped' big payday.

Ekeler is settling for 8 million this year. Similar numbers in terms of yards from scrimmage, and a better track record of health.


Ekeler gets 1.75 million in makeable incentives added for this year - ( New Window )
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Don’t care all that much about the Stats,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 10:42 am : link
but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.

And SB’s blocking took a nice leap  
Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 10:42 am : link
last year
Saquon will get his big payday signing the franchise tag  
Rick in Dallas : 5/23/2023 10:44 am : link
He and his agent really screwed up.He is as much to blame as his agent.He has the final say.
Sign up already  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/23/2023 10:55 am : link
greedy Saquon.
RE: Don’t care all that much about the Stats,  
leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 11:09 am : link
In comment 16121615 Big Blue '56 said:
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.


Can you elaborate on why you don’t think Ekeler is a little?
RE: Don’t care all that much about the Stats,  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/23/2023 11:12 am : link
In comment 16121615 Big Blue '56 said:
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.


Respectfully disagree. Eckeler might not get the volume of carries that Barkley gets, but his career yards per carry are better than Barkley's and he had over 100 receptions last year (and three season over 90 receptions). He had only 13 less total yards than Barkley, with 90 less carries.

Is Barkley the better runner? Arguably yes. Is Eckeler the better all around RB? Clearly yes, IMO.
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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 11:17 am : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Respectfully disagree. Eckeler might not get the volume of carries that Barkley gets, but his career yards per carry are better than Barkley's and he had over 100 receptions last year (and three season over 90 receptions). He had only 13 less total yards than Barkley, with 90 less carries.

Is Barkley the better runner? Arguably yes. Is Eckeler the better all around RB? Clearly yes, IMO.


^ 100% agreed.
RE: Don’t care all that much about the Stats,  
islander1 : 5/23/2023 11:25 am : link
In comment 16121615 Big Blue '56 said:
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.


That's the irrational fan in you. I'd rather have Ekeler, more reliable.
Stats are just a record of what a player has actually done...  
Jacobs #27 : 5/23/2023 11:36 am : link
so when you say you don't care about stats what you are really saying is that you don't care about how a player produces on the field.

Can status be misleading? Sure. But saying they don't matter is just kinda silly.
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k2tampa : 5/23/2023 11:58 am : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Respectfully disagree. Eckeler might not get the volume of carries that Barkley gets, but his career yards per carry are better than Barkley's and he had over 100 receptions last year (and three season over 90 receptions). He had only 13 less total yards than Barkley, with 90 less carries.

Is Barkley the better runner? Arguably yes. Is Eckeler the better all around RB? Clearly yes, IMO.



^ 100% agreed.


He also wasn't a free agent. This was a redo of the last year of his contract. Apples and oranges.
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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 12:00 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Respectfully disagree. Eckeler might not get the volume of carries that Barkley gets, but his career yards per carry are better than Barkley's and he had over 100 receptions last year (and three season over 90 receptions). He had only 13 less total yards than Barkley, with 90 less carries.

Is Barkley the better runner? Arguably yes. Is Eckeler the better all around RB? Clearly yes, IMO.



^ 100% agreed.



He also wasn't a free agent. This was a redo of the last year of his contract. Apples and oranges.


True but he was also actively trying to get traded for a better pay day and couldn’t find any takers.
 
christian : 5/23/2023 12:02 pm : link
A lot of fans makes the case Barkley is more than a RB, I find that a little dubious, but if that's the logic Ekeler is the better weapon.

He averages about a yard more per touch, more TDs per game, and just a fraction fewer 1Ds per game.

On a value basis, he's worth more than Barkley.
RE: Don’t care all that much about the Stats,  
JerseyCityJoe : 5/23/2023 12:09 pm : link
In comment 16121615 Big Blue '56 said:
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.

If you play FF he sure is.
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Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:12 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




That's the irrational fan in you. I'd rather have Ekeler, more reliable.


You mean when I said Jones would begin to thrive under Daboll when most felt he was pestrian at best, that kind of irrational fan?
pestrian=pedestrian  
Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:13 pm : link
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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 12:15 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




That's the irrational fan in you. I'd rather have Ekeler, more reliable.



You mean when I said Jones would begin to thrive under Daboll when most felt he was pestrian at best, that kind of irrational fan?


1. I don’t think I’d describe Jones’s production last year as thriving.

2. Even if you do I don’t see how the has anything to do with you being wrong about Ekeler.
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Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:19 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




That's the irrational fan in you. I'd rather have Ekeler, more reliable.



You mean when I said Jones would begin to thrive under Daboll when most felt he was pestrian at best, that kind of irrational fan?



1. I don’t think I’d describe Jones’s production last year as thriving.

2. Even if you do I don’t see how the has anything to do with you being wrong about Ekeler.


1-I said BEGIN to thrive under Daboll, not already thriving

2-One, I’m not WRONG about Ekeler, it’s my opinion. Did Ekeler even come close to single-handedly winning 3-4 games last year as SB did with arguably much less talent around him?

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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 12:21 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




That's the irrational fan in you. I'd rather have Ekeler, more reliable.



You mean when I said Jones would begin to thrive under Daboll when most felt he was pestrian at best, that kind of irrational fan?



1. I don’t think I’d describe Jones’s production last year as thriving.

2. Even if you do I don’t see how the has anything to do with you being wrong about Ekeler.



1-I said BEGIN to thrive under Daboll, not already thriving

2-One, I’m not WRONG about Ekeler, it’s my opinion. Did Ekeler even come close to single-handedly winning 3-4 games last year as SB did with arguably much less talent around him?


Yes. The Charger’s entire WR corps was banged up last year.
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Mayo2JZ : 5/23/2023 12:22 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Can you elaborate on why you don’t think Ekeler is a little?


I would like to know too because I think just the opposite of your premise. Eckler is explosive
RE: Don’t care all that much about the Stats,  
Thegratefulhead : 5/23/2023 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16121615 Big Blue '56 said:
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.
You might not be watching enough of other teams. SB is more explosive but really might not be the better professional RB, goes strongly in Eckler's favor when considering availability.
I disagree with many here  
UConn4523 : 5/23/2023 12:25 pm : link
I like Ekeler and he’s productive but the explosion and big play ability isn’t close to Barkleys. He also isn’t the pass catcher that Kamara is - he sure catches a lot of passes but they aren’t for monster plays.
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Thegratefulhead : 5/23/2023 12:25 pm : link
In comment 16121751 christian said:
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A lot of fans makes the case Barkley is more than a RB, I find that a little dubious, but if that's the logic Ekeler is the better weapon.

He averages about a yard more per touch, more TDs per game, and just a fraction fewer 1Ds per game.

On a value basis, he's worth more than Barkley.
Fair
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Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:28 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Can you elaborate on why you don’t think Ekeler is a little?



I would like to know too because I think just the opposite of your premise. Eckler is explosive


There’s nothing to know. My opinion is that SB is one of the best all-around backs in the league and he proved that with less talent around him than most anyone else. Might he have had more impressive FF stats than he did if his shoulder didn’t hamper him? Probably, but that’s just spec on my part
RE: I disagree with many here  
leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16121786 UConn4523 said:
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I like Ekeler and he’s productive but the explosion and big play ability isn’t close to Barkleys. He also isn’t the pass catcher that Kamara is - he sure catches a lot of passes but they aren’t for monster plays.


Not monster plays but very consistent. I don’t want to bring stats into the debate but he’s averaging more yards per catch than Barkley with 50 more receptions. And then there are the TD totals.
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islander1 : 5/23/2023 12:32 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Respectfully disagree. Eckeler might not get the volume of carries that Barkley gets, but his career yards per carry are better than Barkley's and he had over 100 receptions last year (and three season over 90 receptions). He had only 13 less total yards than Barkley, with 90 less carries.

Is Barkley the better runner? Arguably yes. Is Eckeler the better all around RB? Clearly yes, IMO.



^ 100% agreed.



He also wasn't a free agent. This was a redo of the last year of his contract. Apples and oranges.



True but he was also actively trying to get traded for a better pay day and couldn’t find any takers.


exactly this.

If Barkley thinks he's getting over 10 million anywhere, he and his agent continue to be delusional.
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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 12:32 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Can you elaborate on why you don’t think Ekeler is a little?



I would like to know too because I think just the opposite of your premise. Eckler is explosive



There’s nothing to know. My opinion is that SB is one of the best all-around backs in the league and he proved that with less talent around him than most anyone else. Might he have had more impressive FF stats than he did if his shoulder didn’t hamper him? Probably, but that’s just spec on my part


But how did he prove it?
Regardless of my opinion,  
Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:33 pm : link
AE is a damn good football player. I’ll just have to agree with UConn here and agree to disagree with the apparent majority on this thread
RE: I disagree with many here  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/23/2023 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16121786 UConn4523 said:
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I like Ekeler and he’s productive but the explosion and big play ability isn’t close to Barkleys. He also isn’t the pass catcher that Kamara is - he sure catches a lot of passes but they aren’t for monster plays.


I don't know, Kamara was meh last year (and the previous year). He's not the same player he was a few years ago. Ekeler had 5 receiving TDs in 2022, 8 in 2021. Admittedly I don't watch a bunch of Chargers games, but 18 total TDs in 2022 and 20 total TDs in 2021 is hard to argue with, explosive or not.
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Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:35 pm : link
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but SB is one of the best, if not the best, all-around back in the league, Ekeler isn’t.




Can you elaborate on why you don’t think Ekeler is a little?



I would like to know too because I think just the opposite of your premise. Eckler is explosive



There’s nothing to know. My opinion is that SB is one of the best all-around backs in the league and he proved that with less talent around him than most anyone else. Might he have had more impressive FF stats than he did if his shoulder didn’t hamper him? Probably, but that’s just spec on my part



But how did he prove it?


How did he prove it? How did he prove it? For starters, he won 3-4 games last year virtually by himself. What RB came close to that type of performance? Prove it? What in the world..
And btw? How does a solid RB  
Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:40 pm : link
only get 8 million a year? I know the RB position has taken a hit financial-wise, but 8 mill for a supposed elite player?
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UConn4523 : 5/23/2023 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16121796 leatherneck570 said:
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I like Ekeler and he’s productive but the explosion and big play ability isn’t close to Barkleys. He also isn’t the pass catcher that Kamara is - he sure catches a lot of passes but they aren’t for monster plays.



Not monster plays but very consistent. I don’t want to bring stats into the debate but he’s averaging more yards per catch than Barkley with 50 more receptions. And then there are the TD totals.


Stats require context. Barkley and Ekeler don’t play in the same offense so simply looking at yards per catch isn’t an accurate picture. Barkley is fully capable of catching 80 passes for 7+ yards per but that isn’t our offense and won’t be our offense under Daboll and Kafka.
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UConn4523 : 5/23/2023 12:48 pm : link
In comment 16121807 Big Blue '56 said:
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only get 8 million a year? I know the RB position has taken a hit financial-wise, but 8 mill for a supposed elite player?


He isn’t a UFA. He would make over $10m per season if he were.
If only  
JonC : 5/23/2023 12:49 pm : link
you could put Ekeler's instincts into SB's noggin.
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Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 12:51 pm : link
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only get 8 million a year? I know the RB position has taken a hit financial-wise, but 8 mill for a supposed elite player?



He isn’t a UFA. He would make over $10m per season if he were.


That I know. Still don’t understand why he would sign for that..Sounds kinda low
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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 1:03 pm : link
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only get 8 million a year? I know the RB position has taken a hit financial-wise, but 8 mill for a supposed elite player?



He isn’t a UFA. He would make over $10m per season if he were.



That I know. Still don’t understand why he would sign for that..Sounds kinda low


Because it wasn’t a new contract. They revised the last year of his deal to make incentives easily achievable to make nice after an offseason of bad blood.
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Big Blue '56 : 5/23/2023 1:12 pm : link
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He isn’t a UFA. He would make over $10m per season if he were.



That I know. Still don’t understand why he would sign for that..Sounds kinda low



Because it wasn’t a new contract. They revised the last year of his deal to make incentives easily achievable to make nice after an offseason of bad blood.


Ok, thanks
I prefer to focus on production  
johnnyb : 5/23/2023 1:36 pm : link
and not potential. Eckler has clearly been a more productive and consistent RB over the last few years. And he received $8 Million. SB and/ or his reps misread the market. Sometimes greed is good, other times not so much.
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UConn4523 : 5/23/2023 1:39 pm : link
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I like Ekeler and he’s productive but the explosion and big play ability isn’t close to Barkleys. He also isn’t the pass catcher that Kamara is - he sure catches a lot of passes but they aren’t for monster plays.



I don't know, Kamara was meh last year (and the previous year). He's not the same player he was a few years ago. Ekeler had 5 receiving TDs in 2022, 8 in 2021. Admittedly I don't watch a bunch of Chargers games, but 18 total TDs in 2022 and 20 total TDs in 2021 is hard to argue with, explosive or not.


Not 2022 Kamara. It was a general statement that Kamara’s peak was an explosive pass catcher, not a compiler like I’d classify Ekeler as.

TDs are great, when you have more opportunities, you’ll have more. Do you think Ekeler scores 18 TDs on the giants in 2021 or 2022? I don’t.
RE: I prefer to focus on production  
UConn4523 : 5/23/2023 1:45 pm : link
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and not potential. Eckler has clearly been a more productive and consistent RB over the last few years. And he received $8 Million. SB and/ or his reps misread the market. Sometimes greed is good, other times not so much.


Barkley has locked in over $2m more than Ekeler on the tag. We have no idea what he left on the table. He banked on being a UFA - that isn’t greed it’s fairly normal risk/reward play that he missed by about an hour. But the story isn’t written yet, we don’t know how this ends up. If he stays relatively healthy, he wins. If he gets a big injury, he loses. Gotta respect that.
I have Ekeler in a keeper league  
djm : 5/23/2023 1:52 pm : link
this is good news for me
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leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 1:54 pm : link
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this is good news for me


He should be going balls out this year in hopes of a big pay. Let’s hope he stays healthy. Though, I’d imagine he’s going to take a hit with targets if the WRs stay healthy this year. J/k, they’ll all be hurt again.
I love Ekeler  
djm : 5/23/2023 1:54 pm : link
I have literally watched just about every game or nearly every game of his career. He's one of the most underrated players in the game. And with that said, if you think Ekeler is "clearly the better all around back" over Barkley you are delusional. IF you think the Giants would be a better team by trading #26 for #30 you're delusional.

Both players can be terrific. Don't need to disparage one to pump up the other.
RE: I love Ekeler  
leatherneck570 : 5/23/2023 2:00 pm : link
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I have literally watched just about every game or nearly every game of his career. He's one of the most underrated players in the game. And with that said, if you think Ekeler is "clearly the better all around back" over Barkley you are delusional. IF you think the Giants would be a better team by trading #26 for #30 you're delusional.

Both players can be terrific. Don't need to disparage one to pump up the other.


I don’t think anyone was disparaging either player, just arguing that Ekeler, along with SB, is one of the best all around backs in the league.
RE: I love Ekeler  
ThomasG : 5/23/2023 2:05 pm : link
In comment 16121896 djm said:
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I have literally watched just about every game or nearly every game of his career. He's one of the most underrated players in the game. And with that said, if you think Ekeler is "clearly the better all around back" over Barkley you are delusional. IF you think the Giants would be a better team by trading #26 for #30 you're delusional.

Both players can be terrific. Don't need to disparage one to pump up the other.


Suggesting Ekeler might be the better all-around back makes you delusional? Or is it just the "clearly" distinguishment that does that?
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sb from NYT Forum : 5/23/2023 2:25 pm : link
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I don't know, Kamara was meh last year (and the previous year). He's not the same player he was a few years ago. Ekeler had 5 receiving TDs in 2022, 8 in 2021. Admittedly I don't watch a bunch of Chargers games, but 18 total TDs in 2022 and 20 total TDs in 2021 is hard to argue with, explosive or not.



Not 2022 Kamara. It was a general statement that Kamara’s peak was an explosive pass catcher, not a compiler like I’d classify Ekeler as.

TDs are great, when you have more opportunities, you’ll have more. Do you think Ekeler scores 18 TDs on the giants in 2021 or 2022? I don’t.


I don't know, that's a good question. I definitely thought Barkley would have been more involved in the passing game considering how lousy the Giants' WRs were and the only decent TE being a rookie. I still am not sure why Barkely only had 57 receptions last year.

But I disagree that Ekeler is a compiler. He had 36 1st downs through the air last year, which is pretty damn good IMO for a RB, regardless of how many receptions he had.

If Ekeler was a compiler last year, was Barkley in 2018? Their production through the air was similar (Ekeler actually a little better in 1st downs and TDs). But I would not say that Barkley was a compiler.
RE: RE: I love Ekeler  
djm : 5/23/2023 2:46 pm : link
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I have literally watched just about every game or nearly every game of his career. He's one of the most underrated players in the game. And with that said, if you think Ekeler is "clearly the better all around back" over Barkley you are delusional. IF you think the Giants would be a better team by trading #26 for #30 you're delusional.

Both players can be terrific. Don't need to disparage one to pump up the other.



Suggesting Ekeler might be the better all-around back makes you delusional? Or is it just the "clearly" distinguishment that does that?



It was from an earlier post that said " Is Eckeler the better all around RB? Clearly yes, IMO."

Clearly? no.

Ekeler has played in a better offense  
djm : 5/23/2023 2:50 pm : link
with better WRs and better blocking up until last season. Funny how the RBs ended up around the same place once the decks were even.

All things equal, Barkley is better. Things haven't been equal until 2022 and even that may be a stretch.
Ekeler maximizes every touch  
JonC : 5/23/2023 2:56 pm : link
Being a more efficient runner, eg making the right reads on blocks, picking the right hole, breaking tackles, being decisive, catching passes, etc are all things SB could improve on. I see SB leaving too many yards and plays on the field, and you can see he knows it when he is demonstrative with himself.

SB is a still a young dude, and is getting better with reps. Stay healthy, keep working hard, let's see where he goes.
2022 was equal I can't call that a stretch  
djm : 5/23/2023 2:57 pm : link
Barkley was helped by DJ's mobility.

And the numbers for each RB are pretty close. BArkley has Ekeler beat on the ground while Ekeler has BArk beat in the air. Ek got the TDs as well.

Great backs. I'd still take Barkley even with the shredded knee from 2020. Ekeler is amazing in the redzone though.
RE: Ekeler has played in a better offense  
christian : 5/23/2023 2:58 pm : link
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with better WRs and better blocking up until last season. Funny how the RBs ended up around the same place once the decks were even.

All things equal, Barkley is better. Things haven't been equal until 2022 and even that may be a stretch.


What is better:

352 touches, 1650 yards, 72 1Ds, 10 TDs
312 touches, 1673 yards, 82 1Ds, 18 TDs

The only measure they were "around the same place" is yards.
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