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NGT: Saleh shoving his chips into the middle of the table

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2023 11:09 am
Ryan Dunleavy @rydunleavy

Robert Saleh said ‘realistically 6-8 teams have a chance’ to win Super Bowl every year and he thinks #Jets are one.

Interesting. Don’t recall ever hearing a coach say that. Not at this point in calendar.

But Aaron Rodgers said the same recently. Saleh adopting QB’s message?
Such a stupid move  
UberAlias : 5/23/2023 11:16 am : link
A million things could go wrong. And there's the fact that Rodger's play last year was good, but it wasn't at an all time great level. The Jets had better hope it was disinterest in being in GB, but in my experience, as soon as talk of retirement comes out, it usually isn't long.
If the Jets fail this year, Saleh is gone  
Anakim : 5/23/2023 11:16 am : link
No doubt about it
Keep your receipts  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/23/2023 11:18 am : link
Saleh.
Jets are such a successful program year in, year out  
George from PA : 5/23/2023 11:18 am : link
Playoff wins, Championship......is it really out on a limb?


Nahhhh


Does anyone think Saleh will be around  
Jim in Forest Hills : 5/23/2023 11:20 am : link
if the Jets miss the playoffs? Signing Rodgers is win or go home for Saleh and the GM.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/23/2023 11:20 am : link
They should install a Super Bowl clock.
The guy hasn't been within 2 games  
UberAlias : 5/23/2023 11:20 am : link
of a winning season and is talking superbowl before training camp. Good lord.
He's taking receipts again ?  
averagejoe : 5/23/2023 11:21 am : link
His team lost it's last six games. The Jets were dominated by the Jags at home last year. His all world defense could not stop a run up the middle.


My money is on Saleh and Genius Joe being gone next year .
Most overrate head coach in football - what exactly has he done  
PatersonPlank : 5/23/2023 11:24 am : link
The Jets will be the Jets, they will go 7-10 and implode. Saleh will say the season was a great success
RE: He's taking receipts again ?  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/23/2023 11:26 am : link
In comment 16121690 averagejoe said:
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His team lost it's last six games. The Jets were dominated by the Jags at home last year. His all world defense could not stop a run up the middle.


My money is on Saleh and Genius Joe being gone next year .



It was a Joe Walton-like implosion, a Jets tradition.
doesn't quite compare to Jim Fassel  
Giantsfan79 : 5/23/2023 11:32 am : link
big difference between going "all in" pre-flop, and going all in on the turn (when Fassel did it), when you are clearly behind and much less likely to win.
meh  
Matt in SGS : 5/23/2023 11:45 am : link
If the Jets don't make the playoffs, he's fired.

One of things that was amusing about Fassel's "pushing the chips" speech about the playoffs was that he was going to be fired if he missed them. The Giants started 7-2 and had 2 bad losses. They were also playing an awful Cardinals team with Dave Brown at QB so he knew that he had a really good chance to win.

But Fassel usually used these tactics to get the players to rally around it. Eventually it blew up in his face in 2003 when he had players sign the shovel to indicate they were all working together to dig out of the hole they got in. They lost their last 8 and he quit before he was fired, but still coached that last game against Carolina.

Anyway, Saleh might as well say that stuff, because I think if the Jets don't win at least 1 playoff game to finish among the final 8 teams, he's gone.
Team that hasn't made the playoffs in 13 years has thoughts  
Greg from LI : 5/23/2023 11:46 am : link
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The last coach I remember saying this was....  
Ben in Tampa : 5/23/2023 11:49 am : link
Rex Ryan of the New York Jets!

I think Woody has a type.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2023 11:58 am : link
Ryan Dunleavy
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Aaron Rodgers not practicing with other QBs as he watched from sidelines. Hazards of OTAs?
The last two times the Giants won the Super Bowl  
Rico : 5/23/2023 12:12 pm : link
we were not one of the 6 to 8 teams with "a chance".
RE: If the Jets fail this year, Saleh is gone  
Sean : 5/23/2023 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16121674 Anakim said:
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No doubt about it

This. He’s got no security.
If the Jets get off to a slow start it will get very interesting  
PatersonPlank : 5/23/2023 12:17 pm : link
The media will start pounding on Saleh and Rodgers, and the pressure will be immense because they have set big expectations. I can't wait
Mickey Mouse Franchise Forever.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/23/2023 12:18 pm : link
Doesn't matter who the QB is, who the coach is, they will forever be a Mickey Mouse franchise.
If he’l doesn’t make and win Atleast 1  
UConn4523 : 5/23/2023 12:18 pm : link
playoff game he’s fired so this doesn’t really matter. It’s fun to make fun of but ultimately isn’t a negative IMO.
RE: .....  
ColHowPepper : 5/23/2023 12:31 pm : link
In comment 16121686 BrettNYG10 said:
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They should install a Super Bowl clock.

Ha! Da winnah by acclamation! Classic
Tom Coughlin had an expression that applies here  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/23/2023 12:35 pm : link
Talk is cheap. Play the Game!
Saleh is on the hot seat regardless  
DieHard : 5/23/2023 12:40 pm : link
But why paint an even bigger target on your back when you don't need to?
RE: If the Jets get off to a slow start it will get very interesting  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/23/2023 12:45 pm : link
In comment 16121770 PatersonPlank said:
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The media will start pounding on Saleh and Rodgers, and the pressure will be immense because they have set big expectations. I can't wait


Would be hilarious if (when?) Rodgers career ends hilariously with the Jets.
The comment isn't a big deal  
JohnF : 5/23/2023 12:52 pm : link
Every coach should be talking about winning the Super Bowl. Hell, if the coach says the team stinks, the players usually pick that up, and use it for excuses.

For example, Tampa Bay Bucs Coach John McKay who was asked "what he thought of his team's execution", to which he replied "I'm in favor of it".
Saleh just put the Sword of Damocles over his own head.  
Tom in NY : 5/23/2023 1:11 pm : link
Sometimes these coaches can really misunderstand their role in their own demise. IF things go wrong for the Jets, this quote is going to hang over him and his team like a bad dream.
What’s he supposed to say? The Jets have essentially a two year window  
mikeinbloomfield : 5/23/2023 1:16 pm : link
if that, and everyone knows it. Trading for a 39 year old hall of fame QB tends to show your hand.

They’ve got a shot at the playoffs, certainly and Jets fans are going to be the happiest people in September. Good for them, they haven’t had shit to root for in years. I don’t know why we care.
who fucking cares  
djm : 5/23/2023 1:21 pm : link
if the Jets don't win Saleh is fucking toast here anyway. HE could recite the Gettysburg address during every PC ---if the Jets go 12-5 he's fine. If they go 7-10 he's done.

None of this shit matters. Fans lap this shit up as if some stupid lip service in May makes any difference at all.

Reminder that Jim Fassel was everyone's favorite in the media. Then 2003 came along and none of that shit mattered.
On paper he's probably right.  
MOOPS : 5/23/2023 1:51 pm : link
They have a very good D, good offensive weapons and they added Rodgers to put them over the top.
I don't see what Saleh said being any kind of a big deal at all.
Not a bad gambit  
BlackLight : 5/23/2023 2:23 pm : link
If the Jets miss the playoffs, Saleh might be gone regardless of how high the expectations are. And if high expectations motivate players, it's worth it to raise expectations.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2023 2:59 pm : link
JosinaAnderson
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I’m told Aaron Rodgers has a strained calf, per sources. It’s considered minor as of now. The anticipation is he should be back fairly quick. #Jets
RE: On paper he's probably right.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2023 3:00 pm : link
In comment 16121892 MOOPS said:
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They have a very good D, good offensive weapons and they added Rodgers to put them over the top.
I don't see what Saleh said being any kind of a big deal at all.


How many good head coaches talk like this?

Asking for a friend.
RE: RE: On paper he's probably right.  
MOOPS : 5/23/2023 3:28 pm : link
In comment 16121965 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16121892 MOOPS said:


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They have a very good D, good offensive weapons and they added Rodgers to put them over the top.
I don't see what Saleh said being any kind of a big deal at all.



How many good head coaches talk like this?

Asking for a friend.



Robert Saleh said ‘realistically 6-8 teams have a chance’ to win Super Bowl every year and he thinks #Jets are one.

Tell your friend it's much ado about nothing.
RE: Does anyone think Saleh will be around  
OBJ_AllDay : 5/23/2023 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16121685 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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if the Jets miss the playoffs? Signing Rodgers is win or go home for Saleh and the GM.


If he doesn't get to the playoffs (with 7 teams now making them & with that roster) he should be tar'd and feathered.
Kind of a stupid thing to say...  
BillKo : 5/23/2023 3:39 pm : link
...whether it's true or not (which I tend to disagree with just off the top of my head).

Sort of putting a target on his team right from jump street.
Could he have at least waited until after their season opener against  
Blue21 : 5/23/2023 3:41 pm : link
Buffalo?
Hold on to your butt  
Daniel in MI : 5/23/2023 5:42 pm : link
McNally!
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/23/2023 6:49 pm : link
Saleh talks a lot for a man who has zero pelts on the wall. It is one for BB or Tomlin to opine like this, though it doesn't strike me as in the personality of either to say something like this.
RE: RE: He's taking receipts again ?  
Joe Beckwith : 5/23/2023 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16121700 Spiciest Memelord said:
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In comment 16121690 averagejoe said:


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His team lost it's last six games. The Jets were dominated by the Jags at home last year. His all world defense could not stop a run up the middle.


My money is on Saleh and Genius Joe being gone next year .




It was a Joe Walton-like implosion, a Jets tradition.


But they have Rodgers now and not Wilson, a ton of cheap weapons, and youth( other than AR). I think his window is 2 years ….or if he wins one against lil Bill, which is like a NYJ SB win at this point.
I think it was a smart thing to say  
Vanzetti : 5/24/2023 1:19 am : link
If he misses the playoffs, he is getting fired. So what does he have to lose?

And if the Jets do make the playoffs, then the Jet fans start comparing him to Namath guaranteeing a win in the Super Bowl.
Last time the Jets  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/24/2023 7:44 am : link
had a HC who talked a lot they went to back to back AFCCG's. Maybe he is following that lead and hoping for similar or better results.

The irony of a Jets employee talking about what it takes  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2023 7:48 am : link
to go to the SB is still hilarious to me. This is a team that hasn't even made the postseason in 12 years. And what the hell has Robert Saleh ever done as a HC? They should probably accept they're about to embark on yet another SB-less season.
RE: Last time the Jets  
OBJ_AllDay : 5/24/2023 10:04 am : link
In comment 16122325 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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had a HC who talked a lot they went to back to back AFCCG's. Maybe he is following that lead and hoping for similar or better results.


"They got a big mouth, big belly coach that talks too much"
It's a clown org  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/24/2023 11:01 am : link
that's why they always have these blowhard coaches. Talk is cheap.
RE: What’s he supposed to say? The Jets have essentially a two year window  
Spiciest Memelord : 5/24/2023 11:03 am : link
In comment 16121855 mikeinbloomfield said:
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if that, and everyone knows it. Trading for a 39 year old hall of fame QB tends to show your hand.

They’ve got a shot at the playoffs, certainly and Jets fans are going to be the happiest people in September. Good for them, they haven’t had shit to root for in years. I don’t know why we care.


They have no chance in the playoff with choker Rodgers.
He is sticking his neck out a little with these comments  
AcesUp : 5/24/2023 11:10 am : link
He's basically acknowledging that they have one of the best rosters in the league. So he's exposing himself with these comments. He probably knows that he and Douglas are out if they miss the playoffs anyway so better to just lean into it.
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